It's so impressive to look at those to playing each other. They are so close to each other, everything can go one way or the other on a single engagement.
I am so horrible at Starcraft but watching these is so entertaining, you’re hilarious winter and I love that you really enjoy yourself while doing it! Keep up the good work man!
Hell of a series! Always great to see these two go at it - I think Clem’s style is really effective at pushing Serral out of his comfort zone - but even then he’s still so dangerous. In my head Serral is furrowing his brow and frowning slightly through this series and Clem’s being such a tryhard his eyeballs are about to pop out of his skull.
Feel like Serral's heartsone card needs some more work. I liked Clem's thou. Some of his WM hits feels weird actually. I would love to see the units lost/res lost tab after engages. But it was a fun cast ty.
You deserve more subscribers! Also I miss your games going thru the beginning and until diamond league "tournaments", random plays and seeing angry players talking crap and getting frustrated.
Clem can multiprong like a badass and somehow survive against these ridiculous counterattacks. I always think he's going to lose until I see his financial situation.
Because he's so surgical in his micro, he saves himself SO much income. The fact that he isn't just sending waves of units to their death and uses them wisely is probably the skill I envy most.
Uthermal explains in one of his terran school videos that with a 3CC you naturally take the 2nd gas at the nat because you’re already working on saturating the nat at that point (or something to that effect, I may have botched the exact reason) so Clem doing that was not a mindgame
@@shayden598 ok I had to pause and re-watch but was still doubtful and it kinda reminded me of the older maps where you had wide platforms here there you could marines and seiged tanks on
What if overseers could drop changeling goop on cleaning bots. The bots(or other map neutrals) provide vision for the zerg, are not controllable, and have a small eye visual marker.
Wow... I don't see any mistakes made here. It seems Clem was just the best player with his proven method and serral didn't vary his unit composition either. What could have been done different from both sides?
most of the time it coming down to execution, a good dodge on widow mine hit, or a drone pull on mine drop could be the difference between losing and winning. In term of army composition, its as effective as it could get already.
if i remember correctly he said over on Twitter that while blizzard kept being as awful as it is he wouldn't be playing any of their games, he still casts tho. And maybe he was just bored of it and wanted to try out AoE 4 which is also a possibility
Blizzard has been in a lot of controversy recently, and sc2 isnt getting any more updates. So most sc2 players only play sc2 at this point cause its their job and they need an income. But whenever a new rts game shows up, like aoe4, everyone will try it out, cause if its good enough to make a carrier in, they will gladly switch
I want to think. That he wanted to try something else for a little while since he has been casting mostly SC2 for more than 10 years, but with this he shows he hasn't completely abandoned SC2 and there will be more of it soon. Still, is a little like Shayden say. SC2 has been for too long and hasn't gotten any upgrades in a while so players and caster alike are exploring the new RTS. For now the most other relevant RTS worth to stream is AoE4, even if unfortunally isn't as good as fast a competitive game as its predecesor AoE2 as Winter said. Now even Serral is starting to play it so is possible for it to become the RTS of the new decade so it may get most of the attention from here on out.
@@lightdx7008 Players will play whichever bring them the most prize money. And SC2 still get one of the deepest prize tournaments within the RTS gense. AoE2 got new balance update, new civ and content pretty much every 3 months but their prize money is not even 1/3 of SC2 on a yearly basis, so AoE4 might not be that promising as people thought, and it could potentially be another dud like AoE3.
About time anouther starcraft match, Winter plz your much better with starcraft. Age of empires is good every once and awile but starcraft is much better.
Am I just seeing the wrong series or does Serral generally stomp Maru while Maru generally takes Clem down while Clem puts Serral in his place? If Clem was better at TvT I think he would be the world champ.
Maru stomp Serral 3-0 in Asus RoG, but losing a close 1-2 back in DH. And Serral just 4-1 Clem in DH Winter EU as well, so 2 things that you said are not true. But Maru has been stomping Clem since 2021 is true.
I used to be a Serral hater back when he was unable to loose just because I though Zerg was Imba. Now I realize how good of a player he is, and he totally deserves to be on the SC2 GOAT talk.
It's genuinely gotten boring watching Clem and Serral basically play the exact same game 100 times. Same unit compositions, same strategies, every single time. Simply comes down to who executes better in the moment.
This is what happen when you have 2 guys who played so damn great standard build. They dont switch up the game or anything. On the other hand, you have the KRs who mix up a lot of opening and pressure to try to end the game early.
Wow, winter announces that he's done playing starcraft 2, and this is his last SC2 video. Goodbye winter, it was ok i guess while it lasted. not really though
Is it just me or do most of these games look the same nowadays? Like it's choreographed and whoever falls behind first loses. Same units same moves, outliers are rare.
I mean if getting ahead early didn’t afford you an advantage there wouldn’t be a point in trying to get ahead early. Most games and sports the side that scores first wins. Otherwise we’d just be watching two players macro up every game and then nip at each other in a split map scenario (looking at you PvZ).
"many would be intimidated, but clem sees a target rich environment" :D
Sir they surround us! Excellent means we can shoot in any direction.
Something the marines once said 😀
TvZ: everyone's favorite, because the alternative is either a ditto or Protoss.
this doesn't include mirror matchups
That and i think its genuinely the most balanced and can be very dynamic
@@Psyduc18352 That's what ditto means
I just want to say, for a 2 man crew, you and Jimmy are doing a great job.
Haha I agree. Jimmy face reveal when x)
What a series!! It's so much fun to watch these matches with Winter's awesome casting:)
Finally SC2 content.
I had to grab a beer a watch this on the big screen
Me: *sees Winter posting sc2 cast*
Also me: "finally, some good fucking content"
yes!
Gosh this is Starcraft at its best. Such high-level play! Thanks for the great casting and good to see more Starcraft content - we missed it!
It's so impressive to look at those to playing each other. They are so close to each other, everything can go one way or the other on a single engagement.
About goddamn time you come back for some SC2 casting! I like your AoE4 coverage, but come on...
For real, feels good to have you back.
21:40 - cleaning bot trying to clean off the depo! I watch Winter for the pro skills, obviously, but also jokes like this! ;)
Winter please keep posting sc2 content you have no idea how bored I was without you, ILY
I gay sad without it too
*get
So glad to see winter back with some Starcraft!
Finally another SC2 video. So happy!! Sick to death with AoE4
Yes
I am so horrible at Starcraft but watching these is so entertaining, you’re hilarious winter and I love that you really enjoy yourself while doing it! Keep up the good work man!
Hell of a series! Always great to see these two go at it - I think Clem’s style is really effective at pushing Serral out of his comfort zone - but even then he’s still so dangerous. In my head Serral is furrowing his brow and frowning slightly through this series and Clem’s being such a tryhard his eyeballs are about to pop out of his skull.
Feel like Serral's heartsone card needs some more work. I liked Clem's thou. Some of his WM hits feels weird actually. I would love to see the units lost/res lost tab after engages. But it was a fun cast ty.
You deserve more subscribers! Also I miss your games going thru the beginning and until diamond league "tournaments", random plays and seeing angry players talking crap and getting frustrated.
the rolling text during ''commercials'' ..... god damn, dude... you rock!!!... I couldn't catch all of it but what I did was genius level of satire...
Epic casting of Serral vs Clem! Super happy to see this one
When i click your videos a lovely soundtrack plays in my mind, yes you guessed it right it's: " Welcome back to broooooooonze league Heroooooes "
Most honest ad I'ver seen. Like the angry coach of ads.
Back to business with SC2!
FINALLY SOME "WELCOME BACK TO SOME PROFESSIONAL STARCRAFT"
I love having 2 RTS titles to watch games of now.
Liked and commented.
Clem can multiprong like a badass and somehow survive against these ridiculous counterattacks. I always think he's going to lose until I see his financial situation.
Because he's so surgical in his micro, he saves himself SO much income. The fact that he isn't just sending waves of units to their death and uses them wisely is probably the skill I envy most.
Wow, I didn't realize that you casted Starcraft 2
Uthermal explains in one of his terran school videos that with a 3CC you naturally take the 2nd gas at the nat because you’re already working on saturating the nat at that point (or something to that effect, I may have botched the exact reason) so Clem doing that was not a mindgame
Finally more sc2 content
Ahh, SC2 thank you
I wish they would make a similar ui for casters in aoe4, this one is so clean. Btw, love your casting across all games Winter!
just love your game casting matey!
I'm ashamed to say that i love Winter's ads more than any SC2 match.
Glad to have you back on sc2!
Is that platform some of the marines on seperate from the rest of the base level at 10:17?
No, it just kinda looks like a platform, but thats just a normal part of the main base
@@shayden598 ok I had to pause and re-watch but was still doubtful and it kinda reminded me of the older maps where you had wide platforms here there you could marines and seiged tanks on
What if overseers could drop changeling goop on cleaning bots. The bots(or other map neutrals) provide vision for the zerg, are not controllable, and have a small eye visual marker.
That would be pretty cool and thematically fitting tbh.
Wow... I don't see any mistakes made here. It seems Clem was just the best player with his proven method and serral didn't vary his unit composition either. What could have been done different from both sides?
most of the time it coming down to execution, a good dodge on widow mine hit, or a drone pull on mine drop could be the difference between losing and winning. In term of army composition, its as effective as it could get already.
"this is the real game change that i want: hats... and confetti!!
"
So... I Winter slowly moving away from SC? Or has there just been a content drought?
if i remember correctly he said over on Twitter that while blizzard kept being as awful as it is he wouldn't be playing any of their games, he still casts tho. And maybe he was just bored of it and wanted to try out AoE 4 which is also a possibility
Blizzard has been in a lot of controversy recently, and sc2 isnt getting any more updates.
So most sc2 players only play sc2 at this point cause its their job and they need an income. But whenever a new rts game shows up, like aoe4, everyone will try it out, cause if its good enough to make a carrier in, they will gladly switch
I want to think. That he wanted to try something else for a little while since he has been casting mostly SC2 for more than 10 years, but with this he shows he hasn't completely abandoned SC2 and there will be more of it soon.
Still, is a little like Shayden say. SC2 has been for too long and hasn't gotten any upgrades in a while so players and caster alike are exploring the new RTS. For now the most other relevant RTS worth to stream is AoE4, even if unfortunally isn't as good as fast a competitive game as its predecesor AoE2 as Winter said. Now even Serral is starting to play it so is possible for it to become the RTS of the new decade so it may get most of the attention from here on out.
@@lightdx7008 Players will play whichever bring them the most prize money. And SC2 still get one of the deepest prize tournaments within the RTS gense. AoE2 got new balance update, new civ and content pretty much every 3 months but their prize money is not even 1/3 of SC2 on a yearly basis, so AoE4 might not be that promising as people thought, and it could potentially be another dud like AoE3.
Please algorithm bless this man 🙏🙏
"Blackburn has horizontal symmetery as opposed to diagonal."
He's just trolling the maths nerds at this point, right?
Played back in August? Would be helpful to time stamp it, so I don't have to watch it again. Looking for updated material. Thank you!
I loved the comment "...like, that is private property". So funny.
Damn. Clem putting Serral on back foot.
Jimmy to Winter is like Wilson to Tom Hanks
Zerg vs Teran, everyones favourite, unless they re lying or even worse - PROTOSS
Winter, 2021
i luv u (me, 12pooling protoss ever since)
Oh hey, Winter is casting TVZ and decided this one goes to youtube, I guess Terran wins.
finally some SC!!!! Getting really tired of AOE
I must say I really miss the "Welcome back, to BROOONZE LEAAGUE HEEEROOOESS!" intro.
My favourite strategy game is minesweeper and I would love for you to do some more minesweeper content thank you winter very cool 😎
I wonder what Serral scouted throughout the games to know to make what he did.
TvZ by far the most Entertaining Match up
merci Wintersc, toujours un plaisir de regarder tes analyses.gg.
Thank you I never watch your empire games I hate that game I love starcraft
About time anouther starcraft match, Winter plz your much better with starcraft. Age of empires is good every once and awile but starcraft is much better.
Brah, this is gonna be good
I physically felt the add.
Am I just seeing the wrong series or does Serral generally stomp Maru while Maru generally takes Clem down while Clem puts Serral in his place? If Clem was better at TvT I think he would be the world champ.
Maru stomp Serral 3-0 in Asus RoG, but losing a close 1-2 back in DH. And Serral just 4-1 Clem in DH Winter EU as well, so 2 things that you said are not true. But Maru has been stomping Clem since 2021 is true.
the newsticker on the aoe2 villager had me laughing so hard :D
I’m a simple man. I see Clem, I click.
I think serral looks at Clem as a friend... He plays much f differently than when playing against maru
NGL tried to skip the prime ad
how did Serral process, Clem's helion drop attempt so fast?... I am curios what is the IQ of this kid?
The words of Husky? I know he abandoned SC 2.
the more I watch professional TvZ the more I hate ghosts
Yay StarCraft! Now just for angry coach
Welcome back to some professional StarCraft 2 after tons of some other content which is less professional 😎
I haven't played ladder in years, why don't terrans make 20+ tanks anymore?
Because high level terrans play bio for the map control and flexibility
Tanks suck in lategame.
Holy shit dude, for the past 2 weeks i thought u should rename the channel to winterageofempires4
Jimmy: almost fired since 2012.
It helps him to know that to keep him in his toes.
Clem really makes Terran look grossly unbalanced
they are, snipe and WM's do way to much damage
I sense some good ass starcraft here...
Flexible Frenchman Finishes Finnishman.
So who won? 😁
Zerg
Protoss
I used to be a Serral hater back when he was unable to loose just because I though Zerg was Imba. Now I realize how good of a player he is, and he totally deserves to be on the SC2 GOAT talk.
🠗 5:38 Petition to see jimmy on camera.
First cast in a week!
41:20 nice
It's genuinely gotten boring watching Clem and Serral basically play the exact same game 100 times. Same unit compositions, same strategies, every single time. Simply comes down to who executes better in the moment.
glhf
This is what happen when you have 2 guys who played so damn great standard build. They dont switch up the game or anything. On the other hand, you have the KRs who mix up a lot of opening and pressure to try to end the game early.
Im sorry but your sc2 casts are much more entertaining than aoe, keep them up pls
Show me Aoe2 DE
lol
Nah, all 3 are good, aoe2-4 and sc2
Lets goo
Clem le terran qui vend du rêve ^^
Mentioning Husky... 😭
brood war!
Its been months since I've last watched sc2 and I see the widow mine bullshit is still on. See you in some more months
please, do not switch to a player view
Widow mine OP
Brood War content plez
I see.... So you know Benny Hill hu..
i think widow mines are just stupid on any skill level. drops are so efficient with so little risk its just not cool..
Stop crying
nice! :)
Wow, winter announces that he's done playing starcraft 2, and this is his last SC2 video. Goodbye winter, it was ok i guess while it lasted.
not really though
Is it just me or do most of these games look the same nowadays? Like it's choreographed and whoever falls behind first loses. Same units same moves, outliers are rare.
I mean if getting ahead early didn’t afford you an advantage there wouldn’t be a point in trying to get ahead early. Most games and sports the side that scores first wins. Otherwise we’d just be watching two players macro up every game and then nip at each other in a split map scenario (looking at you PvZ).
The curse of high level play
u do not seemhappy at all with the terran win hehehehehehehehhahahah!!
clement desplanches!
I hate burrows
Wtf this isn't AoE4?! Man this channels really gone to shit since you started casting shartcraft.
Being serious?
@@superpantman bro the channels called WinterStarCraft lol. Ofc it's a joke
clam
Snipes are just stupid op. Nerf it atleast to 3/4 the range
First?
Die zerg😀