That’s my main problem with all these “GameCube” feel joycons. None of them have that first party quality and that’s a huge issue for me. Also a HUGE fan of what you do in the modding community, absolutely amazing stuff.
I agree with shank on this point, I have a bunch of other small grips with the controller too, but the main one is price... just buy a pro controller for the $ or a oem gcc if you're gonna play smash.
It's a bit pricey for 3rd party, but it's still cheaper. They are $70 instead of the $80 for official joy-con. The video claims $80, but that is wrong.
@@TestTypeG However you may feel on them, official Joycon have a lot of advanced tech packed into them, and besides the whole drift thing, are pretty high quality controllers. I’ve never gotten drift and actually quiet enjoy them, but I understand the uncomforbility with them.
@@coolioam8137 I'm not saying the price on the official joy-con isn't justified, although it it is quite high. I've never gotten drift myself either, but I find them extremely uncomfortable and avoid using them at all times, so that might explain why don't drift. They have still gotten plenty of use since 2018.
Surprised you didn't touch on the Nyxi Wizard's biggest (and most important, IMO) key feature: Hall effect joysticks. These are the kind of sticks that use magnets rather than potentiometers, so they are significantly more accurate and will not experience physical wear, so they will never develop stick drift.
@@gogitoDBZ963 i mean there are controllers like the gulikit king kong pro 2 and the 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth that do use those and i think 8bitdo also makes an xbox controller not sure tho if it has hall effects sticks
@@latch21Take in mind the sticks are getting on pretty much anything, and the technology in context is old. The only new thing that i can say about this controller and pretty much every hall effect, its the smoothness, and that it will survive a lot longer.
@@xelil. True, but this is a GameCube style controller. Both the Gulikit and the 8bitdo are still "Xbox" style controllers. If you take into account the hall effect sticks, instant response shoulder buttons, and GameCube layout, you basically have the greatest Smash Ultimate controller. Unfortunately, due to the Turbo function, it would be banned in most (if not all) local tournaments.
We were one of the first to get our hands on a sample, the biggest standout to me was the Hall Effect sensing joystick modules. Zero drift and deadzone is a huge pro and partly why it's so expensive. I modded it with OG GC joystick caps too to make it that bit better.
@@Jeno_Sinatra That's a good point - on paper people may have their preferences, but something can seem nice in theory yet be quite disappointing when used
@@Jeno_Sinatra haven’t used them. But I watched his whole video on them. He describes all of their intricacies. And there was far more love and depth put into them. I have a good sense as to how they work because I watched the entire thing and took note of the tech inside.
I remember the GameCube analog sticks having a clicky feel to them. They moved in every direction, but there was subtle feedback for 8-way directional control. Would be cool if this controller matched that feel.
@@AirshBornely They won't. The games will have to work with all Switch controllers, which don't have analog, so a workaround will have to be introduced.
If Metroid Prime Remastered is any indication, then I think Nintendo are going to forego that route and simply remaster some of the best games that they've made on GameCube...
I really wish these had analog triggers. This can also be used on PC, so it WOULD'VE been a good option for Dolphin use. I still might get this tho. Would be good for Smash
I'm grabbing a pair. might look into 3d printing longer buttons for the rail release if its that hard to push down. but they look great and is something ive wanted for a while
I don't know if anyone else mentioned this in the comments but these joycons also feature hal effect joysticks which use magnets. They are advertised to never drift.
Definitely buying this game cube controllers are better made then any other controller yeah I said it. I had a old game cube controller since early 2000s and I have to say I never had any issues still works perfect. No more stick drift with this
this reminds me of the one that @Shank Mods made. and price wise im sure the reason why its that expensive is because of the hall effect joy sticks, its the same price as the 8Bitdo Ultimate
dude. does it have rumble? gyroscope? nfc reader? can you talk about the turbo buttons, the individual charging ports, the hall effect joysticks, the way it fits on the switch? your controller videos used to tackle ever last detail now it kinda feels like you skimmed over it
Hi as someone who owns the Hyperion controllers and doing some digging i think i can anwser your questions. First it has rumble Yes it has gyroscope/motion controls Turbo buttons are something i haven't used yet so can't speak on that Charging ports are well... charging ports As for how it fits on the switch Actually pretty well minus the extra bit on the back but you get used to it Hope this helped
I got in the 2nd wave pre-order like you. I have a bad obsession over the last couple years collecting controllers. I thought this would be a cool controller to have especially with someone that has larger hands. I rarely use my OEM joycons.
That's what I love about the Nintendo Switch, the fact that we have so many options makes this console amazing. I still use my Switch OEM SNES and N64 controllers. But this is cool too.
I wonder if these are compatible with Gamecube conductive button pads. I wanna mod these so the buttons feel closer to an original gamecube controller.
I've had a third-party one for probably a couple years now has all the same buttons and it basically is a GameCube controller for the switch the only difference is mine doesn't turn into joy-cons but honestly I can't see that being good with his controller anyways I'm sure most probably use a GameCube controller maybe and handheld mode at the very very most but for 80 bucks that's just the one that I mentioned that I have I think I spent $20. If I remember correctly not only doesn't work on this switch but I'm pretty sure the one I got can also Bluetooth to any cell phone or computer as well. So may look nice but I wouldn't waste my money
Which one did you get? I got a licensed one made by PDP in that price range and at first, I loved it, but developed such bad snapback after only a couple months. Considering its price and how the cheap the materials probably were, it didnt bother me toooo much because you got what you paid for.
A lot of these Gamcube controllers lack a key feature of the original and that was the slightly rotated analog stick on the original to make for a more natural feel. It's a little bit hard to tell if this one has that or not. Does it?
@@xXLucromXx The back buttons aren't registered as separate buttons on pc either. But you could bind for example the screenshot button to the analog trigger press in the emulation software, and then bind the back button to the screenshot button
How sensitive are the joysticks? Will I be able to move my thumb to the edge before reaching max speed? Or will I get to max speed before the edge, like maybe the middle? I ask because I hate when analog sticks are overly sensitive. It makes aiming harder
I have the Hori gamecube pro controller and I was wanting to know if this feels better or worse. I know you did the rankings but they were far apart during that ranking and I don't remember both those 2 being compared
I like this controller but I have a big question how long can you use this controller in a long play through session. I'm looking for ergonomics and long battery life.
they do have gyro according to the website and its own vibration function with 5 settings. He didnt even talk about the hall effect non drift sticks...that pretty much everyone at least mentions.
Ur video is the reason I got this. but now Im here bc now that I have it I have issues. I made a tik tok showing my issues with it mainly the dpad is not working as it should. I push right the character looks up, or jumps depending on the game. are there teardown videos that u know of? Im tryin to reach out to the company but nothing.
Have you tried out these new controllers with Nintendo Switch sports yet? You never know if this is the *only* pair of *3rd party* Joy-Con controllers that work with that game.
Honestly all I want is a hori splitpad type controller with rumble, that I can use wirelessly that isn’t literally destined to break, and I’m hoping this is it, it’s really not much to ask lol
So long as hori still become official or licensed Nintendo partner, Nintendo would never allowed split pad to work wirelessly or have gyro, it literally would become a perfect controller for switch and it would destroys joycon/pro controller sale
I kinda feel bad for Shank Mods, the person who made the original gamecube joycons, because I feel that this company just stole Shank's idea that he spent a long time on
Fun upgrade for these. Get a Dobe (or any other probably) joycon charging grip and cut off the grips with a Dremel. Attach the joycons and enjoy the prolonged battery life! Paint or skin it to match the joycons too if you want better esthetics.
So these do not have Hall sensor Joysticks? That is a huge let down. Also the C stick is incorrect. Also a major turn off is he said where you put your hands is thinner as well. Which makes them unusable, as that typically would hurt my wrists after a short time playing.
I'd buy this if the handle/grips were curved outward just a liiiitle more...similar to xbox or the kingkong pro. I understand the want to replicate the wavebird to a T - but them bitches are not ergonomic (especially for big hands)
id be a bit worried in handheld mode of it sort of breaking the switch rails, to much leverage. i have the official Switch GameCube controller i just wish it was rechargeable.
As cool as this would be and I'm super glad to hear that they have made it to where they are independent of each other but the question is can you do button configurations with them? So many controllers I've bought for the switch and they do not pair as a switch pro controller so you can't configure the button layout on them and that is one major downside for me. I had one from GameStop the other week that was like a mini analog joystick controller SNES type thing and it was awesome but it would not let me configure the buttons and that was a big turned off so I went ahead and returned it.
While probably not the definitive answer you're looking for, he did mention that these controllers are seen as regular grey Joy Cons by the console and you can reconfigure the button layout of those in the settings if that's what you mean.
I wish this were the perfect controller but really it doesnt work for anything other than Smash, at least to me. The abxy button placement is what kills this for me. It was great on NGC but confusing for everything else.
I bought the Nyxi Wizard, and I’m not impressed. The plastic feels cheep, the color is off, and the casting shows imperfections. I feel like everyone has been paid to say good things about it.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like if its priced like a first party controller, it should feel like a first party controller.
That’s my main problem with all these “GameCube” feel joycons. None of them have that first party quality and that’s a huge issue for me.
Also a HUGE fan of what you do in the modding community, absolutely amazing stuff.
I agree with shank on this point, I have a bunch of other small grips with the controller too, but the main one is price... just buy a pro controller for the $ or a oem gcc if you're gonna play smash.
It's a bit pricey for 3rd party, but it's still cheaper. They are $70 instead of the $80 for official joy-con. The video claims $80, but that is wrong.
@@TestTypeG However you may feel on them, official Joycon have a lot of advanced tech packed into them, and besides the whole drift thing, are pretty high quality controllers. I’ve never gotten drift and actually quiet enjoy them, but I understand the uncomforbility with them.
@@coolioam8137 I'm not saying the price on the official joy-con isn't justified, although it it is quite high. I've never gotten drift myself either, but I find them extremely uncomfortable and avoid using them at all times, so that might explain why don't drift. They have still gotten plenty of use since 2018.
Surprised you didn't touch on the Nyxi Wizard's biggest (and most important, IMO) key feature: Hall effect joysticks. These are the kind of sticks that use magnets rather than potentiometers, so they are significantly more accurate and will not experience physical wear, so they will never develop stick drift.
I wish there were other controllers that uses those. Like playstation or xbox.
@@gogitoDBZ963 i mean there are controllers like the gulikit king kong pro 2 and the 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth that do use those and i think 8bitdo also makes an xbox controller not sure tho if it has hall effects sticks
I thought the same too. The one of the major reason I bought these is cause of the HES.
@@latch21Take in mind the sticks are getting on pretty much anything, and the technology in context is old. The only new thing that i can say about this controller and pretty much every hall effect, its the smoothness, and that it will survive a lot longer.
@@xelil. True, but this is a GameCube style controller. Both the Gulikit and the 8bitdo are still "Xbox" style controllers. If you take into account the hall effect sticks, instant response shoulder buttons, and GameCube layout, you basically have the greatest Smash Ultimate controller.
Unfortunately, due to the Turbo function, it would be banned in most (if not all) local tournaments.
We were one of the first to get our hands on a sample, the biggest standout to me was the Hall Effect sensing joystick modules. Zero drift and deadzone is a huge pro and partly why it's so expensive. I modded it with OG GC joystick caps too to make it that bit better.
Can you replacement the ABXY to an original?
Shank’s original ones were still better
Shank is just built different
Have you ever used them? At all?
@@Jeno_Sinatra That's a good point - on paper people may have their preferences, but something can seem nice in theory yet be quite disappointing when used
@@Jeno_SinatraNo one has but having held a pair of these I already know those ones feel way more high quality.
@@Jeno_Sinatra haven’t used them. But I watched his whole video on them. He describes all of their intricacies. And there was far more love and depth put into them. I have a good sense as to how they work because I watched the entire thing and took note of the tech inside.
I remember the GameCube analog sticks having a clicky feel to them. They moved in every direction, but there was subtle feedback for 8-way directional control. Would be cool if this controller matched that feel.
im sure it does if you look at it, there is an octagon for both analog housings
I went ahead and pre ordered, always wanted some of these and it's dope that they're finally avaliable
If we ever get GameCube brought to Nintendo Online, I hope they'll release a wireless OEM controller.
They're gonna have to make the triggers analog if they do.
@@AirshBornely They won't. The games will have to work with all Switch controllers, which don't have analog, so a workaround will have to be introduced.
@TestType switch supports the OG analog gamecube controllers with USB in the GRID games. Analog triggers is somehow present in the switch OS.
I would love that, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
If Metroid Prime Remastered is any indication, then I think Nintendo are going to forego that route and simply remaster some of the best games that they've made on GameCube...
NEEDS to come in black and Platinum colors!!.. NYXI PLS!
I really wish these had analog triggers. This can also be used on PC, so it WOULD'VE been a good option for Dolphin use. I still might get this tho. Would be good for Smash
now THESE are gamecube style joycons! not like those other ones with the octagonal gate being the wrong way around
My left controller battery doesn’t even work
Finally I've waited 6 years for this
I'm grabbing a pair. might look into 3d printing longer buttons for the rail release if its that hard to push down. but they look great and is something ive wanted for a while
all i want is an original style controller with rumble
I don't know if anyone else mentioned this in the comments but these joycons also feature hal effect joysticks which use magnets. They are advertised to never drift.
This video made me want to play Infamous Son. Great review! It seems almost like a controller I’d want, but it’s more complicated than I need.
This with the switch keyboard would be epic nostalgia.
Definitely buying this game cube controllers are better made then any other controller yeah I said it.
I had a old game cube controller since early 2000s and I have to say I never had any issues still works perfect.
No more stick drift with this
this reminds me of the one that @Shank Mods made.
and price wise im sure the reason why its that expensive is because of the hall effect joy sticks, its the same price as the 8Bitdo Ultimate
Pre-ordered thanks!! 🤟🤟👍👍
Ah seems like Goku is gonna spirit bomb the wizard controller he looks ready 🤣
while I like it, the buttons phantom click quite often and the hall effect joysticks need constant calibration. I may just have a lemon tho.
dude. does it have rumble? gyroscope? nfc reader? can you talk about the turbo buttons, the individual charging ports, the hall effect joysticks, the way it fits on the switch? your controller videos used to tackle ever last detail now it kinda feels like you skimmed over it
Hi as someone who owns the Hyperion controllers and doing some digging i think i can anwser your questions.
First it has rumble
Yes it has gyroscope/motion controls
Turbo buttons are something i haven't used yet so can't speak on that
Charging ports are well... charging ports
As for how it fits on the switch
Actually pretty well minus the extra bit on the back but you get used to it
Hope this helped
I want it just for the hall effect and the purple color with that yellow joystick. The nostalgia
Thanks for the Review!
I got in the 2nd wave pre-order like you. I have a bad obsession over the last couple years collecting controllers. I thought this would be a cool controller to have especially with someone that has larger hands. I rarely use my OEM joycons.
That's what I love about the Nintendo Switch, the fact that we have so many options makes this console amazing. I still use my Switch OEM SNES and N64 controllers. But this is cool too.
I wonder if these are compatible with Gamecube conductive button pads.
I wanna mod these so the buttons feel closer to an original gamecube controller.
Probably not. The clicky buttons make me think that they're using switches soldered to the PCB, which are incompatible with the soft-button membranes
@@mqrxhe he says the ABXY buttons still have a soft press, so it may actually be possible
I've had a third-party one for probably a couple years now has all the same buttons and it basically is a GameCube controller for the switch the only difference is mine doesn't turn into joy-cons but honestly I can't see that being good with his controller anyways I'm sure most probably use a GameCube controller maybe and handheld mode at the very very most but for 80 bucks that's just the one that I mentioned that I have I think I spent $20. If I remember correctly not only doesn't work on this switch but I'm pretty sure the one I got can also Bluetooth to any cell phone or computer as well. So may look nice but I wouldn't waste my money
Which one did you get? I got a licensed one made by PDP in that price range and at first, I loved it, but developed such bad snapback after only a couple months. Considering its price and how the cheap the materials probably were, it didnt bother me toooo much because you got what you paid for.
A lot of these Gamcube controllers lack a key feature of the original and that was the slightly rotated analog stick on the original to make for a more natural feel. It's a little bit hard to tell if this one has that or not. Does it?
I really want to play Metroid Prime with this.
Keep in mind that these also work on PC so you can play emulated gamecube and even other games with it aswell
Yeah but keep in mind these don't have analog triggers. So certain games like Sunshine won't work well with this.
@@AirshBornely you can keybind the back buttons for that
@@xXLucromXx The back buttons aren't registered as separate buttons on pc either. But you could bind for example the screenshot button to the analog trigger press in the emulation software, and then bind the back button to the screenshot button
@@ei.. ye thats the idea you can use screenshot(left) and home(right) to bind the analog and than have the backbuttons trigger those
Are we not gonna talk about the fact this man has a Sony WALKMAN! 😱🖤🖤🖤 sooo jelly right now.
I'm getting them at the end of the month. I can't wait to try them, might need to wait to play Metroid Prime Remastered until I get them.
I hope they release an update or accessory so you can use it on an actual gamecube
Is it only me or the audio sounds like it is being fast forward? Love your videos as always though 🥰
I hope to see you review the Omelet Gaming Switch Pro+ Joy-pad
How sensitive are the joysticks? Will I be able to move my thumb to the edge before reaching max speed? Or will I get to max speed before the edge, like maybe the middle? I ask because I hate when analog sticks are overly sensitive. It makes aiming harder
The purple!!!
It only feels like half a GameCube controller without the analog shoulder buttons.
You forgot to mention it also illuminates!
OH MY GAWD I LOVE THAT!!!
My big question before buying that thing is: does it have motion controlls
$70 feels fair for this. It's a specialty item and one of the few options not custom made.
Got mine yesterday. I like it so far but I didn't had the time to test it out completely
Do the control sticks work on the resistance strip method (leads to joycon drift) or Hall Effect which is less likely to drift?
Players: Can we have GameCube joycons?
Nintendo: No!
3rd Parties: Fine, I'll do it myself.
Ah that's a shame there's no clicky springy style triggers that would have been icing on the cake for me 😁
Would you go for nyxi or doyokis version?
Have you tried the gyros?
i heard about and it sounds good, but still curious about 3rd party controller overall.
That’s cool but the wobble drives me nuts. That’s why I had to get skull and co neo
What about the width? I feel like with some handhelds that get very wide it makes you feel like you need to apply mild inward pressure
I have the Hori gamecube pro controller and I was wanting to know if this feels better or worse. I know you did the rankings but they were far apart during that ranking and I don't remember both those 2 being compared
I like this controller but I have a big question how long can you use this controller in a long play through session. I'm looking for ergonomics and long battery life.
what are the T buttons and does it have rumble feature?
Maybe I missed it in the video but are these controllers fully featured? Rumble, Gyro control that sort of thing?
they do have gyro according to the website and its own vibration function with 5 settings. He didnt even talk about the hall effect non drift sticks...that pretty much everyone at least mentions.
Ur video is the reason I got this. but now Im here bc now that I have it I have issues. I made a tik tok showing my issues with it mainly the dpad is not working as it should. I push right the character looks up, or jumps depending on the game. are there teardown videos that u know of? Im tryin to reach out to the company but nothing.
GameCube Joy Cons!
Have you tried out these new controllers with Nintendo Switch sports yet? You never know if this is the *only* pair of *3rd party* Joy-Con controllers that work with that game.
Hades with these joycons is awesome… just need to switch A & Y in the game settings, not Switch settings
I'd be sold if this also worked on pc
they available on amazon
What about the joysticks they're supposed to be Hall effect? You mention nothing about the joystick sensitivity.
I assume you cannot remap the buttons on a system level for these?
Can you swap the caps of the sticks for GCN caps?
Do you know about the upcoming handheld console is the Next-Gen PSP(PlayStation Portable) in the year 2027?
Honestly all I want is a hori splitpad type controller with rumble, that I can use wirelessly that isn’t literally destined to break, and I’m hoping this is it, it’s really not much to ask lol
So long as hori still become official or licensed Nintendo partner, Nintendo would never allowed split pad to work wirelessly or have gyro, it literally would become a perfect controller for switch and it would destroys joycon/pro controller sale
@@iudexe3103 then they themselves should make the thing we all crave lol
I kinda feel bad for Shank Mods, the person who made the original gamecube joycons, because I feel that this company just stole Shank's idea that he spent a long time on
Is there any problem with movement drift?
how does it compare to exlene gamecube controller?
Backlit buttons?
$80?! They went up on the price? I spent $70 with free shipping just a few days ago. Hopefully they bring the price back down
Got one preordered today for $65.
Theyre still 70 on the website and they offer coupon codes all the times. This video isnt worth shit, half of the info is wrong
Fun upgrade for these.
Get a Dobe (or any other probably) joycon charging grip and cut off the grips with a Dremel. Attach the joycons and enjoy the prolonged battery life!
Paint or skin it to match the joycons too if you want better esthetics.
I hate rear buttons being directly on the grips. Companies need to stop doing that shit.
So these do not have Hall sensor Joysticks? That is a huge let down. Also the C stick is incorrect. Also a major turn off is he said where you put your hands is thinner as well. Which makes them unusable, as that typically would hurt my wrists after a short time playing.
They do have the hall sensors, this video isnt worth shit. He didnt mention that it has gyro and 5 settings of vibration either. All on the website.
As much as I want this controller I'm still happy with my binbok joycons
Can you update them?
I'd buy this if the handle/grips were curved outward just a liiiitle more...similar to xbox or the kingkong pro.
I understand the want to replicate the wavebird to a T - but them bitches are not ergonomic (especially for big hands)
But does it have rumble ??
"...just use a OEM controller..." seems like this one will have stick drifting and problems 🤔
I thought nintendo was supposed to come out with this kind of control when switch came out
Why is Nikola Sarcevic from Millencolin telling me something about a new Gamecube Joy Con??
id be a bit worried in handheld mode of it sort of breaking the switch rails, to much leverage. i have the official Switch GameCube controller i just wish it was rechargeable.
As cool as this would be and I'm super glad to hear that they have made it to where they are independent of each other but the question is can you do button configurations with them? So many controllers I've bought for the switch and they do not pair as a switch pro controller so you can't configure the button layout on them and that is one major downside for me. I had one from GameStop the other week that was like a mini analog joystick controller SNES type thing and it was awesome but it would not let me configure the buttons and that was a big turned off so I went ahead and returned it.
While probably not the definitive answer you're looking for, he did mention that these controllers are seen as regular grey Joy Cons by the console and you can reconfigure the button layout of those in the settings if that's what you mean.
Cool Red XIII pin my dude!
Shank will always be the best
They put a chicken inside of your brain
I wish this were the perfect controller but really it doesnt work for anything other than Smash, at least to me. The abxy button placement is what kills this for me. It was great on NGC but confusing for everything else.
what about motion?
has gyro and 5 settings of rumble according to the website...dude didnt mention like half of the important info
I wish they would make that controller but as a pro controller isntead of joycons. I would use that on pc.
Need bigger joycons for the switch
Noice controller!
oh nice ill form thoughts after watching the video tho in the reply section of this comment
It's $70, not $80 as you claimed.
When online GameCube coming soon
I bought the Nyxi Wizard, and I’m not impressed. The plastic feels cheep, the color is off, and the casting shows imperfections. I feel like everyone has been paid to say good things about it.
it looks bad ass
Just ordered these for $60
Nintendo could release an update to make this controllers useless right ? Or am I just paranoid ? Because if not, I need this …
I dont see how they could because the internals are recognized as joycons.