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I have them as a pet. I also have snails, water mites and daphnia all in the same tank as the scuds and they all seem to get along just fine for the most part.
Perfect puffer food breeding tank
Does the tank smell?
Awesome info, very descriptive and well done video. I’ve seen them on my green beans in shrimp tanks before, had no idea it was that simple to culture them, thanks for sharing!
Lucky Schuck!!! Love your vids, my man. Good to see you here again.
Scuds are so simple and they are very prolific. In fact, just as a heads-up, I've seen them absolutely overrun shrimp colonies. Might be something to watch out for.
@@DansFish I had a backyard tub that I was pulling mosquito larvae, red worms, and daphinia out of. I threw some duckweed from a local pond in there and there must have been scuds in there, since they have now replaced the daphinia and red worms.
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Bummer. The bloodworms and Dapnnia were good sources of live food :(
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Oh, man!!! Thanks for the feeding tips!
I got scuds somewhere (no clue where, all the live plants I have in the 10 gallon "scud tank" actually a pest snail tank, lol).
I tried overripe banana and they went insane!!!!!
They're entertaining, but sometimes I do feed them to my bettas.
Everything you said is opposite of what I've been taught
Thanks Dan,
Just got my scuds yesterday and the fork in a food idea is genius. Love it.
Dan, great topic! I think Acids may have a larger part to play, maybe, possibly.
As a fly fisher, I get to know a bit about local invertebrates and Schds exist darned near everywhere. I have seen them from about 3/16 of an inch, to darn near large enough to fillet, they are one of the top food invertebrates out there. They are prolific and do not need heat to survive. Most ice fishers will see them when they drill holes, Gammarus are everywhere. They are also good at cleaning up garbage, waste, protein based foods. I have watched them help in the disposal of dead fish, though never to the point where you could say they predate on them (Fry) I would not say they wouldn't. They sort of seem to be on the carnivorous side of the food chain.
Yep, awesome fish food, but I wonder how they would be as part of the clean up crew?
I think they are an amazing part of a clean up crew until they get eaten. I do think they would prey on small fish fry before the fry become free swimming...that jucy yolk sac would just be too tempting. And they will eat protien as well, but that gets stinky in an aquarium, so I generally stick with veggies. They grow well on them and they stink less.
Great food oh and scuds love hornwort. Thanks for sharing 💯💗👍✌️
What is their scientific name ? I don't recognise them; they look a bit like grown brine shrimp.
Amphipods
Hello is pumice stone lava rocks?
Yep
Hi.
Are they dangerous to fish eggs or fish fry ?
Yes
Great tutorial. Thank you Dan. Now I can start my own scuds. This is something I have been wanted to do for a very long time. Just didn't know how to. I will now be ordering a culture.
How quickly do they reproduce? Could they be the sole staple food item? Is there a stocking density that they will start killing each other, or maybe crash the tank?
Bananas including the peels?
First, if you're interested in scuds, absolutely buy from Dan since he sends a fantastic amount. Secondly, do they need a lid?
Im gonna start cultivating these for my bumblebee gobies
The only thing I don't like about scuds is that if they get into a tank with no predators like a shrimp tank they will take over and they really like to eat java moss.
Time for some predators 😂
@@OfficialZombieStrats My Dragon Puffer and Miurus puffer would kill any fish I put with them but they don't eat scuds, in fact it looks like the scuds might be eating the puffers. I am looking into nuking them with medication for fish lice.
Found your video after hearing Cory (Aquarium Co-OP) talk about scuds. I was trying to raise snails for my pea puffer and these little guys showed up. I wasn't getting many snails so, I started feeding these to the puffer. She loves them and so does her tank mate, a huge ghost shrimp. I really had no idea what they were called. I had even taken some of these to the only fish store we have (50 miles away) and the owner could not tell me what they were. I had no idea what to feed them to keep them going. I was using vacation fish feeders but I noticed that they were also eating the snails. Gave them some cooked carrots after seeing this and they swarmed on them. Now I know how to keep them coming. Thanks for a great video.
Thanks for the vid! I just got my first scuds for betta food and this was very clear and informative.
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Nice videos you got there, I was especially taken by this one. I just collected A LOT of scuds at a local lake and put them in a cycled aquarium. The gravel is medium to coarse and I have the whole back covered with plants. There are also 2 HOB filters on it which run only about 10 minutes per day.
BUT… all the scuds hang out AT THE TOP in the corners of the tank and on the filter outlets or just zoom around the surface, they hardly ever go deeper into the water 😐
WHY❓ Is the water too dirty❓ Not enough oxygen in the water❓
Please give me your thoughts❗
Thanks
could be lack of oxygen, they don't seem bothered by dirty water.
Thanks for the I info on them. I recently found some in my planted tank and have no clue where they came from. I guess i can feed them to my angelfish.
Your angels will thank you.
Hey Dan, I'm getting the scuds I ordered tomorrow. Do you acclimate them same as fish? I usually drip acclimate everything.
We just make sure they are up to tank temp and then put them in the tank. No drip acclimation has been necessary in our experience
Do you sell starter cultures of scuds?
Hi Dan:
Where do you get the starter?
Thanks.
Why, Ben. I'm so glad you asked! I have some available here if you want: getgills.com/product.detail/396
Which species/genus are they?
Dan, I enjoyed the video. Quick question though, are scuds small enough to be eaten by harlequin rasboras and dwarf gouramis? it was hard for me to tell how they would compare to say Daphnia magna. The ease of culturing does interest me greatly. And since my Cory Cats keep breeding i have a lot more mouths to feed. Oh yeah, one other thing. Do you think having a blackwater tank would would affect the culture? Thanks for any help.
Dwarf Gouramis would probably eat them, rasboras might only eat smaller ones. I don't think blackwater would hurt them much they are very hardy.
I accidentally introduced several of these guys into my planted tank. Are they going to eat all my plants?
Depends on the plant and if there are other food sources in the tank. Over time, they may eat the plants if the scud population gets big enough. If the population stays small, they will likely help the plants by eating dead leaves and algae.
They won't starve, they get cannibalistic to a scary degree. They don't need plants at the top just a daily feeding. I fed leftover fish food, betta bites etc. Good to know they like banana and pumpkin because you can cut it up and freeze the meals for later. These are smaller that water beetles where 5 water beetles can overpower shrimp and such. If you add them to a fish tank...it might be wise to watch for them...the fish will keep their size in check but not their prolific nature to gang up if left to grow bigger.
Thanks for sharing your experience with scuds.
I use prime - it seems to be fine
can you raise scuds in a tank with an undergravel filter ?
Yep! They would love burrowing into the gravel
Anyone know if that blob of algae filled Java moss can act like a feeder during a few days away??
-It appears it would work well... if the fish don't shred the thing all at once.
Do scuds need a heater and if so what temperature
I'm not sure how they would do at cold temps...probably fine, but I keep mine at 79F, so I'm not sure about their long-term cold tolerance.
Wow I think this is one of the best scud cultures I've seen including my own. Definitely gonna take some pointers from your setup very nice. I have a few buckets with live plants hornwort and little have moss and some leaves at the bottom mine seem to by doing good but I like your setup
I ordered plants and they came with scuds! How do I get rid of them in my shrimp tank :( what are some predator fish?
I am in the same predicament. I tried guppies but they’re to slow and dumb. I read something about African dwarf frogs being good at eliminating them but am afraid of what it will do to my shrimp.
@@AayDee I used to have dwarf frogs and I got rid of them because they ate some of my shrimp---- they are slow though so I doubt they will decimate the colony... I will try it... thanks- I ended up getting apistogramas - they are eating my shrimp too. I m lucky I have hundreds of shrimp
@@redking1831 They will take over a tank and love to devour moss. When predators are around they become more active at night, I didn't realize how many I had in some tanks till I looked in with a flashlight after lights out. Loaches and catfish are usually nocturnal and will keep them in check but your shrimp are also on the menu. To truly rid them from a shrimp tank you almost have to move the shrimp to a new tank. Plants can be sterilized with a Potassium permanganate dip but I would even keep them under observation in a separate tank for many weeks to make sure no babies made it through.
Wow gr8 info
Do you cook the pumpkin or use raw?
I've done both. The pumpkin in the vid is not cooked, but it has been frozen, so that softens it up a bit. For hard veggies like carrots, I think a quick steam or boil to soften them helps. They tend to want to eat dead stuff, and lots of veggies are still "living" until they are cooked or frozen.
The scuds I have will absolutely destroy java moss and damage java fern.
I find them difficult to get rid of.
Do you have any suggestions about how many you need to start with? I bought 25 and put them in a 10g similar to your setup.
The European ones grow pretty big, almost cherry shrimp size. Great for puffers and larger fish.
I have some in a jar as well as some flatworms and microscopic creatures and plants. Watching them swim is satisfying.
What filter do you use? I am in process of starting a tank of scuds and I don't want to suck them up with wrong filter
Can I mix Scuds with black worms together? Right now I have two 2 gallon tanks for both of the live foods but not sure if its too small for them. I have a 7 gallon tub I can use. =) thanks for the video!
Do you think scuds will eat betta fry? Or any other baby fish? Like guppies and so, I just found some scuds in my betta fry tank.
Thank you.
I am not sure. I've raised killifish and ricefish with scuds, but never fry that are not free swimming from the get go. I don't know if scuds would eat itty-bitty fry like bettas, especially before they are free swimming.
I have a bunch that just appeared in my shrimp tank and I dont have anything that eats them so they're happy
What temperature do you keep your scud tank at?
Normal fishroom temperature of mid-upper 70's. They can take it a lot cooler and a lot hotter...tough little customers!
If you feed them protein will they produce more eggs?
Do all fish eat scuds?
Not all, but most will. Scuds can get a bit too big for smaller fish, but the fish will definitely pick off the babies.
The most informative and complete video about scuds and how to keep them I’ve been able to find, thank you!
My your scuds ever Live Long and Prosper!
would they eat fish fry?
nice, now, where and how to get em?
The title made me laugh lol Great information Dan Thanks!
Are freshwater skuds (amphipods) safe for nanofish (have pecock gudgeons, khuli loaches, and bumblbees gobies) got a awsome deal on floating plants at a lfs and they hitched a ride on my red duckweed and now im like... Should i even put the plants in with my lil guys? Lol
Hello Michael,
IME, scuds are fine with little fish. The only time I think they might be an issue is if they are with very small fry or fry that are not yet free swimming.
I got scuds by accident 🤦🏻♂️ I bought a lot of guppy grass from a local breeder and they took over a 10g I have 2 aldino koi females I had 1 male aldino koi two but past away and a am 99.98 percent sure that that they ate him while he passed I was on a trip so that’s what I think what happen to him
They will eat anything and will take over a tank if predators are not there. Guppys will eat some but since scuds are more active at night you almost need a nocturnal predator to keep them in check.
Great vid might have to raise these to feed my fish
Hi, thanx for sharing your videos, they are greate. i have just collected som scuds localy, and the adults are huge (1")2,5cm. my question is, in how high density can they be cultured if waterquality and feed are at optimum at all times?
Howdy Martin,
I don't know about 1" scuds, but my little guys can be raised in VERY high population densities. Sponge filter, plants, and daily auto water changes probably make that possible..oh, and food. LOTS of food.
Will these outcompete my shrimp?
Great video! Appreciate all the info put together so well
My 55 is over run by scuds. I hope I can use this to remove the majority. Didn’t realize they were in such a great population. I guess the Ameca were eating them. They are eating my plants.
They are amazing fish food...that is money!
I know but right now they are a pain in my behind. Lol.
I have a scud tank that I don’t do water changes, just add new water. How do you manage water changes without sucking them all up since they’re so small. I haven’t changed water because I’m scared I’d suck them all up with the small culture I have
I would also like to know this.
Don't do water changes or just siphon water through a mesh
These hve invaded my shrimp tank and i hate it. Any suggestions on scud removal ????? They breed like rabbits
Embrace the scud
Do you have a link to purchase scuds so I can get started. Have been wanting to do this for a while. I will also be getting the blackworms I purchased, this week. We have pea puffers, discus, fancy freshwater shrimp and some bushynose plecos we are growing out to breed, oh and out betta sorority . So ya fun stuff, I want to get into the life foods. Thank u for your video, great info.
Goliad farms is where I get mine.
Lol I guess I'm the weird one because I have a semi-enclosed ecosystem and I'm trying to figure out how to get them to thrive. I love the scuds and isopods and I want them to take off so I don't have to worry about having predators in the tank with them.
I've had success keeping them in a closed ecosystem for about a year before it crashed- It needs to very heavily planted to last much longer then that since they produce ammonia like fish that will build up and cause a crash without enough plants to absorb it. Also once the colony gets pretty large I believe you will need to cull it regardless of the tank or they will eat everything.
Are scuds terrestrial ?
I'm seriously thinking of starting a culture. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Very informative!
I've never regretted taking the tank space to have the scud culture...they are such useful little critters!
How often should I feed them?
Very helpful thanks 🙏
Hey I checked out your stores page. I'm guessing the cost comes in to shippping. But you should sell for more.locally , thanks good work.
Thanks for stoping by, Upside!
Where do you get them to start? Do they just lay eggs and then multiply?
The male grips onto the female kind-a like brine shrimp do. If I understand correctly, the eggs are carried in a brood pouch until they hatch. This behavior is why they are sometimes referred to as "marsupial shrimp." The eggs hatch into miniatures of the adults and, viola, a new generation. I just feed them and they multiply like crazy.
Could ramshorn snail breed regularly in the same tank as scuds, or will the scuds eat the snail eggs?
They can, but the scuds will compete with them for resources to the point that the snails won't reproduce very quickly unless there is a TON of food put in the aquarium.
Hello. I discovered your video on scuds. Thank you. I am setting up a 5 gallon tank to culture them, however how many do you think can live in a filter 5 gallon tank? Thanks for your time. Tamara
Give me an update I just ordered some the other day and plan on putting them in a planted 2.5 gal unfiltered planted tank
1000’s!
They are a nuisance in a wastewater treatment plant!! 😳😳🙄
We have trillions of them!! Looking for more information if someone could point me in the right direction.
Are they too big for guppies to eat?
Nope. Adult guppies can handle them just fine IME.
cant find scuds on wiki , it just says tactical ballistic missiles ??
Type in "scud animal" or "scud insect".
Or gammuras
Awesome video Thanks for sharing FishFam NJAE19
You got it, V.Stag!
BTW, I'm loving the killifish vids you have been doing. I hope you are able to raise a ton of fry from those beautiful blue gularis.
Hey from another Dan, are they ok with bladder snails, I have them in a tank breeding for the puffers I have, wondered if I could just chuck them in the same tank, rather than setting up another
If you feed the scuds well I think they will be fine, if they run out of stuff to eat there might be a problem.
When these showed up in my snail tank, I had no idea what they were or how to care for them. They did eat a lot of the snails. I actually saw this happening but didn't know how to stop it. Thankfully I found this very informative video.
Thank you both, I removed the snails and gave them their own tank anyway, probably 20 minutes after I asked I saw one slowly eating the eggs, and you were right as there was not a lot of food available at the time lol
OK i'm sold, as soon as you said puffers lol than you for the information much appreciated
I'll be getting Pea Puffers as soon is I have a tank available.
My extra is currently housing a juvenile female Dwarf Gourami, and it'll be a while before she grows out.
Then I have to wait for both male and female to be in breeding condition before I introduce them.
By then, there should be tons of Trumpet Snails and I'll have lots of scuds, Daphnia and frozen items for my new puffers.
How long do you leave the pumpkin/food for?
Until it is gone. A chunk that size is usually eaten in 2 days or so in my colony. In the aquarium below the one shown in this vid, I put in excess veggies on purpose so I can sustain an infusoria bloom. The scuds don't seem to mind in the least.
Interesting video, very nice.
Thanks again, Brantov. It is always nice to see your comments.
Where do you get the to start culture?
Usually Ebay or online suppliers. Goliad fish farm in Texas sells them by the thousands... not cheap like ebay...
My son has some of these as pets caught from the river
Nice! They are a ton of fun to watch.
Where do you get them (to start a colony)? Do you sell starter groups?
small amounts, ebay...
if you get them from a drainage ditch or pond, you apparently should watch the culturing scuds vid by Mischief and Fins... and If you don't wait and watch your culture, you may end up with some Planaria flatworms or other parasites... to kill with fish meds. -Good Luck!
How about how to get rid of them
Dimilin-X is a medicine that should get rid of them. Basically, any medicine that kills shrimp is likely to kill scuds.
were do i get scuds ?
I use goliad farms in corpus christy area. He has videos too.
sweet
groovy
Helpful!! You’re awesome!
Glad the vid helped!
Where do you buy scuds to start with.
eBay
Yes, I bought mine from eBay.
GREAT INFO!!
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Two serious questions, will Cory catfish eat these? & I have them popping up in my aquarium that’s heavily planted and been established for about 4 years. Just recently started seeing them pop up a bunch. Are they a sign of bad conditions? Or did I do something wrong? I added a section of sand from my lfs and all the sudden boom everywhere.
Also roses reds will they eat them aswell?
@@renewillard777
Scuds hide in the gravel and are hard to eradicate.
MadCity Jack I knew that much about them, I’ve been doing some research but none about what went wrong.
@@renewillard777
My guess is that you put too many in at one time, more than your fish could consume.
MadCity Jack I never added any scuds. That’s my problem lol.
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Will the real Nola Jane please stand up? :)
Thanks for stopping by!
Will they eat string algae?
Yes. IME, they eat every kind of algae except for small algaes that are suspended in the water column (green water).
@@DansFish
Great. The green water is reserved for the Daphnia.
The scuds will function to clean up the string algae so the Daphnia won't get tangled in it.
Is it true that scuds attack newly molted shrimp?
Will they bother an Atya gabonensis (Vampire Shrimp)?
Hey Dan. Thanks for sharing ☺️
Maria,
Thanks for stopping by. BTW, I'll be contacting you to see how the gudgeons are faring soon.
Dans Fish Hi Dan. Just got home from work and so far so good. They all seem to be doing fine 😊 a real credit to the way you cared for them and packed them up! I still can’t believe I only lost 1 after 3 days in the polar vortex. From now on I’m calling you “Dan The Man” lol
Glad to hear you had no further losses.
Where do you get them?
I've got some for sale here: getgills.com/product.detail/396
@@DansFish it says the "stock level" is 2 is that how much it comes with
That means there are 2 starter cultures available. The starter culture has a big scoop of scuds in it.
@@DansFish thanks
Thank you, I've been kind of winging it with these . Focusing on other parts of the fish room. Cool to stumble across some detailed experience.
Do you do Grindal and White Worm cultures? If so, curious to know how you keep them and split them.
Aluring Bettas,
Thanks for stopping by! I have done grindal worms in the past. However, I've had terrible luck with grindal cultures introducing mites to the live food rack to the point that the mites absolutely over ran EVERYTHING except for vinegar eels. Fruit flies-gone. Micro meal worms-gone. Micro worms-gone. I've never found a mite-free grindal starter, so I avoid them these days. I've never had white worms that I can remember because of their cool temp requirement.
Dans Fish it seems to be a problem for everyone!! LOL. Anyway, if you ever have any Betta Rubra or Channoides, let me know!! Alluring.Bettas@gmail.com. You collaborated with getgills.com right?
Will do. I have rubra, I'm just waiting for this next round of shipments to go out before I can accurately count how many I have left. Once I know, I will list them. I will put you on the Fish WIsh list and contact you at that time...probably early next week.
Dans Fish thanks so much, Dan. I can’t wait! Rubra are another one of my favorites! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Do scuds eat newborn cherry shrimp ?
Is it safe to keep both scuds and cherry shrimp in the same tank ?
I don't think they would eat baby shrimp, but I don't really know and am totally just guessing. HOWEVER, even if they don't eat the shrimp, they will out compete them. If you mix them, you will only have scuds left after a few weeks.
any foods to avoid? i tossed a chunk of carrot in there but no takers so far
try zucchini, they go crazy for it