German Occupation of Ukraine during World War I was more like LIBERATION COMPERE TO WHAT Muscovites occupation - colonization did to Ukraine: Mass Terror, Holdomor, Moscow language schools , GULAG etc.
@@adamradziwill You know, just like Ukraine and Russian's joining Nazi run outfits in the next War, most of them came up from the P.O.Ws held by the Germans at the time.
I have no idea how I stumbled upon your channel all those months ago, but I am so glad I did. You share your knowledge in such an interesting way and always provide facts, not opinions. I have learned so much from your channel. As a 62 year old college graduate in the U.S., I'm so surprised by how much I didn't know about history. Thank you so much for all you do.
Kharkov-Russian city! It was founded in 1630. Tsar Ale Mikh I Mikhailovich built a fortress in 1656 in the Kharkov region. What about Ukraine? Sumi-was founded by Tsar Alex The king allowed the refugees (who fled from Poles) to habitate them . What about Ukraine? Poltava-was in the X During this traitor Hetman v attacc What about Ukraine? DNEPROPETROVSK-founded by Catherine II in 1776 and was called Ekaterinoslav. What about Ukraine? Lugansk-founded in 1795 founded by Catherine II in near Luhan River. What about Ukraine? Kherson-founded by Empress Catherine II in 1778 for the construction of the Russian fleet. Construction was made by Potemkin. What about Ukraine? Donetsk-founded by Emperor Alexander II in 1869 during the construction of a metallurgical plant in Y What about Ukraine? Nikolaev-founded by Empress Catherine II in 1789. At this time there Potemkin built ship "St. Nicholas". And here in Ukraine? ODESSA-founded by Catherine II in 1794 on the site of a fortress, built a little earlier Graf Suvorov. What about Ukraine? Tschernihiv - one of the oldest Russian cities, existed in the early 10th century. In 1503 it was part of Russia. In 1611 it was destroyed by the Poles. But in 1654, Tschernihiv returned to Russia and since then has always been a part of Russia. The question is: where and Ukraine? Simferopol-founded by Catherine II in 1784. It was built on the site of Potemkin and Suvorov military camp near the Tatar colony. What about Ukraine? SEBASTOPOL-founded by Catherine II in 1783 on the site of a fortress built before Suvorov. Built the city of Potemkin. What about Ukraine? Mariupol-founded in 1778 by Catherine II. The Greeks inhabited them-immigrants from the Crimea. What about Ukraine? Krivo R Rog-founded by Catherine II in 1775. And development comme industrial center, such as base metals. What about Ukraine? Zaporozhe What about Ukraine? Kirovograd-was founded in 1754 by the Russian Empress Elizabeth, as a fortress to protect the southern borders of the Russian Empire against Tatars. His name was Elizabethgrad. What about Ukraine?
@@HistoryHustle Kharkov-Russian city! It was founded in 1630. Tsar Ale Mikh I Mikhailovich built a fortress in 1656 in the Kharkov region. What about Ukraine? Sumi-was founded by Tsar Alex The king allowed the refugees (who fled from Poles) to habitate them . What about Ukraine? Poltava-was in the X During this traitor Hetman v attacc What about Ukraine? DNEPROPETROVSK-founded by Catherine II in 1776 and was called Ekaterinoslav. What about Ukraine? Lugansk-founded in 1795 founded by Catherine II in near Luhan River. What about Ukraine? Kherson-founded by Empress Catherine II in 1778 for the construction of the Russian fleet. Construction was made by Potemkin. What about Ukraine? Donetsk-founded by Emperor Alexander II in 1869 during the construction of a metallurgical plant in Y What about Ukraine? Nikolaev-founded by Empress Catherine II in 1789. At this time there Potemkin built ship "St. Nicholas". And here in Ukraine? ODESSA-founded by Catherine II in 1794 on the site of a fortress, built a little earlier Graf Suvorov. What about Ukraine? Tschernihiv - one of the oldest Russian cities, existed in the early 10th century. In 1503 it was part of Russia. In 1611 it was destroyed by the Poles. But in 1654, Tschernihiv returned to Russia and since then has always been a part of Russia. The question is: where and Ukraine? Simferopol-founded by Catherine II in 1784. It was built on the site of Potemkin and Suvorov military camp near the Tatar colony. What about Ukraine? SEBASTOPOL-founded by Catherine II in 1783 on the site of a fortress built before Suvorov. Built the city of Potemkin. What about Ukraine? Mariupol-founded in 1778 by Catherine II. The Greeks inhabited them-immigrants from the Crimea. What about Ukraine? Krivo R Rog-founded by Catherine II in 1775. And development comme industrial center, such as base metals. What about Ukraine? Zaporozhe What about Ukraine? Kirovograd-was founded in 1754 by the Russian Empress Elizabeth, as a fortress to protect the southern borders of the Russian Empire against Tatars. His name was Elizabethgrad. What about Ukraine?
Goedenavond Stefan. I had wanted to know more about this almost forgotten occupation, and you made this great video. Keep it up! Also, you Inspired me to learn Dutch too. Unit 8 in Duolingo now. Great video by the way!
Hello, I'm from Ukraine! It was not German occupation back then. Austria-Hungary and German Empire were our Allies after Brest-Litovsk Treaty. We needed their help against Bolsheviks, they needed our grain and other food stuff due to naval blockade. But later when they came on our territory, yes, they start to behave like occupants. And by the way. If we remember about German occupation of Ukraine in WW2 why we don't talk about Russian(Soviet) occupation of Ukraine in WW2? The part of Ukraine due to our defeat in Polish -Ukranian war of 1919 was occuppied by Poland. And while Germans in the Semptember of 1939 went on Poland from the West Soviets were going there from the East occupying Ukranian and Belarusian lands that were previously occupied by Poland. Why don't we speak about Soviet occupation of Western Ukraine in 1939-1941 and again since 1944? Why don't we speak about Soviet occupation of 2/3 of Ukraine territories(territories of Ukraine People's Republic, Українська народна республіка, УНР) from 1920 to 1941 and all territories of Ukraine People's Republic from 1944 to 1991? Why we talk only about Germans, Germans, Germans, a little bit of 'Austro-Hungarians' and then again Germans? Understand, we(Ukraine) was not an empire wich competed with other empires for world dominance or regional dominance, we were and still are the nation which wants to have our own national state. And what is called 'German occupation of 1918' in that video didn't gave us as much problems as regular invasions of Red and White Russians in the period from 1917 to 1920. German occupation of Ukraine in WW2 lasts from 1941 to 1943 if we talk about the eastern regions and from 1941 to 1944 if we talk about the western ones. And it brought to us much less trouble then the Soviet occupation two decades before then and almost five decades after then. And negative influence of Russian Empire and USSR on Ukraine was much bigger that of Kaiserreich, Third Reich, Austrian Empire and Austro-Hungary altogether. Even if we compare Austrian Empire(later Austro-Hungary) to Russian Empire/ Life for Ukranians were much better in The Habsburg Empire than in Muscovy(no matter how it calls itsef). Thank you if you read this all. But I will be a lot more greatful if you, Western Europeans, Canadians, Americans, New Zealenders and Australians will understand us(Ukranians) and other Eastern Europeans better. I understand that for Western Europe and America with Canada Germany was seen as major enemy and Russia was seen like some distant, maybe exotic that could be used as an ally against Germany(but that not always a case. Remember Soviet-German Alliance in 1939-41 and peace proposals during the both World Wars between Russia and Germany). But here in Ukraine and some other Eastern European countries Russia(no matter how it calls) was almost always an enemy, archenemy, existencial enemy. With all best wishes.
Ive never heard of German or Austrian-Hungarian soldiers joining with independent revolutionary/anarchist forces before and the idea is fascinating. Do you have any sources to recommend on this?
i don't have a proper source, but i can deduce that since most of the survivors of ukranian guerilla ambushes were rank and file conscripts and both empires had sizeable national minorities like poles, slovaks and ukranian themselves. it wasn't that far-fectched that some stayed with the guerillas instead of braving the journey back home alone.
@@ernstschmidt4725 , it also makes sense that conscripts from peasant families would see some appeal in Bolshevism. When you know you'll return home to nothing, the thought of "sharing" in the greater wealth might be irresistible. How could you know that in a decade or two, Uncle Joe would liquidate you and anyone else, kulak or not, for the greater Soviet good?
That was a good basic video. As I have said before, this is a VERY complicated era, with so many things happening at the same time that it can make your head spin, like the ding dong at 6:35. I have to admit, that caught me off guard. Anyway, you take it easy. (P.S. I liked the outfit and helmet. All you needed was a stein full of beer and you'd be perfect. That might be a good set-up for a Freikorps video, actually.)
German Occupation of Ukraine during World War I was more like LIBERATION COMPERE TO WHAT Muscovites occupation - colonization did to Ukraine: Mass Terror, Holdomor, Moscow language schools , GULAG etc.
Ok, this are some new learnings for me. I always thought that the German occupation was relatively light on the Ukrainians. Especially if you read the letters from German soldiers from the second world war when they were greeted by Ukrainians with flowers, bread and salt when they "liberated" their villages. But it seems that soviet occupation and the Holodomor were so horrible that they even greeted those who pillaged them 25 years earlier.
@@AVKnecht you don't understand me. Germans killed 5 million Ukrainian people during occupation WW2. They didn't give flowers. 1.5 million were Jews. Where are you from? I am Israeli my parents from Ukraine.
@@watchingvids9899 There are thousands of letters, pictures and what not from German soldiers when they INITIALLY went into Ukraine. I don't question that the Einsatzgruppen, the SS and even the Wehrmacht afterwards killed horribly many people, Jews, Gypsies, Ukrainians, Russians, and Tatars. But at the start of the Operation Barbarossa most Ukrainians welcomed the Germans as liberators.
@@AVKnecht ethnic Ukrainians welcomed them* which is different from just a resident of the Ukrainian Soviet socialist republic. There were more than 2 million Ukrainian Jews.
Interesting side note: The Ottoman Empire was also a signatory of the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, hence Turkish was one of the official languages for the documents. It can be seen at 02:34 in the video, in the 4th column. Turkish at the time was written in Arabic script.
This is perhaps an interesting tidbit. My family are Jews from Belarus and experienced the German occupation in the First World War. According to the few members of my family that survived the Holocaust, in the run-up to WWII many Jews in the area thought that Germans being vicious antisemites was Soviet propaganda. How could, in only 20 years, the Germans, whom in 1917-18 were quite kind to Jews and thought of as the height of civilization, become genocidal antisemites!? Many Jews may have died rather than escaped out of simple disbelief that the Germans of 1941 were really that much different from the Germans of 1918
So you're trying to say that "they" don't want us to know about this occupation, therefore making it more obvious that a lot of Ukrainians supported the Nazis? I think the only "they" that would want us to be more aware of that is Putin and his government because it makes Ukraine look worse. Besides I really don't think this played much into what happened in the 40s. Most of the men that collaborated were a new generation that didn't experience this and the previous occupation doesn't seem to be too important to them compared to their hatred of Communism that likely killed at least one person close to them in the famine
His Highness Hetman Skoropadsky got the country in ruins, the railway did not work, the factories stood up after their "nationalization", the trade of the time of the Empire with Britain/France and especially Italy is absent. The previous government signed completely unfavorable grain supply conditions with Germany and so on. In 3 months, the trains were moving again, the peasants regained their land and opened at least some kind of market (German), they sold to the authorities at cost price in a mandatory manner, and the authorities exports for a slightly higher price. In the 7th month of his administration, the Minister of Finance reported that "next year the Treasury will be in surplus." Ukrainian schools and universities were opened, Cossack culture was revived. Regarding agreements with Germany, Skoropadsky was able to raise the price of sugar (half of the budget came from him) from 100 hryvnias per poud (16.4 kg) to 120 hryvnias. He blackmailed germans that he would not sell bread then. Germany also paid duty for goods crossing the border. I want to emphasize that it was profitable for the peasants to sell to the state and then export to Germany, because there was simply no other place where all this could be done. But the land problem was present, approximately 60% of the peasants had less than 2 hectares of land (the other 40% had from 8 to 20 hectares), so they struggled with the socialists' promises of equal distribution. The land reform was planned for March 1919. An army of 300,000 soldiers was planned for January 1919, but Germany lost earlier, having with him ~20,000 hetmans, he fought against the rebellion of the socialists, who in a week became ~40,000 soldiers. The same socialists then fought with the Bolsheviks (starts with ~30.000 soldiers) with an army of ~100,000, but which dispersed or went over to the Reds.
Another excellent video !…It fascinates me, also, regarding the polemics and squabbles swirling amongst people like a Lenin, Trotsky. , Bukharin, etc. Receiving Brest Litovsk with cries of ‘ Peace ! ‘, ‘ War ! ‘, or, ‘ Neither peace nor war ! ‘. I wonder, too, if any proto-Nazi, proto-Freikorp types viewed the treaty as a welcome step toward ‘ lebenstraum ‘…..
Occupation?! If something it was occupied by Lithuanians in 1939! Everyone there was polish, everyone there wanted to be part of Poland! It was internationaly recognised as part of Poland! So how was it a occupation! If something it was liberation!
@@maksjahnz1217 For the people that were living there, it was intergral part of Poland, and there wasn't any separatist movement by them. You know why? They were polish, and they wanted to stay as such, but lithuanian government didn't cared!
A sharp uniform and a sharp presentation. Thank you for filling in that gap of our knowledge about Germany in Ukraine in 1918. It must have been one of the things that encouraged Hitler to try for a repeat.
Germans joined the Revolution back in the Germany. Hungarians also joined back in the Budapest. Polish prevented the Soviets of joining the German social overturn.
hard to appreciate today just what it was in the collapse of the Russian Empire... from Finland to Ukraine it was chaotic and bewildering. Germany must have thought they were on the cusp of victory with the Russians throwing in the towel at Brest-Litovsk .. giving them everything they wanted!
Thanks for illuminating this fascinating but almost unknown moment in history. The very very very few times I have heard this period referenced it was usually to say that the Germans of 1918 were 'nice' compared to the SS of 1941-44.
@@HistoryHustle As Ukranian) There's a lot of picture comparison of Ukranian and Russian peasants on Internet of the times of late Russian Empire/early Soviet Union. And there are also enough pictures of Ukranian peasents solely
@@HistoryHustle Ukranians don't like to be confused with Russians) No offense. By the way do you want to make video about Soviet occupation of Western UKraine and Western Belarus 1939-41 and/or 1944 onwards? Or maybe about Soviet invasion on Poland in 1939?
Excellant coverage Dutch History man unfoetunatly the modern Universities dont seem to teach this stuff ? the marxist woke young people would benifit to studying this crucial period in 20th Cenrtury develooment I find it fascinating cheers from Scotland
Could you make a video about the non-German soldiers that fought for the wehrmacht? I heard that as many as 1 million foreigners fought in the German Army in WW2.
For balance it’s important to note that hundreds of thousands of Europeans and Germans fought alongside the Red Army in WW2. The Czechoslovakian Legion who liberated Kiev with the Red Army, Berling’s 200,000 strong Polish Pro Communist Army, the Belarusian and Jewish Partizans, the Bulgarian army that was involved in the capture of Vienna, the Yugoslav Partizan army, the Greek Partizans and the Romanian’s who fought with the Red Army in Hungary. Even the Finns changed sides in 1944. See also below ‘Quite a number of Soviet Germans ended up in partisan detachments and resistance groups. Their knowledge of the German language made them invaluable and they were frequently used in sabotage and reconnaissance operations. One of the most effective partisan commanders of the entire war was Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander German, who was killed in 1943. His brigade succeeded in wiping out 17 German garrisons and 70 rural district administrations, blowing up 31 rail bridges and killing up to 10,000 enemy soldiers’
@ 2' 45" = What a strange and unhappy map. What were the Germs thinking ? That there would be no war in their Ostsiedlung Lebensraum ? Their settlements would have been for fairy stories like that of the Ost Viking fairies. What were they intending ? How they behaved in West Poland and West Bohemia. Surround an area and then suffocate the center. Then call it GroBdeutschland. The Polish were having non of that. Did their rebellions save Slavia from genocide ?
No wonder modern Ukraine wants the security of being within NATO. Ironically, that understandable desire has brought grief to Ukraine once again. PS: you do great work.
Ukraine regime should have adhered to the Minsk agreements guaranteed by Germany and France that they (all) reneged on. Similar to the breaking of the Munich agreements in 1938.
🤦.. you ignore the long history of bukowina to profligate an anti german ..pro Russian naritive of late events in that area. The entire full history reflects differently.
@informedtraveler you're very right. My own familly is very german and always has been despite having lived in Galicia for 400yrs. My great grandfather fought the Russians at czernowitz when the orc horde invaded then. This whole idea that the area was conquered later by Germans negates the reality that previously it was german
@@Tusk926 That’s some cool history you have with your family. My family is Ukrainian and I’ve done some reading about how they had the most freedom under the Austrians than under the Poles and Russians. Makes sense why the Western Ukrainians fought for them in both world wars.
At the outbreak of the First World War, Galicia was a province of Austria. It include part of what is now the western part of the Ukraine. The capital was at Lemberg, now known as Lviv. The population was Polish and Ruthenian, with many other ethnic groups. German, of course, was the official language but only about 1% of the population spoke German. At the outbreak of the War, Galicia was, therefore, automatically on the side of the Central Powers. It was not under German command until very late in the War, when the Germans discovered that Kaiser Karl had been negotiating secretly with the French seeking ways of bringing the War to an end. The Austrian forces were then brought under direct German command.
Ukraine priests who went serving to Peter-1, advised him to give the moskovia a new name- russia in 1701. So Ukraine has made the russia in reality. Go watch the old russian coins before 1715 and you'll see no russia name there haha
Meanwhile I consider getting my 10 cats fed and settled in for the evening a major accomplishment and the closest thing to world domination to which I aspire.
@@HistoryHustle tell me wat war was without an conspiracy or was not a conspiracy?... stop believing mainstream news...or dictated history.. the winners Write..the dictated.history and new propaganda...cause history repeats its self... do ur research... if i am only 1% Wright.. shit is very wrong....xxxx one love
@@HistoryHustle, Because Russian Empire collapsed in 1917 and Ukraine returned her own Independence. Russian Revolution invades Ukraine in 1917. Read the History
@@HistoryHustle It's you doesn't know this. Russia Empire collapsed after German Empire defeat it and Ukraine returned her Independence, but Russia doesn't wanted to lose Ukraine and started a war against our country Ukraine
ukraine did not even exist until 1919 when the USSR created it from Russian,Polish and Hungarian territory.They gave the far west Russian territory of Donbas to create east ukraine.
Nestor Makhno and his movement:
ruclips.net/video/UWwEnAheJsQ/видео.html
Ukrainian War of Independence:
ruclips.net/video/6g4o3mILWao/видео.html
German Occupation of Ukraine during World War I was more like LIBERATION COMPERE TO WHAT Muscovites occupation - colonization did to Ukraine: Mass Terror, Holdomor, Moscow language schools , GULAG etc.
where did you get 50 k German or Austrian-Hungarian soldiers joining Moscow "red army " ?
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@@adamradziwill From all the P.O.Ws held by the formally Tzarist forces, joining the new Red Army, out of deological conviction. That's how.
@@adamradziwill You know, just like Ukraine and Russian's joining Nazi run outfits in the next War, most of them came up from the P.O.Ws held by the Germans at the time.
I have no idea how I stumbled upon your channel all those months ago, but I am so glad I did. You share your knowledge in such an interesting way and always provide facts, not opinions. I have learned so much from your channel. As a 62 year old college graduate in the U.S., I'm so surprised by how much I didn't know about history. Thank you so much for all you do.
Great to read. Many thanks for your reply!
Kharkov-Russian city! It was founded in 1630. Tsar Ale Mikh I Mikhailovich built a fortress in 1656 in the Kharkov region. What about Ukraine?
Sumi-was founded by Tsar Alex The king allowed the refugees (who fled from Poles) to habitate them . What about Ukraine?
Poltava-was in the X During this traitor Hetman v attacc What about Ukraine?
DNEPROPETROVSK-founded by Catherine II in 1776 and was called Ekaterinoslav. What about Ukraine?
Lugansk-founded in 1795 founded by Catherine II in near Luhan River. What about Ukraine?
Kherson-founded by Empress Catherine II in 1778 for the construction of the Russian fleet. Construction was made by Potemkin. What about Ukraine?
Donetsk-founded by Emperor Alexander II in 1869 during the construction of a metallurgical plant in Y What about Ukraine?
Nikolaev-founded by Empress Catherine II in 1789. At this time there Potemkin built ship "St. Nicholas". And here in Ukraine?
ODESSA-founded by Catherine II in 1794 on the site of a fortress, built a little earlier Graf Suvorov. What about Ukraine?
Tschernihiv - one of the oldest Russian cities, existed in the early 10th century. In 1503 it was part of Russia. In 1611 it was destroyed by the Poles. But in 1654, Tschernihiv returned to Russia and since then has always been a part of Russia. The question is: where and Ukraine?
Simferopol-founded by Catherine II in 1784. It was built on the site of Potemkin and Suvorov military camp near the Tatar colony. What about Ukraine?
SEBASTOPOL-founded by Catherine II in 1783 on the site of a fortress built before Suvorov. Built the city of Potemkin. What about Ukraine?
Mariupol-founded in 1778 by Catherine II. The Greeks inhabited them-immigrants from the Crimea. What about Ukraine?
Krivo R Rog-founded by Catherine II in 1775. And development comme industrial center, such as base metals. What about Ukraine?
Zaporozhe What about Ukraine?
Kirovograd-was founded in 1754 by the Russian Empress Elizabeth, as a fortress to protect the southern borders of the Russian Empire against Tatars. His name was Elizabethgrad. What about Ukraine?
@@HistoryHustle Kharkov-Russian city! It was founded in 1630. Tsar Ale Mikh I Mikhailovich built a fortress in 1656 in the Kharkov region. What about Ukraine?
Sumi-was founded by Tsar Alex The king allowed the refugees (who fled from Poles) to habitate them . What about Ukraine?
Poltava-was in the X During this traitor Hetman v attacc What about Ukraine?
DNEPROPETROVSK-founded by Catherine II in 1776 and was called Ekaterinoslav. What about Ukraine?
Lugansk-founded in 1795 founded by Catherine II in near Luhan River. What about Ukraine?
Kherson-founded by Empress Catherine II in 1778 for the construction of the Russian fleet. Construction was made by Potemkin. What about Ukraine?
Donetsk-founded by Emperor Alexander II in 1869 during the construction of a metallurgical plant in Y What about Ukraine?
Nikolaev-founded by Empress Catherine II in 1789. At this time there Potemkin built ship "St. Nicholas". And here in Ukraine?
ODESSA-founded by Catherine II in 1794 on the site of a fortress, built a little earlier Graf Suvorov. What about Ukraine?
Tschernihiv - one of the oldest Russian cities, existed in the early 10th century. In 1503 it was part of Russia. In 1611 it was destroyed by the Poles. But in 1654, Tschernihiv returned to Russia and since then has always been a part of Russia. The question is: where and Ukraine?
Simferopol-founded by Catherine II in 1784. It was built on the site of Potemkin and Suvorov military camp near the Tatar colony. What about Ukraine?
SEBASTOPOL-founded by Catherine II in 1783 on the site of a fortress built before Suvorov. Built the city of Potemkin. What about Ukraine?
Mariupol-founded in 1778 by Catherine II. The Greeks inhabited them-immigrants from the Crimea. What about Ukraine?
Krivo R Rog-founded by Catherine II in 1775. And development comme industrial center, such as base metals. What about Ukraine?
Zaporozhe What about Ukraine?
Kirovograd-was founded in 1754 by the Russian Empress Elizabeth, as a fortress to protect the southern borders of the Russian Empire against Tatars. His name was Elizabethgrad. What about Ukraine?
@@ljoe7038 Yes! I am russian good))
Great work Stefan ❤ Thank you Sir ✌️
Thank you, Jesse.
Thank you for your videos they are informative, easy to watch and beautifully done.
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Goedenavond Stefan. I had wanted to know more about this almost forgotten occupation, and you made this great video. Keep it up!
Also, you Inspired me to learn Dutch too. Unit 8 in Duolingo now. Great video by the way!
Great to read, many thanks!
Hello, I'm from Ukraine!
It was not German occupation back then. Austria-Hungary and German Empire were our Allies after Brest-Litovsk Treaty.
We needed their help against Bolsheviks, they needed our grain and other food stuff due to naval blockade.
But later when they came on our territory, yes, they start to behave like occupants.
And by the way. If we remember about German occupation of Ukraine in WW2 why we don't talk about Russian(Soviet) occupation of Ukraine in WW2? The part of Ukraine due to our defeat in Polish -Ukranian war of 1919 was occuppied by Poland.
And while Germans in the Semptember of 1939 went on Poland from the West Soviets were going there from the East occupying Ukranian and Belarusian lands that were previously occupied by Poland.
Why don't we speak about Soviet occupation of Western Ukraine in 1939-1941 and again since 1944?
Why don't we speak about Soviet occupation of 2/3 of Ukraine territories(territories of Ukraine People's Republic, Українська народна республіка, УНР) from 1920 to 1941 and all territories of Ukraine People's Republic from 1944 to 1991?
Why we talk only about Germans, Germans, Germans, a little bit of 'Austro-Hungarians' and then again Germans?
Understand, we(Ukraine) was not an empire wich competed with other empires for world dominance or regional dominance, we were and still are the nation which wants to have our own national state.
And what is called 'German occupation of 1918' in that video didn't gave us as much problems as regular invasions of Red and White Russians in the period from 1917 to 1920.
German occupation of Ukraine in WW2 lasts from 1941 to 1943 if we talk about the eastern regions and from 1941 to 1944 if we talk about the western ones. And it brought to us much less trouble then the Soviet occupation two decades before then and almost five decades after then.
And negative influence of Russian Empire and USSR on Ukraine was much bigger that of Kaiserreich, Third Reich, Austrian Empire and Austro-Hungary altogether.
Even if we compare Austrian Empire(later Austro-Hungary) to Russian Empire/
Life for Ukranians were much better in The Habsburg Empire than in Muscovy(no matter how it calls itsef).
Thank you if you read this all. But I will be a lot more greatful if you, Western Europeans, Canadians, Americans, New Zealenders and Australians will understand us(Ukranians) and other Eastern Europeans better.
I understand that for Western Europe and America with Canada Germany was seen as major enemy and Russia was seen like some distant, maybe exotic that could be used as an ally against Germany(but that not always a case. Remember Soviet-German Alliance in 1939-41 and peace proposals during the both World Wars between Russia and Germany).
But here in Ukraine and some other Eastern European countries Russia(no matter how it calls) was almost always an enemy, archenemy, existencial enemy.
With all best wishes.
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it was german ocupation you speaking nonsense.. biased
@@gomazinho90No he is speaking the truth and is not biased, you are biased.
I agree, this is true.
Good job bro
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Interesting object, Professor. Keep up the amazing work! Thank you.
Thanks, Nikki!
Ive never heard of German or Austrian-Hungarian soldiers joining with independent revolutionary/anarchist forces before and the idea is fascinating. Do you have any sources to recommend on this?
i don't have a proper source, but i can deduce that since most of the survivors of ukranian guerilla ambushes were rank and file conscripts and both empires had sizeable national minorities like poles, slovaks and ukranian themselves. it wasn't that far-fectched that some stayed with the guerillas instead of braving the journey back home alone.
@@ernstschmidt4725 , it also makes sense that conscripts from peasant families would see some appeal in Bolshevism. When you know you'll return home to nothing, the thought of "sharing" in the greater wealth might be irresistible. How could you know that in a decade or two, Uncle Joe would liquidate you and anyone else, kulak or not, for the greater Soviet good?
Great content as usual!
Thanks!
Watching this tonight. At work. Love this channel.
awesome, i like how you're dressed for the occasion! good video 🙂
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just thought, this has the '' great war '' channel vibe to it.. Might want to colab with Indi Nidel! yous would make a fantastic team 😄
Fascinating storytelling as always 👏👏👏
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That was a good basic video. As I have said before, this is a VERY complicated era, with so many things happening at the same time that it can make your head spin, like the ding dong at 6:35. I have to admit, that caught me off guard. Anyway, you take it easy. (P.S. I liked the outfit and helmet. All you needed was a stein full of beer and you'd be perfect. That might be a good set-up for a Freikorps video, actually.)
Fantastic video 📹 👏
Thanks!
Nice and concise piece of obscure history. The Great War channel touched on this topic but it's good to know a little more.
Yes, I remember the Great War talked about it here and there, so I was triggered to make this episode.
German Occupation of Ukraine during World War I was more like LIBERATION COMPERE TO WHAT Muscovites occupation - colonization did to Ukraine: Mass Terror, Holdomor, Moscow language schools , GULAG etc.
well i didn't know this happens during ww1 another piece of Ukraine history learned today thanks
3 episodes on the bounce all fantastic 👍🏻 great work Stefan 🙌🏻
Awesome. Many thanks.
Thanks for sharing...it was informative historical coverage...good luck and best wishes for history Hustle channel and yours
Many thanks again for your reply.
Ok, this are some new learnings for me. I always thought that the German occupation was relatively light on the Ukrainians. Especially if you read the letters from German soldiers from the second world war when they were greeted by Ukrainians with flowers, bread and salt when they "liberated" their villages. But it seems that soviet occupation and the Holodomor were so horrible that they even greeted those who pillaged them 25 years earlier.
five million inhabitants of Ukraine were killed in 1941-43 during German occupation. Of these, 1.5 million Jews. What the fuck is bread with flowers?
@@watchingvids9899 When the Wehrmacht initially went into Ukraine 1941. Learn how to read.
@@AVKnecht you don't understand me. Germans killed 5 million Ukrainian people during occupation WW2. They didn't give flowers. 1.5 million were Jews. Where are you from? I am Israeli my parents from Ukraine.
@@watchingvids9899 There are thousands of letters, pictures and what not from German soldiers when they INITIALLY went into Ukraine. I don't question that the Einsatzgruppen, the SS and even the Wehrmacht afterwards killed horribly many people, Jews, Gypsies, Ukrainians, Russians, and Tatars. But at the start of the Operation Barbarossa most Ukrainians welcomed the Germans as liberators.
@@AVKnecht ethnic Ukrainians welcomed them* which is different from just a resident of the Ukrainian Soviet socialist republic. There were more than 2 million Ukrainian Jews.
Interesting side note: The Ottoman Empire was also a signatory of the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, hence Turkish was one of the official languages for the documents. It can be seen at 02:34 in the video, in the 4th column. Turkish at the time was written in Arabic script.
True. Thanks for sharing.
Bulgary also.
Thanks for your content! Keep up the History Hustle!👍
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This is perhaps an interesting tidbit. My family are Jews from Belarus and experienced the German occupation in the First World War.
According to the few members of my family that survived the Holocaust, in the run-up to WWII many Jews in the area thought that Germans being vicious antisemites was Soviet propaganda. How could, in only 20 years, the Germans, whom in 1917-18 were quite kind to Jews and thought of as the height of civilization, become genocidal antisemites!? Many Jews may have died rather than escaped out of simple disbelief that the Germans of 1941 were really that much different from the Germans of 1918
I have heard of these tragic misunderstandings before. Thanks for sharing.
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Excellent post as ever, my main interest is in the Great War and I shall be over to the battlefields with a group visit in mid April this year.
Thats what they want you to think, the ukrainians havent, this probably contributed to their warm welcome in ww2.
what?
So you're trying to say that "they" don't want us to know about this occupation, therefore making it more obvious that a lot of Ukrainians supported the Nazis? I think the only "they" that would want us to be more aware of that is Putin and his government because it makes Ukraine look worse. Besides I really don't think this played much into what happened in the 40s. Most of the men that collaborated were a new generation that didn't experience this and the previous occupation doesn't seem to be too important to them compared to their hatred of Communism that likely killed at least one person close to them in the famine
@@luckyluckydog123 You might need a new pair of glasses debil :)))
@@EnSayne987 Geez this overthinking is toxic dude.
@@mojewjewjew4420 how would it help?
History Hustle is most accurate history Channel in west information area... thumbs up to you. Bravo..
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Good Short Take on History 🏆. Little Known to most people. I studied the subject in a few Russian History Courses in College!
Thanks for watching.
Great analysis!!
Thank you for covering all this under-taught history.
His Highness Hetman Skoropadsky got the country in ruins, the railway did not work, the factories stood up after their "nationalization", the trade of the time of the Empire with Britain/France and especially Italy is absent. The previous government signed completely unfavorable grain supply conditions with Germany and so on.
In 3 months, the trains were moving again, the peasants regained their land and opened at least some kind of market (German), they sold to the authorities at cost price in a mandatory manner, and the authorities exports for a slightly higher price. In the 7th month of his administration, the Minister of Finance reported that "next year the Treasury will be in surplus." Ukrainian schools and universities were opened, Cossack culture was revived. Regarding agreements with Germany, Skoropadsky was able to raise the price of sugar (half of the budget came from him) from 100 hryvnias per poud (16.4 kg) to 120 hryvnias. He blackmailed germans that he would not sell bread then. Germany also paid duty for goods crossing the border.
I want to emphasize that it was profitable for the peasants to sell to the state and then export to Germany, because there was simply no other place where all this could be done. But the land problem was present, approximately 60% of the peasants had less than 2 hectares of land (the other 40% had from 8 to 20 hectares), so they struggled with the socialists' promises of equal distribution. The land reform was planned for March 1919.
An army of 300,000 soldiers was planned for January 1919, but Germany lost earlier, having with him ~20,000 hetmans, he fought against the rebellion of the socialists, who in a week became ~40,000 soldiers. The same socialists then fought with the Bolsheviks (starts with ~30.000 soldiers) with an army of ~100,000, but which dispersed or went over to the Reds.
I mean consider what come next after german soldiers left Ukraine... it's wasn't really a bad outcome for ukrainians
Another excellent video !…It fascinates me, also, regarding the polemics and squabbles swirling amongst people like a Lenin, Trotsky. , Bukharin, etc. Receiving Brest Litovsk with cries of ‘ Peace ! ‘, ‘ War ! ‘, or, ‘ Neither peace nor war ! ‘. I wonder, too, if any proto-Nazi, proto-Freikorp types viewed the treaty as a welcome step toward ‘ lebenstraum ‘…..
Very interesting again. 👌
PS Polish occupation of southern Lithuania and Vilnius 1920 - 1939 might also be an interesting subject?
Perhaps in the future. Thanks for your reply.
Occupation?! If something it was occupied by Lithuanians in 1939! Everyone there was polish, everyone there wanted to be part of Poland! It was internationaly recognised as part of Poland! So how was it a occupation! If something it was liberation!
Thanks for your feedback. Perhaps History Hustle will look into this in a future video?
@@thisguy4895 Depends on point of view
@@maksjahnz1217 For the people that were living there, it was intergral part of Poland, and there wasn't any separatist movement by them. You know why? They were polish, and they wanted to stay as such, but lithuanian government didn't cared!
Realy like the topic relevent uniform (parts) you so often wear. Great vid again Stefan 👍
Greets oet Grun ', T.
A sharp uniform and a sharp presentation. Thank you for filling in that gap of our knowledge about Germany in Ukraine in 1918. It must have been one of the things that encouraged Hitler to try for a repeat.
Thanks for your reply Alan.
Germans joined the Revolution back in the Germany.
Hungarians also joined back in the Budapest.
Polish prevented the Soviets of joining the German social overturn.
hard to appreciate today just what it was in the collapse of the Russian Empire... from Finland to Ukraine it was chaotic and bewildering. Germany must have thought they were on the cusp of victory with the Russians throwing in the towel at Brest-Litovsk .. giving them everything they wanted!
Great video,. BZ
Brotfrieden Treaty
Original M16? Brow armor plate?
Thanks for illuminating this fascinating but almost unknown moment in history. The very very very few times I have heard this period referenced it was usually to say that the Germans of 1918 were 'nice' compared to the SS of 1941-44.
Nice. Talk about U.S. occupation of Germany, Italy, South Korea, Japan and the Baltic States
Perhaps one day.
Can't talk about NON EXISTENT shit
Or israel and Palestina.. or China and Tibet..
Good vid broski
Thanks.
Hi Stefan - I have some aluminum German occupation marks that they use in the Ukraine in 1918
Awesome!
@@HistoryHustle hey Stefan, you are probably a fan of Stefan Poppel also known as Bandera - the homosexulal ukrainian nazi and maniac
Thank you for popularisation pf Ukranian hustory but on 06.20 there is a picture of Russian peasants
Wow, you got me there. Wasnt able to find another one. How did you recognize?
@@HistoryHustle As Ukranian) There's a lot of picture comparison of Ukranian and Russian peasants on Internet of the times of late Russian Empire/early Soviet Union.
And there are also enough pictures of Ukranian peasents solely
@@Fighter-ff5xl thanks for sharing. Couldnt find one so quickly and honestly thought no one would notice. You caught me red handed 😁
@@HistoryHustle Ukranians don't like to be confused with Russians) No offense.
By the way do you want to make video about Soviet occupation of Western UKraine and Western Belarus 1939-41 and/or 1944 onwards?
Or maybe about Soviet invasion on Poland in 1939?
ruclips.net/video/ER1AYnOFTEg/видео.html
Nestor Makhno is one of my favourite historical figures, and a personal hero of mine!!
Hope you like my video about him.
@@HistoryHustle I don't like your video's, I LOVE them, Stephan!!
Keep up the good work, your enthusiasm is infectious!! Cheers, from Australia!! 🍺 👍
Because you like anarchism like all the "trendy" kids today?
He unfortunately made the wrong decision allying with the bolsheviks who later betrayed him
@@informedtraveler3014 How the hell is "alliying with the Bolsheviks" EVER the "wrong decision?" LOL
This is when everything start to end
Please explain.
in 1918 the Austro-Hungarian army was in Mariupol ... yes, that Mariupol.
Yes indeed.
Keep up with the ukraine content!
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Actually, that's not so dangerous to visit ukraine right now, especially in western cities.
I understand.
Ukrainian official government asked german allies to help fighting against red russia, so it was Not the occupation! They were allies!
See video.
"Mighty Fine".. "WW2".. " History Lesson"!!!!
Excellant coverage Dutch History man unfoetunatly the modern Universities dont seem to teach this stuff ? the marxist woke young people would benifit to studying this crucial period in 20th Cenrtury develooment I find it fascinating cheers from Scotland
Could you make a video about the non-German soldiers that fought for the wehrmacht? I heard that as many as 1 million foreigners fought in the German Army in WW2.
Then I have good news for you. Much I have covered in seperate videos. Here is the playlist. Enjoy:
ruclips.net/p/PL_bcNuRxKtpEj8sMLxUerrHbsmyar9lqt
For balance it’s important to note that hundreds of thousands of Europeans and Germans fought alongside the Red Army in WW2.
The Czechoslovakian Legion who liberated Kiev with the Red Army, Berling’s 200,000 strong Polish Pro Communist Army, the Belarusian and Jewish Partizans, the Bulgarian army that was involved in the capture of Vienna, the Yugoslav Partizan army, the Greek Partizans and the Romanian’s who fought with the Red Army in Hungary.
Even the Finns changed sides in 1944.
See also below
‘Quite a number of Soviet Germans ended up in partisan detachments and resistance groups. Their knowledge of the German language made them invaluable and they were frequently used in sabotage and reconnaissance operations. One of the most effective partisan commanders of the entire war was Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander German, who was killed in 1943. His brigade succeeded in wiping out 17 German garrisons and 70 rural district administrations, blowing up 31 rail bridges and killing up to 10,000 enemy soldiers’
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where did you get 50 k German or Austrian-Hungarian soldiers joining Moscow "red army " ?
First source I listed below.
@ 2' 45" = What a strange and unhappy map. What were the Germs thinking ? That there would be no war in their Ostsiedlung Lebensraum ? Their settlements would have been for fairy stories like that of the Ost Viking fairies.
What were they intending ? How they behaved in West Poland and West Bohemia. Surround an area and then suffocate the center. Then call it GroBdeutschland.
The Polish were having non of that. Did their rebellions save Slavia from genocide ?
No wonder modern Ukraine wants the security of being within NATO. Ironically, that understandable desire has brought grief to Ukraine once again. PS: you do great work.
all of this has happened before and it will all happen again
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Our poor Ukrainian brothers. I feel bad for what they have endured for the last several centuries. And here they are again being invaded by putin
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Ukraine regime should have adhered to the Minsk agreements guaranteed by Germany and France that they (all) reneged on.
Similar to the breaking of the Munich agreements in 1938.
@@rjames3981 Bro excuses nazis
And why was is an occupation?
Without Germany Ukraine would not have gotten Independent and after they were gone the soviets occuped Ukraine
🤦.. you ignore the long history of bukowina to profligate an anti german ..pro Russian naritive of late events in that area. The entire full history reflects differently.
He is ignoring alot of facts.
You’re right, Galicia has a long history of being under the Habsburg monarchy rule
@informedtraveler you're very right. My own familly is very german and always has been despite having lived in Galicia for 400yrs. My great grandfather fought the Russians at czernowitz when the orc horde invaded then. This whole idea that the area was conquered later by Germans negates the reality that previously it was german
@@Tusk926 That’s some cool history you have with your family. My family is Ukrainian and I’ve done some reading about how they had the most freedom under the Austrians than under the Poles and Russians. Makes sense why the Western Ukrainians fought for them in both world wars.
As a Ukrainian I will say that Germans and Austrians were our allies, not occupiers.
I understand.
At the outbreak of the First World War, Galicia was a province of Austria. It include part of what is now the western part of the Ukraine. The capital was at Lemberg, now known as Lviv. The population was Polish and Ruthenian, with many other ethnic groups. German, of course, was the official language but only about 1% of the population spoke German. At the outbreak of the War, Galicia was, therefore, automatically on the side of the Central Powers. It was not under German command until very late in the War, when the Germans discovered that Kaiser Karl had been negotiating secretly with the French seeking ways of bringing the War to an end. The Austrian forces were then brought under direct German command.
Thanks for sharing your insights.
The surname Skoropadskyj direct translates on english like "Quick faller", so his short rule proves his surnames
Really? That is interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Germany made Ukraine 🤯
Not really.
Ukraine priests who went serving to Peter-1, advised him to give the moskovia a new name- russia in 1701. So Ukraine has made the russia in reality. Go watch the old russian coins before 1715 and you'll see no russia name there haha
Meanwhile I consider getting my 10 cats fed and settled in for the evening a major accomplishment and the closest thing to world domination to which I aspire.
The German Empire occupation n'est pas?
Ukraine is not random.. 🕵
Hahaha dude you look like you're ready to storm Osowiec!
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@@HistoryHustle You look like a World War 1 German storm trooper. Osowiec was a fortress on the Easternfront.
hooray. well, at least someone will tell Ukrainians the history of Ukraine) no offense)
War only brings sufferation.. and history keeps repeating itself untill we choose not to... agenda 2030.. is the same but worse.. xxx one love
Sounds like conspiracy. But I agree on your take on war.
@@HistoryHustle tell me wat war was without an conspiracy or was not a conspiracy?... stop believing mainstream news...or dictated history.. the winners Write..the dictated.history and new propaganda...cause history repeats its self... do ur research... if i am only 1% Wright.. shit is very wrong....xxxx one love
This isn't the truth
German Empire helping Ukraine to win in 1918
What is not true that I said?
@@HistoryHustle, Because Russian Empire collapsed in 1917 and Ukraine returned her own Independence. Russian Revolution invades Ukraine in 1917. Read the History
Returned to independence? There had never existed an independent Ukraine before. Read history.
@@HistoryHustle It's you doesn't know this. Russia Empire collapsed after German Empire defeat it and Ukraine returned her Independence, but Russia doesn't wanted to lose Ukraine and started a war against our country Ukraine
@@HistoryHustle Germany like America is never occupied Ukraine
They didnt invade but were invited to help with bolshevicks,
Who is they?
@@HistoryHustle Germans, they were invited to help with Russians
Invited by who?
@@HistoryHustle Sorry for not being specific, Germany recognised Ukraine and was invited to help by the Rada.
Ukraine was spared by poland and germany...
ukraine did not even exist until 1919 when the USSR created it from Russian,Polish and Hungarian territory.They gave the far west Russian territory of Donbas to create east ukraine.
It sounds very Ukrainephobic. Putin uses similar rhetoric to justify discrimination against ethnic Ukrainians and aggression towards Ukraine.
You should google the documents of 12 century and pictures of the maps from 17 century with the name Ukraine.
Good job bro
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Good job bro