Hello young lady, I just wanted to come back and leave a comment here that your process of assembling this was brilliant. I followed your steps precisely with less than $10 worth of materials from my local Hobby Lobby.
I wanted to add another thing that I discovered if you already haven't yourself. I found that my papers surface is often too bright to see the ghost image when tracing, so I tried putting a piece of tinted glass underneath between the box and the paper and it creates a much better contrast between the image and the bright overly lit paper surface.
This is really cool (and your instructions were great), and the fact that you were able to capture an image of what the actual camera lucida image looks like was super helpful. It is actually better than I was thinking it would be. Thanks for making this video.
There is a very good documentary titled “Tim’s Vermeer” (on RUclips) that gives a quite different use for an antique camera lucida. Tim (not an artist) painted Vermeer’s “Music Lesson” using this camera lucida & in a storeroom with natural light, he setup a facsimile of the paintings scene. In the latter part of the film, I believe he added a 3” concave mirror with a focal length of 300mm. He needed more light & it seems the concave mirror gave him a better looking image. Check it out bc at the end, Tim’s “Vermeer Music Lesson” is compared to an image of the real “Music Lesson” & see what you think?
To complete: in your model the transparent glass is, as we know, 10 cm high, but then the horizontal dimension of the glass (the diagonal) will be 14,142 cm. This info is useful to have the glass precut at 10 x 14,142 cm Interestingly, if the glass were 1 cm tall instead of 10, then the width of the glass would be 1,4142 cm, which is the square root of 2. By the way, A4 paper is dimensioned at 1 wide by 1,4142 high.
AMAZING VIDEO !!!!! thank you so much for this . I have school project at school and i didn't know how to build the camera but after ur video , its much easier to make just would like to know the measurements for the glass, black card and mirror .
Thank you! This is quite an old video now, but I think the black card/mirror was 12x12 cm, and the glass was 12x17 cm. You can make it any size, but the important perameters are that the mirror and card is square, and the length of the glass will always be a rectangle that is the diagonal length across the card pieces. Hope that helps! xx
Very nice! You said some of it is a bit blurry. I wonder if you could use an adjustable lens to either expand the depth of field or at least be able to move the narrow depth of field back and forth.
Thank you for connecting it to Peppers Ghost. I know the truck from Disneyland's Haunted Mansion where they use it during the ballroom section that has dancing ghosts. When I saw this I thought it might be the same concept, but was not sure. Now I know! Thank you.
What a great demonstration! Halfway through your presentation I was already convinced to subscribe to your channel. Your skill and curiosity are evident. Will you be able to share your dimensions in imperial increments (inches)? I am thinking the mirror is 4" square and the glass might be 6"x4". Am I close at all? Thank you for sharing your interpretation of this fascinating technology.
Thank you! in metric, I think the squares were 12x12cm, and the glass 12x17cm. So in imperial that would be about 4 3/4 inch square, and 4 3/4 x 6 3/4 inches for the glass. Hope that helps!
Maths - the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides, so 10cm * 10cm = 100cm (same for both of the two sides ) so the sum of the square of the other two side is 200cm, the square root of 200 is 14.14cm so that's the length of the piece of glass. in inches its a generous five and a half inches if you use 4 inch squares
thank you for your quick reply,, enjoy this video and viewed it 3 times just to make sure of it...getting parts the to make the lucida very best to you always. later i will get back to you thanks again...Joe australia
i haven't seen one in person but from what i've seen on tv and YT im guessing u still have to b talented enough to finish the picture by eye. ..that u properly just get an outline ....if that's the case I'd say its more of an aid to get perspective correct.....then again the old masters managed to get an insane amount of detail from theses things BUT i think they made them as big as a room....if i remember correctly. has anyone here used the commercially made ones and can tell us how well they work???
Nice instructions. For future reference adding music in the background is maddening for us hearing impaired. I seriously wanted to scream while I struggled to pay attention to your voice. Halfway through I had to turn the volume off and rely on CC.
This is the best building instruction Ive seen and I can buy the materials at Dollar Tree for under $10. I think I will add a little stand/with arm/ so that I will not have to hold it while drawing and I will also have a much stable device.
Question! Why do you have the white part of the side with the hole in it facing into the box? Don't you want every inside wall of the box to be black/non-reflective? I am building my camera lucida based on you video now you see :) Thank you for the great tutorial.
Thank you!! It’s us creators bringing you the good stuff, remember the cyclist, not the bicycle! 🤣. The doggo is a rescue, so we don’t know what he is, but we think he’s Shiba Inu crossed with Collie.
Excellent tutorial, thank you for sharing your insight. Red herring, would the style of glass make a difference i.e. concave / concurve glass and or with a fresnel lenses?
This is wonderful! I wonder if this would work if this camera lucidia was placed on some kind of transparent surface to suspend it higher without having to hold it (like a mini acrylic/glass table or something). Even if not, I love this and how easy and affordable it is! I understand and respect why the fancier ones can be expensive, I just don't have the money for one. I like to make my sketches on a digital drawing tablet and transfer them onto surfaces thay are too thick to use a light tale on like illustration boards or canvas panels. Graphite paper is too messy for me and Idon't like that it isn't always erasable. I don't mind that it may not be a perfect transfer either--as long as I can get an approximation and erase mistakes, then I don't mind.
Thanks for this. I just discovered Camera Lucida and then when I went looking for one they're like $60, which is far too expensive for what little it is.
I bought one and yes it wasn't cheap and then I had to pay import duty on top. But to be positive it is a beautifully made piece of equipment made from good quality materials. An easier or cheaper way forward, if you have a tablet, would be to get a Camera Lucida app, I haven't tried that yet but I plan to.
@@philiptownsend4026 Would you mind sharing where & what brand you purchased? I'd be interested in the item only because you said it's a well made piece. Thank you in advance for your kind reply.
What fun! I’d like to know dimensions of the viewing hole. How could this be safe as an art class project. I think there are plastic mirrors, but glass could be risky. Is there an alternative?
Before I have a go at this, how well does it work at super-long distances? I live in a top floor flat and the view from it is what inspired me to take up art again. On a clear day, I have a viewing range of about 30 miles with a 270 degree angle across all windows. Although my main aim for an artwork would be the 5 miles or so within the town, from just one window. While the tall buildings are distinct and obvious above low-rise houses, they are pretty small on the panarama and would probably get lost in a horizontal wide view.
The one i made seemed to have a very specific focus point, but you could evperiment with changing the perameters for a focus further away - size, angle of the mirror, etc - let me know how it goes!
Very good tutorial. Very well performed!... i have seen other vídeos about the same subject and i have two doubts: 1. The view hole size difers and your is very small!... 2. The angle between the mirror and glass in your case is about 45 degrees, but other vídeos made with angles of about 30 degrees!... Can you and some advice to me, Congratulations for your vídeo: very artístic and professional!...
Thank you for your comment! I think it depends on what you want to see - the hole is big enough for me, but you might need it bigger, and that's ok. You need to block as much light as possible from inside the box though for a clearer view of. your subject. I'm not sure about the glass at 30 degrees, I've never done it that way. I think it might distort what you see, but do some experiments and let me know what you find out!
This looks fun, Artymous. As I'm the proverbial 'pore ole pensioner' could I make it without spending out for a glue gun. I'd have to spread glue some way obviously.
@@ellenfiedler6922 Ellen I had typed a thank you a few hours ago but for some reason RUclips seems to have kicked my comment into cyberspace. I hope this comment doesn't get the order of the boot.
Fascinating! Love your dog, I could see that he? Was saying Gimme fruit? But didn't think he really wanted fruit! Very adorable dog! Does this work on white paper at all? Though I suppose there aren't many white backgrounds around..
@@artymous6140 I saw a camera lucida video in my recommendations, as I watched it I got curious about how it works. now I understand and know how to make one thank you!
@@artymous6140 I may make a Camera Lucida for the painting I am planning. Unfortunately it's going to be delayed until I can get my head around what happened today. 😣
i haven't seen one in person but from what i've seen on tv and YT im guessing u still have to b talented enough to finish the picture by eye. ..that u properly just get an outline ....if that's the case I'd say its more of an aid to get perspective correct.....then again the old masters managed to get an insane amount of detail from theses things BUT i think they made them as big as a room....if i remember correctly. As anyone here used the commercially made ones and can tell us how well they work???
Hello young lady, I just wanted to come back and leave a comment here that your process of assembling this was brilliant. I followed your steps precisely with less than $10 worth of materials from my local Hobby Lobby.
Fantastic! I'm so glad it worked for you x
I wanted to add another thing that I discovered if you already haven't yourself. I found that my papers surface is often too bright to see the ghost image when tracing, so I tried putting a piece of tinted glass underneath between the box and the paper and it creates a much better contrast between the image and the bright overly lit paper surface.
that's interesting, I just changed the colour of the paper, but your way allows for staying with white - good tip! thanks!
This is the best set of instructions I have found. Perfectly brilliant!
Wow, thank you!
Awesome video. Thank you for sharing.❤ Why was I not taught this in grade 4 arts and crafts? This is an excellent way to get kids interested in art.
It's an extremely old method, I love it - I hope you have a go!
This is really cool (and your instructions were great), and the fact that you were able to capture an image of what the actual camera lucida image looks like was super helpful. It is actually better than I was thinking it would be. Thanks for making this video.
Glad you liked it! Thank you!
There is a very good documentary titled “Tim’s Vermeer” (on RUclips) that gives a quite different use for an antique camera lucida. Tim (not an artist) painted Vermeer’s “Music Lesson” using this camera lucida & in a storeroom with natural light, he setup a facsimile of the paintings scene. In the latter part of the film, I believe he added a 3” concave mirror with a focal length of 300mm. He needed more light & it seems the concave mirror gave him a better looking image. Check it out bc at the end, Tim’s “Vermeer Music Lesson” is compared to an image of the real “Music Lesson” & see what you think?
This can be such a time saver for getting the initial sketch down quickly! I'm making one today. Great instructions.
To complete: in your model the transparent glass is, as we know, 10 cm high, but then the horizontal dimension of the glass (the diagonal) will be 14,142 cm. This info is useful to have the glass precut at 10 x 14,142 cm
Interestingly, if the glass were 1 cm tall instead of 10, then the width of the glass would be 1,4142 cm, which is the square root of 2. By the way, A4 paper is dimensioned at 1 wide by 1,4142 high.
That's very interesting, thank you!
And 1/1,414 = sin45
Or you could get a piece of glass and measure/cut the cardboard to fit the size of the glass. Much easier than the other way round!
Your math is amazing. Now what do I do with that? 😅
Clever girl, your video is very informative and a delight to watch xxx
thank you, glad you enjoyed the film!
AMAZING VIDEO !!!!! thank you so much for this . I have school project at school and i didn't know how to build the camera but after ur video , its much easier to make just would like to know the measurements for the glass, black card and mirror .
Thank you! This is quite an old video now, but I think the black card/mirror was 12x12 cm, and the glass was 12x17 cm. You can make it any size, but the important perameters are that the mirror and card is square, and the length of the glass will always be a rectangle that is the diagonal length across the card pieces. Hope that helps! xx
Very nice! You said some of it is a bit blurry. I wonder if you could use an adjustable lens to either expand the depth of field or at least be able to move the narrow depth of field back and forth.
Excellent!
Exactly what I was looking for!
Glad I found your channel. Thanks!
You’re very welcome!
Her construction and demonstration is done well!
Thank you, I hope it works for you!
Thank you for connecting it to Peppers Ghost. I know the truck from Disneyland's Haunted Mansion where they use it during the ballroom section that has dancing ghosts. When I saw this I thought it might be the same concept, but was not sure. Now I know! Thank you.
You're welcome - it's such a simple idea when you look into it, but so effective - the people who first saw it must have been blown away!
Great description. Thanks for the demonstration.
Glad it was helpful!
What a great demonstration! Halfway through your presentation I was already convinced to subscribe to your channel. Your skill and curiosity are evident. Will you be able to share your dimensions in imperial increments (inches)? I am thinking the mirror is 4" square and the glass might be 6"x4". Am I close at all? Thank you for sharing your interpretation of this fascinating technology.
Thank you! in metric, I think the squares were 12x12cm, and the glass 12x17cm. So in imperial that would be about 4 3/4 inch square, and 4 3/4 x 6 3/4 inches for the glass. Hope that helps!
Maths - the square of the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two sides, so 10cm * 10cm = 100cm (same for both of the two sides ) so the sum of the square of the other two side is 200cm, the square root of 200 is 14.14cm so that's the length of the piece of glass. in inches its a generous five and a half inches if you use 4 inch squares
Very lucid demo on making a camera lucida. There are also apps that do this now but your demo was entertaining. All the best to your wee doggie.
Thank you! I've tried an app, but I wanted to see how effective a real one was! Thank you for watching :)
thank you for your quick reply,, enjoy this video and viewed it 3 times just to make sure of it...getting parts the to make the lucida very best to you
always. later i will get back to you thanks again...Joe australia
Cute doggie! Great aid!
Very glad I could help! And Sprockett says thank you 😁
i haven't seen one in person but from what i've seen on tv and YT im guessing u still have to b talented enough to finish the picture by eye. ..that u properly just get an outline ....if that's the case I'd say its more of an aid to get perspective correct.....then again the old masters managed to get an insane amount of detail from theses things BUT i think they made them as big as a room....if i remember correctly. has anyone here used the commercially made ones and can tell us how well they work???
The commercial ones can be quite expensive, much easier to make your own!
Nice instructions. For future reference adding music in the background is maddening for us hearing impaired. I seriously wanted to scream while I struggled to pay attention to your voice. Halfway through I had to turn the volume off and rely on CC.
You are awesome!
Thank you.
Aww, thanks!
The little dog is adorable ! Cool video thanks ! Going to try it .
Excellent! let us know how it goes!
This is the best building instruction Ive seen and I can buy the materials at Dollar Tree for under $10. I think I will add a little stand/with arm/ so that I will not have to hold it while drawing and I will also have a much stable device.
that's a really good idea!
Super! I was just pricing those. This one can fit in my budget.👍
excellent! Glad to help :)
@@artymous6140
They way you keep loosing your pencil endears me to you.
I do that all the time. Now, I don’t feel so bad. 🕊🌹🕊 🥴👍Thanks.
Question! Why do you have the white part of the side with the hole in it facing into the box? Don't you want every inside wall of the box to be black/non-reflective? I am building my camera lucida based on you video now you see :) Thank you for the great tutorial.
I understood the way to doing it. Thanks. What I need, it is just enough to draw the essential.
Yes, it gives you an outline- the bones of a drawing- but enough to make a start!
Loved it clever girl so simple to make
glad you enjoyed it!
It's content like this that makes me come back to RUclips and reminds me of when it was a great platform.
What kind of dog is that it looks so cute?
Thank you!! It’s us creators bringing you the good stuff, remember the cyclist, not the bicycle! 🤣. The doggo is a rescue, so we don’t know what he is, but we think he’s Shiba Inu crossed with Collie.
Excellent tutorial, thank you for sharing your insight. Red herring, would the style of glass make a difference i.e. concave / concurve glass and or with a fresnel lenses?
I honestly don’t know how the drawing would change with different lenses but I need to know now! I’m off to do an experiment…
This is wonderful!
I wonder if this would work if this camera lucidia was placed on some kind of transparent surface to suspend it higher without having to hold it (like a mini acrylic/glass table or something). Even if not, I love this and how easy and affordable it is! I understand and respect why the fancier ones can be expensive, I just don't have the money for one.
I like to make my sketches on a digital drawing tablet and transfer them onto surfaces thay are too thick to use a light tale on like illustration boards or canvas panels. Graphite paper is too messy for me and Idon't like that it isn't always erasable. I don't mind that it may not be a perfect transfer either--as long as I can get an approximation and erase mistakes, then I don't mind.
I'm not sure, but give it a try - let me know the results!
Thanks for this. I just discovered Camera Lucida and then when I went looking for one they're like $60, which is far too expensive for what little it is.
Much easier to make one! Go for it and let me know if you need help!
I bought one and yes it wasn't cheap and then I had to pay import duty on top. But to be positive it is a beautifully made piece of equipment made from good quality materials.
An easier or cheaper way forward, if you have a tablet, would be to get a Camera Lucida app, I haven't tried that yet but I plan to.
@@philiptownsend4026
Would you mind sharing where & what brand you purchased? I'd be interested in the item only because you said it's a well made piece. Thank you in advance for your kind reply.
I love your box!
What fun! I’d like to know dimensions of the viewing hole. How could this be safe as an art class project. I think there are plastic mirrors, but glass could be risky. Is there an alternative?
Yes you can use polycarbonate I believe that's what the Lucy drawing tool is made of
yes, I think you can use perspex as an alternative - and the viewing hole needs to be as small as possible!
Before I have a go at this, how well does it work at super-long distances? I live in a top floor flat and the view from it is what inspired me to take up art again. On a clear day, I have a viewing range of about 30 miles with a 270 degree angle across all windows. Although my main aim for an artwork would be the 5 miles or so within the town, from just one window. While the tall buildings are distinct and obvious above low-rise houses, they are pretty small on the panarama and would probably get lost in a horizontal wide view.
The one i made seemed to have a very specific focus point, but you could evperiment with changing the perameters for a focus further away - size, angle of the mirror, etc - let me know how it goes!
Very cool video and so nicely done!
Thank you so much! 😊
I learned something today, thanks!
Optics are fascinating and groovy.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very good tutorial. Very well performed!... i have seen other vídeos about the same subject and i have two doubts:
1. The view hole size difers and your is very small!...
2. The angle between the mirror and glass in your case is about 45 degrees, but other vídeos made with angles of about 30 degrees!...
Can you and some advice to me,
Congratulations for your vídeo: very artístic and professional!...
Thank you for your comment! I think it depends on what you want to see - the hole is big enough for me, but you might need it bigger, and that's ok. You need to block as much light as possible from inside the box though for a clearer view of. your subject. I'm not sure about the glass at 30 degrees, I've never done it that way. I think it might distort what you see, but do some experiments and let me know what you find out!
Muy buena información y gracias por mostrar cómo construir está herramienta
¡de nada!
Thanks for the info, it's really helpful and is a good project to do related to art 😊👍.
you are very welcome!
You are a very sweet person thanks for the amazing tutorial
You are very welcome, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
This looks fun, Artymous. As I'm the proverbial 'pore ole pensioner' could I make it without spending out for a glue gun. I'd have to spread glue some way obviously.
Maybe a tube of vinyl glue? Longer to dry so you would need books arranged to keep pieces vertical and not touching the glue.
@@ellenfiedler6922 Thanks for the suggestion Ellen.
@@ellenfiedler6922 Ellen I had typed a thank you a few hours ago but for some reason RUclips seems to have kicked my comment into cyberspace. I hope this comment doesn't get the order of the boot.
RUclips keeps hiding my comments appreciating Ellen's suggestion.
This is a really cool video. Thank you. ❤
Thank you so much for watching!
You’re adorable. Great job.
Glad you enjoyed the film!
Outstanding video!! You just got another subscriber!
Brilliant! thank you, it all helps the little youtubers like me xx
Can you achieve this with an old-fashioned overhead projector?
Ooh, I don’t know! The principle is the same so it could work- try it and let me know!
Great tutorial. Thanks so much!
You are very welcome - thank you for watching!
This is so good!
Thank you!
Great video! PS Your dog is adorable.
Thank you! He is a loveable goon!
This is amazing thank you so much 🤗
You’re welcome 😊
"I am such a jelly brain". That made me laugh. We all are. Rolande barthes mythologies discusses that in another context.
Jelly brain is my go to phrase - I use it disturbingly often... maybe that says something about me!
Fascinating! Love your dog, I could see that he? Was saying Gimme fruit? But didn't think he really wanted fruit!
Very adorable dog! Does this work on white paper at all? Though I suppose there aren't many white backgrounds around..
He loves apples, I always give him the apple core! This technique works better on coloured paper, I'm not sure why!
I always learn something from you. Thank you.
You are very welcome, darlin 🙂
you are very welcome! I hope you're having a good week.
@@artymous6140 I saw a camera lucida video in my recommendations, as I watched it I got curious about how it works. now I understand and know how to make one thank you!
You are very welcome!
Un abrazo desde Colombia. Me gusto mucho el video.
You are welcome, I'm happy to have helped!
excellent.
Many many thanks!
gracias saludos desde Colombia
you're welcome!
Thank you, very informative
Glad it was helpful!
9:12 Cute Dog... Is your dog a Corgy? Nice job on the Camera Lucida... Now time to build a stand for it!
He's a collie/corgy mix, and he's always hungry...
@@artymous6140
He is very cute 😁
Thank you!
You are very welcome!
Thank you very much.
You are very welcome, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Artymouse, you are lucky I don`t live anywhere near you (I`m certain-wrong accent) `cos I could steal your wee dug!
Haha! He is one of a kind- a Shiba Inu and collie cross (we think…)
cool
Awesome 😆😆😆
Thank you!
Thank you.
You are very welcome!
this is a good one some how i missed the size of it, looks like 4 ins 100mm any one know the size,,very well done, the best, joe from australia
Yes, it's 100mm square! I went back to measure it and make sure for you! Glad you enjoyed the episode :)
wow thank you
You are very welcome!
It seams that the Dutch painter Vermeer used this technique to make his famous paintings like 'the girl with the pearl earring'.
Actually, he used a Camera Obscura.www.girl-with-a-pearl-earring.info/camera_obscura.htm
Yes, lots of artists used these tools, there was huge debate at the time as to whether it was cheating!
@@artymous6140 I don't see it as cheating, just as a different perspective...maybe!?
@@annacatherinesendgikoski1965 you can sometimes tell when a camera obscure has been used - it creates a little fish-eye distortion...
@@artymous6140 I may make a Camera Lucida for the painting I am planning. Unfortunately it's going to be delayed until I can get my head around what happened today. 😣
Would it need to be fixed when drawing the image or was it ok handheld?
Hi! It was fine hand held, but if you wanted to move away/come back to your drawing, I would mount it, yes.
Simpatica
Gracias!
Oh and hi Doggy of the Artist
**woof woof!**
Is it cheating if one uses the Camera Lucida app on ones phone? Asking for a friend! 😁
i haven't seen one in person but from what i've seen on tv and YT im guessing u still have to b talented enough to finish the picture by eye. ..that u properly just get an outline ....if that's the case I'd say its more of an aid to get perspective correct.....then again the old masters managed to get an insane amount of detail from theses things BUT i think they made them as big as a room....if i remember correctly. As anyone here used the commercially made ones and can tell us how well they work???
@@redinabloogs8477 Some of the commercially made ones are good. The main thing you want is good lenses. Those are expensive to obtain.
Lo he comprado, y nó me aclaro..se vé muy pequeño..lástima mis 125€
Is is junk don’t waste your money I bought it sometime ago and I didn’t have a heart to send it back.
I’m not selling them? The video shows you how to make your own at home? Not sure what you mean…
Not very informative.
Let us see the construction steps instead of your face, please.
I’m sorry you were disappointed, I will take this on board.
Wrong! Very helpful informative FREE info.
I find the narrative to be almost completely unintelligible.
Why? I found it entirely intelligible.
@@uberultrametamega946 I think the Doc only speaks Klingon.
Nice.....thank you, my Good Woman!
You are very welcome!
thank you!
You're welcome!