Thanks for that video! The predicament of the artificer is, that it gets good stuff every level, which makes it hard to multiclass out of! Maybe easier to multiclass dip into, it all depends of course on how long your campaign lasts and what level you start. But, I can tell you, as much my arti wants wizard levels, I'll miss out out on good stuff all the way from lv 1 to 12, not to mention the SD's hit points...
I understand that predicament. I think Artificer is great for multiclass dips, but I tend to want to stick with it if I play an Artificer as my core character class/concept.
I think you missed out on Infiltrator Armor with Rogue. Adv. on Stealth, Booming Blade, Shield Prof. a few infusions. Yes a 3 level "dip" is steep. But it offers a lot. Also the Lightning Gun works with Sneak Attack and Dex.
Samurai/armorer, his set of armor is a family heirloom, and he intends to make it mythical. Also Sammy's wear a mask (menpo) that is perfect for magical tinkering or to hold infusions.
Ooo I like this take on an Armorer with relics that hold spirits, curses, etc. to pair with the Samurai. I find that I enjoy re-flavoring the Artificer, and yours is a great idea.
A fun idea for Amy kind of Artificer is to pair it with 3 levels of Wild Magic Barbarian. Naratively you're essentially an arcanic battery and when you "rage" that power goes out of control. I'm inclined to say this works best with Armorer using the Gaurdian model to become a hell of a tank or, as a small race, battle smith to be a mounted terror.
I played a one-shot as a 4th lvl Armorer (light armor) 16th lvl Arcane Trickster. Rounding out spells was nice. However, my attack focus was the lighting launcher, a ranged weapon electrical attack. With sneak attack damage and sharpshooter, it was a lot of fun.
One build I enjoyed making and playing was an Armorer 5 / Thief Rogue 15, using the Infiltrator armor model with a studded leather armor. The race I think works best is Elf: mark of shadow You gain permanent advantage on stealth checks and a bonus to movement speed, in addition to a lot of utility and the basic thief shenanigans For feats, I got Sharpshooter, Elven's accuracy (DEX), Fighting Initiate (Archery) and Tavern Brawler (CON) The DPR is also very good because of lightning launcher and extra attack
I’m playing a rock gnome artillerist artificer with a level in forge cleric for heavy armor, a bonus to my ac from blessing of the forge, more utility spells and for the flavor. Being able to wear heavy armor and be up front with the flamethrower or protector turret is amazing!
I am enjoying my wizard/Artificer multiclass(Level 6 wizard/Level 3 artificer) so far as it is a nuanced approach with how the classes work, especially with the start as artificer with the con saving throws. Originally was going to go Battlesmith due to being a bladesinger but went Alchemist to help with some utility, spicing things up character wise and having access to the Healing Word spell as subclass spell in case my party's cleric/fighter goes down. Outside of bladesong, I don't have many spells to use as Bonus action and Healing word is good to have.
@@FlutesLoot I do too intelligence based and doesn't hurt too much for spell progression to pick up spells wizards don't have for utility or support.. Especially with a DM that listens to creative ideas for infusions when it comes to replicating magic items (Like turning my mundane Backpack into a bag of holding after explaining it).
@@parheliaa Both classes are Intelligence based casters and there are some spells that Artificers have that Wizards don't have access to naturally. Also some of the infusions like Mind Sharpener and enhanced defense can help. Also if a Bladesinger/Artificer starts in Artificer, they get proficiency in CON SAVES, which also can help in keeping concentration on that important spell that needs to be kept active.
Currently playing a rogue artificer with a focus on armorer and eventually phantom.. he talks to the dead and all his magic items and spells are some form of the spirits helping him out and he uses the lightning thrower for sneak attack
3 Battlesmith/X Eldritch Knight. Dump str and go Int like Hexblades do Cha. 3 Armorer/X Wizard. Dr. Doom anyone? As to your idea of a necromancer; reflavor the armor with bone. You're now a Palemaster.
I would start as Artificer to get the prof. in CON. Going to at least 3rd lvl. will get you a choice of 4 subclasses (my fav is Alchemist! Yeah, I said it!) and even though you're a half-caster you round up instead of down so as a 3rd lvl. caster you count as a 2nd lvl. caster... then multiclass into a wizard of choice and take it to 6th level to get the first two subclass features and a number of spellslots. (You'll be the equivalent of an 8th lvl. caster at your overall lvl. of 9th.) Then go back into Artificer for 4 more lvls. to get Flash of Genius, now your overall lvl. is 16, and since you don't have enough lvls. left to get the 14th lvl. wizard feature you might as well continue the last four lvls. in Artificer for a multiclass split of 11th lvl. Artificer/9th lvl. Wizard. 11 lvls. in Artificer gains you the 10th lvl. Magic Adept feature, attune to 4 magic items and craft common and uncommon magic items and the 11th lvl. feature Spell-Storing Item, store a spell and use it a number of times = 2xINT bonus. PS: You end up with a mix of 5 really good features compared to the wizards 4 and the artificers 4.
personally i like artificer as a level 1-2 dip (just to pick up a couple of infusions or just cantrips and armor/con save prof) or as a main class that doesn't multiclass out until level 12. artificers remind me of bards in this regard having a very powerful high level ability you want to beeline for in spell storing item. I'll share some multiclassing solutions/synergies for each subclass: 1. alchemist- it's biggest flaw is that elixirs cost an action to use which isn't valuable enough to warrant your action in combat. and if you aren't using elixirs and just casting spells or attacking why play an alchemist? the solution is providing them strong bonus action economy so it doesn't feel like you wasted your turn drinking elixirs. the solution of course is sorcerer. with quickened spell, you can still cast levelled spells while using elixirs. a level 2 (with metamagic adept) - 5 dip should be enough to get a solid amount of sorc points. Squeezing fighter 2 for action surge can help this along further. 2. armorer- this leans towards a tanking role but they don't have alot of flaws. one multiclass combo i'd broach to the DM is druid. the magical armor fits itself around you. how would the DM rule being wildshaped let's say to a bear or a giant constrictor snake with your magical armor still around you? if they rule this favorably (and i believe it works RAW), there's alot of fun stuff you can do with an armored wild shaped combatant. 3. artillerist- like the armorer, this doesn't have alot of flaws and can lean toward a support or a striker role. the replenishing temp hp the protector cannon provides go very well with tanks just like steak and potatoes. what better tank to slap this on than the ancestral guardian barb? 4. battlesmith- not alot of flaws here either and the battlesmith is quite versatile as it can be a striker, tank or summoner. a multiclass combo i'd suggest here is going arcane archer. aligning your atk and cast stat to be int pump those arcane shot dcs. building around grasping arrow, we can trigger the dmg multiple times using artificer cantrips like thorn whip for dmg on our turn and grapple+dragging with the steel defender on the steel defender's turn. if they decide to escape the grapple on their turn, they will trigger grasping arrow again if they move away from the steel defender.
You can multi class a powerful build with the artificer but it’s not necessary if you pick the right race: I am playing an adventure campaign based on the Cthulhu mythos book(we’re investigators in a far away continent, ruled by a hostile, but not oppressive, theocracy, our goal is to find the monster/s behind the murders in this small town). My character is a level 4 battle smith artificer, I was immediately intrigued by the steel defender a MEDIUM sized robot which can help you in battle. Per the rules of the dnd a character can successfully ride any willing creature of a bigger size than you. Obvious choice would be a dwarf, fuck that, I chose a zoog. A zoom has a few important features for the artificer, firstly it has a +2 in intelligence, giving the possibility of being a melee machine way more feasible, secondly it has tentacles and a tail both of which can use and manipulate object, I used this ability to convince my DM that they can therefore both take out material components out of my bag of holding and can ignore the somatic component as it can just use its tentacles (effectively ignoring the warcaster feat). They also get a +2 in dexterity which is just free AC, I used my 2 feats on Charge, giving me an extra attack every time i charge an enemy while not on my defender (kn case it dies i’m not totally useless in combat), and the Mounted fighter feat, which A gives me advantage on all medium or lower sized creatures, and B lets me choose wether an incoming attack hits me or my defender. And Zoogs also get a +4 racial in perception, a +2 in everything that has to do with traps and j think a +4 in stealth(might be +2 but I’m not sure). This makes for a character insane both in roleplay (high INT means you can metagame mostly through you’re campaign, I still haven’t failed a “knowledge” check), making the dm mad cause not a single of the 10+ traps have managed to hit us thanks to me, every door opens to me( I also took a criminal background, making me a MASTERlockpicker) and an unstoppable magic war machine, charging creatures with my defender then jumping on them to get them prone have my defender shred them. It’s a real fun character letting you take it to places you wouldn’t think D&D could take you, plus the whole roleplay of a zoog is fantastical, their cannibalistic, trickster, intelligent rats, who try to eat their cat companions but who also outsmart the fuck out every npc the dm hits us with. Great combo really recommend it.
I have a Armourer 5 Gunslinger 2 at the moment that has just been awesome. Using the Heavyarms Gunslinger for the multiclass. I have invested into the skill expert feat and magic initiate to give a super well rounded character. It is based in Ebberon so I have done the setting specific race and backgrounds to give me an extra D4 on top off all my tool rolls. With Guidance I can roll a dirty 20 off of a natural 1. I also have reflavoured the tinkers tools and stuff into a magical tattoo gun. I can do small 3d prints with it, and use it to paint. It is overall a lot of fun. My armour from the armourer is also tattooed on as well. So I look like a punk rocker with a leather jacket, but I have magical armour that shows through when hit via fancy tattoos. A tattooist gunslinger named Frank :D
I like it! Heavyarms' Gunslinger is great (I have played it at 4th level so far). I can see the natural fit with it for Eberron. 3D printing in D&D sounds fun!
@@FlutesLoot I am loving it so far. Even with the 2 level dip it has been great. Eberron has been the perfect fit for both classes to go together. I get to use Int for both attacking and creating. I've also been using your stuff from item creation and scrolls and such as well to do a bunch from the artificer side. I flavour the 3d printing as a substitute the tinkering side of things. So I did a quick 3d print of a wedge of cheese that was solid like stone to wedge a door jam. It was the replacement for tinkering the door from being able to open.
My favorite concept I've come up with for a build in 5ed so far is 3 levels artificer artillerist, 3 lycan blood hunter, 3 rune knight on a warforged. So I end up with a werewolf version of colossus from xmen
Artificer/bloodhunter is nice. I made a ratfolk (kolbald reflavored a little) battlesmith, mutant. I wanted to do alchemist for flavor but I don't like the subclass. But the combo was fun and boosting intelligence with the mutagen was beautiful. Highest intelligence build I have made and I derailed cos because I built a car...
@@FlutesLoot yeah....... kinda...... it was a steam powered cart..... more like a train with no tracks...... I made sure I could get all the parts and then asked my dm..... he looked at me and said "if you can explain how it works I'll let you" so I sent him a video from an anime that did it and he asked what my intelligence was and it was 17(+3 mod) then he said I'd have to roll at least a dirty 20 and I rolled a 19+3. He just laughed and let it happen. Granted that was session 1 and we only had 2 sessions before he said he didn't like the way it was going...... I think I had something to do with that unfortunately. Made too many things that were not good for COS. Being a blacksmith and artificer I made a gun after seeing it and it was better than the ones the gunslingers had so I ended up making one for each of them....
I'm aware that I'm super late here, but I'm currently playing an armorer artificer and I'm debating levels of monk because of the gauntlets on the arcane armor and their thunder damage. But I'm not fully set on it just yet.
That sounds rad. Make sure you read about what does and does not function with the Monk's features when you wear armor. If it is still appealing after taking inventory of those pros and cons, it could be a fun concept. I think you'd need to go at least two levels in Monk to make it worthwhile, but it feels like three levels to make it substantial.
Quick question, does arcane deflection also mean you can´t make any kind of attacks? It say´s you can´t cast spells other than cantrips but if you are also an atificer you can make a melee attack. And since you use you reaction you could use it in every turn, giving yourself a +2 to AC or a +4 to saving throws all the time (well, you won´t be able to cast more powerfull spells or counterspell but it would be an interesting trade off).
I love the idea of a artificer dipping into mutant blood hunter for the mutagens, I can’t remember what the mutagen is called but it boosts your int max by 3 and even higher at later levels and it doesn’t require you to be leveled in that class, RAW it works like how eldritch blast works in the sense that you can be level 11 with 3 in blood hunter and 8 in artificer and you get the upgrade to the mutagen still. So if your going armorer you can hit on a +8 without your prof bonus. Take archery fighting style, and use magic weapon to give your gauntlet a +2 from that so um yeah you hit on a +18 eventually😂 I love harengon for this subclass as well, your going to be your DMs least favorite player since your probably never going to miss
@@FlutesLoot well I suppose it depends on your dm just because blood hunter isn’t technically part of 5e although it is on dndbeyond. I also wouldn’t play it to this extent just because if your hitting on an 18 your dm is definitely going to make the enemies AC much higher and it’ll drain the fun for a lot of the party unless your on a team full of AOE casters, or your whole party is OP as heck
I am about to play an armorer with the intention of resembling a power ranger (my childhood heroes). Somehow I really want this Hand to Hand combat style to shine so I thought of using 3 levels of monk which didnt synergies with the monks benefits at that Level. Barbarian is the most difficult because of the needed strentgh which is usually dumped as an artificer. So I came up with "Rune knight - fighter (combat style defense)". This gives me a higher armor class with only using Medium armor without getting disadvantage on stealth. The Rune knight is just a flavor / style decision because of the fire runes extra fire attack
A swashbuckling artificer sounds like a wonderful idea I must try with my war-forged character now the only problem is what should be the base class the rouge or artificer
I'd personally go for core Rogue, but I'm biased. I love Rogues. I'd go for two levels of Artificer for the Repeating Shot Infusion plus medium armor and shield proficiencies. Repeating Show would enable me to use a hand crossbow and a shield. For a Swashbuckler, however, I might focus on melee attacks. It might depend on whether the concept I wanted to play involved an Artificer subclass.
@@FlutesLoot my idea was to get a swashbuckling artillerist that usually fights with their rapier or saber but keeps a pistol in the back pocket just incase
Order cleric is a really great 1 lvl dip as you vortex warp the palladin/rogue/fighter/barbarian to the BBEG or the ranged character away from him they can immediately start attacking. Would have been better if artificer also got thunderstep, polymorph and dimension door. If I were to make an artificer, life cleric, multiclass I would do it like this: mark of healing halfling wither and bloom student background (to get the following spells on my artificer spell list aura of vitality, prayer of healing, inflict wound, wither and bloom and vampiric touch) 10 lvls artificer alchemist, 6 lvls of life cleric (so that you heal yourself as much every turn as you heal every one else with aura of vitality) 2 lvls of stars druid (chalice for an extra d8 of healing per spell) and 2 lvls of necromancer (so you get to add extra damage from artificer to the extra added necrotic spells and the healing as well on wither and bloom and vampiric touch. Petting that cat -your familiar- is suddenly not in the guards best interest or have your owl use its flyby while you heal extra of off them. Another good choice for race is the new bugbear which basically let's you upcast vampiric touch if you beat them in initiative). Alternatively you could also go 11 artificer, 6 cleric and 3 warlock. (pact of the chain with full heal invocation for full heal on yourself and invisible vampiric touch self heal with an invisible familiar. They also get flock of familiars which is the lowest lvl mass creature summon ability to sacrafice for your own healing)
@@FlutesLoot it just add armor of agathys to your spell list, otherwhise can be a tiefling if you master allow you to cast it with your other spell slot like the races in tasha but I think dwarf work better for the theme. Its a way for avoid the warlock dip
Armorer Artificer/Moon Druid. Wildshape says you can wear armor, but it must fit you, however Wildshape does not change your armor shape. HOWEVER Arcane Armor says that it forms to fit you. So you can gain the AC (if lower) plus you gain the benefits of wearing the Arcane Armor and it's class features since they rely on wearing the armor. Armored Direwolf capable of either ranged attacks or gaining temp HP. Plus if you have a feat being able to combine Crusher, Returning Weapon on a Light Hammer, and Spike Growth is super fun.
Wouldn't you however run into the whole druids don't wear metal thing? Serpent scale armor might be the lowest rarety (uncommon) that interpretation dependant doesn't break the druid armor rule and finding a serpent to harvest scales from might be easier, cheaper and well SAFER.
@@woutvanostaden1299 while I agree, I've found that most players/DMs ignore the metal restriction for Druids. I've ceased pointing it out at this point unless I want to give the caveat that many people ignore the restriction.
@@woutvanostaden1299 So Jeremy Crawford would say that some would if it made sense for RP. However, to that I say that's cool too but Arcane Armor does not have to be heavy or metal armor. Additionally some armors scale with Dex and some animals have higher dex than a player can have and will benefit from the armor even more than plate.
@@GMJoeGrey the serpent scale armor is an uncommon magic item that is basically scale mail but uses your full dex modifier and doesn't impose disadvantage on stealth checks.
@@FlutesLoot From ranger I take the archery fighting style and choose my favored enemies based on character backstory or local monsters. Monster Slayer I only go to level 3 for Hunter Sense and Slayer's Prey. Hunter Sense is nice for the damage immunities, resistances, vulnerabilities info while Slayer's Prey is for that little bit of extra 1d6 damage from the first attack each turn. Spell wise I take Hunter Mark, Entangle and Goodberrys.
One of my favorite currently used build was actually from a challenge to make the edgiest non-rogue or necromancer build possible, I call is Iron Doom Man: 3 levels of bear totem barbarian rest armorer artificer. Take Guardian Armor, Mind Sharpener on your armor, Enhanced Defence on your shield, and Shield Master on either your race feat with VH or first ASI and find a ring of mind shielding. Become a raging impossible to hit and all damage resistant tank that can dodge dragon breath weapons and fireballs, Thunder Gauntlet Punching everything into submission. Backstory: standard nerdy like to make cool stuff tinker untill demon raid leaves them alone a crippled in their buring village so they build their armor to go on a destroy all evil quest like out of Goblin Slayer refusing to take your armor off, growling in a gravelly voice about killing monsters all day until you fall asleep standing up in your mech-armor looming over your party's camp like a statue of hatred and murder
Nothing comes immediately to mind (maybe my article has an idea or two, idk). I don't see great mechanical synergy, but someone could enjoy a narrative combo; maybe a Sorcerer who needs a magical suit of armor to act as a limiter for the power they can't control.
Battlesmith 3+/Fighter or Paladin 2+. Go small race. Ride your battle smith companion. Hold shield and lance. Grab fighting style. Your choice. Protection for disadvantage again enemy attacks against your mount. Your mount has a reaction to also cause disadvantage to anyone else within 5ft of them. Dueling for +2 damage. Because mounted lance is one handed. Watchout for disadvantage at 5 ft. Defense for more AC Grab mounted combatant for your first ASI. Advantage on the peasants without a mount.
oil doesnt add a +5 to fire damage what it does is 5 flat damage when ignited so any magical fire damage has to state in the spell that it will light any non worn burnable objects in the spell discription which heat metal doesnt do so they wouldnt pair up
Here is what the description for oil says: "Oil usually comes in a clay flask that holds 1 pint. As an action, you can splash the oil in this flask onto a creature within 5 feet of you or throw it up to 20 feet, shattering it on impact. Make a ranged attack against a target creature or object, treating the oil as an improvised weapon. On a hit, the target is covered in oil. If the target takes any fire damage before the oil dries (after 1 minute), the target takes an additional 5 fire damage from the burning oil. You can also pour a flask of oil on the ground to cover a 5-foot-square area, provided that the surface is level. If lit, the oil burns for 2 rounds and deals 5 fire damage to any creature that enters the area or ends its turn in the area. A creature can take this damage only once per turn."
Basically. If it is poured on the ground, it needs to be lit to deal the extra damage. If it is poured on a person, any fire damage deals extra damage.
MtG, on Innistrad, has these characters that are mad scientists that stitch zombies from corpses. Using their knowledge on anatomy and science to preserve the corpses and their magic to animate and bring them to life. They are called necro alchemists. Have fun with the idea
Artificer was better as a profession. Warforged Monk/Artificer who upgraded his own body to adamantine with natural spiked knuckles. That was old school where 20 lvls monk and artificer was his profession.
This is super gimmicky. As in, it is an entire build made for one thing and one thing only. We present the inescapable grappler. This guy goes into artificer for the infusions that allows you to use intelligence on top of strength for strength checks and such. Then put a couple of levels into rune knight for that extra size and advantage. Flash of genius does prop up your strength check, and then take old hobgoblin for save face for another +5. Skilled expert for expertise in Athletics. This guy can, using all resources, make a natural 1 into a 31 athletics check while a tarrasque can only get a 30 on a nat 20. Meaning that nothing can escape your grapple at level 20. There is a bunch of other things I might be forgetting but that is the basis of it. You can also go for Duergar for the enlarge or ask a friendly wizard to cast it on you. Also, Armorer artificer for that extra infusion in your armor. A belt of giant strength (dump strength go all int) and maybe also an amulet for that 19 con.
Thanks for that video! The predicament of the artificer is, that it gets good stuff every level, which makes it hard to multiclass out of! Maybe easier to multiclass dip into, it all depends of course on how long your campaign lasts and what level you start. But, I can tell you, as much my arti wants wizard levels, I'll miss out out on good stuff all the way from lv 1 to 12, not to mention the SD's hit points...
I understand that predicament. I think Artificer is great for multiclass dips, but I tend to want to stick with it if I play an Artificer as my core character class/concept.
I think you missed out on Infiltrator Armor with Rogue. Adv. on Stealth, Booming Blade, Shield Prof. a few infusions. Yes a 3 level "dip" is steep. But it offers a lot. Also the Lightning Gun works with Sneak Attack and Dex.
Great ideas! Dipping 3 levels is steep, but those are fine benefits.
Samurai/armorer, his set of armor is a family heirloom, and he intends to make it mythical.
Also Sammy's wear a mask (menpo) that is perfect for magical tinkering or to hold infusions.
Ooo I like this take on an Armorer with relics that hold spirits, curses, etc. to pair with the Samurai. I find that I enjoy re-flavoring the Artificer, and yours is a great idea.
A fun idea for Amy kind of Artificer is to pair it with 3 levels of Wild Magic Barbarian.
Naratively you're essentially an arcanic battery and when you "rage" that power goes out of control. I'm inclined to say this works best with Armorer using the Gaurdian model to become a hell of a tank or, as a small race, battle smith to be a mounted terror.
That's a fun concept! I always enjoy reflavoring Rage.
Be careful with Armorer as its heavy armor makes things like Rage not work.
I played a one-shot as a 4th lvl Armorer (light armor) 16th lvl Arcane Trickster. Rounding out spells was nice. However, my attack focus was the lighting launcher, a ranged weapon electrical attack. With sneak attack damage and sharpshooter, it was a lot of fun.
That sounds like a fun character! I love Rogues, and taking some Artificer levels will add to the fun.
One build I enjoyed making and playing was an Armorer 5 / Thief Rogue 15, using the Infiltrator armor model with a studded leather armor. The race I think works best is Elf: mark of shadow
You gain permanent advantage on stealth checks and a bonus to movement speed, in addition to a lot of utility and the basic thief shenanigans
For feats, I got Sharpshooter, Elven's accuracy (DEX), Fighting Initiate (Archery) and Tavern Brawler (CON)
The DPR is also very good because of lightning launcher and extra attack
That's a fun build, I like it. I like hearing about Eberron content being used with the mark.
I’m playing a rock gnome artillerist artificer with a level in forge cleric for heavy armor, a bonus to my ac from blessing of the forge, more utility spells and for the flavor. Being able to wear heavy armor and be up front with the flamethrower or protector turret is amazing!
Brilliant! Forge Cleric is certainly on-brand for this type of character and it adds much to player options.
Awesome vid:)
Thank you! :)
I am enjoying my wizard/Artificer multiclass(Level 6 wizard/Level 3 artificer) so far as it is a nuanced approach with how the classes work, especially with the start as artificer with the con saving throws. Originally was going to go Battlesmith due to being a bladesinger but went Alchemist to help with some utility, spicing things up character wise and having access to the Healing Word spell as subclass spell in case my party's cleric/fighter goes down. Outside of bladesong, I don't have many spells to use as Bonus action and Healing word is good to have.
Those are fantastic options to have. I really enjoy Wizard + Artificer.
@@FlutesLoot I do too intelligence based and doesn't hurt too much for spell progression to pick up spells wizards don't have for utility or support.. Especially with a DM that listens to creative ideas for infusions when it comes to replicating magic items (Like turning my mundane Backpack into a bag of holding after explaining it).
What's the point of being Artificer and Bladesinger if the most important ability of Bladesinger does not work in medium/heavy armor?
@@parheliaa Both classes are Intelligence based casters and there are some spells that Artificers have that Wizards don't have access to naturally. Also some of the infusions like Mind Sharpener and enhanced defense can help. Also if a Bladesinger/Artificer starts in Artificer, they get proficiency in CON SAVES, which also can help in keeping concentration on that important spell that needs to be kept active.
@@DarkSwan01 It is helpful for any Wizard, so why Bladesinger particularly?
Currently playing a rogue artificer with a focus on armorer and eventually phantom.. he talks to the dead and all his magic items and spells are some form of the spirits helping him out and he uses the lightning thrower for sneak attack
Ooo cool! "Magic" items feel haunted or like conduits to former owners and spirits. Very cool!
thank you!
Sure thing! :)
3 Battlesmith/X Eldritch Knight. Dump str and go Int like Hexblades do Cha.
3 Armorer/X Wizard. Dr. Doom anyone?
As to your idea of a necromancer; reflavor the armor with bone. You're now a Palemaster.
Oooo awesome ideas! Palemaster sounds so cool.
I would start as Artificer to get the prof. in CON. Going to at least 3rd lvl. will get you a choice of 4 subclasses (my fav is Alchemist! Yeah, I said it!) and even though you're a half-caster you round up instead of down so as a 3rd lvl. caster you count as a 2nd lvl. caster... then multiclass into a wizard of choice and take it to 6th level to get the first two subclass features and a number of spellslots. (You'll be the equivalent of an 8th lvl. caster at your overall lvl. of 9th.) Then go back into Artificer for 4 more lvls. to get Flash of Genius, now your overall lvl. is 16, and since you don't have enough lvls. left to get the 14th lvl. wizard feature you might as well continue the last four lvls. in Artificer for a multiclass split of 11th lvl. Artificer/9th lvl. Wizard. 11 lvls. in Artificer gains you the 10th lvl. Magic Adept feature, attune to 4 magic items and craft common and uncommon magic items and the 11th lvl. feature Spell-Storing Item, store a spell and use it a number of times = 2xINT bonus.
PS: You end up with a mix of 5 really good features compared to the wizards 4 and the artificers 4.
I'm playing a Wizard 5 Artificer 1 (started Artificer) and it works great
personally i like artificer as a level 1-2 dip (just to pick up a couple of infusions or just cantrips and armor/con save prof) or as a main class that doesn't multiclass out until level 12. artificers remind me of bards in this regard having a very powerful high level ability you want to beeline for in spell storing item. I'll share some multiclassing solutions/synergies for each subclass:
1. alchemist- it's biggest flaw is that elixirs cost an action to use which isn't valuable enough to warrant your action in combat. and if you aren't using elixirs and just casting spells or attacking why play an alchemist? the solution is providing them strong bonus action economy so it doesn't feel like you wasted your turn drinking elixirs. the solution of course is sorcerer. with quickened spell, you can still cast levelled spells while using elixirs. a level 2 (with metamagic adept) - 5 dip should be enough to get a solid amount of sorc points. Squeezing fighter 2 for action surge can help this along further.
2. armorer- this leans towards a tanking role but they don't have alot of flaws. one multiclass combo i'd broach to the DM is druid. the magical armor fits itself around you. how would the DM rule being wildshaped let's say to a bear or a giant constrictor snake with your magical armor still around you? if they rule this favorably (and i believe it works RAW), there's alot of fun stuff you can do with an armored wild shaped combatant.
3. artillerist- like the armorer, this doesn't have alot of flaws and can lean toward a support or a striker role. the replenishing temp hp the protector cannon provides go very well with tanks just like steak and potatoes. what better tank to slap this on than the ancestral guardian barb?
4. battlesmith- not alot of flaws here either and the battlesmith is quite versatile as it can be a striker, tank or summoner. a multiclass combo i'd suggest here is going arcane archer. aligning your atk and cast stat to be int pump those arcane shot dcs. building around grasping arrow, we can trigger the dmg multiple times using artificer cantrips like thorn whip for dmg on our turn and grapple+dragging with the steel defender on the steel defender's turn. if they decide to escape the grapple on their turn, they will trigger grasping arrow again if they move away from the steel defender.
Great notes! I like Artificers as 1-2 dip levels of multiclassing as well.
You can multi class a powerful build with the artificer but it’s not necessary if you pick the right race: I am playing an adventure campaign based on the Cthulhu mythos book(we’re investigators in a far away continent, ruled by a hostile, but not oppressive, theocracy, our goal is to find the monster/s behind the murders in this small town). My character is a level 4 battle smith artificer, I was immediately intrigued by the steel defender a MEDIUM sized robot which can help you in battle. Per the rules of the dnd a character can successfully ride any willing creature of a bigger size than you. Obvious choice would be a dwarf, fuck that, I chose a zoog. A zoom has a few important features for the artificer, firstly it has a +2 in intelligence, giving the possibility of being a melee machine way more feasible, secondly it has tentacles and a tail both of which can use and manipulate object, I used this ability to convince my DM that they can therefore both take out material components out of my bag of holding and can ignore the somatic component as it can just use its tentacles (effectively ignoring the warcaster feat). They also get a +2 in dexterity which is just free AC, I used my 2 feats on Charge, giving me an extra attack every time i charge an enemy while not on my defender (kn case it dies i’m not totally useless in combat), and the Mounted fighter feat, which A gives me advantage on all medium or lower sized creatures, and B lets me choose wether an incoming attack hits me or my defender. And Zoogs also get a +4 racial in perception, a +2 in everything that has to do with traps and j think a +4 in stealth(might be +2 but I’m not sure). This makes for a character insane both in roleplay (high INT means you can metagame mostly through you’re campaign, I still haven’t failed a “knowledge” check), making the dm mad cause not a single of the 10+ traps have managed to hit us thanks to me, every door opens to me( I also took a criminal background, making me a MASTERlockpicker) and an unstoppable magic war machine, charging creatures with my defender then jumping on them to get them prone have my defender shred them. It’s a real fun character letting you take it to places you wouldn’t think D&D could take you, plus the whole roleplay of a zoog is fantastical, their cannibalistic, trickster, intelligent rats, who try to eat their cat companions but who also outsmart the fuck out every npc the dm hits us with. Great combo really recommend it.
I have a Armourer 5 Gunslinger 2 at the moment that has just been awesome. Using the Heavyarms Gunslinger for the multiclass.
I have invested into the skill expert feat and magic initiate to give a super well rounded character. It is based in Ebberon so I have done the setting specific race and backgrounds to give me an extra D4 on top off all my tool rolls. With Guidance I can roll a dirty 20 off of a natural 1.
I also have reflavoured the tinkers tools and stuff into a magical tattoo gun. I can do small 3d prints with it, and use it to paint. It is overall a lot of fun. My armour from the armourer is also tattooed on as well. So I look like a punk rocker with a leather jacket, but I have magical armour that shows through when hit via fancy tattoos.
A tattooist gunslinger named Frank :D
I like it! Heavyarms' Gunslinger is great (I have played it at 4th level so far). I can see the natural fit with it for Eberron. 3D printing in D&D sounds fun!
@@FlutesLoot I am loving it so far. Even with the 2 level dip it has been great. Eberron has been the perfect fit for both classes to go together. I get to use Int for both attacking and creating.
I've also been using your stuff from item creation and scrolls and such as well to do a bunch from the artificer side.
I flavour the 3d printing as a substitute the tinkering side of things. So I did a quick 3d print of a wedge of cheese that was solid like stone to wedge a door jam. It was the replacement for tinkering the door from being able to open.
@@griner65 lol the cheese hack. I'm glad our advice/info for crafting and scrolls has been helpful!
Great video, just curious how good would a Multiclass of Artificer and Death Domaine cleric work
It depends on what you want to accomplish! What would you want this combination to achieve?
My favorite concept I've come up with for a build in 5ed so far is 3 levels artificer artillerist, 3 lycan blood hunter, 3 rune knight on a warforged. So I end up with a werewolf version of colossus from xmen
Artificer/bloodhunter is nice. I made a ratfolk (kolbald reflavored a little) battlesmith, mutant. I wanted to do alchemist for flavor but I don't like the subclass. But the combo was fun and boosting intelligence with the mutagen was beautiful. Highest intelligence build I have made and I derailed cos because I built a car...
Tim Huges, I'm a huge X-Men fan, so I'll have to look into this combination!
@@jamessberna1330 you cuilt a car in Curse of Strahd? LOL
@@FlutesLoot yeah....... kinda...... it was a steam powered cart..... more like a train with no tracks...... I made sure I could get all the parts and then asked my dm..... he looked at me and said "if you can explain how it works I'll let you" so I sent him a video from an anime that did it and he asked what my intelligence was and it was 17(+3 mod) then he said I'd have to roll at least a dirty 20 and I rolled a 19+3. He just laughed and let it happen. Granted that was session 1 and we only had 2 sessions before he said he didn't like the way it was going...... I think I had something to do with that unfortunately. Made too many things that were not good for COS. Being a blacksmith and artificer I made a gun after seeing it and it was better than the ones the gunslingers had so I ended up making one for each of them....
I had the idea to use one of my space marines in a DnD game, gonna roll an Armorer Artificer and Oath of Conquest Paladin
Ooo nice!
@@FlutesLoot it probably wouldn't be the most optimal option, but it would sure be fun!
I'm aware that I'm super late here, but I'm currently playing an armorer artificer and I'm debating levels of monk because of the gauntlets on the arcane armor and their thunder damage. But I'm not fully set on it just yet.
That sounds rad. Make sure you read about what does and does not function with the Monk's features when you wear armor. If it is still appealing after taking inventory of those pros and cons, it could be a fun concept. I think you'd need to go at least two levels in Monk to make it worthwhile, but it feels like three levels to make it substantial.
Quick question, does arcane deflection also mean you can´t make any kind of attacks? It say´s you can´t cast spells other than cantrips but if you are also an atificer you can make a melee attack.
And since you use you reaction you could use it in every turn, giving yourself a +2 to AC or a +4 to saving throws all the time (well, you won´t be able to cast more powerfull spells or counterspell but it would be an interesting trade off).
You can make attacks after using Arcane Deflection. It's one reason the feature is so useful for multiclassing.
I love the idea of a artificer dipping into mutant blood hunter for the mutagens, I can’t remember what the mutagen is called but it boosts your int max by 3 and even higher at later levels and it doesn’t require you to be leveled in that class, RAW it works like how eldritch blast works in the sense that you can be level 11 with 3 in blood hunter and 8 in artificer and you get the upgrade to the mutagen still. So if your going armorer you can hit on a +8 without your prof bonus. Take archery fighting style, and use magic weapon to give your gauntlet a +2 from that so um yeah you hit on a +18 eventually😂 I love harengon for this subclass as well, your going to be your DMs least favorite player since your probably never going to miss
Sounds beastly! I haven't dived into the Blood Hunter, but I'll keep that in mind when I do.
@@FlutesLoot well I suppose it depends on your dm just because blood hunter isn’t technically part of 5e although it is on dndbeyond. I also wouldn’t play it to this extent just because if your hitting on an 18 your dm is definitely going to make the enemies AC much higher and it’ll drain the fun for a lot of the party unless your on a team full of AOE casters, or your whole party is OP as heck
Infiltrator 3 Rogue, increased speed and advantage on stealth
Medium armor and shields for a Rogue with Repeating Shot Infusion can also be fantastic!
I am about to play an armorer with the intention of resembling a power ranger (my childhood heroes). Somehow I really want this Hand to Hand combat style to shine so I thought of using 3 levels of monk which didnt synergies with the monks benefits at that Level. Barbarian is the most difficult because of the needed strentgh which is usually dumped as an artificer.
So I came up with "Rune knight - fighter (combat style defense)".
This gives me a higher armor class with only using Medium armor without getting disadvantage on stealth. The Rune knight is just a flavor / style decision because of the fire runes extra fire attack
Sounds great! I was wondering if you'd switch from Artificer to something like Astral Self Monk, but I think you made a good choice.
A swashbuckling artificer sounds like a wonderful idea I must try with my war-forged character now the only problem is what should be the base class the rouge or artificer
I'd personally go for core Rogue, but I'm biased. I love Rogues. I'd go for two levels of Artificer for the Repeating Shot Infusion plus medium armor and shield proficiencies. Repeating Show would enable me to use a hand crossbow and a shield. For a Swashbuckler, however, I might focus on melee attacks. It might depend on whether the concept I wanted to play involved an Artificer subclass.
@@FlutesLoot my idea was to get a swashbuckling artillerist that usually fights with their rapier or saber but keeps a pistol in the back pocket just incase
Artificer Alchemist and A Dexterity Barbarian might be nice. You could be sort of a Bruce banner type character
Absolutely! Brain and brawn
Order cleric is a really great 1 lvl dip as you vortex warp the palladin/rogue/fighter/barbarian to the BBEG or the ranged character away from him they can immediately start attacking. Would have been better if artificer also got thunderstep, polymorph and dimension door.
If I were to make an artificer, life cleric, multiclass I would do it like this: mark of healing halfling wither and bloom student background (to get the following spells on my artificer spell list aura of vitality, prayer of healing, inflict wound, wither and bloom and vampiric touch) 10 lvls artificer alchemist, 6 lvls of life cleric (so that you heal yourself as much every turn as you heal every one else with aura of vitality) 2 lvls of stars druid (chalice for an extra d8 of healing per spell) and 2 lvls of necromancer (so you get to add extra damage from artificer to the extra added necrotic spells and the healing as well on wither and bloom and vampiric touch. Petting that cat -your familiar- is suddenly not in the guards best interest or have your owl use its flyby while you heal extra of off them. Another good choice for race is the new bugbear which basically let's you upcast vampiric touch if you beat them in initiative).
Alternatively you could also go 11 artificer, 6 cleric and 3 warlock. (pact of the chain with full heal invocation for full heal on yourself and invisible vampiric touch self heal with an invisible familiar. They also get flock of familiars which is the lowest lvl mass creature summon ability to sacrafice for your own healing)
Those are fantastic ideas! I appreciate the use of Vortex Warp.
If you if you play an Artificer Artillerist and you make your cannon tiny, because you craft it and hold it could you add your arcane firearm to it?
I'd allow it
I wanna make a druid artificer multiclass. For no reason other than I think a hermit armed both wildshape and a shotgun would be hilarious.
"Get out me swamp!" 👹🐴
@@FlutesLoot now imagine that with a very thick southern accent. And you have Hadoc 😂😂
Mark of Warding dwarf armorer 3 + abjurer X with heavy armor master and armor of agathys :P
Is that an Eberron dwarf option? I've not used those, so I'm unfamiliar.
@@FlutesLoot it just add armor of agathys to your spell list, otherwhise can be a tiefling if you master allow you to cast it with your other spell slot like the races in tasha but I think dwarf work better for the theme. Its a way for avoid the warlock dip
@@LeakysTV I love Armor of Agathys builds on full casters!
Armorer Artificer/Moon Druid. Wildshape says you can wear armor, but it must fit you, however Wildshape does not change your armor shape. HOWEVER Arcane Armor says that it forms to fit you. So you can gain the AC (if lower) plus you gain the benefits of wearing the Arcane Armor and it's class features since they rely on wearing the armor. Armored Direwolf capable of either ranged attacks or gaining temp HP. Plus if you have a feat being able to combine Crusher, Returning Weapon on a Light Hammer, and Spike Growth is super fun.
Ooooo that sounds SO fun! I hadn't considered that interaction with Wildshape and Arcane Armor.
Wouldn't you however run into the whole druids don't wear metal thing? Serpent scale armor might be the lowest rarety (uncommon) that interpretation dependant doesn't break the druid armor rule and finding a serpent to harvest scales from might be easier, cheaper and well SAFER.
@@woutvanostaden1299 while I agree, I've found that most players/DMs ignore the metal restriction for Druids. I've ceased pointing it out at this point unless I want to give the caveat that many people ignore the restriction.
@@woutvanostaden1299 So Jeremy Crawford would say that some would if it made sense for RP. However, to that I say that's cool too but Arcane Armor does not have to be heavy or metal armor. Additionally some armors scale with Dex and some animals have higher dex than a player can have and will benefit from the armor even more than plate.
@@GMJoeGrey the serpent scale armor is an uncommon magic item that is basically scale mail but uses your full dex modifier and doesn't impose disadvantage on stealth checks.
I like taking a 3 level dip into Monster Slayer Ranger as a Artillerist
That's one I haven't heard before! What are your favorite pick-ups from the Monster Slayer and/or Ranger?
@@FlutesLoot From ranger I take the archery fighting style and choose my favored enemies based on character backstory or local monsters. Monster Slayer I only go to level 3 for Hunter Sense and Slayer's Prey. Hunter Sense is nice for the damage immunities, resistances, vulnerabilities info while Slayer's Prey is for that little bit of extra 1d6 damage from the first attack each turn. Spell wise I take Hunter Mark, Entangle and Goodberrys.
One of my favorite currently used build was actually from a challenge to make the edgiest non-rogue or necromancer build possible, I call is Iron Doom Man: 3 levels of bear totem barbarian rest armorer artificer. Take Guardian Armor, Mind Sharpener on your armor, Enhanced Defence on your shield, and Shield Master on either your race feat with VH or first ASI and find a ring of mind shielding. Become a raging impossible to hit and all damage resistant tank that can dodge dragon breath weapons and fireballs, Thunder Gauntlet Punching everything into submission. Backstory: standard nerdy like to make cool stuff tinker untill demon raid leaves them alone a crippled in their buring village so they build their armor to go on a destroy all evil quest like out of Goblin Slayer refusing to take your armor off, growling in a gravelly voice about killing monsters all day until you fall asleep standing up in your mech-armor looming over your party's camp like a statue of hatred and murder
That sounds both hilarious and fun to play :P
Made me laugh. Have a like.
There is also an armor of resistance infusion that can give the same resistance.
@@woutvanostaden1299 then you can't use Mind Sharpener, but I suppose it depends of if you're style and plans
Do you have any thoughts on multiclassing an armorer artificer with a sorcerer?
Nothing comes immediately to mind (maybe my article has an idea or two, idk). I don't see great mechanical synergy, but someone could enjoy a narrative combo; maybe a Sorcerer who needs a magical suit of armor to act as a limiter for the power they can't control.
@@FlutesLoot oh my god that's a good idea! Thank you!
Battlesmith 3+/Fighter or Paladin 2+.
Go small race. Ride your battle smith companion. Hold shield and lance.
Grab fighting style. Your choice.
Protection for disadvantage again enemy attacks against your mount. Your mount has a reaction to also cause disadvantage to anyone else within 5ft of them.
Dueling for +2 damage. Because mounted lance is one handed. Watchout for disadvantage at 5 ft.
Defense for more AC
Grab mounted combatant for your first ASI. Advantage on the peasants without a mount.
The idea of being a small race to ride the robot :P
Damn, that's a really cool idea.
oil doesnt add a +5 to fire damage what it does is 5 flat damage when ignited so any magical fire damage has to state in the spell that it will light any non worn burnable objects in the spell discription which heat metal doesnt do so they wouldnt pair up
Here is what the description for oil says: "Oil usually comes in a clay flask that holds 1 pint. As an action, you can splash the oil in this flask onto a creature within 5 feet of you or throw it up to 20 feet, shattering it on impact. Make a ranged attack against a target creature or object, treating the oil as an improvised weapon. On a hit, the target is covered in oil. If the target takes any fire damage before the oil dries (after 1 minute), the target takes an additional 5 fire damage from the burning oil. You can also pour a flask of oil on the ground to cover a 5-foot-square area, provided that the surface is level. If lit, the oil burns for 2 rounds and deals 5 fire damage to any creature that enters the area or ends its turn in the area. A creature can take this damage only once per turn."
Basically. If it is poured on the ground, it needs to be lit to deal the extra damage.
If it is poured on a person, any fire damage deals extra damage.
Imagine being a cleric that creates healing bots... Nice
That's a simple re-flavor of healing that works nicely!
What about multiclassing an Alchemist Artificer with a Necromancy Wizard?
I'm sure that would be fun to roleplay.
That sounds enjoyable, and you can't really go wrong with Artificer + Wizard :)
MtG, on Innistrad, has these characters that are mad scientists that stitch zombies from corpses. Using their knowledge on anatomy and science to preserve the corpses and their magic to animate and bring them to life. They are called necro alchemists. Have fun with the idea
@@ODDnanref perfect!
Artificer was better as a profession. Warforged Monk/Artificer who upgraded his own body to adamantine with natural spiked knuckles. That was old school where 20 lvls monk and artificer was his profession.
Maybe profession and class will be more delineated in the future.
This is super gimmicky. As in, it is an entire build made for one thing and one thing only.
We present the inescapable grappler. This guy goes into artificer for the infusions that allows you to use intelligence on top of strength for strength checks and such. Then put a couple of levels into rune knight for that extra size and advantage. Flash of genius does prop up your strength check, and then take old hobgoblin for save face for another +5. Skilled expert for expertise in Athletics. This guy can, using all resources, make a natural 1 into a 31 athletics check while a tarrasque can only get a 30 on a nat 20. Meaning that nothing can escape your grapple at level 20.
There is a bunch of other things I might be forgetting but that is the basis of it. You can also go for Duergar for the enlarge or ask a friendly wizard to cast it on you. Also, Armorer artificer for that extra infusion in your armor. A belt of giant strength (dump strength go all int) and maybe also an amulet for that 19 con.
Incredible! lol
I can appreciate a super gimmicky build.
Not gonna lie thought it said gunlance not guidance when I first looked.
Well that sounds exciting!