Well, I hope they go early access instead of full release because I have a feeling we’ll have a Humankind situation where a lot of things will change due to community feedback.
@@el-_-grando-_-_-scabandri You mean choosing new culture every time you enter new era? It is the main feature of this game, so yeah, it's still there (honestly I don't like it at all)
With the whole living world thing I hope they actually deliver instead of it just being corporate hype speak. A civ style strategy game with a true living world like victoria 2 would be amazing, where you actually build a society and civilization instead of just map painting and "culture number go up".
you need to either harvest the resource, or trade, or not build an item or building... Through the crafting system its not unlike victoria in terms of construction flow. However, it's still a turn based game.
Something to mention is that Oxide was founded by veterans Civ 5 devs. On their RUclips channel they also have Dev talks/diaries going into more detail on the simultaneous turns etc
I dont want a civ killer though, what i want is competition i want civ to feel pressure to go above and beyond, doesn't matter what you may say but theres been a decrease in quality in games in general and its because people are getting comfortable. I hope humankind has walked so this game can run and the next can sprint. We need more competition
Ara sounds on paper very cool, but everything said in this video feels like wishy-washy spin. They way they can't describe their own game feels like a lack of focus? Everything sounds so vague at the moment that it's hard to make a call on it. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of it, but I am concerned about the execution
As a big Paradox Studios fan, I understand very much that a game with many moving parts is often released in a state of "wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle". I commend them for trying many different things with the game, but I fear it may be a few things too many. Hopefully the game is friendly to modders, who are often the ones left adding depth to mechanics form overly ambitious developers. Truly best of luck, Ara team. I hope the team looks into a staged Early Access phase where people can try some of these novel mecahnics in a bit more isolation, giving the team time to iterate.
Sounds very interesting. Sadly, like many others here, I will have to say I'll believe it when I see it. The company's lack of similar products is a bit worrying. I will further agree with a few other comments here, they should do an early release option (assuming they really think they can pull this off) for all the community feedback.
they come from other strategy game studios, and they've made many of their own real time. This to me is a better game than civ or humankind, each time i launch humankind with buds I wish I was playing ara.
Their marketing strategy seems keen on sabotaging this game; vague and flowery language just leads to red flags appearing in my head. The most important aspect; what are they doing new and interestingly compared to rival title, is completely missing in their pitch.
I hope that the CIV elimination mechanic at the end of acts can be fleshed out more, IE: "You're empire is crumbling! (Flavor text here) this is your last chance to turn things around, if you don't improve your civilization by the next era, your power will wax away till it is nothing at all!"
Not a fan of the prestige system - I don't quite get why should a player be removed from the game if they fail to attain enough prestige. I mean, Egypt experienced periods of decline followed by periods of ascendancy. Why not something like that here?
there isn't really any score catchup mechanics. This also represents the civilizations that aren't like egypt, that fell, we don't talk about how good Sumerians are doing this day.
That Prestige system is interesting but can be pretty unforgiving for some players since it means, that you can't just turtle up for the first two acts and then release all your potential to achieve max prestige in the final act
I am going to stand to disagree. You probably could, but you can't just be sitting around doing nothing. What it does do it is incentivizes the player to be focused on some measure of continued growth of their civilization. Games like the Civ series give you a bit of a pass because you can turtle up and lock yourself into a state of contentment to go in for bigger punches later, but those are also games with a larger focus on military expansion and not really all that focused on the civilization itself. In Civ you can almost become an inactive player and just wait things out. This won't let you get away with that and I think that is very much needed for its objective of play style. That said, there will still probably be ways that you can prepare yourself for better strides in the later parts of the game. But those actions still require you to be an active player. Rather than reactive or idle.
Hmmm. Feedback: The (German) GameStar video got me much more excited about this game than your video. (FYI: I have not played civ in many years, although I picked up Civ6 in a recent Steam sale.)
It seems they have imbedded territory distinctives, e.g. wild animals, in a discrete way permitting the player to enjoy the scenery and not get boggled by floating cell values. I hope there is a true Earth map. Procedurally generated maps are ok but its fun to see how the real world could have been with different cultures and players.
I just hope it isn’t a soft game, civ vi kind of has that where even though you have things like dictatorship or armys, nothing really evil to bad happens, sure you can raze city’s, nuke city’s, but things like slavery or genocide is missing (besides from a passing remark from montezula about enslaving your people) I want a game where all ascoects of humanity are shown, good and bad
One thing that is not really reflected well in some of these world games is scarcity of resources. Lack of resources often led to wars and migration. This could adversely effect the prosperity of your civilization more than anything.
you litterally don't have the resource if you don't get it by means of trade, or means of production, with out it you wouldn't be able to make good buildings, special buildings, or equipment for your military. You can easily have more men, and not enough weapons to make your armies and lose because you where not prepared due to the scarcity of resources. Therefore ransacking supplies becomes a thing in this game. See the iron node, and destroy it, no more iron tech units.
Looks like a Civ copycat BUT who said it is bad! If they will do better than Civ then it will be just a great game. More different Civ-like games the better.
@@jerico9263yeah that’s what worries people who saw a game fall every time it has been backed by a big company (No Man’s Sky 2016 for example, myself included with PVZ Battle for Neighborville)
So what does Ara History Untold actually mean? They might want to rethink this name. It’s drawn out and doesn’t describe what the game is. Civilization and Humankind are a lot clearer in this regard.
I strongly agree with this. I've ignored like 5 videos on this game until this one, even though I love Civ and have played them all except the first. I eventually watched this one and am now interested in this game, but the name isn't doing it any favors.
@@armoredchimp I'm still very interested, it's exactly the kind of game I generally gravitate to. However, we all know how important naming and branding is and right off the bat they're hitting a foul ball. I strongly suspect this is a big reason why "Old World" does not have the player base that it deserves.
It looks very cool, very different to civ more along the lines of CK in It's map design and I'm all for that. Humankind was too much like Civ this looks different
How times change. We’re losing hope with every failed release of a game. Just reading the comments here is a warzone of sadness. Of hyped games that died.
I wonder what the economy will be like? Specifically, are trade routes and so on going to be physically present as with Civ and Distant Worlds, or are they going to abstract it all behind the scenes?
based off this video i think the problem is that the game will play itself too often only giving a single player an optimal choice. As they said migration is natural and not controlled by the player. While realistically it makes sense, in function it might take away control from the player. Same with resources you don't really have to play around resources in civ 6 but that's what makes its it fun you can play around anything you want. I feel like ara is going to force players to play around their surroundings too hard instead of letting them do what they want.
Based on the presentation, that appears to be intentional, not a mistake. If the goal of this game is to share qualities of games like the Civ series but also give the game a deeper feel of simulation in the management of a civilizations growth, this is how it is done. You have to work with what you have. You can't conjure materials that do not exist in the area around you. This is how civilizations started in the past. Secondly, this does not appear to be aiming for the same play style that you are referencing. Actions will have restrictions and consequences, which is more than I can say for most Civilization based games I have come across. And third, you appear to have misunderstood the section of the video about migration. It is a natural thing with no direct or immediate control, yes. But you DO have ways to affect it. Aspects of your civilization that you can make desirable by comparison to others that boost or improve your rate of immigration. There may not be a hard number you are affecting, but that does not mean it is outside of your influence.
Those Positive/Negative bonus status effects (for health, research, etc.) seems to be a bit bland and unimaginative - only + or - modifiers. Looking for more spicy bonus effects!
after humankind i dont trust any of these civ games anymore. and the next Civilization game has been announced for 2024 so.. i think this will die pretty quickly
these worlds look so alive compared to humankind and definitely FAR better than civs board game style I am interested in how they'll take this over to the warfare will we see devastated landscapes and how about cultural diversion are the cities and units going to look the same for each civilization like they do in civ or are they going to be different like humankind
Maybe prestige is not the right word. Maybe power is better. Whether commercial or military or cultural it matters little what you have accomplished in the past. Its what you can muster in the moment that gets respect and attention.
At first I heard the devs were indie guys with a history of working on other 4x titles. Then I learned that they are MS backed, which made me lose interest. We'll see what happens.
I'm already worried because they showed Greece being led by Sappho. For those who don't know, Sappho was an ancient Greek poet who is known for writing lesbian poetry. Gee, can't you think of anyone else in Greek history maybe worthy of leading them? So, woke alert; that'd be like having the US led by Dylan Mulvaney. Perhaps leadership is just a reflection of your goals, Sappho becomes your leader if you choose expression, but maybe you get Alexander if you take Greece down the military path. And if you take the US down the expression path, maybe you DO get Dylan...
Ha! No crying here. I'm not a snow-flake "feral cat girl". I'll just ignore the game when it comes out. It's what happens when games, movies, and companies go woke, they quickly go broke. @@feralcatgirl
This is about history, and why Sappho is a very bad (but woke) choice as the leader of a country. You are too ignorant of history I'm sure, or you wouldn't have said I was crying about it. I'm curious, do you think that any time some one disagrees with you, they are "crying" about it? Are you crying about my comments? Are you seriously that immature that this is your best argument? While I'm not crying about it, I am laughing about you calling yourself "feralcatgirl". You probably think it's edgy, yes? No, "m8", it's not. Really cringe, like you live alone with 20 cats and have a weight problem.
Why? Bill Herrington can lead US in this game and Rasputin (russian love machine ha ha) lead Russia. See no problem in it. It will be very original. I am sure Rasputin could’ve been a better leader than putin (current self-proclaimed “president” of Russia and a military criminal) and definitely not so bloodlusty.
Zzzz... another female strong leader & uplifted *beeep* no thanks not this time, the time before or next time. Its not like I ever dreamed about roleplaying as Sappho.
Desperate for a new 4x game but no MP means no purchase for me. 4X is a genre where no new titles have all the features of their predecessors from 15 years ago in one package.
Yeah lost me there, shame. Sure once the devs see the player numbers they'll reconsider but it'll be too late, just like it was for HK (for different reasons)
> it's eXperementation because there is no single path to victory and maps are procedurally generated So just like it is in most 4X games, and specifically like it was in Civilization since the very first one back in 1991? They just didn't have an idea to call it the 5th X, because the very term 4X wasn't invented yet. > eXpression So choosing pronouns and buying cosmetics?
I just hope they won't include bullshit climate propagnada mechanics like Civ VI did with it's idiotic apocalyptic mode that targets your cities and Humankind which just ends the game (which was absolutely abysmal)
Well, I hope they go early access instead of full release because I have a feeling we’ll have a Humankind situation where a lot of things will change due to community feedback.
is culture swapping feature removed or changed?
@@el-_-grando-_-_-scabandri You mean choosing new culture every time you enter new era? It is the main feature of this game, so yeah, it's still there (honestly I don't like it at all)
@@yuntes2211 any mod to change that? otherwise it's just a subciv clone with pretty sheets who's devs miss the mark with their tabula rasa mindset.
@@el-_-grando-_-_-scabandri You can just keep the same culture. You just wont get the benefits of more modern cutures.
they've been doing insider tests with the community. They also have comprehensive surveys and an active forum.
With the whole living world thing I hope they actually deliver instead of it just being corporate hype speak.
A civ style strategy game with a true living world like victoria 2 would be amazing, where you actually build a society and civilization instead of just map painting and "culture number go up".
you need to either harvest the resource, or trade, or not build an item or building... Through the crafting system its not unlike victoria in terms of construction flow. However, it's still a turn based game.
Something to mention is that Oxide was founded by veterans Civ 5 devs. On their RUclips channel they also have Dev talks/diaries going into more detail on the simultaneous turns etc
Hopefully not another civ killer that falls flat.
'Civ killer'
Lmao
If it falls flat it is not a killer? That would be taking his own life
I’m using the term to refer to any game that takes what civ does and claims to do it better. Nothing will really kill civ any time soon.
I'll have you know I played 1 full game of Humankind!!! ... and then 500 more Civ 6.
I dont want a civ killer though, what i want is competition i want civ to feel pressure to go above and beyond, doesn't matter what you may say but theres been a decrease in quality in games in general and its because people are getting comfortable.
I hope humankind has walked so this game can run and the next can sprint. We need more competition
It should really tell you something that you don't really hear, "It's like SimCity." anymore. You hear, "It's like Cities Skylines."
It tells me that the genre of actual city simulators (as opposed to city builders) is dead, which is unfortunate.
This game sounds promising, but i worry that it's too ambitious and will fall flat due to that ambition
Seem done right now and unlike overwatch, they seem to give beta test to some people so they can always red flag some things
Ara sounds on paper very cool, but everything said in this video feels like wishy-washy spin. They way they can't describe their own game feels like a lack of focus? Everything sounds so vague at the moment that it's hard to make a call on it. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of it, but I am concerned about the execution
As a big Paradox Studios fan, I understand very much that a game with many moving parts is often released in a state of "wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle". I commend them for trying many different things with the game, but I fear it may be a few things too many. Hopefully the game is friendly to modders, who are often the ones left adding depth to mechanics form overly ambitious developers.
Truly best of luck, Ara team. I hope the team looks into a staged Early Access phase where people can try some of these novel mecahnics in a bit more isolation, giving the team time to iterate.
Ara ara ❤
Sounds very interesting. Sadly, like many others here, I will have to say I'll believe it when I see it. The company's lack of similar products is a bit worrying. I will further agree with a few other comments here, they should do an early release option (assuming they really think they can pull this off) for all the community feedback.
they come from other strategy game studios, and they've made many of their own real time. This to me is a better game than civ or humankind, each time i launch humankind with buds I wish I was playing ara.
Their marketing strategy seems keen on sabotaging this game; vague and flowery language just leads to red flags appearing in my head.
The most important aspect; what are they doing new and interestingly compared to rival title, is completely missing in their pitch.
It sounds promising. But i will keep my hopes in check until we see how it is.
I love when someone takes a big fat swing, hoping for a home run. Sure, they may strike out, but I love the attempt.
Bahahaha. as a fellow kiwi, love you had to go “6x - s.i.x”
I hope that the CIV elimination mechanic at the end of acts can be fleshed out more, IE: "You're empire is crumbling! (Flavor text here) this is your last chance to turn things around, if you don't improve your civilization by the next era, your power will wax away till it is nothing at all!"
Not a fan of the prestige system - I don't quite get why should a player be removed from the game if they fail to attain enough prestige. I mean, Egypt experienced periods of decline followed by periods of ascendancy. Why not something like that here?
there isn't really any score catchup mechanics. This also represents the civilizations that aren't like egypt, that fell, we don't talk about how good Sumerians are doing this day.
That Prestige system is interesting but can be pretty unforgiving for some players since it means, that you can't just turtle up for the first two acts and then release all your potential to achieve max prestige in the final act
I am going to stand to disagree.
You probably could, but you can't just be sitting around doing nothing. What it does do it is incentivizes the player to be focused on some measure of continued growth of their civilization. Games like the Civ series give you a bit of a pass because you can turtle up and lock yourself into a state of contentment to go in for bigger punches later, but those are also games with a larger focus on military expansion and not really all that focused on the civilization itself. In Civ you can almost become an inactive player and just wait things out. This won't let you get away with that and I think that is very much needed for its objective of play style.
That said, there will still probably be ways that you can prepare yourself for better strides in the later parts of the game. But those actions still require you to be an active player. Rather than reactive or idle.
This is sounding super cool. Can't wait.
Hmmm. Feedback: The (German) GameStar video got me much more excited about this game than your video. (FYI: I have not played civ in many years, although I picked up Civ6 in a recent Steam sale.)
Can it be triple X?
It seems they have imbedded territory distinctives, e.g. wild animals, in a discrete way permitting the player to enjoy the scenery and not get boggled by floating cell values. I hope there is a true Earth map. Procedurally generated maps are ok but its fun to see how the real world could have been with different cultures and players.
Like Civ? = Definitely!
Like Anno or Cities Skyline? =I'll pass
Like HumanKind? = Don't think so
Victoria II? = Yes!
I just hope it isn’t a soft game, civ vi kind of has that where even though you have things like dictatorship or armys, nothing really evil to bad happens, sure you can raze city’s, nuke city’s, but things like slavery or genocide is missing (besides from a passing remark from montezula about enslaving your people) I want a game where all ascoects of humanity are shown, good and bad
Make a video about Gilded Destiny.
One thing that is not really reflected well in some of these world games is scarcity of resources. Lack of resources often led to wars and migration. This could adversely effect the prosperity of your civilization more than anything.
you litterally don't have the resource if you don't get it by means of trade, or means of production, with out it you wouldn't be able to make good buildings, special buildings, or equipment for your military. You can easily have more men, and not enough weapons to make your armies and lose because you where not prepared due to the scarcity of resources. Therefore ransacking supplies becomes a thing in this game. See the iron node, and destroy it, no more iron tech units.
omg he made the ara ara joke i called in the last video xD well played
I hate simultaneous turns.
Looks like a Civ copycat BUT who said it is bad! If they will do better than Civ then it will be just a great game. More different Civ-like games the better.
After the 66,666 target what will follow? 69,420?
Underapprecitaed comment.
Yes this looks like a big promise that will be under delivered due to its ambitious scope
they got xbox backing money wise they should be good
@@jerico9263 so did sea of thieves, look at how that turned out
@@jerico9263yeah that’s what worries people who saw a game fall every time it has been backed by a big company (No Man’s Sky 2016 for example, myself included with PVZ Battle for Neighborville)
More like Anno 1800 than Cities Skylines & Civ 6
So what does Ara History Untold actually mean? They might want to rethink this name. It’s drawn out and doesn’t describe what the game is. Civilization and Humankind are a lot clearer in this regard.
I strongly agree with this. I've ignored like 5 videos on this game until this one, even though I love Civ and have played them all except the first. I eventually watched this one and am now interested in this game, but the name isn't doing it any favors.
@@armoredchimp I'm still very interested, it's exactly the kind of game I generally gravitate to. However, we all know how important naming and branding is and right off the bat they're hitting a foul ball. I strongly suspect this is a big reason why "Old World" does not have the player base that it deserves.
Ara ara~
meh ... wen Civ 7 🤔
its basically risk?? also age of wonders 4 can be BIG sooo ehhhh?
Ara ara....
Honestly even if the game ends up being trash or simply mid the fact theres more visible competition is a nice site to see
How much gas does your computer need to drive this huge bus?
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"Perfectly balanced." 😏
LESSGOOOOO ARA
ARAAAAAAAA!
@@JumboPixelYEAHHHH
It looks very cool, very different to civ more along the lines of CK in It's map design and I'm all for that. Humankind was too much like Civ this looks different
Xbox studios, that will be mainly optimized for playing with gamepad :-))
Like everyone else, here’s to hoping. 🤞🏼 Looks like it has potential, but we’ll see.
How times change. We’re losing hope with every failed release of a game. Just reading the comments here is a warzone of sadness. Of hyped games that died.
Sounds like a multiplayer focused game
I’ve been hoping that this game would be kind of like Age of Empires meets Civilization.
Why Ara History and not Ara ara history?
I wonder what the economy will be like? Specifically, are trade routes and so on going to be physically present as with Civ and Distant Worlds, or are they going to abstract it all behind the scenes?
What will war be like? I don’t think war vibes with their chill cities skyline esthetics.
One thing I don't like is when you are rushed thru ages and really don't get to experience each one for any real length.
It's kind of a weird feeling when the video all of a sudden shows a map with the name of your city in it.
Interesting ideas. I do hope they give it a nicer UI, from the screenshots it lacks character
Ara ara
0:57 what?
based off this video i think the problem is that the game will play itself too often only giving a single player an optimal choice. As they said migration is natural and not controlled by the player. While realistically it makes sense, in function it might take away control from the player. Same with resources you don't really have to play around resources in civ 6 but that's what makes its it fun you can play around anything you want. I feel like ara is going to force players to play around their surroundings too hard instead of letting them do what they want.
Based on the presentation, that appears to be intentional, not a mistake.
If the goal of this game is to share qualities of games like the Civ series but also give the game a deeper feel of simulation in the management of a civilizations growth, this is how it is done. You have to work with what you have. You can't conjure materials that do not exist in the area around you. This is how civilizations started in the past. Secondly, this does not appear to be aiming for the same play style that you are referencing. Actions will have restrictions and consequences, which is more than I can say for most Civilization based games I have come across. And third, you appear to have misunderstood the section of the video about migration. It is a natural thing with no direct or immediate control, yes. But you DO have ways to affect it. Aspects of your civilization that you can make desirable by comparison to others that boost or improve your rate of immigration. There may not be a hard number you are affecting, but that does not mean it is outside of your influence.
Migration sux I see what they did there.
ARA ARA ARA
Ara ara . .
Ara ara~
Looks very promising!
Its a Matrix simulation i got it.
Those Positive/Negative bonus status effects (for health, research, etc.) seems to be a bit bland and unimaginative - only + or - modifiers. Looking for more spicy bonus effects!
wonder if it will be on xbox
Will this only be out on Xbox? What about PC?
bruh, xbox game studio also makes PC games, all games are on PC
The UI looks like a mobile game. It needs to be polished to look more professional and elegant.
no MP mode?
Sappho??
after humankind i dont trust any of these civ games anymore.
and the next Civilization game has been announced for 2024 so.. i think this will die pretty quickly
these worlds look so alive compared to humankind and definitely FAR better than civs board game style I am interested in how they'll take this over to the warfare will we see devastated landscapes and how about cultural diversion are the cities and units going to look the same for each civilization like they do in civ or are they going to be different like humankind
Civ game with no victory conditions ? I'm out..
Hopefully, they do not sneak in woke political messages and characters. Just keep it normal, please.
You already have Sappho lmao
Prestige is everything
Maybe prestige is not the right word. Maybe power is better. Whether commercial or military or cultural it matters little what you have accomplished in the past. Its what you can muster in the moment that gets respect and attention.
Ara ara!
At first I heard the devs were indie guys with a history of working on other 4x titles. Then I learned that they are MS backed, which made me lose interest. We'll see what happens.
oxide games made ashes of the singularity and other games. And age of empires 4 was good.
Ara ara~
I'm already worried because they showed Greece being led by Sappho. For those who don't know, Sappho was an ancient Greek poet who is known for writing lesbian poetry. Gee, can't you think of anyone else in Greek history maybe worthy of leading them? So, woke alert; that'd be like having the US led by Dylan Mulvaney. Perhaps leadership is just a reflection of your goals, Sappho becomes your leader if you choose expression, but maybe you get Alexander if you take Greece down the military path. And if you take the US down the expression path, maybe you DO get Dylan...
cry about it
Ha! No crying here. I'm not a snow-flake "feral cat girl". I'll just ignore the game when it comes out. It's what happens when games, movies, and companies go woke, they quickly go broke. @@feralcatgirl
@@davidfinch7407 you are literally crying about it right here m8
This is about history, and why Sappho is a very bad (but woke) choice as the leader of a country. You are too ignorant of history I'm sure, or you wouldn't have said I was crying about it. I'm curious, do you think that any time some one disagrees with you, they are "crying" about it? Are you crying about my comments? Are you seriously that immature that this is your best argument? While I'm not crying about it, I am laughing about you calling yourself "feralcatgirl". You probably think it's edgy, yes? No, "m8", it's not. Really cringe, like you live alone with 20 cats and have a weight problem.
Why? Bill Herrington can lead US in this game and Rasputin (russian love machine ha ha) lead Russia. See no problem in it. It will be very original. I am sure Rasputin could’ve been a better leader than putin (current self-proclaimed “president” of Russia and a military criminal) and definitely not so bloodlusty.
Zzzz... another female strong leader & uplifted *beeep* no thanks not this time, the time before or next time. Its not like I ever dreamed about roleplaying as Sappho.
The cities look too spread out.
kinda looks like a mobile game tbh
Desperate for a new 4x game but no MP means no purchase for me. 4X is a genre where no new titles have all the features of their predecessors from 15 years ago in one package.
Yeah lost me there, shame. Sure once the devs see the player numbers they'll reconsider but it'll be too late, just like it was for HK (for different reasons)
> it's eXperementation because there is no single path to victory and maps are procedurally generated
So just like it is in most 4X games, and specifically like it was in Civilization since the very first one back in 1991? They just didn't have an idea to call it the 5th X, because the very term 4X wasn't invented yet.
> eXpression
So choosing pronouns and buying cosmetics?
Humankind is annoying when it is about making an army
No such thing as a Civ Killer
Firaxis is
is this an ad or what, i just watched an ad didnt i. commit unalive
I just hope they won't include bullshit climate propagnada mechanics like Civ VI did with it's idiotic apocalyptic mode that targets your cities and Humankind which just ends the game (which was absolutely abysmal)
“Bullshit climate propaganda” what’s wrong with that