Thanks @Vito Kuo, I'm going to continue working more improvements on the lighting of the videos in the upcoming months. Thanks for noticing and your feedback as it helps me know I am moving in the right path.
You got a really good stable beast mate, I really think its a great combo as I was testing the 7760 in that configuration. The i9 version in the 7560 isn't so good and would suggest people to skip it or go to the i7. I am really really happy with this year's new mobile Xeon!
I got a refurbished 7510 and is surprisingly stable, great performance and solid. I will love to upgrade to this one being reviewed. I'm amaze how great performance you can get from this 7xxx Dell series.
Sorry it took so long @Amm Mll it's be hectic for me outside of RUclips and I also didn't want this review to be comprised by speed as well. Thank you for being patience and hope it was useful for you in your decision =).
@@BsianTech yes sir. very definitive. I appreciate your efforts. I also appreciate your motivation to keep doing product reviews despite the average views. Also, I want you to know that those of us who follow your product reviews and live shows do so wholeheartedly because we are genuinely interested in the products you showcase and review and the Q and As
Awesome @Amm Mll so glad to hear that. Thank you for your heart felt words it means a lot to me when I read it. Your comment is now in printed form stuck to a little wall I have that reminds me to keep trucking through =) and to have really loyal supports is absolutely comforting and like endorphins. Keep healthy and safe mate, see you in the livestream =).
The internals are just spectacular. I found it very nice it newer XPS and newest "XPS-like" designwise Precisions, and it performs well too, it's sleek and stylist and still has the expendability almost of desktop PC... The proper mobile workstation, I love that series since I first owned M4600 back in 2011 or 2012 I think..
Thanks very much @danar j, I do remember yourself as one of my really early subscribers and its wonderful to have your continue support for my channel. I'm taking in suggestions and doing what I can to continue improve the videos limited by time and budget of course, soon we should hopefully see a bump up in the quality more =).
I went for Xeon. They had the high end one and a lower one. Went for the lower but still Xeon :) I did two harddrives with raid. Not sure if that was nessesary
Both of the new Xeons are really decent processors so you be happy with either one. Here is the funny story about raid, I might be wrong in my thinking and happy for someone who is more of an expert to correct me. I don't think RAID in NVMe drives are as important or as beneficial for performance as before when we had spin hard drives since the whole mechanics of accessing data on NMVe drives are so much quicker. I would only use RAID 1 for redundancy for NVMe drives then speed.
Fantastic review content and nice editing. I found your channel only after ordering a fully loaded 7760, due to a last minute decision to upgrade from the 7560. Your two 7760 vids have provided some very welcome reassurance, and the step up in edit and presentation of this most recent content is excellent. I’ll now sit back and chill in anticipation of the arrival of the new beast ! Thanks, and all the best for your channel 👍🏼
Thank you very much @DizzConnected on your detail feedback. I'm still got a lot of improving to do on the editing and filming of the videos for these reviews. Atm limited by time and knowledge since this is a thing I do in my off hours from my day job. Hopefully soon there should be hopefully a bump up in quality of the videos . Wow you have a 7560 and wanted to go to 7760 is it due wanting larger screen size or the 120hz 4k display or the extra M.2 slot? Congratulations on the new Beast, I'm interested to hear your experience on the 7760 when you had a bit of time on it.
@@BsianTech you’re welcome. Sorry, I meant that my original order spec was a fully loaded 7560, and I changed / upgraded the order at the very end of my build negotiation.
Hi again, Just wondering if you use a riser / laptop stand or cool mat with the 7760 for your office based use, and if so - which do you recommend ? I'm having difficulty finding one wide enough that doesn't look like a monstrosity, and many are not vented. I'm also planning on giving the 7760 keyboard a trial before considering a remote keyboard upgrade.... possibly a MX Keys to compliment my existing Master 3 mouse. regards, Dizz
@@tony24-u9x I just create the build, save it to cart and and send it to my Dell business manager who then calls me to assist. In my experience, the final price has always been MUCH lower than the cart price. Maybe the Australian build process is different, but my standard cart price was over AU$24k, and the final price was MUCH MUCH lower. And when I say MUCH, I mean MUUCCCHHH lower.
I recieved mine on Friday. It is certainly substantial & weighty ! Very nicely built. I've currently got it processing over 3500 ~8GB images from an aerial survey. The A5000 GPU cruised through the initial matching process where the GPU does the brunt of the work, however the CPU is now being called on @ 100% it's currently throttling at ~3.2-3.7 GHz and the fans are cranking. A little surprising, but somewhat reassuring that I made the last minute decision to change my order from the 7560 considering the difference in thermal performance shown in your respective reviews.
Great to hear you received your 7760, it definally a better choice to go with the thicker 7760/7560 over the 5560, once you get to the A3000 and above the thermal capablities of the 75xx/77xx start to really show it's true colors for stability in performance. Awesome to hear your feedback on this workstation on it's performance @DizzConnected !
Hello, I congratulate you for your excellent review, very complete and with very accurate comments, I liked that you are direct and do not try to be funny like other RUclipsrs, greetings from Mexico.
Thanks very much @cesarsaldana3429 and G'day from Australia. I try to maintain conciseness, I respect your time and others. Most my viewers are working professionals so we all time short. As I mostly an informative channel rather than entertainment, hopefully it has been a useful video for you to assist on your decision.
Thank you so much for your detailed review. Every time i need to search for a laptop i include your name with the name of the laptop straight away. Please always include This part " Build and Hinge " in every review you publishe beacuse it does matter for some people like me to see the degree of hinge opening " 16:30 minutes".
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You have the best review laptop channel! I love your detailed explanations, thank you for your work!
Nicely detailed and comprehensive analysis. I just ordered one of these for my home, as I'm recently retired. And seeing that this model is a year older now and discontinued the price was amazing. I'm going to be freelancing research work and I suppose this is overkill for my needs now, but it's good to have and not need it rather than need it and not have it.
I think the quality of the 720P webcam is quite good for business video conferencing. Of course your studio lighting made a difference too :-) Thanks for doing GREAT reviews 👍👌👏🙏
Cheers @John Kobes, great to hear feedback on the webcam. It does decent job just wish there was options for higher resolutions for the webcam to allow it to use beside video conferencing.
Good job as always! Question, will we have a comparison between last year and this year PC in terms of performance? Is the old one keeping up with the newer one?
Woah wow @Manuel Alcala you went to town on that Precision 7760, I can hear that unit laughing at what you going to try use it for so much power in there.
Hi, I bought the version with i9 11950h (same as xeon without ECC support +50€), A5000 and 128gb. I'm so happy, the fan noise is very good. I tested at the same time a 3ds max scene with a 150M polygon, a 200MB revit project with RPC, a 500MB photoshop file, adobe premier and many web browsers... All at the same time and working on 3ds max , high performance fan setting. Fan noise was never higher than room noise (37dB) for this productivity work, significantly better than my old laptop (RTX 2070, i7 9750h) and so much smoother. I don't regret this second choice, at first I would have preferred the HP fury G8, but the thermal management of this Precision is really perfect and the price is almost halved...
I have been waiting for this review for a while! So far, the only gripe that I have is the poor implementation of Nvidia Optimus by Dell. In Windows 10, with the iGPU enabled, even with no programs running on the dGPU, the dGPU is always on. This causes battery life to be extremely poor. I will dual boot with Linux (I have 2 drives) to see if Optimus works on Linux. Other than that admittedly annoying issue, there are no glaring problems with it. Everything about it just feels nice, which is what all desktop replacements should feel like.
Thanks for being really patience for this review @Zhong Ze, I have just being crazy loaded up to get these reviews out. As I was playing with the BIOS I did notice there is now hybrid graphics to use dgpu or integrated gpu or turn off integrated GPU off completely. It would be nice to have the ability to choose which software you like to run off integrated and which ones runs off dGPU.
@@BsianTech In Nvidia control panel, you can manually set programs to use the dGPU, but this sometimes causes the dGPU to be on even without those programs running.
@@vivek_v I believe that's an Intel i7/i9 11th and i7/i9 12th gen problem. They just keep using the dGPU, even on my Legion 7i 11800H, RTX 3070. Battery is only at 4 hours even in iGPU mode. I believe Dell does it better though than Lenovo when it comes to battery life.
@@ramouz I would say it's more of a driver issue than the hardware itself. I'm still having the issue but since my laptop is mainly a desktop replacement, I don't mind it.
@@vivek_v You might be on to something. If companies would optimise this better, along with working with NVIDIA, they might resolve this. Mine is a desktop replacement but I do occasionally use it unplugged.
Cheers @Mad Catter, as always really apprecate your continue support on my channel and also the 4k display does use the Dell PremierColor App which is pretty much presented in all the Precision and XPS line up this year.
This is a great Workstation ! The only problem with this machine that this a a Dell laptop. Every day another problem. they built great machines from the base line lab - but not pay attention to developing and fix common problems with their boards, bios, software and more. a lot of Dell's user's say that all around the web and everywhere. After my personal experience with Dell's I can say that their machines are good as a second laptops and not the primary one - this one that you need to be there for you every day and every moment. Dell's is the machines that you are need time and money to maintain and fix a lot if you want to enjoy them and this is the only reason that after 3 Dell's (that was top of the line Dell's Like XPS and Latitude) I made my change to other brands. No laptop is perfect but the laptop needs to serve you, not you need to serve the laptop.
Great review, what additional SSD card compnay do you advise and what company is your primary SSD and is it a must to have same company for all additional and primary? thank you.
Thank you for such detailed review! I would like to ask you about the thermals. What good cooled laptiops/mobile WSes do you know that have RTX3080/3080ti or A5000 card? I'm looking for CAD/DL mobile workstation and wondering should I choose real WS or gaming laptop and what will have reliable cooling.
Hi BsianDad, Which app are you you using to provide 100% constant load @ 10:54 ? I'd like to do a comparative test on my new 7760, as I'm seeing core temps hit 100C regularly, and speeds dropping to low-mid-3's GHz, with the machine elevated for max airflow. It will be good to check this performance against your results using the same load source. Regards, Dizz.
Hi @DizzConnected, I use Passmark BurnInTest to do the constant work loads. Also my 100% load I change the power the thermal scheme always to be best performance (under the dell Power manager).
I wouldn't be surprise if 2022 is 12th Gen upgrade but wait till mid year as usual as the Precisions are usually the performance versions of the processors and this year there going to be interesting lineup for the Precisions @alon so watch the space.
What a great review! Excellent work! Congratulations BsianDad! 💪😎 I was kind of sad about their battery performance, and also about the camera, even with the COVID-19 experience, and they still don't learn that we need a good camera and good studio microphones? I wonder if in the next update to the DELL PRECISION, they could include the touch screen option, even with their stylus for 2D drawing and modeling 3D designs. If they did, and they will continue to update and improve all the other components of the DELL PRECISION: They would have a great competitive advantage over other brands, such as the Asus ProArt Studiobook Pro 16 OLED, which included a rotary control on the keyboard. But I think, if the DELL PRECISION, apart from its future updates and component improvements: If it could come with the touch screen, and pencil to draw 2D and model 3D designs, and that its screen rotates 360 degrees it would be the monster of creative design and the productive profession!!! 😎👍
Wooouuu!!! DELL PRECISION with super processor, super RAM, super graphics card, super battery, plus 360 degree touch screen, and with stylus for 2D drawing and 3D modeling? DOES THAT EXIST?! I ALSO WANT!!!
Thanks @Alex Garcia appreciate the feedback. Battery life on these large mobile workstations are usually never amazing especially of this size. The dGPUs that can be configured in these large mobile workstations are usually the most power hungry component. The 17inch market are desktop replacements so these are usually tied down to mains power just portable from site to site really. A way to save power and get longer battery life is to turn off the dGPU in the BIOS if you aren't needing the graphical/compute power of the dGPU, which should give you significate battery life boost. As for the webcam I am 100% agree with you, a computer like this should even skip the 1080p and have a 4k webcam. The cost of this computer won't shy the people for the little extra cost, just give us the ability to choose it would be good. As for being a 2-in-1 it would be a dream and can see good professions who could take advantage of digital pen support, and would still be nice to have option for touch panel too in the next version of the precision 7xxx series.
I would want this as opposed to the macbook M1 max(which i ordered) i would need this for serious editing, can this handle it? I currently use 2 razer blade pro 17 6/8core with rtx 3080 and a threadripper
If you doing video editing I would stick with the Razer blade pro 18 that you have, it would be quicker than this laptop as you really don't need too much error stability for going to quadro video graphics chip. Save yourself the huge amount of money @JailBreak Overlander from purchasing this laptop that I don't see you need and put it into external thunderbolt hard drives or lager monitor or camera gear is better spend of cash.
Hi, I am curious if you will be doing a full review of the precision 5760, I am curious if the cooling is such that it does not throttle under full loading. thanks
Yes I will be doing a full review of both the 5760 and 5560. To quickly answer your question about throttling. Yes it still does under full load when the dGPU is engaged.
@@BsianTech Hi, I like the screen on the 5760. I will be curious if it comes close to the 7760 in performance under load or substantially reduced. Thanks
The screen is really nice in the 5760 but in terms of performance compare to 7760, it's not even close I am afraid. 7760 has rock stable high performance, the 5760 is more suited for burst speed performance for under 20 seconds and medium performance to minute and half in my opinion. 5xxx is more about looks and thin and weight. 7xxx is all about performance. With the 5xxx once the dgpu starts getting loades up it degrades the performance extremely quickly whereas the 7xxx if the dgpu is loaded up it barely effects it too much.
This all depends on how much you need a new computer? If you coming from two-three year old laptop, the performance in this is big increase and for me, if it saves a lot of time then its worth purchasing even the 2-3months wait. We won't see the next generation till June/July next year anyway so you still get good 6 months of big performance increase to save time.
Hey @bsiandad I just gave a quick look at the 7760 benchmarks against the 7750 of your videos. Great that you used the same tests so they are comparable :) To be honest I'm shocked! The 7750 of last year was not top tier, i-7 core and T1000 vs the Xeon 11th gen of this year and a rtx 4000 (!) of the 7760. Yet the benchmarks are not in favor of the newer version, quite the opposite despite the odds. This is a mobile workstation so it's meant to be used by professionals like engineers working on Catia, Creo and similar, and fps on specview of those softwares was terrible on the 7760 compared to the 7750. What do you think about it? I'm looking for a new PC and I need a workstation, to be honest I feel like going for the older brother is even better (and maybe cheaper) what are your suggestions? Peace and good job as always, you really are a reference point on these kind of matters 🖖🏻
Do you have any video on screen comparisons 7760 (1920 x 1080 vs 3840 x 2160) like to see how much they differ in IQ , also is there a scaling issue with app's using 3840 x 2160
please where can I get a refurbished or abroad-used version of Dell Precision 7760..the prices in Nigeria are just way off the hook..what is your take on this. Thanks Boss
Great video! How come a Quadro P5000 (Precision 7720) be a 16gb GPU and RTX A 3000 only 6GB ... Which one is better the P5000 or RTX A 3000? ... for 3d modeling and rendering?
If you after pure speed performance @Adb B then the Non-ECC RAM is what you are after. Both the ECC and Non-ECC RAM are 3200MHz but the Non-ECC can be boosted up to 3466MHz. ECC normally would sacrifice speed for stability and accuracy.
Non-ecc RAM is generally faster than ecc ram, but there is absolutely no point of the Xeon if you won't get ecc ram. The Xeon has no performance improvement over its Core counterparts.
@@abdessamadbouaicha3286 The price difference is also dependent on regions. I believe in the UK, it costs much less to upgrade to the higher spec components compared to the US, but the starting price is much higher. However, intel CPU's don't really care about RAM latency so since you have the Xeon, might as well use ECC ram in it.
Did the 4k screen have a lot of backlight bleed on your test unit? Mine came on Nov. 5th. and it was like the screen wasn't fully attached (could slip my fingernail between the bezel and screen almost the entire way around the screen). It went in to the service center right away due to other issues it was having. It came back and the metal plate above the ethernet port (midway) was "kinked" like someone took a damn screwdriver to it, the screen was still doing its thing and they didn't re-install the Dell support software suite that I had paid for. Dell QA/QC and service sucks for these $4,000+ workstations that come in packaging like they are straight out of a refurbished outlet...
Cheers Luis, is there other questions you have about the laptop that I might not have included in the review?
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Well, one clarification... there is an option for gen4 nvme ssd but my research says the chipset won't be able to use it so it will run at gen3 speeds, something I feel little dishonest from dell. Unfortunately too late for me since I bought it before knowing this...
Hi, I’ve purchased this laptop based on the unboxing and the in-depth review. Can you please suggest a docking station for this laptop? I use Ubuntu 20.04 and I want to connect 2 4K monitors at 60Hz
Great to hear you manage to get this beast and I hope you are finding it suits your needs. As for the docking station due to the large power requirements only the WD19DC/WD19DCS dock has the dual USB-C to fully support the charging requirements. The WD19DC/WD19DCS will also support the dual 2k @ 60Hz, here is the resolution table on which ports will work for the dual (www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-au/dell-wd19dcs-dock/wd19dcs_user_guide/display-resolution-table?guid=guid-cb54f38b-163a-41bf-8b2e-3e6f3835d2ea&lang=en-us). I hope that helps.
@@BsianTech Thanks for your response. It definitely is worth the investment. As an fyi, I’ve ordered and received the Xeon w-11955m processor, 128 GB RAM, 17.3” ips screen, nvidia rtx a5000 w/16 GB RAM. I only have the option of purchasing the W19DCS. Will this docking station work with a 2019 MacBook Pro and 2021 MacBook Pro as well?
Thinking of getting one of these for engineering during college (through school's discount). What are the internal temps of the cpu and gpu during load?
Hi, Thank you for this vidéo, it is a great test and I like your explanations. However i hesitate with the "asus Proart studio book pro 16 W7600" (same processeur and same GPU) a test is planned for the asus laptop ? It would be nice if i could compare. Thomas
is it possible to install additional 3x Sabrent Rocket Q 8TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280? or it's not compatible? on their website you can't even configure it to 16tb because max is 3x 4tb according to their website.
I´ve just got the DELL Presicion 7760and after a while the center of the keyboard become very hoy and the fan is really noisy, is that normal for this asset?
Have you checked the DPC latency on this model? I'm thinking to buy it for audio works so this test is critical to me, unfortunately can not find anything specific online.
I love my 7760. One problem, if you want Windows Hello camera to work you need to make sure and get the IR camera. I opted for the other one and found out does not work for facial recognition login.
There is something wrong/weird with the Superposition benchmark... my quadro mobile P5200 is very old and has 11k points in 1080p medium =( And A4000 only 2k?
Great review but damn, disappointing that A4000 only manages 5056 in Time Spy... that's lower than 3050Ti in many 800$ range laptops that scores 6000 points.
That doesn't make sense to be honest. I am trying out a ThinkPad P17 Gen 2 with RTX A4000 (115w and dynamic boost to 135w) and it's giving me pretty much equal results in gaming to my Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 6 with an RTX 3070. I'm interested in this Dell laptop, only because of the screen having 120hz, the speakers being better and potentially the keyboard as well (though I'd miss having the TrackPoint as I love those), but if performance isn't good, I will have to move on. I have a ThinkPad P16 on order, about to be shipped, RTX A4500, and it has a vapor chamber like my current Legion, so we'll see how that goes.
Seeing optometrist for better medical suggestions. If it's only the 7760 causing it here is few suggestions: 1. check the refresh rate is set to 60hz or higher as some displays in the 7760 can go 120hz to try help less flickering if under 60hz. 2. decrease the brightness or using night mode scheme in windows helps with less overall white on the screen. 3. Try out some anti/low blue light products like screen filters or glasses, from my experience with the anti-blue light glasses I have felt less eye strain.
@@BsianTech I am not on medication, my eyes are all normal. hence, I have seen and noticed whenever I look at not even using it that much but when I look at the screen my eyes hurts a lot. Nonetheless, when I look at my macbook, nothing happens to my eyes. So I knew it was the computer. But I will do as you requested. Thanks
You cover a lot BUT YOU SKIP one very important topic. Does th7760 have a key lighting or not. Me for example who often work also in dark as i am a cave man i want to see my keys.
Hi @Tann, all commerical laptops and mobile workstations have backlit keys as option, if you buying not directly from the manufacture then check the description on that unit to see if it has been already configured with backlit keys. If you buying this directly from Dell just make sure you have it configured with backlit keys the price difference to have this option or not is so small but when businesses buy these in bulk these small cost differences does add up hence the option for it.
Light in this review is much more comfortable! Really nice to see you keep making improvements!
Thanks @Vito Kuo, I'm going to continue working more improvements on the lighting of the videos in the upcoming months. Thanks for noticing and your feedback as it helps me know I am moving in the right path.
Ended up getting the Precision 7560. Very similar to your setup, Xeon 11th gen, 64gb RAM, A4000, 1TB HD with 4K screen. Beast of a machine!
You got a really good stable beast mate, I really think its a great combo as I was testing the 7760 in that configuration. The i9 version in the 7560 isn't so good and would suggest people to skip it or go to the i7. I am really really happy with this year's new mobile Xeon!
I got a refurbished 7510 and is surprisingly stable, great performance and solid. I will love to upgrade to this one being reviewed. I'm amaze how great performance you can get from this 7xxx Dell series.
thanks bro. thanks for the review mehnnn... I have been waiting for this review for 3 months now. At last you did it....thanks
Sorry it took so long @Amm Mll it's be hectic for me outside of RUclips and I also didn't want this review to be comprised by speed as well. Thank you for being patience and hope it was useful for you in your decision =).
@@BsianTech yes sir. very definitive. I appreciate your efforts. I also appreciate your motivation to keep doing product reviews despite the average views. Also, I want you to know that those of us who follow your product reviews and live shows do so wholeheartedly because we are genuinely interested in the products you showcase and review and the Q and As
Awesome @Amm Mll so glad to hear that. Thank you for your heart felt words it means a lot to me when I read it. Your comment is now in printed form stuck to a little wall I have that reminds me to keep trucking through =) and to have really loyal supports is absolutely comforting and like endorphins. Keep healthy and safe mate, see you in the livestream =).
The internals are just spectacular. I found it very nice it newer XPS and newest "XPS-like" designwise Precisions, and it performs well too, it's sleek and stylist and still has the expendability almost of desktop PC... The proper mobile workstation, I love that series since I first owned M4600 back in 2011 or 2012 I think..
your video quality greatly improved. I was one of the earlier subscribers congrats.
Thanks very much @danar j, I do remember yourself as one of my really early subscribers and its wonderful to have your continue support for my channel. I'm taking in suggestions and doing what I can to continue improve the videos limited by time and budget of course, soon we should hopefully see a bump up in the quality more =).
@@BsianTech yes keep reviewing business laptops you are unique.
I am waiting for my 7560 to arrive in the mail :) waiting impatiently (since I bought) for the review :)
Nice @Victor Martinez, the 7560 is so similar to the 7760, did you get the i9 version though?
I went for Xeon. They had the high end one and a lower one. Went for the lower but still Xeon :) I did two harddrives with raid. Not sure if that was nessesary
Both of the new Xeons are really decent processors so you be happy with either one. Here is the funny story about raid, I might be wrong in my thinking and happy for someone who is more of an expert to correct me. I don't think RAID in NVMe drives are as important or as beneficial for performance as before when we had spin hard drives since the whole mechanics of accessing data on NMVe drives are so much quicker. I would only use RAID 1 for redundancy for NVMe drives then speed.
Fantastic review content and nice editing. I found your channel only after ordering a fully loaded 7760, due to a last minute decision to upgrade from the 7560. Your two 7760 vids have provided some very welcome reassurance, and the step up in edit and presentation of this most recent content is excellent.
I’ll now sit back and chill in anticipation of the arrival of the new beast !
Thanks, and all the best for your channel 👍🏼
Thank you very much @DizzConnected on your detail feedback. I'm still got a lot of improving to do on the editing and filming of the videos for these reviews. Atm limited by time and knowledge since this is a thing I do in my off hours from my day job. Hopefully soon there should be hopefully a bump up in quality of the videos . Wow you have a 7560 and wanted to go to 7760 is it due wanting larger screen size or the 120hz 4k display or the extra M.2 slot?
Congratulations on the new Beast, I'm interested to hear your experience on the 7760 when you had a bit of time on it.
@@BsianTech you’re welcome.
Sorry, I meant that my original order spec was a fully loaded 7560, and I changed / upgraded the order at the very end of my build negotiation.
Oh kewl, well as long as you got a good deal on it as well. I'm in mid-process filming the 7560 now.
Hi again,
Just wondering if you use a riser / laptop stand or cool mat with the 7760 for your office based use, and if so - which do you recommend ?
I'm having difficulty finding one wide enough that doesn't look like a monstrosity, and many are not vented.
I'm also planning on giving the 7760 keyboard a trial before considering a remote keyboard upgrade.... possibly a MX Keys to compliment my existing Master 3 mouse.
regards,
Dizz
@@tony24-u9x I just create the build, save it to cart and and send it to my Dell business manager who then calls me to assist.
In my experience, the final price has always been MUCH lower than the cart price. Maybe the Australian build process is different, but my standard cart price was over AU$24k, and the final price was MUCH MUCH lower.
And when I say MUCH, I mean MUUCCCHHH lower.
I recieved mine on Friday.
It is certainly substantial & weighty !
Very nicely built.
I've currently got it processing over 3500 ~8GB images from an aerial survey.
The A5000 GPU cruised through the initial matching process where the GPU does the brunt of the work, however the CPU is now being called on @ 100% it's currently throttling at ~3.2-3.7 GHz and the fans are cranking.
A little surprising, but somewhat reassuring that I made the last minute decision to change my order from the 7560 considering the difference in thermal performance shown in your respective reviews.
Great to hear you received your 7760, it definally a better choice to go with the thicker 7760/7560 over the 5560, once you get to the A3000 and above the thermal capablities of the 75xx/77xx start to really show it's true colors for stability in performance. Awesome to hear your feedback on this workstation on it's performance @DizzConnected !
Brilliant comprehensive review. Thank you for all the work you put into this review
Great review! Thank you. I waited a long for your review on this Workstation.
Thanks @WilsonTechTV, I hope I didn't disappointed on the long wait.
I build my own 2 years ago and it’s incredible work station I do all my engineering stuffs easy and peasy 😎
Hello, I congratulate you for your excellent review, very complete and with very accurate comments, I liked that you are direct and do not try to be funny like other RUclipsrs, greetings from Mexico.
Thanks very much @cesarsaldana3429 and G'day from Australia. I try to maintain conciseness, I respect your time and others. Most my viewers are working professionals so we all time short. As I mostly an informative channel rather than entertainment, hopefully it has been a useful video for you to assist on your decision.
Excellent review, sir. I just got one of these in the mail from Dell and I'm looking forward to putting it on the race track.
Thank you so much for your detailed review. Every time i need to search for a laptop i include your name with the name of the laptop straight away.
Please always include This part " Build and Hinge " in every review you publishe beacuse it does matter for some people like me to see the degree of hinge opening " 16:30 minutes".
You have the best review laptop channel! I love your detailed explanations, thank you for your work!
I like before I watch thnx for the 7760 review
Wow haha thank you thank you @Abd B, the likes really does help me and thanks for being patience for the review.
Excellent detailed video, well made and informative. Thanks
Nicely detailed and comprehensive analysis. I just ordered one of these for my home, as I'm recently retired. And seeing that this model is a year older now and discontinued the price was amazing. I'm going to be freelancing research work and I suppose this is overkill for my needs now, but it's good to have and not need it rather than need it and not have it.
I always think the same way as well xD
I'm going to order mine the next week too, how this computer working for you after almost a year now?
I think the quality of the 720P webcam is quite good for business video conferencing. Of course your studio lighting made a difference too :-) Thanks for doing GREAT reviews 👍👌👏🙏
Cheers @John Kobes, great to hear feedback on the webcam. It does decent job just wish there was options for higher resolutions for the webcam to allow it to use beside video conferencing.
Good job as always! Question, will we have a comparison between last year and this year PC in terms of performance? Is the old one keeping up with the newer one?
Best yt channel ever! Thanks!
nice video, i bought one fully equipped, 128 gb ram, 8 tb hard disk (4x 2TB Gen 4), xeon, and nvidia rtx A5000, i'm waiting for the arrival
Woah wow @Manuel Alcala you went to town on that Precision 7760, I can hear that unit laughing at what you going to try use it for so much power in there.
@@BsianTech as Brain said , try to conquer the world
Best Detailed review. I mean no one goes to that details. Best video if you are looking detailed review.
Thanks very much @mohit pawar, I just wanted to give you all a good idea of this computer how it is so you can make a good decision :)
Hi,
I bought the version with i9 11950h (same as xeon without ECC support +50€), A5000 and 128gb. I'm so happy, the fan noise is very good. I tested at the same time a 3ds max scene with a 150M polygon, a 200MB revit project with RPC, a 500MB photoshop file, adobe premier and many web browsers... All at the same time and working on 3ds max , high performance fan setting. Fan noise was never higher than room noise (37dB) for this productivity work, significantly better than my old laptop (RTX 2070, i7 9750h) and so much smoother.
I don't regret this second choice, at first I would have preferred the HP fury G8, but the thermal management of this Precision is really perfect and the price is almost halved...
I have been waiting for this review for a while!
So far, the only gripe that I have is the poor implementation of Nvidia Optimus by Dell. In Windows 10, with the iGPU enabled, even with no programs running on the dGPU, the dGPU is always on. This causes battery life to be extremely poor. I will dual boot with Linux (I have 2 drives) to see if Optimus works on Linux.
Other than that admittedly annoying issue, there are no glaring problems with it. Everything about it just feels nice, which is what all desktop replacements should feel like.
Thanks for being really patience for this review @Zhong Ze, I have just being crazy loaded up to get these reviews out. As I was playing with the BIOS I did notice there is now hybrid graphics to use dgpu or integrated gpu or turn off integrated GPU off completely. It would be nice to have the ability to choose which software you like to run off integrated and which ones runs off dGPU.
@@BsianTech In Nvidia control panel, you can manually set programs to use the dGPU, but this sometimes causes the dGPU to be on even without those programs running.
@@vivek_v I believe that's an Intel i7/i9 11th and i7/i9 12th gen problem. They just keep using the dGPU, even on my Legion 7i 11800H, RTX 3070. Battery is only at 4 hours even in iGPU mode. I believe Dell does it better though than Lenovo when it comes to battery life.
@@ramouz I would say it's more of a driver issue than the hardware itself. I'm still having the issue but since my laptop is mainly a desktop replacement, I don't mind it.
@@vivek_v You might be on to something. If companies would optimise this better, along with working with NVIDIA, they might resolve this. Mine is a desktop replacement but I do occasionally use it unplugged.
Hi great review! Could you review the HP Z Book Fury 17? Thank you very much for your review
I am in the works on getting HPs back on the channel and the ZBooks are high on my list to review.
Excellent and comprehensive review, thanks! Can I ask, does this 4k configured machine use the Dell Precision Colour app like the 4k xps line?
Cheers @Mad Catter, as always really apprecate your continue support on my channel and also the 4k display does use the Dell PremierColor App which is pretty much presented in all the Precision and XPS line up this year.
This is a great Workstation ! The only problem with this machine that this a a Dell laptop. Every day another problem. they built great machines from the base line lab - but not pay attention to developing and fix common problems with their boards, bios, software and more. a lot of Dell's user's say that all around the web and everywhere. After my personal experience with Dell's I can say that their machines are good as a second laptops and not the primary one - this one that you need to be there for you every day and every moment. Dell's is the machines that you are need time and money to maintain and fix a lot if you want to enjoy them and this is the only reason that after 3 Dell's (that was top of the line Dell's Like XPS and Latitude) I made my change to other brands. No laptop is perfect but the laptop needs to serve you, not you need to serve the laptop.
I definetly have to get this one, I need a fast one to work with my audio production.
Really nice job, thanks
Great review, what additional SSD card compnay do you advise and what company is your primary SSD and is it a must to have same company for all additional and primary? thank you.
Thank you for such detailed review! I would like to ask you about the thermals. What good cooled laptiops/mobile WSes do you know that have RTX3080/3080ti or A5000 card? I'm looking for CAD/DL mobile workstation and wondering should I choose real WS or gaming laptop and what will have reliable cooling.
Hi BsianDad,
Which app are you you using to provide 100% constant load @ 10:54 ?
I'd like to do a comparative test on my new 7760, as I'm seeing core temps hit 100C regularly, and speeds dropping to low-mid-3's GHz, with the machine elevated for max airflow.
It will be good to check this performance against your results using the same load source.
Regards, Dizz.
Hi @DizzConnected, I use Passmark BurnInTest to do the constant work loads. Also my 100% load I change the power the thermal scheme always to be best performance (under the dell Power manager).
As usual, great review.
Any idea when Dell is releasing a 12th gen upgrade?
I can't wait to replace my old m6800...
I wouldn't be surprise if 2022 is 12th Gen upgrade but wait till mid year as usual as the Precisions are usually the performance versions of the processors and this year there going to be interesting lineup for the Precisions @alon so watch the space.
What a great review! Excellent work! Congratulations BsianDad! 💪😎
I was kind of sad about their battery performance, and also about the camera, even with the COVID-19 experience, and they still don't learn that we need a good camera and good studio microphones?
I wonder if in the next update to the DELL PRECISION, they could include the touch screen option, even with their stylus for 2D drawing and modeling 3D designs.
If they did, and they will continue to update and improve all the other components of the DELL PRECISION: They would have a great competitive advantage over other brands, such as the Asus ProArt Studiobook Pro 16 OLED, which included a rotary control on the keyboard.
But I think, if the DELL PRECISION, apart from its future updates and component improvements: If it could come with the touch screen, and pencil to draw 2D and model 3D designs, and that its screen rotates 360 degrees it would be the monster of creative design and the productive profession!!! 😎👍
Wooouuu!!! DELL PRECISION with super processor, super RAM, super graphics card, super battery, plus 360 degree touch screen, and with stylus for 2D drawing and 3D modeling?
DOES THAT EXIST?!
I ALSO WANT!!!
Thanks @Alex Garcia appreciate the feedback. Battery life on these large mobile workstations are usually never amazing especially of this size. The dGPUs that can be configured in these large mobile workstations are usually the most power hungry component. The 17inch market are desktop replacements so these are usually tied down to mains power just portable from site to site really. A way to save power and get longer battery life is to turn off the dGPU in the BIOS if you aren't needing the graphical/compute power of the dGPU, which should give you significate battery life boost.
As for the webcam I am 100% agree with you, a computer like this should even skip the 1080p and have a 4k webcam. The cost of this computer won't shy the people for the little extra cost, just give us the ability to choose it would be good.
As for being a 2-in-1 it would be a dream and can see good professions who could take advantage of digital pen support, and would still be nice to have option for touch panel too in the next version of the precision 7xxx series.
I would want this as opposed to the macbook M1 max(which i ordered) i would need this for serious editing, can this handle it? I currently use 2 razer blade pro 17 6/8core with rtx 3080 and a threadripper
If you doing video editing I would stick with the Razer blade pro 18 that you have, it would be quicker than this laptop as you really don't need too much error stability for going to quadro video graphics chip. Save yourself the huge amount of money @JailBreak Overlander from purchasing this laptop that I don't see you need and put it into external thunderbolt hard drives or lager monitor or camera gear is better spend of cash.
@@BsianTech Thanks For replying B I appreciate the input. Im going to try to macbook pro max as I already ordered it up.
All good, love to hear your experience on the M1 max MBP @JailBreak Overlander
Hi, I am curious if you will be doing a full review of the precision 5760, I am curious if the cooling is such that it does not throttle under full loading.
thanks
Yes I will be doing a full review of both the 5760 and 5560. To quickly answer your question about throttling. Yes it still does under full load when the dGPU is engaged.
@@BsianTech Hi, I like the screen on the 5760. I will be curious if it comes close to the 7760 in performance under load or substantially reduced. Thanks
The screen is really nice in the 5760 but in terms of performance compare to 7760, it's not even close I am afraid. 7760 has rock stable high performance, the 5760 is more suited for burst speed performance for under 20 seconds and medium performance to minute and half in my opinion. 5xxx is more about looks and thin and weight. 7xxx is all about performance. With the 5xxx once the dgpu starts getting loades up it degrades the performance extremely quickly whereas the 7xxx if the dgpu is loaded up it barely effects it too much.
With supply shortages and wait times being so long, do you think it's worth just waiting until the spring to order the next generation of this?
This all depends on how much you need a new computer? If you coming from two-three year old laptop, the performance in this is big increase and for me, if it saves a lot of time then its worth purchasing even the 2-3months wait. We won't see the next generation till June/July next year anyway so you still get good 6 months of big performance increase to save time.
Hey @bsiandad I just gave a quick look at the 7760 benchmarks against the 7750 of your videos. Great that you used the same tests so they are comparable :)
To be honest I'm shocked! The 7750 of last year was not top tier, i-7 core and T1000 vs the Xeon 11th gen of this year and a rtx 4000 (!) of the 7760. Yet the benchmarks are not in favor of the newer version, quite the opposite despite the odds. This is a mobile workstation so it's meant to be used by professionals like engineers working on Catia, Creo and similar, and fps on specview of those softwares was terrible on the 7760 compared to the 7750. What do you think about it? I'm looking for a new PC and I need a workstation, to be honest I feel like going for the older brother is even better (and maybe cheaper) what are your suggestions?
Peace and good job as always, you really are a reference point on these kind of matters 🖖🏻
Do you have any video on screen comparisons 7760 (1920 x 1080 vs 3840 x 2160) like to see how much they differ in IQ , also is there a scaling issue with app's using 3840 x 2160
Does the 7770 offer IPS UHD display?
please where can I get a refurbished or abroad-used version of Dell Precision 7760..the prices in Nigeria are just way off the hook..what is your take on this. Thanks Boss
I've you recently used virtualbox on 120hz or more? If so, are the virtual machines smoother?
Great video!
How come a Quadro P5000 (Precision 7720) be a 16gb GPU and RTX A 3000 only 6GB ... Which one is better the P5000 or RTX A 3000? ... for 3d modeling and rendering?
Thanks, the RTX A3000 is far superior and faster than the P5000.
Hi, is combining xeon with non-ecc ram better performance or with ecc? thx
If you after pure speed performance @Adb B then the Non-ECC RAM is what you are after. Both the ECC and Non-ECC RAM are 3200MHz but the Non-ECC can be boosted up to 3466MHz. ECC normally would sacrifice speed for stability and accuracy.
@@BsianTech thank you
Non-ecc RAM is generally faster than ecc ram, but there is absolutely no point of the Xeon if you won't get ecc ram. The Xeon has no performance improvement over its Core counterparts.
@@vivek_v I got the xeon because it does not have a big difference in price with the i9
@@abdessamadbouaicha3286 The price difference is also dependent on regions. I believe in the UK, it costs much less to upgrade to the higher spec components compared to the US, but the starting price is much higher.
However, intel CPU's don't really care about RAM latency so since you have the Xeon, might as well use ECC ram in it.
Well done! Thanks!
Did the 4k screen have a lot of backlight bleed on your test unit? Mine came on Nov. 5th. and it was like the screen wasn't fully attached (could slip my fingernail between the bezel and screen almost the entire way around the screen). It went in to the service center right away due to other issues it was having. It came back and the metal plate above the ethernet port (midway) was "kinked" like someone took a damn screwdriver to it, the screen was still doing its thing and they didn't re-install the Dell support software suite that I had paid for. Dell QA/QC and service sucks for these $4,000+ workstations that come in packaging like they are straight out of a refurbished outlet...
By the way, your reviews are excellent! Keep up the good work.
Please can PRECISION 7760 XEON W-11955M 64GB RAM 4TB SSD 17.3 FHD A4000 be used to edit 4K footage?
Shouldn't have issue editing 4k footage with those high specs on a 7760. @Felix Ademola.
Does it contain Nickel or Cobolt on any of the surface materials, ie allergy friendly?
Yei!!! Love it ♥
Cheers Luis, is there other questions you have about the laptop that I might not have included in the review?
Well, one clarification... there is an option for gen4 nvme ssd but my research says the chipset won't be able to use it so it will run at gen3 speeds, something I feel little dishonest from dell. Unfortunately too late for me since I bought it before knowing this...
Hi, I’ve purchased this laptop based on the unboxing and the in-depth review. Can you please suggest a docking station for this laptop? I use Ubuntu 20.04 and I want to connect 2 4K monitors at 60Hz
Great to hear you manage to get this beast and I hope you are finding it suits your needs. As for the docking station due to the large power requirements only the WD19DC/WD19DCS dock has the dual USB-C to fully support the charging requirements. The WD19DC/WD19DCS will also support the dual 2k @ 60Hz, here is the resolution table on which ports will work for the dual (www.dell.com/support/manuals/en-au/dell-wd19dcs-dock/wd19dcs_user_guide/display-resolution-table?guid=guid-cb54f38b-163a-41bf-8b2e-3e6f3835d2ea&lang=en-us). I hope that helps.
@@BsianTech
Thanks for your response. It definitely is worth the investment. As an fyi, I’ve ordered and received the Xeon w-11955m processor, 128 GB RAM, 17.3” ips screen, nvidia rtx a5000 w/16 GB RAM.
I only have the option of purchasing the W19DCS. Will this docking station work with a 2019 MacBook Pro and 2021 MacBook Pro as well?
Thinking of getting one of these for engineering during college (through school's discount). What are the internal temps of the cpu and gpu during load?
Hi,
Thank you for this vidéo, it is a great test and I like your explanations. However i hesitate with the "asus Proart studio book pro 16 W7600" (same processeur and same GPU) a test is planned for the asus laptop ? It would be nice if i could compare.
Thomas
Sir, can you please review 7780 Precision mobile work station.
I would love to myself but Dell do not have this for me, it's been very difficult to get Precisions the last year.
is it a vapor chamber, or just standard heatpipe only?
is it possible to install additional 3x Sabrent Rocket Q 8TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280? or it's not compatible? on their website you can't even configure it to 16tb because max is 3x 4tb according to their website.
I´ve just got the DELL Presicion 7760and after a while the center of the keyboard become very hoy and the fan is really noisy, is that normal for this asset?
Have you checked the DPC latency on this model? I'm thinking to buy it for audio works so this test is critical to me, unfortunately can not find anything specific online.
I'm taking a guess you talking about the LatencyMon test?
@@BsianTech Yes sir, that's for sure :)
I love my 7760. One problem, if you want Windows Hello camera to work you need to make sure and get the IR camera. I opted for the other one and found out does not work for facial recognition login.
What is the price? That remains the most important aspect, right?
There is something wrong/weird with the Superposition benchmark... my quadro mobile P5200 is very old and has 11k points in 1080p medium =( And A4000 only 2k?
Great review but damn, disappointing that A4000 only manages 5056 in Time Spy... that's lower than 3050Ti in many 800$ range laptops that scores 6000 points.
That doesn't make sense to be honest. I am trying out a ThinkPad P17 Gen 2 with RTX A4000 (115w and dynamic boost to 135w) and it's giving me pretty much equal results in gaming to my Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 6 with an RTX 3070. I'm interested in this Dell laptop, only because of the screen having 120hz, the speakers being better and potentially the keyboard as well (though I'd miss having the TrackPoint as I love those), but if performance isn't good, I will have to move on. I have a ThinkPad P16 on order, about to be shipped, RTX A4500, and it has a vapor chamber like my current Legion, so we'll see how that goes.
I like it a lot. But the Precision 7760 is hell expensive! I think I'm gonna buy one with an i7 11800H and an Nvidia A3000.
Hello Bsian Tech, could you help me out with this, I have the 7760 precision and whenever I use it my eye hurts extremely . What shall I do ?
Seeing optometrist for better medical suggestions. If it's only the 7760 causing it here is few suggestions: 1. check the refresh rate is set to 60hz or higher as some displays in the 7760 can go 120hz to try help less flickering if under 60hz. 2. decrease the brightness or using night mode scheme in windows helps with less overall white on the screen. 3. Try out some anti/low blue light products like screen filters or glasses, from my experience with the anti-blue light glasses I have felt less eye strain.
@@BsianTech Thank you so much brother. I will follow up exactly and keep you posted.
@@BsianTech I am not on medication, my eyes are all normal. hence, I have seen and noticed whenever I look at not even using it that much but when I look at the screen my eyes hurts a lot. Nonetheless, when I look at my macbook, nothing happens to my eyes. So I knew it was the computer. But I will do as you requested. Thanks
Is this a Chinese Australian accent? Neat!!
Good job 👍🇹🇷
does the ssd on this have pcie4 support？
The primary slot yes, the other three are pcie3
I bought Precision 7760 but it has a buzzing noise from RJ45 jack. Cannot be solved and very annoying. I do not recommend buying this laptop.
Bello!
You cover a lot BUT YOU SKIP one very important topic. Does th7760 have a key lighting or not. Me for example who often work also in dark as i am a cave man i want to see my keys.
Hi @Tann, all commerical laptops and mobile workstations have backlit keys as option, if you buying not directly from the manufacture then check the description on that unit to see if it has been already configured with backlit keys. If you buying this directly from Dell just make sure you have it configured with backlit keys the price difference to have this option or not is so small but when businesses buy these in bulk these small cost differences does add up hence the option for it.