Weighs 4500lbs gets 13 mpg city on a good day only makes 150 horse power vinyl roof that cracked back in 94' instant death against any car that weighs even 3000lbs because "other cars are my crumple zone" even though that just means instant death.
You don't see many companies take pride and put time into little things like this anymore. Now you'd get a piece of paper that says "Take a selfie with your new car and if you're lucky enough for us to retweet it we'll send you a QR code that gives you a 2 page manual on how to start the car and warns you not to drink the fluids."
+Mr Everything I think these older cars have way better engineering than the newer cars. The engineering in these new modern day cars are so stupid that they don't even come with a transmission dipstick anymore so it's impossible to change the ATF yourself. The dealership are the only ones with the tools to work on them. By the way this is an awesome video.
+Robert Di Giovanni That "No ATF Dipstick" is a reason why I'm NOT looking for a Caravan newer than 2007 for my mother. I want to change the ATF, darn it.
I have an '89 LX. Impractical to watch nowadays because this is from the early model Crown Vics, but '90 really was an improvement over the previous year in terms of safety due to the completely updated dashboard. As for the car itself, it is indeed comfortable to ride, but this vehicle (and the Caprice) was also a powerhouse for police and taxi cars. The 5.0L V8 unfortunately is very underpowered when stock, but it certainly does have torque.
The headrests were LESS safe than the headrests in the 88/89 CV LX and Grand Marquis. The stereo was downgraded to 4 speakers from 6 with the Premium and High Level Sound System. In Canada, the rear defroster was standard as it was mandated. Bumper rub strips and guards and power door locks with power trunk release were standard. In Canada, the 351 was a $185 RPO. The Trailer Tow III Package was a $550 BARGAIN. They did not mention the available Insta-Clear windscreen, either.
What dealers should have been told: "Did you know the panther platform Crown Victoria will continued to be made for several decades, and that even after they are not being made anymore, people will still be driving them for decades more?"
I own a '98 Crown Vic LX, and I have to say - I've driven many cars, and this is easily the best ride. Bought it in June with 85,000 miles on it (previous owners didn't drive it much at all), and for a 16 year old car, it's outstanding. Aside from some mechanical issues that had to be addressed after buying it (regular maintenance, a blown ABS sensor, and a heater core problem - the latter of which was the most expensive fix), it runs like a dream. The V8 is silent during regular driving, but roars when you step the gas, which is awesome. Shitty gas mileage, yeah, but the price of gas tanked, and my last car didn't get great mileage either so it's not a concern right now. Exceptionally smooth and comfortable ride. The only underlying issue I've had with it is that the steering is very light and airy - it truly is a boat on wheels, turns are wide and slow. But I'm always the one that ends up driving people around when there's a group - can't beat the six-passenger seating, I can sit more people than some of my friends, who own SUV's. Aside from maybe modifying the engine for more power, the only thing I'm planning on doing to modernize it is throw in a new radio. That's really all it needs.
I had a 94 Lincoln Town Car. I loved that car. Btw i was 21 years old at the time. I was the only one among my friends who had a car large enough to transport us all to and from the clubs. My friends referred to my car as "The great white whale". I still miss that car. Rear wheel drive, v8 engine, and body on frame construction!
+JustaKoreanGuy Remember the Windsor V8 was quite abit de-tuned from it's real power to make it more pleasent to drive as a big saloon car. It might not have been much on hp by todays standards (or even by the standards of 1990 I mean a Golf GTI coould just about get that with a 1.8 engine), but the torque is what would have made up for it I think, the pulling power would've probably been more than adequate for swift progress if not outright banshee or maintaining a high-speed. Plus a big V8 hums along at something like 1-1500rpm at 60-70mph on the highway so it's barely stressed at all so that what they were aiming for, comfortable and relaxed, if not rocketship driving, it is a mass-produced car for a wide range of people with different uses.
@@Samspianopage Yeah, it's a low RPM but adequate torque kind of car. That is part of the design, to give it comfortable performance to accomodate the soft ride. That is also what makes them have the gas mileage they have compared to other V8 cars. That low RPM keeps the fuel economy from being a total gas guzzler by then standards and also is in part why the motor on them are so durable. This also applies to the aero/whale generation Crown Victorias as well.
When he talked about those nitrogen shocks. I will tell you it did make those LX models ride great. These cars were easy to work on. The only real issue on some and particularly the color shown here was the painted peeled. Wait, then there was the antifreeze oil leak from the exhaust manifold, then the little rubber piece that broke for that cable that went from the throttle to the transmission, then the heater control cable,, then the plug into the alternator burned up, then the rear axle seals leaked, then the power windows stopped working. LOL But I still love these cars and currently own a 2011 Crown Victoria now. This 1990 and 1989 model were great.
Loved my 89 ltd. The look and feel of the big square body and the style was to cool. 150hp though so sad but I guess 180mpg was really good for a sedan in the 80’s I bet a gear head could get it around 220-250 though. New cars just don’t look cool to me
I always wanted to own a 88-91 but never did. I had a 87 and 93 Crown Vics. Now I have a 06 Grand Marquis. Since the Crown Vic and Marquis are long gone, this will be my last American car.
@@patcurrie9888 Not really. The became round in 1992. The 1989 and older had a square dash like that, but was taken from the original 1979 model, which looked thin and woody.
ugh the stupid people in the comment section going on about "Horsepower this! and Horsepower that!" this car had good torque for pulling around. Jay Leno had an old steamcar with only a 100 horsepower but 1000 foot Lbs of torque. That steamcar was fast and was able to keep up with traffic very well. Shows that horsepower isn't everything.
I have one of those cars in my garage, the station wagon. I pulled the 302 engine, rebuilt it (lots of mods but still 302) with different cam and used a Street Demon card 4 bbl. I get 15 mpg around town with the A/C on. And 0 - 60 in 10.6 seconds.
@@constantinlungu7515 Yes, they were built very reliable (police cars). BUT... any car over 25 years old will most likely have electrical problems relays, computers, wires, ignition, coil, and so on). However the parts are low cost. First get a compression test and full inspection done before you but the time and money into it. Good luck.
@InfiniteMushroom Now you mention it, it took time to get used to. I learned to play the throttle to make the shifts more fluid. I guess some automatics deliver a constant surge when floored, and others slam the gears.
@anandecy3035 Thats true but the people who bought a Lexus or Mercedes were paying extra for that power. A Lexus LS400 was over $40,000 and the Crown Vic was about half that. They're not in the same category, and are not competing for the same buyers. So you can't compare them
Me gusta el carro un Ford LTD Crown Victoria 1990; parecido al qué tiene Erasmo Padilla (José José); le hizo competencia al Chevrolet Caprice Classic; un excelente automóvil; la última edición del Ford LTD Crown Victoria; saludos y buenos días.
@InfiniteMushroom Interesting story. Sure about the lock-up? I think for these full size Fords it is: Reverse: slush 1st: slush 2nd: slush 3rd: slush + lock-up 4th: lock-up. At least, that's in my '86 GM. Doubt CV's were different...
I have an '87 Crown Victoria and trust me it's exactly the same. The AOD transmission was great for reliability but until the torque converter locked up it was like trying to accelerate through oatmeal. Just very slushy transmissions. I also notice that they tend to try and get to 3rd gear as quickly as they can. If I accelerate moderately it'll hit 2nd gear at like 15 MPH and 3rd around 30 MPH, hold 3rd for a while, lock up the converter around 45 MPH and overdrive around 50. But accelerating feels something like "1...2...3...........Lockup......4.
A question I have is why could'nt Ford have a tilt wheel in the Mustang in 1990 but was available in the Crown VIctoria that same model year? My dad had a 1990 Mustang and 1990 Crown Victoria indentical to the one in the video!
They said the core buyer was older at the desk, not all older buyers are going to retirement villages, folks back then and a few under 55 appreciated a quiet, comfy V8 ride. You'll get there some day.
@@patcurrie9888 I was just kidding. a friend of mine had one. they ride and drive nice. and with that 302 under the hood, go fast parts are readily available
Why did Ford stop building the best selling car ever , the Crown Victoria? Ford made a poor decision on that one That was what around 2010 ? They quit making these
اذا انت بالسعوديه دلني على واحد يبيع قطع غياره عجزت احصلها هنا لو عندك تلفون او رقم اكون شاكر لك جزيل الشكر حتى اللي معي نظيف لكن خارجيا فقط ميكانيكا يبي له شغل واجد
Standard halogen headlights? Well ofc you wouldn’t put tungstens in. And I mean LEDs were not nearly bright enough to be headlights back then, and I doubt they’d brag about having halogen over HID metal halides. It was weird how he phrased that.
5:09 A key reason NOT to buy is the instrument panel. This horizontal speedometer makes absolutely no sense, 'cause the numbers are too close together in the range of usable speeds, making them difficult to read. Excellent car, though.
I would buy this over any nowadays car.
Sure its outdated, but its so slick.
Same. I would rather have someghing like ghis than something modern.
Weighs 4500lbs gets 13 mpg city on a good day only makes 150 horse power vinyl roof that cracked back in 94' instant death against any car that weighs even 3000lbs because "other cars are my crumple zone" even though that just means instant death.
Horsepower isn't everything. This car has a LOT of torque in it's 5 liter. Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.
Apple_Marty_CZ I’m buying a 91 tomorrow !
Exactly. Performance isn't always everything. It's about how nice the car looks. I have an '89, and people loved it.
You don't see many companies take pride and put time into little things like this anymore. Now you'd get a piece of paper that says "Take a selfie with your new car and if you're lucky enough for us to retweet it we'll send you a QR code that gives you a 2 page manual on how to start the car and warns you not to drink the fluids."
+Mr Everything I think these older cars have way better engineering than the newer cars. The engineering in these new modern day cars are so stupid that they don't even come with a transmission dipstick anymore so it's impossible to change the ATF yourself. The dealership are the only ones with the tools to work on them. By the way this is an awesome video.
+Robert Di Giovanni That "No ATF Dipstick" is a reason why I'm NOT looking for a Caravan newer than 2007 for my mother. I want to change the ATF, darn it.
The early 90s Crown Vic is by far my favorite body style/design of all the crown vics.
Beautiful car. One of the better years
i wish they still made cars like this
I have an '89 LX. Impractical to watch nowadays because this is from the early model Crown Vics, but '90 really was an improvement over the previous year in terms of safety due to the completely updated dashboard.
As for the car itself, it is indeed comfortable to ride, but this vehicle (and the Caprice) was also a powerhouse for police and taxi cars. The 5.0L V8 unfortunately is very underpowered when stock, but it certainly does have torque.
I love that it can tow the same as a ranger or base f150
I bought my 1990 CV LTD 1 owner today and am watching this :)
Probably could survive a nuke. I wish cars were built this well today.
The fact I was alive when these cars were new makes me feel quite old.
I own a 1991, the last year for the LTD.
Me 2
I own a 1990 and still the best car I've owned
Definitely last of the original version of the car.
These are very good cars. I still see them being driven on a daily basis.
"speaking of loads"
Chris Gargano LOADS
lol!!
'Big Load - Wet Floor'
The headrests were LESS safe than the headrests in the 88/89 CV LX and Grand Marquis. The stereo was downgraded to 4 speakers from 6 with the Premium and High Level Sound System. In Canada, the rear defroster was standard as it was mandated. Bumper rub strips and guards and power door locks with power trunk release were standard. In Canada, the 351 was a $185 RPO. The Trailer Tow III Package was a $550 BARGAIN. They did not mention the available Insta-Clear windscreen, either.
1990 and 1991 were the last of the wagons The 1992-2010 didn't offer a wagon
What dealers should have been told: "Did you know the panther platform Crown Victoria will continued to be made for several decades, and that even after they are not being made anymore, people will still be driving them for decades more?"
they knew lol
I own a 2000 crown victoria police interceptor best car i had since my 65 T-Bird!
Can you post a vid of your vic
The best ford body style
i wish auto maker bring back these type of cars
I own a '98 Crown Vic LX, and I have to say - I've driven many cars, and this is easily the best ride. Bought it in June with 85,000 miles on it (previous owners didn't drive it much at all), and for a 16 year old car, it's outstanding. Aside from some mechanical issues that had to be addressed after buying it (regular maintenance, a blown ABS sensor, and a heater core problem - the latter of which was the most expensive fix), it runs like a dream. The V8 is silent during regular driving, but roars when you step the gas, which is awesome. Shitty gas mileage, yeah, but the price of gas tanked, and my last car didn't get great mileage either so it's not a concern right now. Exceptionally smooth and comfortable ride. The only underlying issue I've had with it is that the steering is very light and airy - it truly is a boat on wheels, turns are wide and slow. But I'm always the one that ends up driving people around when there's a group - can't beat the six-passenger seating, I can sit more people than some of my friends, who own SUV's. Aside from maybe modifying the engine for more power, the only thing I'm planning on doing to modernize it is throw in a new radio. That's really all it needs.
I miss 15" wheels.. I bet once the first owner sold it someone put 24's on it and those damn spinners.
They ride so nice. 15" wheels and tires.
I have a 1989 Crown Victoria LX with 148,000 miles these cars don't died!
Sweet! What color is it?
@@ironinquisitor3656 blue
This video is awesome mainly because the guy giving the specs on the car is the exact guy I would picture selling these cars back in 1990
This video is from 1989, but ok
I had a 94 Lincoln Town Car. I loved that car. Btw i was 21 years old at the time. I was the only one among my friends who had a car large enough to transport us all to and from the clubs. My friends referred to my car as "The great white whale". I still miss that car. Rear wheel drive, v8 engine, and body on frame construction!
5.0 L V8 delivers 150 hp for "good" acceleration lmfao. I love my 99 base Vic.
+JustaKoreanGuy Remember the Windsor V8 was quite abit de-tuned from it's real power to make it more pleasent to drive as a big saloon car. It might not have been much on hp by todays standards (or even by the standards of 1990 I mean a Golf GTI coould just about get that with a 1.8 engine), but the torque is what would have made up for it I think, the pulling power would've probably been more than adequate for swift progress if not outright banshee or maintaining a high-speed. Plus a big V8 hums along at something like 1-1500rpm at 60-70mph on the highway so it's barely stressed at all so that what they were aiming for, comfortable and relaxed, if not rocketship driving, it is a mass-produced car for a wide range of people with different uses.
99 u mean the ones thr eject spark plugs and thr intake manifold cracks leaking fluid oooh yea those 99s lol
Right about the torque. That's what made these big vehicles nice to drive around town.
@@Samspianopage Yeah, it's a low RPM but adequate torque kind of car. That is part of the design, to give it comfortable performance to accomodate the soft ride. That is also what makes them have the gas mileage they have compared to other V8 cars. That low RPM keeps the fuel economy from being a total gas guzzler by then standards and also is in part why the motor on them are so durable. This also applies to the aero/whale generation Crown Victorias as well.
These were quite torquey. The 4.6 was more horsey but had to have the wide ratio transmission to leave the stop lights as well.
When he talked about those nitrogen shocks. I will tell you it did make those LX models ride great. These cars were easy to work on. The only real issue on some and particularly the color shown here was the painted peeled. Wait, then there was the antifreeze oil leak from the exhaust manifold, then the little rubber piece that broke for that cable that went from the throttle to the transmission, then the heater control cable,, then the plug into the alternator burned up, then the rear axle seals leaked, then the power windows stopped working. LOL But I still love these cars and currently own a 2011 Crown Victoria now. This 1990 and 1989 model were great.
I own a 1990 country squire wagon myself awesome car!!
This and the next Crown Vic make me think of Andy Griffith driving each in Matlock.
THE BIG CAR LOOK!!!!!!
Beautiful .. just bought a 90 LTD with 27k original miles... Best car ever made🔥🔥
Loved my 89 ltd. The look and feel of the big square body and the style was to cool. 150hp though so sad but I guess 180mpg was really good for a sedan in the 80’s I bet a gear head could get it around 220-250 though. New cars just don’t look cool to me
Such a beautiful car.
1:22 Damn, what a beauty! Crown Victoria is AWESOME!
that overdrive demonstration was brutal.
I miss those designs.
I always wanted to own a 88-91 but never did. I had a 87 and 93 Crown Vics. Now I have a 06 Grand Marquis. Since the Crown Vic and Marquis are long gone, this will be my last American car.
The product specialist guy (James MacKrell) is in the pilot episode of 'Moonlighting' 1985.
Looked familiar thought he was the principle from teen wolf sure enough searched rhe name from your comment its him
The 'new' instrument panel looks like it was designed in the 1960s by accountants in a committee.
150 hp out of a 5 liter engine is amazing!
Ummm my 5 liter V8 mercedes makes 350 horsepower
What year is your Mercedes?
Actually, not really. That's weak for that size, and this is coming from someone who drives that car.
I’d buy it again exactly like this, idk why people complain about gas, it’s better mpg than trucks and has a big gas tank
"all n new instrument pannel" looks like its from the 60s
Nah. The pre-'89 looks older. That was somewhat new at the time.
Probably were round gauges before.
🤣
@@patcurrie9888 Not really. The became round in 1992. The 1989 and older had a square dash like that, but was taken from the original 1979 model, which looked thin and woody.
Nope. It had a horizontal speedometer
Extraño estos autos y coincido con mi padre cuando dice: «Por qué todo tuvo que evolucionar?? Por qué el tiempo no se detuvo ahí??»
Nothing screams 80s car like like a red valuer interior.
For sin...
^ legendary statement
4:47 Ahh yes... that pesky parking attendant. Make sure you tell him how you counted all of the quarters in the driver's door ash tray.
Mario Almada's favourite car when it came to car chases. Classic! RIP Mario Almada.
ugh the stupid people in the comment section going on about "Horsepower this! and Horsepower that!" this car had good torque for pulling around. Jay Leno had an old steamcar with only a 100 horsepower but 1000 foot Lbs of torque. That steamcar was fast and was able to keep up with traffic very well. Shows that horsepower isn't everything.
I daily drive this car and I'll tell you, It hauls ass! Anymore horsepower in this car and it would launch to the moon 😂
@@sr212787 I heard the Police versions of the LTD Crown Vic were even better.
@@ironinquisitor3656 Of course. More powerful engine upgrades and suspension able to handle tearing up the streets everyday!
@@ironinquisitor3656 Yes, but slightly.
I have one of those cars in my garage, the station wagon. I pulled the 302 engine, rebuilt it (lots of mods but still 302) with different cam and used a Street Demon card 4 bbl. I get 15 mpg around town with the A/C on. And 0 - 60 in 10.6 seconds.
@@constantinlungu7515 Yes, they were built very reliable (police cars). BUT... any car over 25 years old will most likely have electrical problems relays, computers, wires, ignition, coil, and so on). However the parts are low cost. First get a compression test and full inspection done before you but the time and money into it. Good luck.
@@constantinlungu7515 Pre-catalytic converter (1974 or before).
i like it... it reminds me of matlock
@spartarools Yes it's one of my favorite Crown Victoria Design too!
You had me at airbag and drum brakes.
the days when automakers were yet to figure out how to integrate the horn onto the airbag.
I prefer the buttons so much more
@InfiniteMushroom Now you mention it, it took time to get used to. I learned to play the throttle to make the shifts more fluid. I guess some automatics deliver a constant surge when floored, and others slam the gears.
91 crown vic/96 caprice best of LAPD!!!
I LOVE THIS CAR THE 1990 IS GREAT RUNS LIKE A DREAM EVEN WITH 60K MILES ON IT..
I love the 1990 Caprice, and I also love the Ford Victoria 1991, is there
1988-1989 has Amber signal lenses until 1990 was replaced by clear lenses from 1990 to 1991
Clear lenses were 91 only. 88-90 used amber lenses.
That car looked big on the outside but small on in inside. Today it's the reverse.
@anandecy3035 Thats true but the people who bought a Lexus or Mercedes were paying extra for that power. A Lexus LS400 was over $40,000 and the Crown Vic was about half that. They're not in the same category, and are not competing for the same buyers. So you can't compare them
Driving one right now
I have an lx I want one of those wagons so badly
actually the 5.0 in the latest f150 is a totally different engine. The old 5.0 was good for about 230hp.
I love the 80s,90s comrecels
Commercials...
I would like a two-door crown Vic please!
Then buy one
You can't find a coupe in the '88-'91 model.
What happened to the IRS they mention???
I can't recall having seen a Crown Victoria Wagon.
Geoff Dearth all country squires after a certain year are a package of the crown Victoria wagon line.
Me gusta el carro un Ford LTD Crown Victoria 1990; parecido al qué tiene Erasmo Padilla (José José); le hizo competencia al Chevrolet Caprice Classic; un excelente automóvil; la última edición del Ford LTD Crown Victoria; saludos y buenos días.
Crown Victoria is discontinued. The last one rolled off the line Sept. 15, 2011 at 12:30.
@InfiniteMushroom Interesting story. Sure about the lock-up? I think for these full size Fords it is:
Reverse: slush
1st: slush
2nd: slush
3rd: slush + lock-up
4th: lock-up.
At least, that's in my '86 GM. Doubt CV's were different...
I have an '87 Crown Victoria and trust me it's exactly the same. The AOD transmission was great for reliability but until the torque converter locked up it was like trying to accelerate through oatmeal. Just very slushy transmissions. I also notice that they tend to try and get to 3rd gear as quickly as they can. If I accelerate moderately it'll hit 2nd gear at like 15 MPH and 3rd around 30 MPH, hold 3rd for a while, lock up the converter around 45 MPH and overdrive around 50. But accelerating feels something like "1...2...3...........Lockup......4.
A question I have is why could'nt Ford have a tilt wheel in the Mustang in 1990 but was available in the Crown VIctoria that same model year?
My dad had a 1990 Mustang and 1990 Crown Victoria indentical to the one in the video!
Were leather seats an option for the 1990 Crown Victoria?
It was optional on the LX models.
@78ColonyPark Same here man! My first car was a 1989 Ford Crown Vic!
“And you used to sell laser printers out the back of your Crown Vic” - Albie Cianfalone-
only see a couple of these out there
yes ty i want to get my hands on a 5.0 big body ford all day son!!!
coming to a retirement village near you...
They said the core buyer was older at the desk, not all older buyers are going to retirement villages, folks back then and a few under 55 appreciated a quiet, comfy V8 ride. You'll get there some day.
@@patcurrie9888 I was just kidding. a friend of mine had one. they ride and drive nice. and with that 302 under the hood, go fast parts are readily available
I want that car.
thank you for this video!
Too bad they don’t still make these out dated but durable for the long run and comfortable. 😊❤
i miss my 88 ltd
Why did Ford stop building the best selling car ever , the Crown Victoria? Ford made a poor decision on that one
That was what around 2010 ? They quit making these
2011 is the last year, and most of them were being sold over to the middle east where they retained somewhat decent sales compared to the USA.
Not governed, the needle is just pegged to that mark. You can go way beyond that speed, but you can't tell then your speed anymore.
No wonder CASEY loved it!!
Thanks a bunch man!
The base model of the Metallic Pea Family Truckster
@Safari307 torque doesn't matter once u have power to weight on your side :) i waxed most other cars on highways easily.
Does anyone know what year they stopped making the 2 door?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_LTD_Crown_Victoria
Scroll down to production: 1987
It would be interesting to know the average age of the buyers of this car.
You Gotta Have That Car.
The wagon queen family truckster you may hate it now but wait til you drive it.
I was always puzzled why they started calling their flagship car the Crown Victoria. Seems like it would have little appeal in the US.
Police and fleet sales made it immensely popular
they forgot to say, "better hurry and buy one, we will only be makig the Panthers 21 more years!"
I do like bumper rub strips.
عندي فورد غراند ماركيز ١٩٩٠ وكاله جديده
اذا انت بالسعوديه دلني على واحد يبيع قطع غياره عجزت احصلها هنا لو عندك تلفون او رقم اكون شاكر لك جزيل الشكر حتى اللي معي نظيف لكن خارجيا فقط ميكانيكا يبي له شغل واجد
Lol that new key thing is more complicated than how they already were
Max Wooden Hey, i remember you, you answered my comment on the 1993 cadillac brougham, how are you, we seem to like the same things.
All good, yeah full size American luxury are my favs
Standard halogen headlights? Well ofc you wouldn’t put tungstens in. And I mean LEDs were not nearly bright enough to be headlights back then, and I doubt they’d brag about having halogen over HID metal halides. It was weird how he phrased that.
5:09 A key reason NOT to buy is the instrument panel. This horizontal speedometer makes absolutely no sense, 'cause the numbers are too close together in the range of usable speeds, making them difficult to read. Excellent car, though.
Terrible, I have the car and the gauges read just as fast as GPS with 5% accuracy lol
awesome
I guess Ford worried about independent rear suspension on the upcoming Caprice for nothing.
Hell I got a 90 and a 91 true champs and survivors
Holy Jim Mackaral!