I think it would have been better to include the price of the sacrifices in the cost of the temples and TSG. Testing the VTSG in comparison as well would have also been interesting.
There were quite a few confusing setups he made. Using all sabotage abilities at the same time, placing damage over time - like alchemists - all in one spot instead of spreading them to keep the bloons covered etc Not sure what the end goal was
I’m annoyed with this the idea is to test them against the bad to see how they fair not to test them with what their good at this and top path alch too
@@midnightexe7248It is. They were spread out through the map and had more window to attack. If they could fit in the same spot, they wouldn't get the extra coverage
Would be interesting it it wasnt just higher round BADs all the time. Like the Ninjas Id like to see 10x Bloonjistsu vs Grandmaster on 98 same with sticky vs master bomber
There are 2 buffs that they need to add 1. Make bottom pat super monkey have more range 2. Make total transformation a permanent transformation, when activation of ability it will become stronger and still will turn 5 monkeys in the radius into a monster (like etienne level 20)
Just so that more people know, tier 4 temples deal more damage if support is sacrificed instead of military, because the tier 4 can only get 3 tower categories(primary, military, magic and support) and will discard the fourth one, i placed all 5 temples, with three of them having military and two having support, and they popped a round 200 bad with all the insides also popped, this also goes to the tier 5, as the sacrifices to support stack, the best setup for a tier 4 is 50k in primary, 50k in magic and 50k in support, if trying to make a temple army the second would be the same, from third onwards it can be military, as the tier 4 boost can't stack with other tier 4, and the first two temples are buffing eachother, for the tier 5 sacrificing twice the primary, once military, twice magic and twice support is the best, as it got almost 600k pops against the round 180 bad, still it's an interesting idea, keep it up dude
Cool to see that Wrathavatar is the strongest compared to T4 Price-spam. But Super would need own Vid because there are different Sacrifices needed to compare.
you shouldve added some sun avatars for the ninja sabo ones since sabo is not used for damage but for support, then you could’ve seen which one slowed more
Round 1-80 BADs are weaker than a round 100 BAD, it might be more useful to use round 1 BADs for testing certain towers instead of a round 100 BAD which has slightly boosted HP and speed.
When he did the middle path ninja he kinda cheated by using the ability before it spawned because when placed it’s cooldown is 3/4ths of the way done but also even if used right at 100 it wouldn’t work so basically he used the ability and then spawned it with less health
Do... You always destroy your towers before a new round to reset their cooldown? This ability HAS to be used before the round, what got me upset was that he used all together which makes absolutely zero sense in any scenario
can you test something? full max buff black temple vs full. max buffed all. 3 fifth teir super monkey, to see how much of a difference and to whos side
While the sun gods deal more damage the true sun god would give crazy amounts of extra damage depending on other towers along with the money bonus, the true sun god is much better then sungods when its vengeful
I think it would have been better to include the price of the sacrifices in the cost of the temples and TSG. Testing the VTSG in comparison as well would have also been interesting.
15 temples
Can’t use VTSG in a sandbox match
@@icegale1307*_-challenge editor-_*
@@civardelen9684he’s mobile user
You can't do it on sandbox
Perma brew seems kinda bad, 13 berserkers is much more optimal! Thanks for sharing this new meta defining knowledge.
Unless your towers attack stupidly fast
@@Mictecuh_1347 how do you find it THAT hard to understand a joke
Perma brew is better
It doesn’t take up nearly as much space
And it can be transported to other locations with the support chinhook
The total transformation should have 5 other tier 1 towers with it to maximize the ability. Without them it wouldn’t be as good as it could be.
Yeah, infuriating that he didn’t get the dart monkey friends
There were quite a few confusing setups he made. Using all sabotage abilities at the same time, placing damage over time - like alchemists - all in one spot instead of spreading them to keep the bloons covered etc
Not sure what the end goal was
Yeah I agree with total transformation. I think he would of won.
that and also druid of wrath should've had its 5 buffing druids
@@Whiskers--5Or 000 glue gunners since they don't damage anything and would make for a good damage comparison
It would also be interesting to test them against heavy bloom rounds in case pierce makes a big difference, rounds like 94 96 98 or 103
95
the video cant be too long
9:55
i mean it's an obvious winner
especially since the bloon master alcemist's ability to turn everything except BAD's into red bloons scales
I’m annoyed with this the idea is to test them against the bad to see how they fair not to test them with what their good at this and top path alch too
and it is sad to see that the true sun god, the most expensive tower, excluding paragons...is not stronger then 5 temples
@@midnightexe7248It is. They were spread out through the map and had more window to attack. If they could fit in the same spot, they wouldn't get the extra coverage
@@midnightexe7248 in a real game the TSG is always better than multiple temples. Especially if we're taking the VTSG into account.
@@Slaking_yeah because it takes up less space since you can just use paragons too
I would really like to see the druids tier 4 and 5 against bloons that can be grabbed by vines
Tier 5 would still win
Would be interesting it it wasnt just higher round BADs all the time.
Like the Ninjas Id like to see 10x Bloonjistsu vs Grandmaster on 98 same with sticky vs master bomber
The beast handler would be more complicated due to beast power and merging
do more Tier 5 VS Tier 4 Towers (Same Price Comparison) | BTD6 pls
Yea
The sun god and temples should have no sacrifices to make it more fair, but otherwise pretty good vid.
The sacrifices makes it too expensive, like 130k a temple + 200k/150k on sacrifices, with 5 temple its over 1M
The TSG has 3x as much single target dps as a regular Temple.
maxed Temples ≠ maxed TSG price wise
you do realise sacrificeless temple is 3x weaker than an avatar?
Bro the temple with no sacrifices is shit
2:46 you are my sunshine
There are 2 buffs that they need to add
1. Make bottom pat super monkey have more range
2. Make total transformation a permanent transformation, when activation of ability it will become stronger and still will turn 5 monkeys in the radius into a monster (like etienne level 20)
1.LOTN is overpowered enough
2.total transform is overpowered enough
if anything nerf it
Just so that more people know, tier 4 temples deal more damage if support is sacrificed instead of military, because the tier 4 can only get 3 tower categories(primary, military, magic and support) and will discard the fourth one, i placed all 5 temples, with three of them having military and two having support, and they popped a round 200 bad with all the insides also popped, this also goes to the tier 5, as the sacrifices to support stack, the best setup for a tier 4 is 50k in primary, 50k in magic and 50k in support, if trying to make a temple army the second would be the same, from third onwards it can be military, as the tier 4 boost can't stack with other tier 4, and the first two temples are buffing eachother, for the tier 5 sacrificing twice the primary, once military, twice magic and twice support is the best, as it got almost 600k pops against the round 180 bad, still it's an interesting idea, keep it up dude
A single max sacrifice sun temple can pop the bad on his own
if u look at the round nr its a round 180 bad
@@mihai6129 still can
@@nathandoner8860 it most definitely cant brou
@@mihai6129 you tried? I did
My Full Sacrifice Sun Temple went up to round 140
Five ancient temples of power: no
Red bird guy: yes
Cool to see that Wrathavatar is the strongest compared to T4 Price-spam. But Super would need own Vid because there are different Sacrifices needed to compare.
Master bomber might not deal the most damage, but it gets the most of its job done
That’s what I was thinking as the 004 didn’t even pop all the moabs just did more to ceramics
How did you count the damage of the pod? :O
Yea the number would be off due to the spawns for the graveyard but the bad was much more damaged
@@trystanlamm6943 I mean he could have just got a boomer or smth to pop the bloons in his range :D
@@derbabo8455He probably counted the number of extra Bloons he sent and subtracted the RBE. Its not hard to do some simple subtraction.
He looked at the pop counter on the POD. Stupid
@@AtlasOfEden And its even easier to just get a MOAR glaives or smth for the bloons but that works too ig xD
Oh boy I can’t wait for Paragon vs (?) towers
Tbf. 13 alchs would probaby buff all i need perfectly. Only issue beeing the space.
And rip the xx4 wizard. It truly was hard to micro that i guess
Archmage is so OP, it can solo entire rushes of MOABs and even sometimes pop purples.
Top path druid probably should have been tested against a wave of ZOMGs
What? Master Bomber clearly won it stopped the DDTs and popped more bloons.
The sticky bombs popped more ceramics that’s why
@@jonad114n2it left moabs
Although the master bomber popped the outer layer of more moabs, he popped far less of the ceramics inside, and dealt less damage overall
Yeah the hearts were 88000 for the little ones and 92000 for the master bomber, something went wrong there 😮
you shouldve added some sun avatars for the ninja sabo ones since sabo is not used for damage but for support, then you could’ve seen which one slowed more
The super monkey part is unfair. The sacrifice spent to bring the temples to that state is greater than the sun god.
Yeah shoulda done vtsg
Round 1-80 BADs are weaker than a round 100 BAD, it might be more useful to use round 1 BADs for testing certain towers instead of a round 100 BAD which has slightly boosted HP and speed.
When he did the middle path ninja he kinda cheated by using the ability before it spawned because when placed it’s cooldown is 3/4ths of the way done but also even if used right at 100 it wouldn’t work so basically he used the ability and then spawned it with less health
Realistically you're going to use it before the round starts (end of 99)
You can time it on r100 to affect the B.A.D, it’s just really tight timing.
Does that even count for pops though? Also, it's more of using the tower's full potential by itself rather than cheating.
Do... You always destroy your towers before a new round to reset their cooldown?
This ability HAS to be used before the round, what got me upset was that he used all together which makes absolutely zero sense in any scenario
To be fair, that's the only thing it's good for. You're not using sabo or grand sabo for dps it's for the ability lol
Great video!
i think bma testing was every so slightly unfair because it is the only time when you tested a zomg
Sad to see a true Sun god Unable to pop a bad
2:43 why didn't you count the sacrefase
I'm confused how some t5s popped the bad and the insides but got less pops when other t5s popped the bad and didn't pop the ddts or the bfbs and moabs
can you test something? full max buff black temple vs full. max buffed all. 3 fifth teir super monkey, to see how much of a difference and to whos side
black temple 💀
it's a vtsg
I dont know about the temples, should they have had sacrifices for this test? Maybe no sacrifices at all would have been easiest to understand
1:42
honestly, prince of darkness is better as it summons moabs and bfbs
You should compare how good their abilities are and not how much dmg they do
If anyone wants to know the name of the music
Its: console -monowolfe
TSG lost to Solar Temples just because of range, wich they wouldn't have too if not for the space forcing the spread kf them.
Well and the level he spawned that in cause for the temples he did not got for level 100
3:15 Music?
Biggest w for permabrew, buffed that bad so hard
"are on drugs, ARE YOU F#CKING ON DRUGS"
- i dont know i heard in an edit man
I would use ZOMG instead of BAD for middle path ninja
I like these Videos but on the same time its unrealistic without crosspathing.
Tier5 ninja just left the ceramic while sticky bomb left moabs
While the sun gods deal more damage the true sun god would give crazy amounts of extra damage depending on other towers along with the money bonus, the true sun god is much better then sungods when its vengeful
+another 650k
@@chickenman2137 for vengeful yeah
Cool!
Nice Vid
for the top path super monkey tier 3s would be better
Sun god wasn’t fair because you didn’t include sacrifice money
moral of the story: quantity < quality (sometimes)
Vídeo excelente
Hello, can you remake the temple and sacrifice it with atleast Support
I mean those t4 temples
Quality or quantity in a nutshell
For those wondering if he is using monkey knowledge, he isnt there isnt any spikes sooo good job on the creator of the vid by disabling them
Bro u sacrificed stuff for temples but didn't do it for tsg
Why were you putting random balloons
Do the banana farm next :
So the wizard summon pheonix is better than the TSG
They were testing in Very different rounds tho haha
Only reason i get prince of darkness it because of DDT
Why without crosspathing?
Bro stop testing support towers as damage ones it makes me want to claw my eyeballs out 👁️👁️
Why the bad placement?
They're on mobile I think
Mind 2:40
Dude these placements are so weird
BRO TRUE SUN GOD NEEDS A BUFF BAD
it had no sacrifices
супер манки 0 0 5 могбы просто отправить моаб в портал не ударив его
God savves
Whats the first music called?
Console by monowolfe: soundcloud.com/monowolfe/console?si=455ade28ec1c42ffb165d8f947715408&
Boy dose the true sun god suck that bad
People who know if you make it into a Vtsg it would win
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Pov Boomerang monkey vs sun god free dart monkey wins
why loser the master bomber he poped every thing exept the ceramics
Antibloon could do better
Cuál fue el mejor ?
Third
Yes
Why me
Why did you waited when phoenix ability has reset? You should've used it immediately like you did before!
To use its full capabilities when the B.A.D was below it
Lotn kinda isnt fair
This is why I hate sun god
A TSG can’t deal with a BAD? That’s embarrassing
Round 180 BAD
@@georgear_rd7494oh I missed that. Still sucks that it did worse than the tier below it though
Do 100 teacher ones and one tier 5
Song?
Console by monowolfe: soundcloud.com/monowolfe/console?si=455ade28ec1c42ffb165d8f947715408&
Math not mathing
L 2:10
The super monkey 0-0-5 could do more if it didint pop the bad
Y U NO GET CROSSPATH
Bc the raw power doesnt rely on crosspaths
The fire wizard is more powerfull than the tsg
the reason why tsg was weaker is bcz no sacrifices
@@i_love_melon_doggesbecause of no sacrifises
No because wizards had a r100 bad while tsg had r180
@@nikolasmoret1884true
@@nob2918it had scarfice but it was round 180
Meu deus Pierre que porra e essa não intendi nada
you on mobile
mhm he is and what about it
Master bombee clearly won
Cheater you crossed pathed the one after 4 tier of magic monkey
Bruh why r u doing tests without crosspaths its not realistic 🤡
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