Is Eden Hazard the best player in the Premier League? | The Debate | Murphy & Bellamy
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After his recent form and brilliant winning goal against Liverpool in the Carabao Cup the panel discuss whether Eden Hazard is currently the best player in the Premier League.
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Honestly the Ronaldo and Messi goal culture over the last decade has deluded us. We used to call the likes of Ronaldinho, Kaka and Zidane the best in the world just based on elegance & ability and not necessary their goalscoring
Never a truer word said. It's the same argument with players like sterling. People always mistake pace for skill!! How does scoring goals make you a better player than the one setting them up or you? It's complete nonsense!!
Nabeel Ali wow spot on
Messi and ronaldo both had elegance and ability in their prime and still does. The only thing is they brought loads of goals too with it.
Nabeel Ali Wrong. We were deluded back then, Messi and Ronaldo opened our eyes. Goals is the thing that wins you games, not elegance, not dribbles, not passing. The fact that anyone would think Ronaldinho is anywhere close to Messi and Ronaldo is a complete joke.
Nabeel Ali what are you doing on the comment section? Don’t you know this place is for hyperbolic idiots
I'm a city fan and hundred percent agrees that hazard is the best pl player
what and what Have you heard of Kevin?
umar siddique ya so?
@@umarsiddique6564 he's not playing right now dumb noob
Hazard and Silva and De bruyne have never reached the level of quality that Salah shown last season
Michael Fox salah was carried by firmino and mane
Fact. That’s why his achievement was overrated, suarez scoring 31 was levels above him.
Hazard doesn't need to score to be the best player on the field. His influence alone is immense.
Agreed
Akwenda N 👍 so influential he led chelski to the europa league the best league in the 🌍😂 chelskis most valuable asset is ngolo kante and him staying at chelski won’t win him any top trophies when your star man is hazard...he should leave and join the best team of his nation psg because he is the missing masterpiece, cmon kante.
Lol funny thing hazard ain’t even trying his best to be his best and he the best in the league imagine if he try’s his best like Neymar try to do when hazard not trying his best and he still better than Neymar if hazard try his best he will actually make salah and Neymar look overrated
Jamie Williams What makes you think he’s not trying his best?
If he was trying his best he be 10x more greedy and less passing like Ronaldo and Neymar and salah
Only sky sports would ask such pointless questions now.
Eden been the best for a while now.
Not that pointless. Salah and De Bruyne were seen as the top 2 best players last year. Hazard hasn't done it consistently enough.
Sam Harrison he had one bad season. Kdb and salah weren't near hazards level before last year
Robert Pires Well Salah has only been in the PL for one season lol, as for De Bruyne he got badly injured in Pep's first season. I think Hazard has the most talent in the PL, but he has to keep this consistency up the whole season to be considered the best.
@@subswithoutavideo-ne5zc one bad season? last one he was not good enough.. and the last season under Mourinho he was absolutely shockingly bad...
Robert Pires So what's in your opinion makes a player the best? Especially for forwards, stats or how pleasing they are on eyes
This season he will get at least 20 goals and 15 assists. Maybe this season will be his best season.
20 goals yes, 15 assists never, you'd be surprised how poor his assists actually are
@@bri1085 the assist don't matter as much as we have plenty of playmakers who can do the job
I wish Chelsea was in the Chapmions League
Bri10 He already has 5 assists mate
@Ayoub Nait he actually played as striker that season I think.
YES he is...
What a Goal he scored yesterday! Absolute Top...Top player. The game changer. And he's not playing 100% yet. Joy to watch.
He has never played this well before so he's clearly firing at 100% at the moment.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi The most important thing for him rightnow - consistency. With Sarri's style of play which not just suits him but improves him, he'll reach another level. Sarri's "smoke" is something else😁
@@kush6969 man I wanted sarri so badly at arsenal two seasons ago, I called that his style of football would eventually catch the eye of all the top clubs and voilà, it happened. He has a knack of getting wingers to perform, you've got the right man. Also finally someone mentions Hazard's consistency as his primary issue (rather than the managers he's served under) in this comment section. If Sarri can fix that though, he'll be balling and easily in the top 5 if not top 3 in the world.
Gangster Bop
hhhaha u kids are really them "living in the moment" fans that has 0 memory as a goldfish. Dear me.
Remember who was in defense!
Moreno, clyne and louvren omg and the goalkeeper is loserpool mig!!! Even Zaha can score in that team
Only thing thats been holding Hazard back from more goals was the way managers played him and the systems implemented simple as that. Only Sarri can allow him to score more, simple as that. Just imagine Hazard under Pep's team or even Klopps team now...? The free flowing game styles and attacking mentality would of easily allowed him to score more goals at least 20 a season. Hopefully he reaches these types of numbers under Sarriball.
Yeah everyone with low IQ ignores this factor, Conte played with a back 5 and a double pivot of two defensive players. Imagine
@@deadlydimitarr that only accounts for two seasons... And wouldn't hazard prosper in a counterattackung system given his experience and suitable abilities? His consistency has always been the main issue.
I'd say hazards lack of ability to perform for a whole season generally dictates how his numbers stack up for him.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi well Hazard was injured a lot a couple seasons ago.
@@RasenRendanX he wasn't injured that much apart from one season where I believe he was out for many months. Apart from that, a lot of it really came from a drop in quality of end product that generally happens throughout the middle part of the season. I wonder if it's a base of him not having a sufficient level of stamina to keep it going at such a high level all season. Maybe he has to work just a little bit harder during fitness training to reach the top, we'll see with Sarri I'm sure.
Hazard>neymar
Michael Copus That's not even a debate. Neymar is nowhere near Hazard.
Neymar should stop theatrics first if he wants to atleast be somewhat near Hazard😅
Derick Danny Not just that, all he seems to do now is dribble and lose the ball. Try a fancy flick and fail. Very ineffective.
Michael Copus in la la land but 😂😂😂 good joke
I'mTheDaddy Q Have you even seen Neymar play? Greedy, loses the ball. That's all. He was a far better player at Barcelona.
Love Bellamy as a pundit completely shut shreeves down by saying Henry / Messi have proven you don’t need to be selfish to have great numbers
Murphy agreed with the presenter but then when bellers said that Murphy agreed with that lol
to be fair to the presenter I think he asks a lot of devil’s advocate type stuff to get a response out of the other to so it doesn’t necessarily reflect what he believes. of course you don’t need to be selfish to get great numbers, but given a fixed ability level would a more selfish player version of the same player get more goals is maybe a better question though (and, not I don’t think, that clear cut either). The easy answer would be to say yes of course, but maybe a more selfish player rubs teammates the wrong way and gets less service as a result.
Bellamy and you both misunderstood what people mean when they say you have to be selfish to get a lot of goals. It's not a negative thing, we don't mean actually being a snob and tryna get all the goals. It just means you have to tell yourself "I am the best player on this team, and they need me to produce numbers in order for us to have a great season" or something like that. Once you take-on that responsibility, and you have the talent of players like hazard or neymar, you can instantly become a consistent 40+ goal scorer.
Messi is selfish, don't be fooled by his quiet personality and his assist numbers. He begs for the ball the whole game and he will walk all the way back to the goal line just to get a few touches. He gets assists because he tries 15 through balls per game (he keeps his passing % up by doing hundreds of small passes in his own half).
It's not a bad thing, Messi is the most talented player of all time and it would be a shame if he had the attitude of hazard, because then I promise he would have no ballon d'Ors
nayrad hazard and Messi are just alike in terms of both want responsibility on the pitch ... they both demand the ball all over the pitch but main difference between the 2 is Messi has more ways of scoring goals and better teammates to find him ... also hazard has a tendency to ball watch off the ball instead of trying to get on the end of stuff 🤷🏻♀️
@@MrFlameRad If Messi is trying 15 through balls per game then he can't be that selfish.
Hazard has no need to score 20+ or even 30+ goals. Hazard has a style, unlike Henry, Messi and even Salah, Hazard does not get tap ins, he does not even get simple opportunities, Hazard is so well defended that he has to make his own goals, how often has Hazard dazzled defences, ie Liverpool, Arsenal and Man utd. Mourinho even decided to man mark him, the honest truth is that Hazard will never be like Salah, Hazard is the player who will spend an entire game against Palace trying to find space but not really getting in to finish off a chance, but will also go to the Etihad and dribble past everyone and slot it in, this is why Hazard can wins Chelsea the premier league, he is not a prolific winger, he is an enigmatic roaming attacker, Hazard goes and does as he pleases and that is why he will not score 30 goals but that is also why in those big moments he is the one and only person you can not ignore.
I'm sorry, I didn't know he scored against us last season at the Etihad
Bhargav Kulkarni I am not saying he did, but he is capable, apart from De Bruyne, no one can compare from your team, and you are struggling right now, so please save your smugness for the end of the season when you win the premier league
What do u smoke?
Can I love this comment? I want to love this comment
You lost me at Messi score tap-ins. Hazard to me is the closest thing to Messi. If he scores more often, he would definitely be regarded as one of the best players in the world. Third best player with due respect to CR7. Hazard is a better passer, dribbler, better vision & team player than CR7.
He will go down in Premier League history as one of the greats
Hazard doesn't need to score goals to prove his worth , he's a world class player who can change games at any moment like Messis Ronaldos etc . Currently Chelsea is totally depended on Hazard and I think he is 2nd best after Lionel Messi.
Imagine disagreeing
imagine a "debate"
@Gillian W
Thing is Gillian, facts are evident in football, it's not subjective for minds that are advanced in the game
Imagine going missing in champions league again and again and again
Imagine pretending to be a United fan.
@@deadlydimitarr what facts? His stats are worse than Alexis Sanchez in Arsenal. Most overrated football player ever
Not just the best but *by far*
Definitely best dribbler in PL. 2nd best dribbler in world.
Who's a better dribbler? Stupid guy, Messi ain't 23 now
@DARK3270 he's a show boater, most of the times he's dribbling doesn't have any purpose.
@@db9saru155 Messi still the best dribbler . And no one ever will surpass him.
siddharth patil showboatewho makes more key passes and goal chances than any other player in the world, who has more assists in the CL than any other player in the world since 2013/14? delusion delusion delusion, stick to facts or stick to 🏏
Messi was only a good dribbler at 23 and younger? Do you even football? that was almost 10 years ago so the last 10 years he hasn't been making defenders looks stupid?
This is coming from a Utd man.Hazard is the best player in the Premier league by a bloody mile! How though is he not already at Real Madrid?
He loves Chelsea!
Lol..kdb
I imagine the same way you've kept hold of De Gea, we can't afford to let them leave.
Because Bale is better
@@AlWwW1 bale sure helped real Madrid come back vs Servilla yesterday didn't he?
Oh wait...
who remembers when hazard did same thing to spurs in the FA cup last year
Explain to me how KDB is better than hazard at this moment, while he home resting his injury watching games on TV. CIty fans need to relax.
In the past few months it’s been De Bruyne, Salah, David Silva and now Hazard. Who’s it going to be next month then?
Maybe they will say that Lovren is the best 😆😆😆
Zaha
fellani
it's always been hazard he's been the best player in the league for like 5 seasons
MORENO.
this dude is a magician and i think its high time he gets the respect he deserves....he is the best and humble at the same time ....thumbs up
The 72 people who disliked this are Liverpool, Arsenal, Man Utd, and Tottenham fans.
in the form he is, he is the best in the world right now. i hope he can play like this the whole season.. he would be fully deserved ballon d or winner
Eden will be a ballon dor winner very soon
Would walk into any team in the world with ease and I'm a Liverpool fan
U talking truth
Certainly up there & a fantastic player, but I feel like this conversation only started after De Bruyne got injured? He's certainly been helped by the new attacking Style at Chelsea!
Hazard was always better than de bruyne, and you say that Chelsea's style is helping him what about city, city has way better players than chelsea and I am a chelsea fan, and still hazard plays better
I don't think City have 'way better' midfield/attacking players then Chelsea. Willian, Pedro, Kante & now Jorginho would all compete well at City. Hazard is exceptional, but I slightly prefer the passing playmaker and think De Bruyne is often rated less well because he's not so much of a trickster/goalscorer. But no doubting both players are exceptional!
@@HonestFootballPodcast
You're so dumb lol
The best in the world now
6 mins to talk of the already known. Hehehe.......Hazard is far the best in the League.
last year salah but overall hazard is the golden star in an ultimate team squad
He has to do it in the Champions league first. 7 years at Chelsea and 2 knockout stage goals.
preach
I like Eden hazard the he best prayer I seen in football history good finishes
Hazard isn’t self driven and ruthless like many players. I feel like hazard just plays and enjoys his football lol he passes in front of the goal. I don’t know hazard doesn’t seem like the hype driven guy. Hazard can be up there with the messi and ronaldo in terms of end product. He has potential but I don’t think he cares enough lol which there’s nothing wrong with. He’s a top lad.
Good to see Ricky Gervais back on the TV
hazard sent moreno to buy a an egg then he came back for the nutmeg
Story of my life
By Alberto moreno
RIP
Don't know why they're saying he needs to leave...Chelsea have just got an attacking manager and Hazard is thriving, and he is going to win trophies in the best league, why should he move???
he is the best since 2012 changing managers and defensive mantality of managers of chelsea who stoped him to scoring goals now with sarry w'll see the real HAZARD
the fact that every new upcoming player is compared to hazard is enough to highlight what hazard has achieved over the years, he has maintained his reputation every season. These pundits once compared alexis sanchez to hazard, where is alexis now ? They compared mahrez to hazard, although he is good, but he scores when his team is already in a winning position unlike hazard who scores when needed the most. So please, end this debate now, he is the best player witnessing premier league. I am a chelsea fan although!!
you guys are weird, if kdb was playing you would have been having the same argument lol
So true mate, Debruyne better than him for me
Kevin is better ,and that's juss a fact
Donald Tome nah hazard is better
No KDB is a world class but he can't do what hazard does
Dravid Brown argument works both ways
I am a Liverpool fan but to be honest, I don't see how you can class Hazard as one of the best. He is a good player, however I don't think that he's got the consistency. In the past five years or so, he's on had 1 good season in a row. He's dangerous and you can see that but he doesn't do enough with it.
Eden Hazard is the clever player, and play with a football better more. He know how to play for the success.
He might be the best but how many good games in a season does he have? 10? Maybe 15 at max? What was his record last season? Is that good enough these days to be the best in the premier league for having a few good games or scoring a wonder goal here and there? What about the likes of De Bruyne, David Silva, Aguero and probably Mo Salah (as he was consistent last season and has had a decent start this season even though he is not at his best YET)? Surely you have to be consistent to be a world class player as pundits were saying about Mo Salah. Has Hazard been consistent?
Awesome Videos HD Tbf he has always played under a defensive minded manager. I think that now,under Sarri, he may reach the status of the best in the PL.
@@hndrxx8574 Could be but we should wait and see. Not say he's the best in league after a wonder goal. He maybe the best and I think he is but he's not proved it consistently. At the moment I would choose between De Bruyne, Silva, Aguero or Salah by going off last season. Salah needs to keep up same as last season and we all know De Bruyne and Silva are very very consistent. Hazard needs to up his game massively and be consistent to be classed as "the best in the PL" or "the best after Messi and Ronaldo".
Awesome Videos HD , are you mad
@@foodlover6613
He has won the most man of the match awards since his debut. He won most last year when people thought he had a poor season he also had most 2016/17 and 2014/15. Plus he also has been in every team of the year since 2009
The Godfather he joined the premier league in 2012
Forget the premier league... He's one of the best in the world at the moment
De Bruyne is better than hazard as well.
JD 1 ,are you alright.or is something wrong with your head
Itzfreeboy lucky lmao no arguments just petty insults, De Bruyne is better than Hazard.
Idiot
JD shut up he's not better
Kdb brings more to the field in his game. Definitely better than hazard
I’m a Liverpool fan and Hazard is definitely amazing and the best rn
So, these guys aren't bothered by Hazard not tracking, and they don't want him to track to begin with, but Ozil apparently has to track back and help defend!!!!
you have to consider the positions the two occupy. as a more central player, with the ability to pick the right pass with the least amount of time, as a coach i expect you have an input defensively. you have the potential to start a counter and i need to see that. as for a winger, whose game is primarily taking on one or two players i expect you to be close to the centre forward, facing your goal for a quick turn and pounce. perfect example, Hazard's role in the Brazil game. you just cant not have that.
The goal yesterday looked great, but I can assure you that it's very easy to go past moreno.
Oh, and getting past Alisson and VVD is easy too?
Hazard is the best player in the world for now .without him now chelsea can not win any game so in the world he is the best for now. Once he carry ball many players are afraid of him even afraid to come close to him to avoid disgrace . He is the best for now
It's unreal what he can do with such little space on the pitch
Wait... Woah woah there Bellamy, what is the "Chelsea mentality"?? Winning that's our mentality... So let me get this straight, the club prioritize winning, the fans want to win, what other push from another club does he need?
Well...look at Mr.Olympia award for Bodybuilder they're now focus on the size not the aesthetic back on Arnold Schwarzenegger's era...now in Football to recognize the Best Football Player of the Year/Ballon D'Or are statistics...remember Rybery, Neuer, Iniesta they deserved it aside from statistics such as how many accurate passes, how many saves, how many goals or assists,...
Simple, yes
It's not even a debate.
Hazard has gone into the "Chelsea mentality" really?! well winning ain't trophies ain't bad at all and if he continues like this I am not complaining..if this is the "Chelsea mentality" I am loving it!
Hazard is 110% the best player in the Prem but he is also one of the kindest players in the Prem together with Kanté :)
How many goals did Modric score in the whole of last season that made him the best player now,i bet if Hazard had gone to the world cup final he would have been no doubt the best player of the tournament and also the best in the world right now and Salah with his goals won't have coz no trophies to back the goals up.
Yessssssss he is
If you think Messi doesn't have selfish mentality you only watch highlights! He would dribble into the box & put the ball inside the net. Hazard will dribble into the box & give a striker to finish it. His goal yesterday has made Messi whom he is today & therefore Eden must continue if he wants to be the best. I love that dude though!!!
Wrong judgement from them...As a coach,if you are asked to choose between Salah and Hazard which will you pick? Everyday I will go for Hazard
Eden hazard is the greatest of all times
Best player in the world on current form. People talk about him not being consistent, but he has had 6 months in his entire career where he played poorly.
Hopefully signs a new contract, he seems happy. Chelsea are on the up, playing some fantastic football, he doesnt need to move imo.
World's best at the moment
Every Eden video is a blessing hihihiii
Hazard is best in the league. Many of times he has been a victim of the defensive coaching style. However, if the coaching tactic is attack minded, there is no limit for him.
YES!
He WAS & is the best in the epl
Hazard doesn’t need to go to ‘one of the really big clubs in Europe’ he’s going to help Chelsea become one of them
Next Sky Sports debate: *Why isn’t 11 pronounced “onety-one”?*
Always knew Hazard was world class since he was at Lille. This is nothing new. He needs the right players around him just like Messi had
In form hazard is best hazard, can get up there in goals.
*has one good game*
Has Hazard ever scored 20+ league goals? no
Will Hazard ever score 20+ league every season no?
Virgin take
Hazard is worldclass, but Jones is from another planet.
If had didn’t have mourinho and conte he’d be so much higher on goals
No but the best in the world 🔥🌏
Skillful hazard
Yes.
Going past Moreno is like going past a division 3 player.
Why is this a debate?
One mistake though, I think you guys meant the world not the premier league
Hazard just thinks “I just want to play beautiful football”. He really just isn’t interested in being ‘the man’, just wants to be happy and play football. The only reason that we’ve held onto him is because the club has bought into the way he wants to play, he has a lot of friends at the club and is happy with his family life in London/ Surrey.
Blame Chelsea for hiring defensive managers.
It'd be easier for hazard to bag all those goals if he were in la liga
Hazard, Bale, Neymar, Mbappe etc are all just below Ronaldo/Messi but there's no doubt some of them will soon become the best in the world. Bale may have already peaked but he is still world class. Neymar has so much talent but flops around too much. Mbappe looks like a world beater but is still very young and inexperienced so right now Hazard is probably the 3rd best in the world.
Well at the WORLD CUP both Hazard and KDB played n wn both r at their best,its hard to choose, hazard z mre pleasing to the eye esp dribbling n mvng past players, hweva Kdb is a genius at picking delicious passes tt change games. In e end wn one is at their very best, they mk u frgt abt all others
To be the best he has to be consistent , which he is not . How many different managers has messi and ronaldo had ? Yet year in year out they perform . Hazard had a sook with conte and mourinho and decided not to play his best
Have to he selfish? Salah wasn't selfish. Messi rarely is selfish. I feel it's the Chelsea setup. If hazard was at any other top team he's score just as much as he assists. Reason players score often from wide is the managers give them the freedom to. Hazard should of gone real, he would of fitted in like a duck to water.
Playing devils advocate: why is it that he does one thing and people call him the best player? Surely the best player in the PL should be much more consistent ?
Is this even a debate? Of course he is, by a country mile
His best and last season
The simple answer is no. Unless KDB is injured. So as of right now yes. Confused? Good
He won’t leave
Hazard is hazardous
Hazard is the best premier league player. (From a Man Utd fan)
Stop judging hazard on goals. He isn’t a goalscorer he’s so unselfish judge him of chances created and dribbles and MOTM awards
yes.
Why on Earth they always think Hazard gotta move away? Pathetic
At the moment in my opinion, Lionel Messi is the best player in the world and then it’s Eden Hazard. Overall, it’s Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and then Eden Hazard
Video should have ended after 45 seconds. He's the best in the league.
of course he is
Inarguably he is the bst