mike woods Don’t be fooled by the camera. The grades, which are only 1 in 40 maximum, are so gentle and you can hardly feel them and the same with the curves.
The only thing I thought would be more effective is that gradients would have been eliminated with simultaneous level crossing removals at some spots like for example Regent. It got left out real bad :( I also notice that if Keon Park’s got removed Thomastown might have a removal potential too but they decided to rebuild Thomastown station already...
Been using the Mernda (when it was Epping) line since I was a kid and have never seen it from the drivers perspective... thanks for uploading it. It would be nice to see it with the new Reservoir station some day.
A busy time of day, with trains running only 1 or 2 minutes apart. I understand that the camera lens makes the train seem slow, but it does appear that they stop and start quite gently. Easier on the equipment, I suppose, but quite unlike some other urban rail systems. With all the twists and turns and with many stops close together, higher speed is impractical. I note some stations platforms on curves - one must really "mind the gap"!
On the South Morang Line as of 2018, the Mernda Rail Extension from South Morang to Mernda was completed which included 3 new stations at Middle Gorge, Hawkstowe and Mernda. Middle Gorge Station was built on ground level and Hawkstowe and Mernda Stations were built above ground with skyrail. And that train line is now called the Mernda Line. And as of 2019, the level crossing at High Street, Reservoir was removed by building an elevated rail bridge with a new elevated Reservoir Station. Then as of 2022, the 4 level crossings at Murray Road, Cramer Street, Bell Street and Oakover Road in Preston were removed by building a 2 km elevated rail bridge with 2 new elevated stations at Bell and Preston. Now under construction, is the level crossing removal at Keon Parade, Keon Park which will be removed by 2025 by building an elevated rail bridge with a new elevated Keon Park Station.
Thanks for posting! I had to travel between Balaclava and Epping as a teen back in the 90s. Epping was end of the line, a shed on the platform in a cow filled paddock! Travel time was 90mins each way.
@@tressteleg1 5:41 am - Balaclava 18 min wait till .... 6:14 am from Flinders. Trains left on time most of the time. The biggest inconvenience were the train strikes all the time! Horrible old blue carriages were like ovens in the summer and freezers in the winter. Full of rubbish and cigarette smoke. Kids spraying graffiti in the carriages, junkies injecting under the seats! Transport officers would beat the shit out of your ticket had expired, even by 5 mins. Nah, way way better today. No queuing for tickets, myki is a way better system. Cleaner carriages with climate control, drivers tell you whats going on when there is a delay, hardly any train strikes. People seem to be less resilient now days and start whining when a train is not up to impeccable standards. I don't know how they would have coped 25 years ago!
Great video and very good to see that Victoria is doing away with many railway level crossings. I can’t wait to see the end of Murray rd level crossing at Preston Station, you beauty!!
I can agree about the being from Melbourne. Although it is starting to get better with the upgrades and crossing removals. Luckily we have Sydney covered when it comes to trams :)
As more stations are rebuilt with Skyrail, platforms are being built with straight edges. As the lines become fully grade separated and fenced, with very narrow gaps at the platform edge (only possible if it’s straight), the possibility of installing platform screen doors and introducing driverless operations opens up - a la Sydney’s M1 Hills District line. At that point there’s basically no reason to run infrequent services off-peak.
Thanks for the signal explanations, have always wondered what the various combinations of colours meant. Also, what is the section of double rail in between the main rails that starts and ends with a point ?.
thankyou for the answer, I have seen others ask the same question but never saw a reply, all is explained. I just did the Frankston run and passed the signals and speed boards test, sometimes hard to see. Much concentration needed. Cheers.
fireslayer 😊. I don’t know what you are watching the video on but if you can stream it through to your big TV the signals would be much easier to see I think.
Interesting to see the anti-SPAD device tied into the signalling (The little white construction beside the left-hand rail) - 24:22 is a nice example: if a train passes a signal at Danger, the brakes are in tripped on by this mechanism and the train stops (in theory) 😰 Remarkable to see West Richmond station so clearly from North Richmond!
@@NevilleChand I don't think that is it. It is slow because the trains are running at a slow speed. Maybe someone can enlighten us to the actual speeds but the fastest i saw was 70km/h.
Jasper de Laat Thanks. I suspect that from what I have heard that drivers are no longer taught Up and Down at least in some states. Nevertheless Up is towards the city and Down is towards the bush 😊
@@tressteleg1 I see! You should take a look at House Train's channel, he has a couple of Metro driver's view videos where they mention those directions.
Jasper de Laat Yes I have seen a couple of his videos but don’t get much time to look at anybody’s videos in fact. A few of us think he gets hold of official training videos from the wide range of lines etc.
29:47, what appears to be green coated cyclone fencing as a reasonable way to discourage graffiti. it needs to be more securely mounted. and i'd suggest another layer suspended about 50 mm off the first layer. if they want to tag through it, it is very wasteful of their paint. they can't steal all of it. it costs them lots of money to be shitheads.
@@megaloblabber2948, i think having some legal places to paint is good. tagging trains and fences is a different matter. there are big fines. some infamous yank tagger copped a 6 month sentence on his first offence. remember there are far more serious crimes than tagging. if these taggers set out to do objects of art instead of just scribbling their name we'd think differently. note the grain silos with blue heelers and such things painted on them. they were done by graffiti "artists". the house i live in used to be a favourite spot for graffiti. it got painted over almost immediately. as a result, there are places where the paint is about 10mm thick
It is a safety feature to prevent the wheels from diverging off the tracks in the event of a derailment. Usually found on bridges and sharp curves, maybe here to protect the platform faces
Signaling blocks are too widely separated, however modern track, good fencing. Level crossings all have to be removed, lot of on the cheap construction when first built. Melbourne is very flat could have been built with much straighter track, some areas are very humpy, I've caught trains on this line from Reservoir, in the early 60's, It was an "outer suburb" in those days. The section between Reservoir and Melbourne is still a little ricketty, fencing missing in places. The curves and points at Clifton Hill were poorly thought out, turn of the century engineering, a few very close spaced stations.
Parts of the track are modern but there are still miles of wooden sleepers which disappeared from Sydney years ago. Also miles of unfenced track seem to cause no problems. Brisbane fenced lines have had deaths where people cut holes to cross tracks. Apparently the signal problem is irregular spacing. Seems Sydney is more even which helps headways. A few lines have speed, but mostly trains just amble along.
Only just seeing these now so I am not sure how many level crossings have been removed but that is extraordinary! I don’t think there are any left in Sydney, Leumeah perhaps being the last one.
Even in the 60s, there was just a few in Sydney. The one behind Liverpool Hospital which is still there, another I think around Merrylands, while others at Como, National Park, and the Parramatta Road crossing of the Carlingford line are all now history. Additionally I think there are some on the Richmond line and that is about all in the suburban area. Melbourne would still have dozens.
There is one out there somewhere, or was earlier this year, but not living in Sydney for decades, I don’t recall exactly where except that it was on one of the lines that gets to Liverpool from the city.
I thought it looked slow while preparing the video but it possibly has something to do with the camera angle. So it is probably faster than it looks in the video.
@@mjames4709 Nope. Asia is across the water above us. It seems that a city of 5 million people is not big enough to be more internationally known. But if you are from the USA, a lack of knowledge is not surprising.
@@mjames4709 Melbourne does have a noticeable Asian population added to by university students from Asian countries, especially China- when they are allowed to come here!
When more of the platform was in use, that left turn was to go around any train standing in the next bit of platform. They have simply not bothered to tidy up the tracks to suit today. Why bother?, they say, it still works ☹️
Hi tressteleg1 love the video but could not stand travelling on that line every day if that is the speed you have to endure, what is the reason for the snales pace? You can see why people drive!
I guess you realise that the last few stations on that Mernda line are the rebuilding of a line originally opened very many years ago, but probably due to housing along the old alignment, they couldn’t do much to straighten or level it much.
@@brianmcgill7314 There are several videos taken at Keon Park in 2023 and the newest is in December of that year. As I was in Melbourne in January, that is probably the newest he had at that time which means there is a very good chance I will get the present situation from him when I visit Melbourne probably sometime just after Christmas. So we will all have to wait.
The new outer section is revival of an old line with bridges added. These videos show that many lines have hills and bends which the passenger does not notice.
If you go to the 5:05 time point, you will soon see precisely what train we are riding. This type of train has a fairly ordinary single tone honk. The Comeng has a multi tone squawk. The “gear noise“ you are hearing is purely electronic and at times sounds overpoweringly weird. The third type of train in general service is the Siemens and the electronic sounds are much less, but their horn is fairly similar to that of this type of train. The Comeng trains are the only ones with discernible gear sounds, and these are heard on acceleration, and generally on braking as well. Unfortunately the Comeng trains are already being phased out as new trains arrive. Once you get away from the city area, you may see Comeng tains on a line, but only ever one of the two types of modern trains as well.
@@tressteleg1 I'd love to go ride one but sadly I live in Toronto where we're still using diesel hauled carriages (not bad ones but their an old design now) and don't see being able to travel to Aus for a while yet.
@anareel4562 Ah yes, Toronto. I’ve been there once or twice and thought I put the video on RUclips, but apparently not. I do remember the “watermelon“ double deck carriages but don’t remember the motive power. Perhaps they are not run by TTC and still in the dark ages of noisy smelly diesel engines - that’s unfortunate. Unfortunately travel these days seems to be quite expensive as I think that airlines are still still trying to catch up on lost income during Covid, so a trip this far would be expensive for you, I expect. Maybe one day. I don’t think that any new trains are being delivered to Melbourne at present and the next batch is still in the development stage so the Comeng trains should last for a while yet.
@@tressteleg1 their allegedly planning on electrifying the GO Transit network on most core lines, granted this is Toronto where we talk about a project for 75+ years before doing anything (Ontario Line/Downtown Relief Line). I think they us EMD MP45s I think, I miss the old GP38s, my dad used to work for GO Transit years ago, I was allowed to operate a GP38 at the age of like 7 or 8, the 90s was a different time.
@@anareel4562 Sounds nice, but as you say, when? Talk is pretty cheap here too, but things do happen from time to time, both rail and tram. I’m not familiar with those loco types, don’t follow diesels closely. ‘Sly drives’ here were much easier in the 80s, but cameras everywhere and rules being enforced have made it almost impossible now. Even cab rides by off-duty employees forbidden now.
Awesome Video Mate you finally did drive view from Mernda to Melbourne I saw your Video last time you did drive view from Melbourne to Mernda good job?
@@tressteleg1 Ok Thank you i'm just letting you know that i know Reservoir Station is already finished. It need more works to do around the Station and Carpark and Lift and Landscape in front of Entrance it's finished on Mid 2020 this year on January i can't wait for it?
Was this an old line refurbished, lots of new infrastructure, gee some of those platforms are dodgy and those curves, more for trams. Maybe try a different lense of your camera.
The Telephoto/Wide Angle setting determines that. As the driver is risking his job taking these for us, I happily accept whatever he sends to me. This was made a few years ago, and he may be using ‘better’ settings now.
I think the driver is scared he might get a speeding ticket, and the tracks from Mernda feel like you are on the scenic railway, You go up, you go down you turn to the left, then you turn to the right. This journey should be marketed as an amusement park ride.............
Despite what it looks like through the camera, the grades are so slight, 1/40 and curves so gentle that when you are riding, you barely notice it going up and down.
Melbourne did have a four car double-decker train. Do a Google search about 4D train Melbourne. I think its biggest problem was that the whole concept of double-decker trains was a Sydney idea. Their choice to remain as a single deck system is causing them to pay dearly now with overloaded trains in the peak hour and reducing the number of seats to provide more standing space. Melbourne. The place not to be.
@@tressteleg1 typical. The average person paying for a stupid rivalry, that nobody really cares about. Sadly, compared to Europe, and parts of the US, we do urban rail really poorly in terms of infrastructure, timetabling, and overall services.
I expect that on the world stage our urban rail does not rate very highly except perhaps compared with the US where only a few cities have any urban rail at all.
Yes same builder but heavily modified to make it compatible with Comeng trains. I heard once that that was the a major factor in its unreliability. And one-off trains and trams are usually hated by most drivers and maintenance people. So it was doomed from the start. Cut up early 2000s.
Can I use footage you filmed of the old Reservoir Station for a "Who grew up in Reservoir" FB page. I will place a credit and and request people come to your page, subscribe and like.
James Tulk Wait and see what my driver has when I see him next month but he is aware of the interest in Reservoir. I will include part of the Before video recently published when I do a Before During and After Video, probably in March. But if you want to include my existing video under the conditions you have promised, that is OK by me.
bristwenty I mentioned this to the driver who takes the video but what he already has for me next month is unknown, and it could be similar. There is over 200 Gig waiting for me. Wait and see,
I think the same way, but it just depends who I am speaking to as to what I call it. Eventually we will all have to change or nobody will know what we’re talking about. After all, if you mentioned the Bank of New South Wales, who would know you mean Westpac?
Yeah, Melbourne Central, which in fact is hardly in the middle of the city, but as the museum itself is no longer across the road, I guess the name Museum had to go.
The Victorian rail system is back to the 1950 s ! Lack of investment and privatisation make it a joke compared to NSW. THE SUBURBAN carriages are antiquated. The stations are from socialist Eastern Europe. Tragic. Plus a bizarre gauge of 5 foot 3 inches.
NSW and Victoria had agreed that both would have broad gauge. But NSW changed to standard gauge after Victoria had already built and had purchased rolling stock on Australia's first rail line. Yes, NSW grabs most of the Federal funding for these infrastructure projects.
When these lines were built, stations were often close together, but try closing any stations today and there would be massive whinging. Surrey Hills/Mont Albert people were not happy losing theirs.
Longest rollercoaster ever, up, down, left, right. Great video love the captions well done from Wales
mike woods Don’t be fooled by the camera. The grades, which are only 1 in 40 maximum, are so gentle and you can hardly feel them and the same with the curves.
The only thing I thought would be more effective is that gradients would have been eliminated with simultaneous level crossing removals at some spots like for example Regent. It got left out real bad :( I also notice that if Keon Park’s got removed Thomastown might have a removal potential too but they decided to rebuild Thomastown station already...
Been using the Mernda (when it was Epping) line since I was a kid and have never seen it from the drivers perspective... thanks for uploading it. It would be nice to see it with the new Reservoir station some day.
New Reservoir will be covered when I get video from the driver, maybe in March.
When did Epping extend to Mernda?
Tom Marvan 2018 I believe. Wikipedia could no doubt tell you the exact date.
@@TomMarvan The line got extended from Epping to South Morang in 2012, and 6 years later the South Morang line got extended to the now Mernda line.
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I thought the Dandenong line was slow back in the 70's but that one takes the cake, way too many stations so close together
A busy time of day, with trains running only 1 or 2 minutes apart. I understand that the camera lens makes the train seem slow, but it does appear that they stop and start quite gently. Easier on the equipment, I suppose, but quite unlike some other urban rail systems. With all the twists and turns and with many stops close together, higher speed is impractical.
I note some stations platforms on curves - one must really "mind the gap"!
Thanks for this, great video!
Did you know that the curve at 33:00 is the sharpest in the suburban system
You are probably right about the sharpness.
I think that used to be the old junction to the line that ran through Fiztroy, you can still see the gantry.
AuMechanic yes it was, it was a rail triangle to the inner circle line
Yep. Rumour is that a little while ago, there was a derailment there. A test vehicle was sent to check it and it derailed too...
Probably stuffed track 😊
On the South Morang Line as of 2018, the Mernda Rail Extension from South Morang to Mernda was completed which included 3 new stations at Middle Gorge, Hawkstowe and Mernda. Middle Gorge Station was built on ground level and Hawkstowe and Mernda Stations were built above ground with skyrail. And that train line is now called the Mernda Line.
And as of 2019, the level crossing at High Street, Reservoir was removed by building an elevated rail bridge with a new elevated Reservoir Station.
Then as of 2022, the 4 level crossings at Murray Road, Cramer Street, Bell Street and Oakover Road in Preston were removed by building a 2 km elevated rail bridge with 2 new elevated stations at Bell and Preston.
Now under construction, is the level crossing removal at Keon Parade, Keon Park which will be removed by 2025 by building an elevated rail bridge with a new elevated Keon Park Station.
Thanks for posting!
I had to travel between Balaclava and Epping as a teen back in the 90s. Epping was end of the line, a shed on the platform in a cow filled paddock! Travel time was 90mins each way.
😊👍. It would probably be even slower today...
@@tressteleg1
5:41 am - Balaclava
18 min wait till ....
6:14 am from Flinders.
Trains left on time most of the time. The biggest inconvenience were the train strikes all the time!
Horrible old blue carriages were like ovens in the summer and freezers in the winter. Full of rubbish and cigarette smoke. Kids spraying graffiti in the carriages, junkies injecting under the seats!
Transport officers would beat the shit out of your ticket had expired, even by 5 mins.
Nah, way way better today. No queuing for tickets, myki is a way better system. Cleaner carriages with climate control, drivers tell you whats going on when there is a delay, hardly any train strikes. People seem to be less resilient now days and start whining when a train is not up to impeccable standards. I don't know how they would have coped 25 years ago!
graphite Thanks for all of that. Times have changed. Some better, some worse, and some just as useless as ever.
Some 38 years ago used to work in that shed in the paddock😅.
@freeagent8225 😊👍
Great as always , but what are the tracks in between the two main rails on departure from Mernda?
IDQ198 They are kit
They are to catch derailed wheels and prevent the train from going over the side of the bridge in nearly all situations.
@@tressteleg1 thanks for the reply and I really enjoy your videos.
IDQ198 😊
Watching from Queens 👸 New York USA 🇺🇸. Excellent piece of video. Nice 👍 trains 🚞 🚊 🚂 . Clean 🧽 🧼 Thank you 🙏 for uploading. I’m a subscriber.
I’m glad you liked it. If you check my Playlists you will find a lot more like this. 😊👍🇦🇺
Great video and very good to see that Victoria is doing away with many railway level crossings. I can’t wait to see the end of Murray rd level crossing at Preston Station, you beauty!!
Nick Daskalakis Thanks. Some like it, some think the line is rubbish but I suppose that is another matter altogether.
Sydney's rail network is several generations ahead of Melbourne, Melbourne is where Sydney was in the 50's.
I can agree about the being from Melbourne. Although it is starting to get better with the upgrades and crossing removals. Luckily we have Sydney covered when it comes to trams :)
Sydney went backwards removing trams
As more stations are rebuilt with Skyrail, platforms are being built with straight edges. As the lines become fully grade separated and fenced, with very narrow gaps at the platform edge (only possible if it’s straight), the possibility of installing platform screen doors and introducing driverless operations opens up - a la Sydney’s M1 Hills District line.
At that point there’s basically no reason to run infrequent services off-peak.
Sydney is in the 70s, Hong Kong is way ahead of Sydney.
Melbourne still has trains that were operating when I went to high school 30 fuckin years ago, you can imagine how gross they are.
Thanks for the signal explanations, have always wondered what the various combinations of colours meant. Also, what is the section of double rail in between the main rails that starts and ends with a point ?.
fireslayer The rails are to catch a derailed wheel and stop the train falling over the side of the bridge.
thankyou for the answer, I have seen others ask the same question but never saw a reply, all is explained. I just did the Frankston run and passed the signals and speed boards test, sometimes hard to see. Much concentration needed. Cheers.
fireslayer 😊. I don’t know what you are watching the video on but if you can stream it through to your big TV the signals would be much easier to see I think.
So is there gonna be an after crossing removals vid?
Not until my driver videos it and I get the result. Maybe in March.
@@tressteleg1 Why are they being removed?
Because level crossing delay road traffic, at least very much more than trains which nevertheless can get some benefits.
Interesting to see the anti-SPAD device tied into the signalling (The little white construction beside the left-hand rail) - 24:22 is a nice example: if a train passes a signal at Danger, the brakes are in tripped on by this mechanism and the train stops (in theory) 😰
Remarkable to see West Richmond station so clearly from North Richmond!
Thanks for posting
tressteleg1, also loved the old stanchions along the journey
😊👍 Some of the stanchions would date from the original electrification early 1920s.
Have you been able to get anything with driver view on the new Preston sky rail yet?........
At the moment unfortunately there is a bit of a problem with more recent videos from both Sydney and Melbourne.
For some reason it looks rly slow to me
VincentKoh LUMCFan Telephoto / zoomed in lens makes forward motion appear slower compared to the human eye.
VincentKoh LUMCFan Looks like it’s zoomed in which results in the ride looking slower
@@NevilleChand I don't think that is it. It is slow because the trains are running at a slow speed. Maybe someone can enlighten us to the actual speeds but the fastest i saw was 70km/h.
The sound of the motors would indicate that it is travelling much faster than it seems.
Nice, a city-bound video! I believe it's called up/down direction over there? Always confuse the two, haha :P
Jasper de Laat Thanks. I suspect that from what I have heard that drivers are no longer taught Up and Down at least in some states. Nevertheless Up is towards the city and Down is towards the bush 😊
@@tressteleg1 I see! You should take a look at House Train's channel, he has a couple of Metro driver's view videos where they mention those directions.
Jasper de Laat Yes I have seen a couple of his videos but don’t get much time to look at anybody’s videos in fact. A few of us think he gets hold of official training videos from the wide range of lines etc.
I believe all his videos are training videos from what I've seen! Most of his titles say they are training videos from a specific year.
Brian Mcdonald Thanks for that. 😊
I’m watching this right now as I ride the Sunbury line
Don’t miss your station 😊
29:47, what appears to be green coated cyclone fencing as a reasonable way to discourage graffiti. it needs to be more securely mounted. and i'd suggest another layer suspended about 50 mm off the first layer. if they want to tag through it, it is very wasteful of their paint. they can't steal all of it. it costs them lots of money to be shitheads.
Yes. I also find it very stupid Melbourne encourages graffiti in places where it's legal. It ruins the look of an otherwise beautiful city
@@megaloblabber2948, i think having some legal places to paint is good. tagging trains and fences is a different matter. there are big fines. some infamous yank tagger copped a 6 month sentence on his first offence. remember there are far more serious crimes than tagging. if these taggers set out to do objects of art instead of just scribbling their name we'd think differently. note the grain silos with blue heelers and such things painted on them. they were done by graffiti "artists". the house i live in used to be a favourite spot for graffiti. it got painted over almost immediately. as a result, there are places where the paint is about 10mm thick
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What’s with the track in the middle just past the station, in between the two main tracks for the wheels?
It is a safety feature to prevent the wheels from diverging off the tracks in the event of a derailment. Usually found on bridges and sharp curves, maybe here to protect the platform faces
Has Reseirvor Station been Rebuilt in Recent ( Not Regent!) Times?
Is the driver afraid of getting a speeding ticket? It's so slow!
Sierra Hotel As the train was almost on time at Flinders Street, it seems that the problem was the camera setting.
Good Video 👍 A very short distance between North und West Richmond Station. Seems like about 400 meters🤔
Peter Leidgen Probably just a few train lengths. I suppose there must have been some reason for it in the 1800s.
@@tressteleg1 😉
Nice to see a video from the other side of the world. Greetz from the Netherlands. Joachim - TrainJJ
I’m pleased that you liked it. If you can find my Playlists, you will see a lot more. 😊
Signaling blocks are too widely separated, however modern track, good fencing.
Level crossings all have to be removed, lot of on the cheap construction when first built.
Melbourne is very flat could have been built with much straighter track, some areas are very humpy,
I've caught trains on this line from Reservoir, in the early 60's, It was an "outer suburb" in those days.
The section between Reservoir and Melbourne is still a little ricketty, fencing missing in places.
The curves and points at Clifton Hill were poorly thought out, turn of the century engineering, a few very close spaced stations.
Parts of the track are modern but there are still miles of wooden sleepers which disappeared from Sydney years ago. Also miles of unfenced track seem to cause no problems. Brisbane fenced lines have had deaths where people cut holes to cross tracks. Apparently the signal problem is irregular spacing. Seems Sydney is more even which helps headways. A few lines have speed, but mostly trains just amble along.
How long did the trip last including stops?
Sweetener Boulevard It took 55 minutes, one more than the timetable promised.
Only just seeing these now so I am not sure how many level crossings have been removed but that is extraordinary! I don’t think there are any left in Sydney, Leumeah perhaps being the last one.
Even in the 60s, there was just a few in Sydney. The one behind Liverpool Hospital which is still there, another I think around Merrylands, while others at Como, National Park, and the Parramatta Road crossing of the Carlingford line are all now history. Additionally I think there are some on the Richmond line and that is about all in the suburban area. Melbourne would still have dozens.
@@tressteleg1 Yes, very true. There was one at Merrylands and Guildford, all gone now.
There is one out there somewhere, or was earlier this year, but not living in Sydney for decades, I don’t recall exactly where except that it was on one of the lines that gets to Liverpool from the city.
feels a lil a bit slow for a train
I thought it looked slow while preparing the video but it possibly has something to do with the camera angle. So it is probably faster than it looks in the video.
What's the distance between the power poles? Simple matter to calculate the speed from that.
I was about to comment the same thing until I saw this. Hurry up! 😆
Most stations on this line are less than 1km apart
The length between the sleepers is around 2.5 - 3ft.
Why are the crossings being removed?
Richard Woods Officially to help the trains, but in reality to help the motorists.
Why is it moving so fast ? Should slow down a bit.....
The train should go as slow so the butterfly’s can freely fly in and out the windows
Is Melbourne greener than Sydney ?
Should be more roof coverage on the stations.
Those inclines at the start are ridiculously steep!
If you think 1:40 is ridiculously steep then they must be. That is the maximum grade on those hills. As a passenger, you can hardly feel them.
Without many level crossing, Melbourne metro system looks much more modern
What country is this? Australia?
Harshal Gaming Yes.
What country is this in?
Australia
lol, I thought it was in Asia somewhere??@@tressteleg1
@@mjames4709 Nope. Asia is across the water above us. It seems that a city of 5 million people is not big enough to be more internationally known. But if you are from the USA, a lack of knowledge is not surprising.
It just looks like an Asian country given the passengers? @@tressteleg1
@@mjames4709 Melbourne does have a noticeable Asian population added to by university students from Asian countries, especially China- when they are allowed to come here!
Is this realtime? These trains are terribly slow!
I think that somehow the camera makes it look a lot slower than it really is.
Speed limit is 80 km/h along most of this line.
46:07 ... What's the story behind the pile of soil dumped on the track so the train has to negotiate several sets of points to go round it?
When more of the platform was in use, that left turn was to go around any train standing in the next bit of platform. They have simply not bothered to tidy up the tracks to suit today. Why bother?, they say, it still works ☹️
I would also add that the mernda and hurstbridge lines really need to be separated from each other.
Hi tressteleg1 love the video but could not stand travelling on that line every day if that is the speed you have to endure, what is the reason for the snales pace? You can see why people drive!
Sometimes the camera zoom setting makes the trip look slower than it really years. Nevertheless Melbourne lines often don’t have spectacular speeds.
Very unusual line, lots rises snd falls in close proximity
I guess you realise that the last few stations on that Mernda line are the rebuilding of a line originally opened very many years ago, but probably due to housing along the old alignment, they couldn’t do much to straighten or level it much.
Can you show us from Thornbury Thomastown please 😮
Present day of course
@@brianmcgill7314 I will have to check and see if anything recent has been sent to me.
@@tressteleg1 you’ll be a legend if you have 🙃😁
@@brianmcgill7314 There are several videos taken at Keon Park in 2023 and the newest is in December of that year. As I was in Melbourne in January, that is probably the newest he had at that time which means there is a very good chance I will get the present situation from him when I visit Melbourne probably sometime just after Christmas. So we will all have to wait.
@@tressteleg1 I’m after drivers view, I’ve seen the video of the newly opened station 🚉
@@brianmcgill7314 I realise that. And as I said, I won’t have any new video this year. Not about this line anyway.
Up and down quite a lot. This line is not at all level!
Having said that, the elevation at 18:30 was quite unexpected.
The new outer section is revival of an old line with bridges added. These videos show that many lines have hills and bends which the passenger does not notice.
tressteleg1 is the camera zoomed in at all?
Picolinni I think it must be. The journey must be much quicker than it looks.
That would also exaggerate the inclines.
Picolinni Yes it does. The grades on that line are no steeper than 1:40. You barely notice that when riding.
Departing South Morang, it sounded like a comeng train.
At that speed, no wonder people are late for work.
Where is this?
JG-77 Melbourne Australia. I just changed the title.
That journey took almost 1 hour. It just seemed to be painfully slow.
tram or train? why so hard?
Andrejs Kokars It is a suburban electric train. It never runs in the street and must have high platforms.
think they will ever tidy up spaghetti junction aka caufield and flinders street and also get rid of the disused postal platforms and tracks?
DalekZ Maybe one day if they are really forced to, or it is the cheapest option when present tracks fall apart.
As a Canadian who's watched lots of these videos I'd have to guess we're onboard a Comeng by the electric motor sound
If you go to the 5:05 time point, you will soon see precisely what train we are riding. This type of train has a fairly ordinary single tone honk. The Comeng has a multi tone squawk. The “gear noise“ you are hearing is purely electronic and at times sounds overpoweringly weird. The third type of train in general service is the Siemens and the electronic sounds are much less, but their horn is fairly similar to that of this type of train. The Comeng trains are the only ones with discernible gear sounds, and these are heard on acceleration, and generally on braking as well. Unfortunately the Comeng trains are already being phased out as new trains arrive. Once you get away from the city area, you may see Comeng tains on a line, but only ever one of the two types of modern trains as well.
@@tressteleg1 I'd love to go ride one but sadly I live in Toronto where we're still using diesel hauled carriages (not bad ones but their an old design now) and don't see being able to travel to Aus for a while yet.
@anareel4562 Ah yes, Toronto. I’ve been there once or twice and thought I put the video on RUclips, but apparently not. I do remember the “watermelon“ double deck carriages but don’t remember the motive power. Perhaps they are not run by TTC and still in the dark ages of noisy smelly diesel engines - that’s unfortunate. Unfortunately travel these days seems to be quite expensive as I think that airlines are still still trying to catch up on lost income during Covid, so a trip this far would be expensive for you, I expect. Maybe one day. I don’t think that any new trains are being delivered to Melbourne at present and the next batch is still in the development stage so the Comeng trains should last for a while yet.
@@tressteleg1 their allegedly planning on electrifying the GO Transit network on most core lines, granted this is Toronto where we talk about a project for 75+ years before doing anything (Ontario Line/Downtown Relief Line). I think they us EMD MP45s I think, I miss the old GP38s, my dad used to work for GO Transit years ago, I was allowed to operate a GP38 at the age of like 7 or 8, the 90s was a different time.
@@anareel4562 Sounds nice, but as you say, when? Talk is pretty cheap here too, but things do happen from time to time, both rail and tram.
I’m not familiar with those loco types, don’t follow diesels closely.
‘Sly drives’ here were much easier in the 80s, but cameras everywhere and rules being enforced have made it almost impossible now. Even cab rides by off-duty employees forbidden now.
Awesome Video Mate you finally did drive view from Mernda to Melbourne I saw your Video last time you did drive view from Melbourne to Mernda good job?
I think you know that i am not the driver. But it is an interesting run.
tressteleg1 I know it good run and I think I'm nearly done filming of New Reservoir Stations?
Hassan Sayyab That’s good. I was wondering how you were going with it. When finished we can discuss getting it to me.
@@tressteleg1 Ok Thank you i'm just letting you know that i know Reservoir Station is already finished. It need more works to do around the Station and Carpark and Lift and Landscape in front of Entrance it's finished on Mid 2020 this year on January i can't wait for it?
Hassan Sayyab OK. I can see it myself end of February when I head south.
Nice one. 👍😊
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Was this an old line refurbished, lots of new infrastructure, gee some of those platforms are dodgy and those curves, more for trams. Maybe try a different lense of your camera.
What is it about the camera that exaggerates curves and slopes and also makes it seem slower?
The Telephoto/Wide Angle setting determines that. As the driver is risking his job taking these for us, I happily accept whatever he sends to me. This was made a few years ago, and he may be using ‘better’ settings now.
@@tressteleg1 is there a good reason they’re not allowed to share cab view videos?
The Rail Safety Act says quite clearly that no electronic devices may be used in the cab during a trip, no doubt excluding Official equipment.
I think the driver is scared he might get a speeding ticket, and the tracks from Mernda feel like you are on the scenic railway, You go up, you go down you turn to the left, then you turn to the right. This journey should be marketed as an amusement park ride.............
Despite what it looks like through the camera, the grades are so slight, 1/40 and curves so gentle that when you are riding, you barely notice it going up and down.
I've always found it surprising a city with the population of Melbourne, doesn't have double decker trains.
Melbourne did have a four car double-decker train. Do a Google search about 4D train Melbourne. I think its biggest problem was that the whole concept of double-decker trains was a Sydney idea. Their choice to remain as a single deck system is causing them to pay dearly now with overloaded trains in the peak hour and reducing the number of seats to provide more standing space. Melbourne. The place not to be.
@@tressteleg1 typical. The average person paying for a stupid rivalry, that nobody really cares about. Sadly, compared to Europe, and parts of the US, we do urban rail really poorly in terms of infrastructure, timetabling, and overall services.
@@tressteleg1 the 4D train looks like it was based on the T-set aka Tangara from Sydney.
I expect that on the world stage our urban rail does not rate very highly except perhaps compared with the US where only a few cities have any urban rail at all.
Yes same builder but heavily modified to make it compatible with Comeng trains. I heard once that that was the a major factor in its unreliability. And one-off trains and trams are usually hated by most drivers and maintenance people. So it was doomed from the start.
Cut up early 2000s.
What a really slow train?
36:20 two trains on the railroad crossing simultaneusly
Sweetener Boulevard Yes. It can happen.
please turn off the FOV. it distorts the image, making it hard to see how fast the train is going. other than that, a good video.
Nickolas Lewis Unfortunately I have no control over the camera but I have requested the driver not to use that setting.
Keep on trackin' .
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Happy new year 2020
🚊Nice video 👍
井上雅央 Thanks! Happy 2020 to you as well 😊
Can I use footage you filmed of the old Reservoir Station for a "Who grew up in Reservoir" FB page. I will place a credit and and request people come to your page, subscribe and like.
James Tulk Wait and see what my driver has when I see him next month but he is aware of the interest in Reservoir. I will include part of the Before video recently published when I do a Before During and After Video, probably in March. But if you want to include my existing video under the conditions you have promised, that is OK by me.
i wonder why they didn't just make an embankment to prevent all the large grades.
What for? Electric train can easily go up and down hills especially if they start from the top. It was different in the days of steam.
These flyovers look like an adhoc mess!
Telephoto makes things look a lot more cluttered than they really are.
Drivers have an uncanny knack for Zooming in. This is very annoying as it makes the speed feel slower than it is
bristwenty I mentioned this to the driver who takes the video but what he already has for me next month is unknown, and it could be similar. There is over 200 Gig waiting for me. Wait and see,
I think they should remove Croxton, Rushall, Collingwood and West Richmond stations because in that area the they are too close together.
While you are probably right, the locals may not be too keen on the idea!
@@tressteleg1 True I wouldn't be the most successful politician, but people in Mernda and Thomastown might like it.
@@TheGoldTitan Those stations are not as bad compared to Riversdale to Willison, now there is a station that SHOULD be removed
Will always call it Spencer St Station !
I think the same way, but it just depends who I am speaking to as to what I call it. Eventually we will all have to change or nobody will know what we’re talking about. After all, if you mentioned the Bank of New South Wales, who would know you mean Westpac?
@@tressteleg1 museum station in loop of course you know what it named now !
Yeah, Melbourne Central, which in fact is hardly in the middle of the city, but as the museum itself is no longer across the road, I guess the name Museum had to go.
i have trevelled on this train amzzing
Having edited this video I feel like I have ridden this line but in fact I don’t think I have! Next time I am in Melbourne...
@@tressteleg1 thanks
Gotta admit that the removal of level crossings has made the viewing duller
I get scared on in between Merri and Rushal
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Emon Arema I guess that you must have liked it 😊
Like riding a roller coaster
You can barely feel it when riding a train. The camera exaggerates.
Iff possible with map.
Amir Ali Dharani Try this - Blue Trains, Green trams. Give it time to open fully. melbournetransportmap.com/
The Victorian rail system is back to the 1950 s ! Lack of investment and privatisation make it a joke compared to NSW. THE SUBURBAN carriages are antiquated. The stations are from socialist Eastern Europe. Tragic. Plus a bizarre gauge of 5 foot 3 inches.
The carriages in this particular clip are amongst the newest on the network and probably less than 5 years old.
Must be nice to be a Sydneysider and not have the Federal government lock away your funding for 6 years
NSW and Victoria had agreed that both would have broad gauge. But NSW changed to standard gauge after Victoria had already built and had purchased rolling stock on Australia's first rail line.
Yes, NSW grabs most of the Federal funding for these infrastructure projects.
You could walk to work faster than riding this train! There is like a station every 500 feet!
When these lines were built, stations were often close together, but try closing any stations today and there would be massive whinging. Surrey Hills/Mont Albert people were not happy losing theirs.
greats train
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Jim yes like
So slow, definitely an incentive to cycle everywhere, or even walk fast, feck me
Nige C I believe that the camera setting makes it look slower than it really is.