I'M taking notes. Not a lot of angel media talks about nor considers the ranks. She might (I think one rank was the seraphim), but she's not the only one allowed to write about angels!!
Didn't she already botch what this dude is saying about heaven's social ladder with the way she displayed Cherubs as basically being the angelic version of imps? She'd have to completely remove them from upper tier and just merge thrones and seraphims in the same gray area she created
Hierarchy is not about power, but proximity to God. For example St. Michael is a Seraphim, but holds the rank of Archangel. He's a warrior who's fighting spiritual battles and isn't at God's throne singing praises. Yet he is the most powerful of all angels.
This classification was medieval adaptation of Jewish angelic hierarchy with author not exactly understanding how it work. It is why on one side you have terms like "Cherubim" and on another literal English like "Glories". In short Ophanim and Thrones are literally the same... and what Christian call Seraphim. They are seven avatars of God (it is why God say "we" in genesis), plus the trinity. Metatron, Raziel Helel and Sandelphon have both ranks of Archangel and Ophanim (Seraphim in Christianity). Living Beasts (Cherubim in Christianity) are quite weird because they have highest rank in Judaism (fallow only God), even if they clearly should have lowest (because they literally operate in the Creation), despite despite being clearly lesser then Ophanim. I have theory that someone incorrectly switch they position in the ranking. Christian classification by pure coincidence is correct, at least according to own logic. Archangels are not a rank and anyone who claim otherwise should leave. Archangels always were Prince of Heavens. Leaders selected from they ranks. And there is only seven of them. Plus the Trinity who also hold those ranks, but actually was delegated from the top (ophanim). The interesting part is that Archangels can change. At one point Michael replaced Samael (aka Satanael) in this role. All other ranks are actually mostly equal. Sources disagree if circles of heaven are actually closer to God or paralel, with exception of two. God's throne room is obviously closest and the Creation furthest. One interesting exception is the lowest rank so Malach... I mean generic Angels. Only native angels to Creation are Living Beasts. Angels are straight banned from entering here, under you know... being fallen as result. So regular Angels are only delegates from other circles who were temporarily send there. In case of Satan who become angel of death. Delegation is permanent, until final judgment when it actually fall.
@@TheRezro I thought I noticed things from Kabbalah and even Enoch. However, I take both with a huge grain of salt as neither are inspired by Holy Spirit. Although, christians should not practice Kabbalah. Magic was not given to us by God. Knowing lore is useful, sure, however as a christian, holding beliefs that are not supported by christianity can lead into dangerous practices so I tend to be very careful.
@@Valor1610 Kabbalah is not magic. It is a Jewish mysticism and a lot of its elements are in the bible. It is more that Jews have a lot more sources what are basically unknown to most Christians like Talmud. Tak a note that Christianity also do not support Rapture, War in Heaven or the Devil. Like, Lucifer is straight from pop-novel. And classification from this video is also from occult.
The description he gave, the "cute chubby angels" are actually called _putto_ (pl. putti). They frequently get _mislabeled_ as cherub/cherubim. *Actual* descriptions of cherubim mark them as four-legged beasts (similar to a Sphinx or Griffon), with backwards-facing wings. And their four heads "having a face of a man, lion, ox, and eagle".
@@omargoodman2999 It should be noted that some sources describe them as separate beings with those kind of heads or features. So it is kind of a debate here. I think it should be noted that they are parallel to Chinese Four Symbols: A serpent (Leviathan/Qinglong), a lion (Bael?/Baihu), a giant bird (Ziz/Zhuque) and a bull.. though older sources actually mention armored fish, so turtle? (Behemot/Genbu). What is even funnier they are lead by Golden Quilin (Lamb?) and Christian God also sit on emerald throne (in China Jade Emperor). Coincidence?
Virtues are literally the circles of heaven. They are represented by seven Archangels and Seraphims (not the same being). So: Humility, Kindness, Temperance, Chastity, Patience, Charity and Diligence. With exception of the Trinity (who are the same being), who represent Sacrum, Wisdom and Creation. Quite interestingly Primal Sins are the exact opposite of virtues, so: Pride, Envy, Gluttony, Lust, Wrath, Greed, Sloth and Ignorance (those are aspects of Creation).
@@ANDROLOMA Yeah sure bro, did your parents abandon you? I mean you literally tried accumulating attention in a Bible-related video about you being an "atheist". Like okay bro, nobody cares. 😭
Confusingly, Archangels don't just refer to the second lowest tier of angels, they also refer to the (two, three, four, or seven) most important angels, and most of those were also low-ranked angels before the war in heaven. So basically Michael was like a tier 2 angel, archangel, aboslutely low tier, and then when the most powerful and knowledgable angel God ever made: Lucifer, tried to get all the angels to worship him and rebel against God and Michael was the first guy to speak up and say something along the lines of "this is dumb, who is like unto God?" And then he charged Lucifer and knocked him out of heaven and then God made Michael the highest ranking angel.
so while they have a variety of role they can't be defined in term o power, the hierarchy doesn't really effect what they can do? like i mean an archangel so low in the rank has slain satan supposedly a cherub? right?
kinda similar but I they will be missing Seraphim(unless Lucifer is) and Ophanim. Cherubim is more vulnerable due to being 'laymen' and attuned to knowledge and power so they can be convinced into rebelling. Middle choir? Virtues(the weather) and Powers while unlikely can be part of it but imho I don't think there is a lot of them fallen. Lowest choir is most vulnerable due to proximity to humans, the 'prince of Persia' verse that a fallen one trying to block Gabriel from sending a message to the prophet Daniel made it obvious that there are fallen principalities... and considering how the world's nations have been acting, there is a lot of fallen principalities. Fallen lowest rank angels are definitely the majority of the unholy ones due to how far they are in proximity to God and are almost similar to humans in terms of 'free will' and vulnerability to temptation. It doesn't help that Satan formerly came from the highest choir and might be a cherub(attuned to wisdom and knowledge) thus crafty in arguing about their supposed legitimacy to usurp the 'stars of God'.
@@jayzenstyle Seraphim, Ophanim and Thrones are literally the same. People seams to not understand implications of Lucifer being one of them. Though Bible actually call Christ a Morning Star, so maybe it is? Anyway, Michael replaced Satanael as Archangel of Justice, when it become angel of Death.
The Cherubim with many eyes The cherubim with many eyes and winged Seraphim who veil their faces as they shout exultingly the hymn Alleluia Alleluia Alleluia Bairstow Let all mortal flesh keep silent
Humans blame God for own sins even today: God: So we need solve problem of that another tribe. I help you in dealing with them. Patriarch: Done. Here is the bag of they junks. God: Well... so I do not need those diplomatic notes then... maybe I move to Rome? Patriarch: I already start war with them. With your help, we would be victorious! God: ...sure. In a sense at least.
@@vafel1888 Christian clarification is basically poor adaptation from Judaism. Christian Seraphim, Ophanim and Thrones are literally the same. It is like asking if it is Potato or (the other) Potato?
One day out of curiosity I decided to read Revelations from start to finish. There is a reason that this book is so notorious as it was quite obviously written by a monk on magic mushrooms or who at the very least had a serious mental disorder. Nothing makes any sense and the whole tone of dread, awe and terror is so out of step with the rest of the New Testament that it is quite obviously a late addition purely for the twin purposes of filling it out and not incidentally to keep people in terror of "going over to the dark side". An unadulterated pile of steaming BS.
Alot of the reason why Revelations is confusing is because the early church removed the Book of Enoch which goes more in depth furthermore no body asked you to comment such a vile thing you may not believe in God but he believes in you
Also to collapse your point the Books of Enoch are in the Ethiopian Bible which is the oldest and most comprehensive Bible with multiples extra books. Being that Ethiopia has the oldest Christian community I'd say your unfounded allegations are clearly false
Vivienne Medrano is taking notes💀
I'M taking notes. Not a lot of angel media talks about nor considers the ranks. She might (I think one rank was the seraphim), but she's not the only one allowed to write about angels!!
@@faithstea ok..? I mean I never implied that she would be the only one allowed,I mentioned her because of inaccuracies in the show
Didn't she already botch what this dude is saying about heaven's social ladder with the way she displayed Cherubs as basically being the angelic version of imps? She'd have to completely remove them from upper tier and just merge thrones and seraphims in the same gray area she created
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Vivzie should take more Bible notes so shed know Seraphim is a PLURAL its Seraph also Seraphim are fucking flying Snakes LOL
Can you explain every subtype of OCD
Good idea
Viziepop:*starts talking notes*...
I don't think she ever will since these types of videos have been around RUclips for years already 💀
@@Purple-uknown it's a joke I already know this 😔
Woah ** its biggering look *iii*
Beautiful
But why?
Because why not?
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@@donchan1980 ty
Good the more we know about myths the more we can look into the future
Bro is suicidal
Hierarchy is not about power, but proximity to God.
For example St. Michael is a Seraphim, but holds the rank of Archangel. He's a warrior who's fighting spiritual battles and isn't at God's throne singing praises. Yet he is the most powerful of all angels.
This classification was medieval adaptation of Jewish angelic hierarchy with author not exactly understanding how it work. It is why on one side you have terms like "Cherubim" and on another literal English like "Glories".
In short Ophanim and Thrones are literally the same... and what Christian call Seraphim. They are seven avatars of God (it is why God say "we" in genesis), plus the trinity. Metatron, Raziel Helel and Sandelphon have both ranks of Archangel and Ophanim (Seraphim in Christianity).
Living Beasts (Cherubim in Christianity) are quite weird because they have highest rank in Judaism (fallow only God), even if they clearly should have lowest (because they literally operate in the Creation), despite despite being clearly lesser then Ophanim. I have theory that someone incorrectly switch they position in the ranking. Christian classification by pure coincidence is correct, at least according to own logic.
Archangels are not a rank and anyone who claim otherwise should leave. Archangels always were Prince of Heavens. Leaders selected from they ranks. And there is only seven of them. Plus the Trinity who also hold those ranks, but actually was delegated from the top (ophanim). The interesting part is that Archangels can change. At one point Michael replaced Samael (aka Satanael) in this role.
All other ranks are actually mostly equal. Sources disagree if circles of heaven are actually closer to God or paralel, with exception of two. God's throne room is obviously closest and the Creation furthest.
One interesting exception is the lowest rank so Malach... I mean generic Angels. Only native angels to Creation are Living Beasts. Angels are straight banned from entering here, under you know... being fallen as result. So regular Angels are only delegates from other circles who were temporarily send there. In case of Satan who become angel of death. Delegation is permanent, until final judgment when it actually fall.
@@TheRezro What are the sources of that information? I would like to research more.
@@Valor1610 Theology is literal black hole... you could at least start with general info about Kabbalah and history of early Christianity.
@@TheRezro I thought I noticed things from Kabbalah and even Enoch. However, I take both with a huge grain of salt as neither are inspired by Holy Spirit.
Although, christians should not practice Kabbalah. Magic was not given to us by God. Knowing lore is useful, sure, however as a christian, holding beliefs that are not supported by christianity can lead into dangerous practices so I tend to be very careful.
@@Valor1610 Kabbalah is not magic. It is a Jewish mysticism and a lot of its elements are in the bible. It is more that Jews have a lot more sources what are basically unknown to most Christians like Talmud.
Tak a note that Christianity also do not support Rapture, War in Heaven or the Devil. Like, Lucifer is straight from pop-novel. And classification from this video is also from occult.
Cherubim also have 4 faces. You forgot about that!
So they are like co workers. Got it.
The description he gave, the "cute chubby angels" are actually called _putto_ (pl. putti). They frequently get _mislabeled_ as cherub/cherubim.
*Actual* descriptions of cherubim mark them as four-legged beasts (similar to a Sphinx or Griffon), with backwards-facing wings. And their four heads "having a face of a man, lion, ox, and eagle".
@@omargoodman2999 It should be noted that some sources describe them as separate beings with those kind of heads or features. So it is kind of a debate here. I think it should be noted that they are parallel to Chinese Four Symbols:
A serpent (Leviathan/Qinglong), a lion (Bael?/Baihu), a giant bird (Ziz/Zhuque) and a bull.. though older sources actually mention armored fish, so turtle? (Behemot/Genbu). What is even funnier they are lead by Golden Quilin (Lamb?) and Christian God also sit on emerald throne (in China Jade Emperor). Coincidence?
Video idea: every medieval rank
lowkey would wanna see that
@@godofspeling same
Agreed
ngl fire idea
would watch that
Us: "So you're NOT Cherubs??" 😮
Putto: "No."
Us: "Those artists have some explaining to do ..." 😒
Putto: "I'm going to leave now."
4:40 the minions
I have been travelling around heavens and hells these days by jumping videos to videos
The Hebrew for Thrones is Ophanim (oh-fah-neem).
a lot of people like to say “orphanim”
This whole thing is overall really bad adaptation of Jewish hierarchy.
aren't there like 7 holy virtues who are archangels though or something I'm sorry
Virtues are literally the circles of heaven. They are represented by seven Archangels and Seraphims (not the same being). So: Humility, Kindness, Temperance, Chastity, Patience, Charity and Diligence. With exception of the Trinity (who are the same being), who represent Sacrum, Wisdom and Creation. Quite interestingly Primal Sins are the exact opposite of virtues, so: Pride, Envy, Gluttony, Lust, Wrath, Greed, Sloth and Ignorance (those are aspects of Creation).
*screams geometrically*
*screams in spititual*
0:00 bro callmearj made seraphim a form in UltraVegito manga series Goku, gogeta, UltraVegito and yamoshi have this form and even the grand priest.
As a Budhism who’s watchin this Christian angel vid, im getting stupid
With your grammar, I'm the one who is getting dumber.
@@The_Lois maybe both us
@@10HourBurstJoe I ges
as a hindu watching this, i second
wow, this is very interesting! keep up the good work 😉
some channel named About Anything has a video that seems to copy your
countryball styled art in the Every Sea Predator Video
John Cena of angels😂
WHERE THE F#*& IS GABRIEL FROM THE HITGAME ULTRAKILL?!!
i immediately thought of le sserafim😭
Please repent in this video you mocked God a few times
Good... You read the bibble
bibble?
How bibbly.
@@jkhsdffbvjkhwebfbcoijwbe Double dribble of the bibble.
@@jkhsdffbvjkhwebfbcoijwbe bibble.
Bibble🗣🔥
Doesn't the Bible say we wrestle against principalities 😅
Heaven is exeption i guess
Not the heavenly ones.
Fallen angels, demons basically
gabriel in real life vs gabriel ultrakill be like: 11:21
Hazbin hotel season 2 research 💀
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ULTRAKILL REFERENCE!1
Oh gee
Gabriel has been outclassed by a flying glass ball.
The is reinstated my Christian faith
ok🤔
Christian faiths confirm my atheism.
@@ANDROLOMA good..for you?
@@SKtheGREAT Best to conduct life without Christian faiths and their invisible gods getting mad at me because I don't believe in them.
@@ANDROLOMA Yeah sure bro, did your parents abandon you? I mean you literally tried accumulating attention in a Bible-related video about you being an "atheist". Like okay bro, nobody cares. 😭
can you explain all the emojis ?
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This video is completely wrong 80% of this is BS 💩. Hes literally making 💩 up
Confusingly, Archangels don't just refer to the second lowest tier of angels, they also refer to the (two, three, four, or seven) most important angels, and most of those were also low-ranked angels before the war in heaven.
So basically Michael was like a tier 2 angel, archangel, aboslutely low tier, and then when the most powerful and knowledgable angel God ever made: Lucifer, tried to get all the angels to worship him and rebel against God and Michael was the first guy to speak up and say something along the lines of "this is dumb, who is like unto God?" And then he charged Lucifer and knocked him out of heaven and then God made Michael the highest ranking angel.
That's how you know it's all made up. Theres a CLASS SYSTEM and a DICTATORSHIP 😂
No cap I saw Seraphim when breaking through on DMT
It reminds me a little of the anatomy
If i had a guardian angel he/she would be cracked cuz i almost died 30+ times
If i had a guardian angel he/she would be cracked cuz i almost died 30+ times
There should be a video on this Channel" talking or explaining, about the 7 levels of Heaven.
Every craftwars game with holy and unholy tier stuff taking notes
so while they have a variety of role they can't be defined in term o power, the hierarchy doesn't really effect what they can do? like i mean an archangel so low in the rank has slain satan supposedly a cherub? right?
"Angels appear fearsome to ward off evil, devils present themselves as appealing to temp humans."
I dont know why I needed this information but I wanted it... I'm not even christian...
"top five family Guy moments" ahh narrator 😭🙏🏻
So you are talking about god yet showing christ 🤔
it makes sense now. the reason why everytime an angel appeared they will always say "fear not". if I saw them for sure Ill be stunned and terrified.
You forgot human at the very bottom. Entry level. On probation.
Great video 👍
Where do you guys get this information? This isn't mentioned in the torah or bible or even the lost books 🤔
12:50 No way, a message from Outer Heaven, from the god who made the world!
Persona and SMT taught me about these dudes
What if angels are highly intelligent and advance drones
I feel divine after watching this video :D
_ 1 IN 250,000,000
ARCHANGEL
There is a unholy/demonic rank?
if you count the watchers, maybe? fallen angels who went against god's will or something. i usually lump that kind of divine being in there.
kinda similar but I they will be missing Seraphim(unless Lucifer is) and Ophanim. Cherubim is more vulnerable due to being 'laymen' and attuned to knowledge and power so they can be convinced into rebelling. Middle choir? Virtues(the weather) and Powers while unlikely can be part of it but imho I don't think there is a lot of them fallen. Lowest choir is most vulnerable due to proximity to humans, the 'prince of Persia' verse that a fallen one trying to block Gabriel from sending a message to the prophet Daniel made it obvious that there are fallen principalities... and considering how the world's nations have been acting, there is a lot of fallen principalities. Fallen lowest rank angels are definitely the majority of the unholy ones due to how far they are in proximity to God and are almost similar to humans in terms of 'free will' and vulnerability to temptation. It doesn't help that Satan formerly came from the highest choir and might be a cherub(attuned to wisdom and knowledge) thus crafty in arguing about their supposed legitimacy to usurp the 'stars of God'.
Yes. The main issue is that demons don't actually exist in Christianity.
@@jayzenstyle Seraphim, Ophanim and Thrones are literally the same.
People seams to not understand implications of Lucifer being one of them.
Though Bible actually call Christ a Morning Star, so maybe it is? Anyway, Michael replaced Satanael as Archangel of Justice, when it become angel of Death.
No no no no no no no no
Why do i smell the sent of the church.......
What I don't get is why God needs all these angels if he's omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient.
God doesn’t “need” them per say he chooses to have them. Along with man . The same way humans may choose to have children or pets.
Seraphim from one peice ⭕⭕⭕⭕⭕➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️
Thanks for the vid you the best
This is not skibidi taxed sigma toilet
‘ let me tell you ‘bout le sserafim ’
I thought Lucifer was a Seraphim.
No.
The Cherubim with many eyes The cherubim with many eyes and winged Seraphim who veil their faces as they shout exultingly the hymn Alleluia Alleluia Alleluia
Bairstow Let all mortal flesh keep silent
as a czech, shout out for using czech country when speaking about principalities 🗿
Dominions?
IS THAT THE ROBLOX DVN REFERENCE???
Ah yeah don't worry god just send ya scariest thing ever to carry messages to earth thanks mate 😂
any manga or anime about these? black clover has kaballah in it
This "Hierarchy" is actually how close are you to God. Yeah Seraphims are literally next to him 24/7 so that would mean they are in the top rank.
Clarification. They are him. Trinity is a Seraphim.
ultrakill 2
“More like they are radiating with gods pure love and holiness…” Have you ever read the Old Testament? Like seriously?
Humans blame God for own sins even today:
God: So we need solve problem of that another tribe. I help you in dealing with them.
Patriarch: Done. Here is the bag of they junks.
God: Well... so I do not need those diplomatic notes then... maybe I move to Rome?
Patriarch: I already start war with them. With your help, we would be victorious!
God: ...sure. In a sense at least.
Rebillion
Where do angels came from?
When he said arch angels I thought of sols rng
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Bro cooked you’re
Hilarious comparation 😊
I think u forgot 2 that on top but I don't know if they count in Christianity
which? and for which religion. i am asking because this interests me a lot.
@faithstea there is the Sacred animals and the ophanim it's from the Judaism
@vafel1888 I mean this video was really centered around ✝️ and not much on ✡️.
@Lois-333 oh I thought it was from the most known angelic sorce
@@vafel1888 Christian clarification is basically poor adaptation from Judaism.
Christian Seraphim, Ophanim and Thrones are literally the same.
It is like asking if it is Potato or (the other) Potato?
10:31 oh shit that’s me
Thank you po😇
Cool informations
minute ago
No veiws is crazy
Your going to be called bot or begger or some term if you keep commenting that comment so deleat your comment
I wonder how people came up with these ranks and early bibilical stories in the ancient days.
Moldy rye bread containing LSD AKA ergot poisoning
Weed
Psychedelics would make more sense @@antispoiler1
my best ideas come from dreams@@antispoiler1
@antispoiler1 "Noooooo!!!!!!!!! It's burning bush!!!!!!"
Yeah, it's definitely weed
hazbin hotel/helluva boss vibe
Brr skibidi dom dom dom yes yes
cringe!😊
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Never type again
I wish I was Jared, 19
@@MrBigShot264 im about to bust
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@@ILikeVirtification Bold of you to assume I don’t shower multiple times a day.
@xenos_xd walked my dog today so
no its all a tboi reference
One day out of curiosity I decided to read Revelations from start to finish.
There is a reason that this book is so notorious as it was quite obviously written by a monk on magic mushrooms or who at the very least had a serious mental disorder. Nothing makes any sense and the whole tone of dread, awe and terror is so out of step with the rest of the New Testament that it is quite obviously a late addition purely for the twin purposes of filling it out and not incidentally to keep people in terror of "going over to the dark side".
An unadulterated pile of steaming BS.
Alot of the reason why Revelations is confusing is because the early church removed the Book of Enoch which goes more in depth furthermore no body asked you to comment such a vile thing you may not believe in God but he believes in you
Also to collapse your point the Books of Enoch are in the Ethiopian Bible which is the oldest and most comprehensive Bible with multiples extra books. Being that Ethiopia has the oldest Christian community I'd say your unfounded allegations are clearly false
@@JaydenTrudzik I'll pray for you, it sounds like you need it.
@@rags417Pray for yourself.
@@JaydenTrudzik Yeah I don't like it when churches remove some books that I'm really interested in.