Hello. Thanks for the demo. I consider buying a small ultrasonic (probably 3L or 6L) to clean valves and slides without chem clean... But I cannot find any info about the liquid to put inside the ultrasonic cleaner... Which are you using ?
hello mr lee i recently chem cleaned my horn my self after pulling out my horn from the lime and acale remover i notice redish tarnish on the horn laquer and inside the slides how do you remove the red and prevent it thanx in advance!
If the lacquer has red or pink spots on it after dipping it into lime and scale remover, it means you left it in for too long. In order to avoid this, you can periodically take out the horn, rinse it off with somewhat cold water (it doesn't need to be freezing cold, but definitely shouldn't be hot, or it'll make the lacquer look foggy) and dip it again in the scale remover if necessary. Unfortunately, only relaquering can fix that. As for the slides, you can't really prevent it (only with plating, but that'll just flake off eventually). You can buff it off, but that's just unnecessary. Just brush it with dish soap and water until the brush comes out with a white foam. It won't remove the red coloration, only the lunch you blew into it, but it'll make your instrument last longer.
Hello @@wesleemusicrepair9820 , I've got a couple of questions and a request! is it safe to use general anti-limescale spray to remove limescale build ups at home, especially from trumpet leadpipe and main slide? besides devolving the build ups, does it corrode the brass as well, or can we even let it sit a while before brushing it off? It would be of great help if you could give us some professional advice on this matter: from my experience both in the amateur and professional field (at least in Europe), there is a lot of fear of damaging the instrument, therefore teachers and colleagues usually recommend to be careful, using soap only to clean the instrument. But then this allows limescale to build up, and I feel it really changes how the instrument performs. It would actually be amazing if you could do a video (or link me to one if you already did) where you show how to effectively clean the brass instrument at home, explaining how dirt, oxidation, limescale, brass and silver/gold-plate or lacquering interact (or not) to all the different chemicals we can use. Also explaining the benefits of having the instrument cleaned form a professional like yourself from time to time! I feel you could help overcome many many people (amateurs and professionals) this fear of damaging the instrument which actually prevents them from taking care of their brass instrument for it to last as long as possible. Thanks for all the great content you've been posting so far and all the divulgative work you do! Cheers, Emilio
@@emiliobotto5818 A spray won't get into everywhere, so it'll not be effective. Dipping it fully in the chemical can do the job, but be careful, because not all limescale removing chemicals are suitable for the job. Some can corrode the metal. Use a chemical that can't damage the instrument or the plating if it has. Also make sure you don't leave the instrument in the chemicals for too long if it's lacquered, because it can damage the lacquer. Periodically rinse it off with somewhat cold water and dip in again if there's still lime in there. Degreasing before the chem clean can also help. Make sure that no air bubbles are present, when you put the instrument in, the bell and the slide tubes of the slides should be facing up. After that, use dish soap, water and a snake brush to remove the spit and lunch and everything inside the instrument. If the brush comes out with a white foam from every tube of the trumpet, it means the instrument is clean. You can also use the rougher side of a sponge (and dish soap of course) for cleaning the inner slide tubes. You can also use that for the spindles of the rotor (only that, not the whole valve), both sides of the rotor plate and inner side of the valve cap if it's a rotory valved trumpet. If it's a piston valved instrument, then dip the bottom valve caps and the disassembled valves in the chemicals, and then clean the inside of the valve caps with the sponge. As for the mouthpiece, you can use a mouthpiece brush and dish soap after the chem clean. After rinsing everything with water, you can use a cloth to dry them. Just make sure to use something that doesn't leave scratches. If you have a compressor you can use it to get most of the water out of the instrument. If you don't, just blow hard in the whole at the bottom of the piston, because there will be quite a lot of water there. Just rinse it thoroughly before that if you don't intend to swallow soap. There are some other minor details that I left out, because it'd be risky to try for yourself, but mostly that's how it's done. But I'd also mention, that if you have a rotary valved trumpet, then I wouldn't recommend taking it apart, cleaning and assembling yourself if you haven't done that before, because a lot can go wrong if you don't know what you're doing. Also, having it cleaned by a professional annually also has the benefit of having it repaired, not just cleaned. And they also have more experience with the chemicals and stuff so less chance of damaging the lacquer or anything else. Just find a good tech, because unfortunately there are some individuals who do more harm than good.
just don't chuck your valve pistons into a bin of other parts like shown in this video at 1:32. That's a good way to damage the valve action by scratching a piston / rotor.
Hello. Thanks for the demo. I consider buying a small ultrasonic (probably 3L or 6L) to clean valves and slides without chem clean... But I cannot find any info about the liquid to put inside the ultrasonic cleaner... Which are you using ?
Hey Wes, what do you use after the ultrasonic cleaner to get the valves shiny?
hello mr lee i recently chem cleaned my horn my self after pulling out my horn from the lime and acale remover i notice redish tarnish on the horn laquer and inside the slides how do you remove the red and prevent it thanx in advance!
If the lacquer has red or pink spots on it after dipping it into lime and scale remover, it means you left it in for too long. In order to avoid this, you can periodically take out the horn, rinse it off with somewhat cold water (it doesn't need to be freezing cold, but definitely shouldn't be hot, or it'll make the lacquer look foggy) and dip it again in the scale remover if necessary. Unfortunately, only relaquering can fix that. As for the slides, you can't really prevent it (only with plating, but that'll just flake off eventually). You can buff it off, but that's just unnecessary. Just brush it with dish soap and water until the brush comes out with a white foam. It won't remove the red coloration, only the lunch you blew into it, but it'll make your instrument last longer.
@@tamasfoldesi5987 thank you i will give that a try!
Is there an “recipe” for the lime scale solution?
Nice,Wonderful work.
How to avoid thd green lime?
What do you use for soap bath, and what for chemflush bath?
I use degreaser, then ultrasonic cleaner for lime/scale removal, then soap and water to kill bacteria
Hello @@wesleemusicrepair9820 , I've got a couple of questions and a request!
is it safe to use general anti-limescale spray to remove limescale build ups at home, especially from trumpet leadpipe and main slide? besides devolving the build ups, does it corrode the brass as well, or can we even let it sit a while before brushing it off?
It would be of great help if you could give us some professional advice on this matter: from my experience both in the amateur and professional field (at least in Europe), there is a lot of fear of damaging the instrument, therefore teachers and colleagues usually recommend to be careful, using soap only to clean the instrument. But then this allows limescale to build up, and I feel it really changes how the instrument performs. It would actually be amazing if you could do a video (or link me to one if you already did) where you show how to effectively clean the brass instrument at home, explaining how dirt, oxidation, limescale, brass and silver/gold-plate or lacquering interact (or not) to all the different chemicals we can use. Also explaining the benefits of having the instrument cleaned form a professional like yourself from time to time!
I feel you could help overcome many many people (amateurs and professionals) this fear of damaging the instrument which actually prevents them from taking care of their brass instrument for it to last as long as possible.
Thanks for all the great content you've been posting so far and all the divulgative work you do!
Cheers, Emilio
@@emiliobotto5818 A spray won't get into everywhere, so it'll not be effective. Dipping it fully in the chemical can do the job, but be careful, because not all limescale removing chemicals are suitable for the job. Some can corrode the metal. Use a chemical that can't damage the instrument or the plating if it has. Also make sure you don't leave the instrument in the chemicals for too long if it's lacquered, because it can damage the lacquer. Periodically rinse it off with somewhat cold water and dip in again if there's still lime in there. Degreasing before the chem clean can also help. Make sure that no air bubbles are present, when you put the instrument in, the bell and the slide tubes of the slides should be facing up.
After that, use dish soap, water and a snake brush to remove the spit and lunch and everything inside the instrument. If the brush comes out with a white foam from every tube of the trumpet, it means the instrument is clean. You can also use the rougher side of a sponge (and dish soap of course) for cleaning the inner slide tubes. You can also use that for the spindles of the rotor (only that, not the whole valve), both sides of the rotor plate and inner side of the valve cap if it's a rotory valved trumpet. If it's a piston valved instrument, then dip the bottom valve caps and the disassembled valves in the chemicals, and then clean the inside of the valve caps with the sponge. As for the mouthpiece, you can use a mouthpiece brush and dish soap after the chem clean.
After rinsing everything with water, you can use a cloth to dry them. Just make sure to use something that doesn't leave scratches. If you have a compressor you can use it to get most of the water out of the instrument. If you don't, just blow hard in the whole at the bottom of the piston, because there will be quite a lot of water there. Just rinse it thoroughly before that if you don't intend to swallow soap.
There are some other minor details that I left out, because it'd be risky to try for yourself, but mostly that's how it's done.
But I'd also mention, that if you have a rotary valved trumpet, then I wouldn't recommend taking it apart, cleaning and assembling yourself if you haven't done that before, because a lot can go wrong if you don't know what you're doing.
Also, having it cleaned by a professional annually also has the benefit of having it repaired, not just cleaned. And they also have more experience with the chemicals and stuff so less chance of damaging the lacquer or anything else. Just find a good tech, because unfortunately there are some individuals who do more harm than good.
Thats special 😊
Dam, there sure is a lot of slides on those horns...
what is the name of the green product?
which acid?
After watching this I have a sudden urge to clean my euphonium.
just don't chuck your valve pistons into a bin of other parts like shown in this video at 1:32. That's a good way to damage the valve action by scratching a piston / rotor.
I want to clean out my ears! Never gave a thought to the insides of these instruments. I think a good soaking should be like an oil change in the car.
Tu bouges , tu en prends plein la gueule !
You all are rough as shit with these instruments. You wouldn’t touch my shit!
What do you mean?