For anyone interested, Jack did an analysis on his own channel deciding between the updated Spectral and the older Strive, really quite interesting to hear his insights and understand why exactly he went to the Strive again… he mentions if he was on home trails that he knew, the Spectral would be the faster bike he reckons.
Great point! Worth noting to mention that he said this due to the spectral being more progressive and less forgiving in trails where you're riding them for the first or second time, and the strive's extra travel and shorter wheelbase lets him maneuver around unexpected obstacles easier.
What a champion, well done! You know how this business works, bringing people into your racing world! Love your videos, great racer and great person! I really like your thought processing and prep for bikes and racing.
May jacks mechanic tell us his trickys for making the perfect bleed of the sram codes to get that nice short lever stroke and that touchy feeling? Would appreciate it mate :D
@@ark8tct if you did listen you know why it is, he even said he choose the smaller one because it is shorter. Still look at the mods, fork spacers between the frame and the saddle pos. The strive is outdated ...
@@Vanadium if you watch the vids on Jack Moir's channel he goes into why he chose the strive, the bikes he's riding now over another bike canyon makes, the spectral. The spectral by all modern standards is supposed to be amazing, its a 29er, looong wheel base and slack head angle. Guess what ol jacky boy said??? He said the long and slacker geo actually made the bike preform worse because it was so much slower when I came to taking quick turns etc. which is why he went with the strive. I think people just need to understand that all these technicalities make near to no difference in your riding. For these PROS, maybe, but if you ride for fun then who cares if a bike is "outdated".
@@meesterbingbong5641 you are repeating me here, eh? It's funny that most here only can think of wb/reach and HT. It's more, look at the Slash. They didn't get it. You know what's fun , to make more descent's and pedal further or higher. If you can do that because the new stuff made it possible it is better.
Jack actually sets his bike for racing EWS! Riding almost blind with just a practice run. Most people set the bikes by doing back to back runs like its a WC DH. Not working as well for those guys
It's really nice to see what they run especially when you have the same bike. Would've just liked to know what is the difference between dhf and assegai tires.
This shows, that you don't need the newest and freshest tech to define its advantages. If the bike is dialed to you, you could outclass a newer bike. It's all about the rider
Strive is in many respects as modern as it gets. Doesn't really make sense to talk of old tech. The shapeshifter system is as good as those systems currently are. It's not the slackest but it's definitely modern geo.
effetto mariposa makes one called tappabuco. i modified some stans refills with different plug tools to fit on the steerer tube from bottom and a case with 2.5mm hex allen freebies and a little sanding and duct taped a stopping point for insertion depth
that was for the spectral - he was running 170 when the bike comes with 160. this strive comes stock with 170 - or did, I believe the bike has been completely replace in canyon's lineup
The guy wins the EWS on a 150mm rear travel bike and there are still some saying that 160mm is too little for the "rough and gnarly stuff they ride" 😒 Nice to see him crushing these hypocrites!
The Strive had 150mm rear travel with a rear shock with 60mm stroke - Jack´s Strive and all Strives from 2021 has a rear shock with 65mm stroke, meaning 8.3% more. Yes the relation to travel might not be proportional, but in reality the rear travel is closer to 160mm then 150mm. Why Canyon do not advertise this might have something to do with the release of the new Spectral... :P Not that this takes anything away from Jack´s awesome performance!
@@petnym Canyon probalby cant guarantee that the 65mm stroke will work on every single strive due to manufacturing tolerance, different frame sizes ect. therefore they cant recommend it. Is something similar working on the spectral? I wonder if Dimitri Tordo is running his Spectral on more travel.
All they really need to do is just slacken the head like 2 degrees and opposite for seat tube angle. And 29er but I don't know if strive already has that.
Check out Jack's own channel, compared his Strive to his Spectral. The Spectral has 'modern geometry' but he decided to run this bike for reasons he explains in his video.
@@alicangul2603 I guess you two never had ridden diffrent bikes on the same day or week on the same track? Like the other dude said he had a longer fork and spacers for make it more slack, still ignoring also the fact he slammed that seat? Make that seat tube not slack to get a better pedal pos for uphill. You will have your facts when you feel how much more power you waisted just to get to the top.
@@ark8tct so do you have experience in getting up the hill and down with different bikes on same track within a day or week? The frame Geo is mostly the same from 2015. I have ridden the Strive back then. Was descent with the other German Enduros who had mostly the same Geo. Would work today but works bette if it is right from the start. I don't want a bike who pedals shit uphill, the strive isn't good compared to other stuff at that. Even the new trek is bad and the new trek also have almost the same Geo as the strive and I don't know how people can forget that. The Slash is the worst in my opinion..
I have a Strive, and folk need to shut up about it's "outdated geometry". Who gives a toss. It's rides amazing, and most of us don't need an enduro bike with dh geometry
Bike is in DH mode. It will be steeper in XC. Also, Jack is on a small frame for he's size, so the seat is very high up, which also moves it further back.
For anyone interested, Jack did an analysis on his own channel deciding between the updated Spectral and the older Strive, really quite interesting to hear his insights and understand why exactly he went to the Strive again… he mentions if he was on home trails that he knew, the Spectral would be the faster bike he reckons.
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Great point! Worth noting to mention that he said this due to the spectral being more progressive and less forgiving in trails where you're riding them for the first or second time, and the strive's extra travel and shorter wheelbase lets him maneuver around unexpected obstacles easier.
@@mathias3068 The strive and the spectral have the same amount of travel
@@palmerino7132 my spectral has 160 and my strive has 170...
that video was a big influence on me going for the 160 travel spectral - excellent analysis and testing of the two bikes. appreciate the man's work.
What a nice bike!
@@ark8tct yep, I fully agree with you on this.
Gentle giant with a sweet bike! Congrats Jack!
Well done mate, smoked them by 14 seconds! You dont get those green grade trails at fw 😄
A Canyon also got first in the uci.
Shout-out for the Steevo superfans
So happy for Jack that he's crushing it in EWS! Cheers mate!
The local fella! So excited for what's to come in your career mate 🔥
Jack knows his stuff! Bloody awesome work mate!
Stevo bike check next!
Outstanding bike for the MadDog !
What a champion, well done! You know how this business works, bringing people into your racing world! Love your videos, great racer and great person!
I really like your thought processing and prep for bikes and racing.
That shapeshifter looks pretty cool. Wish I had that on my norco range
Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi, fantastic start to the season mate , STRENGTH 🤘.
Amazing mate
That tire plug on the BB is awesome, will get some of them
Great vid, that bike is sweet
May jacks mechanic tell us his trickys for making the perfect bleed of the sram codes to get that nice short lever stroke and that touchy feeling? Would appreciate it mate :D
I’m guessing he just twists that contacts adjustment as far in as possible
@@baileydillon7809 That would the obvious thing to do. But probably he got some other tricks up his sleeve.
ruclips.net/video/RG4H1Ajcqao/видео.html
mabey this gonna help you. I ididn't have a try yet. But I want to in a few days.
Thats my Bike...just changing to 36 Chainring, 50mm stem and 800mm 20mm Bars...and Finally Shimano Saint 4 piston Brakes
Pure talent with outdated bike geo ...what a Beast 🔥
Why outdated?
All the Aussies are showing the world whats up in the mtb scene...first Crankworx Downhill with Troy and now Maddog Jack...proud Aussie here
Have you seen their local track Awaba??? Then you know why 🤣🤣🤣
He cames from nowhere this year, never performed in IWS, now 2 podiums !
Nice one jack 👍
Keep shredding dude 🤘
"I'm new to enduro" ....wins ews
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@@ark8tct but you must go longer and slacker :)
@@ark8tct if you did listen you know why it is, he even said he choose the smaller one because it is shorter. Still look at the mods, fork spacers between the frame and the saddle pos. The strive is outdated ...
@@Vanadium if you watch the vids on Jack Moir's channel he goes into why he chose the strive, the bikes he's riding now over another bike canyon makes, the spectral. The spectral by all modern standards is supposed to be amazing, its a 29er, looong wheel base and slack head angle. Guess what ol jacky boy said??? He said the long and slacker geo actually made the bike preform worse because it was so much slower when I came to taking quick turns etc. which is why he went with the strive. I think people just need to understand that all these technicalities make near to no difference in your riding. For these PROS, maybe, but if you ride for fun then who cares if a bike is "outdated".
@@meesterbingbong5641 you are repeating me here, eh?
It's funny that most here only can think of wb/reach and HT. It's more, look at the Slash. They didn't get it.
You know what's fun , to make more descent's and pedal further or higher. If you can do that because the new stuff made it possible it is better.
Jack actually sets his bike for racing EWS! Riding almost blind with just a practice run. Most people set the bikes by doing back to back runs like its a WC DH. Not working as well for those guys
Go the Aussie! You little ripper 👍
All this talk of long low slack and high pivots being best for enduro and Jack smokes them on a bike that’s too small for him with no high pivot 🤷♂️
Let's do his surfboards check next.
I'll watch!
Killer run mate 10/10😜🤘🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Yeah
Why haven’t you done a field test on the strive
Changed geometry with a remote
Me: 😲
Thought for sure I would see RR’s Yeti SB150 on here…
I'd really like my saint levers to feel like that.
It’s a great video
It's really nice to see what they run especially when you have the same bike. Would've just liked to know what is the difference between dhf and assegai tires.
Assegais are generally favored nowadays for their improved grip and cornering over the DHF I believe
@@adambicak6637 Ok thank you. My DHF is starting to get worn will be definitely getting the assegai next.
Is the seat tube slacker than the head tube 😄 ?
An interesting build and definitaly not the stock bike. there a way to get the shock riser ?
What wheel lacing pattern is he running? It looks a bit weird to me.
What is the travel of the fork? 180mm or 170mm 🤔
Beautiful bike , just created my channel and uploading some of my progress too.
Джек молодец! Продолжай в том же духе!
Was this video Stevo approved??
where can i buy the red dt swiss wheel?
This shows, that you don't need the newest and freshest tech to define its advantages. If the bike is dialed to you, you could outclass a newer bike. It's all about the rider
It also has a big spacer under the head tube and is over forked, so not exactly off the shelf.
Strive is in many respects as modern as it gets. Doesn't really make sense to talk of old tech. The shapeshifter system is as good as those systems currently are. It's not the slackest but it's definitely modern geo.
can you find out how his mechanic gets his brakes to have that little of throw?
Code RSC brakes have adjustable bite point
Anyone know what brand that plug tool for the cranks is?
effetto mariposa makes one called tappabuco. i modified some stans refills with different plug tools to fit on the steerer tube from bottom and a case with 2.5mm hex allen freebies and a little sanding and duct taped a stopping point for insertion depth
i read that he was running a longer stroke shock than on the stock bike, is this true?
that was for the spectral - he was running 170 when the bike comes with 160. this strive comes stock with 170 - or did, I believe the bike has been completely replace in canyon's lineup
Anyone know the brand of the crank mounted bacon plug at 6:04?
What I got out of this is there is pedal kick-back issues and a head angle that is too steep for rowdy riding.
"Pretty hard coming from Oslo". What?
The guy wins the EWS on a 150mm rear travel bike and there are still some saying that 160mm is too little for the "rough and gnarly stuff they ride" 😒 Nice to see him crushing these hypocrites!
The Strive had 150mm rear travel with a rear shock with 60mm stroke - Jack´s Strive and all Strives from 2021 has a rear shock with 65mm stroke, meaning 8.3% more. Yes the relation to travel might not be proportional, but in reality the rear travel is closer to 160mm then 150mm. Why Canyon do not advertise this might have something to do with the release of the new Spectral... :P Not that this takes anything away from Jack´s awesome performance!
@@petnym Canyon probalby cant guarantee that the 65mm stroke will work on every single strive due to manufacturing tolerance, different frame sizes ect. therefore they cant recommend it.
Is something similar working on the spectral? I wonder if Dimitri Tordo is running his Spectral on more travel.
But he’s Jack f’ing Moir. He’d be fast on a Walmart bike.
The filming and color grading do not make the video fun to watch...
He is wayyyy more knowledgeable than Ed Masters was about his bike setup
so if you wanna do what pros do you run dowhill tires all time...so nobody in enduro run enduro tire...wowo//
I got same bike for 2020 and I’m wondering if is not better a dh bike for this trails
Plz do dh bike 🙏🙏😭😭😭 I beg you
Canyon needs to do a new version of the strive. This One have really old geometry for enduro.
All they really need to do is just slacken the head like 2 degrees and opposite for seat tube angle. And 29er but I don't know if strive already has that.
He won on this bike. I'd say the geometry is just right, no?
@@imryanthompson He's really good, but, with a more modern bike, he could win with better times.
Check out Jack's own channel, compared his Strive to his Spectral. The Spectral has 'modern geometry' but he decided to run this bike for reasons he explains in his video.
I wonder if he gets his bikes for free or at a much discounted price since he’s basically a walking/riding advertisement lol
Wow, how did he win with this dirt roadie bike? Look at its OUTDATED GEOMETRY! Not even a 60° head angle!
@@ark8tct Yep. Whenever the bike industry sells something that can only be quantified in terms of "feeling", we should be skeptical.
I mean, he does have a longer fork than standard and a spacer under the headtube that both slacken the headtube. But go off bro
@@alicangul2603 I guess you two never had ridden diffrent bikes on the same day or week on the same track?
Like the other dude said he had a longer fork and spacers for make it more slack, still ignoring also the fact he slammed that seat? Make that seat tube not slack to get a better pedal pos for uphill. You will have your facts when you feel how much more power you waisted just to get to the top.
@@ark8tct so do you have experience in getting up the hill and down with different bikes on same track within a day or week? The frame Geo is mostly the same from 2015. I have ridden the Strive back then. Was descent with the other German Enduros who had mostly the same Geo. Would work today but works bette if it is right from the start. I don't want a bike who pedals shit uphill, the strive isn't good compared to other stuff at that. Even the new trek is bad and the new trek also have almost the same Geo as the strive and I don't know how people can forget that. The Slash is the worst in my opinion..
I have a Strive, and folk need to shut up about it's "outdated geometry". Who gives a toss. It's rides amazing, and most of us don't need an enduro bike with dh geometry
That seat tube angle is a joke. The seat is practically over the rear tire
Bike is in DH mode. It will be steeper in XC. Also, Jack is on a small frame for he's size, so the seat is very high up, which also moves it further back.
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Jack..... sam..... canyon is getting desperate for riders, no? Anyone? Thanks RUclips
Hello how are you
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Image is a bit dark.
Upload at 60 FPS PLS!
giving away the winner 👎
Terrible filming and editing, out of focus, overly dark
If you need the bike slacker, why dont you put a double crown on the bike?
You just don‘t, it’s enduro racing bro not dh. Nevertheless I don’t even know if double crown forks are allowed on the EWS
@@mneskl8061 I'm sure that would also add a lot of weight, and your head tube/frame needs to be able to take a double crown without snapping! ; )
Canyon, my least favorite bike around
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