Thank you Melinda. I recently started to purchase vinyl purely for nostalgic reasons. You made the most profound statement when you said "buy what you love." That's exactly what I've been doing.
What's wrong with that? It's true that Captain Beefheart may not be everyone's cup of tea, like Ms. Murphy said, but he's got MAJOR props from musicians from almost every genre you can think of. He worked closely with Frank Zappa a great number of times. A whole lot of people call "Trout Mask Replica" *pure genius*and while I'm certainly not always in the mood to listen to it, I would have to agree.
Captain Beefheart bores the hell out of me, and I don't blame you for not listening to any Sting albums --- but you dear are utterly charming. I'd listen to you reading a phone book. Thanks for this video, which contains a lot of lessons for vinyl buyers. I love your concise reviews of each album. Shame on that store for selling a warped record. The manager carefully inspects each record, so he had to know it was warped. Red vinyl is extremely nice! You are one of the most fun to watch video presenters I have ever seen! You are intoxicating in a classy way, lady. Keep up the great work Melinda!
Thank you so much for your very nice compliments. I really appreciate it. I went to the store that I bought the warped record from this past weekend and he saw the video and recognized the sticker and told me to bring it back. That store is great and they are very honest. They have a huge inventory and it is hard to just look at and see the warp. Again, thank you so much and have a great week!
Congrats on the VH! I also need this record to complete the VH collection. I picked this up and put it down four times over a two year period at my local record store (Forever Young Records). It was 39.99 new when it came out and I just didn’t want to spend the money! Finally one day I went back in early 2104 to buy it and it was gone and is now worth over 100 bucks! Live and learn!
Yep! My story too. I waited too long to buy my copy as well. I hope you find a great copy and don't have to spend the big bucks on it. Thank you and take care!
Theres no right or wrong in what your taste in music is. I will say sometimes albums will grow on you. I bought TMR in 1970 and couldnt get through side one. Years later( in the mid 80's) i listened again and loved it! In the 17 year interim i listened to Howlin Wolf, Sun Ra, Albert Ayler, John Coltrane, etc. A lot of CB's influences were unknown to me in 1970. It took some time to sink in.
This happened to me with Never Mind the Bullocks..., once you hone your ear to listen past the noise you hear the rough chord structure and musical sound. This never happened with TMR.
Hi Melinda, the biggest mistakes I have made in the past is buying albums on a “hunch” after only listening to one or songs, believing that it will be good.Thankfully I do more research these days… Cheers for your great channel
I understand that. I have bought records on the strength of one song in the past. I no longer do that. I have to like the majority of the record in order to buy it now. Thank you and take care.
Here's a tip for everybody that collects records. Know your record labels both first pressings and reissues before you start buying. I can't tell you how many times online or in stores that I've seen a seller trying to pass off a reissue as a first pressing while charging a premium price. They will state it's a first pressing when it's a late 70's or an 80's reissue instead. A lot of people don't know that and end up getting ripped off by paying more money for a less valuable record. Some will be sneaky and try to put a reissue in a first pressing jacket to fool the customer into paying more. There are a lot of crooks out there trying to rip people off since vinyl has made a big comeback. So, know what the labels and jackets look like before you make your purchases so you don't end up wasting your money.
Excellent! People don't talk too much about their mistakes. This was an eye opener. I sometimes don't take the time to check/scrutinise the records I'm buying. I will from now on. Thanks for posting!
I am an avid vinyl collector myself been collecting for nearly 40 years have well over 2000 albums, my big takeaway from this seems to be know what you are looking for know your record labels..PS. the Captain Beefheart is a good find the album is definitely not for the Casual listener but a true gem.
I'm sure with 40 years experience you have the knowledge to avoid all these mistakes. Hopefully, I will be where you are at some point. I have no regrets about buying Captain Beefheart. It has been very entertaining.
@@MelindaMurphy well thank you for the reply I know I've made all of these same mistakes myself pick up things I thought was an original release that ended up being a reissue or a bootleg, and like you with the Van Halen LP let things go that I said oh I'll pick it up later and then it ended up going out of print LOL no avoiding some of these mistakes.
Trout Mask is a great album. I had to listen to it several times and did a bunch of research about the album and how it came about and recorded. After learning the history and myths about the process, it became more and more amazing. Now one of my favorites and takes me away in moments. Cool vid.
I bought the "deluxe CD/DVD" version of "A Different Kind Of Truth". The DVD is them singing a few songs acoustic. I really liked it. DLR sounds pretty good on it too
Trout Mask Replica: absolute classic and NOT a waste of your $. (I have never seen it on vinyl.) I have it on CD for 30+ years. In long box too! Happy collecting!
@@MelindaMurphy For trout mask replica, you said it may not be your cup of tea. Then why not change the cup without change the tea? And try again? What I mean is that you can see that this album contains a lot of short pieces. How about try listening it as one whole piece? Vinyl record cannot do this but I know that some software can help delete the fade in to zero and chain each of the tracks in an album into one.
Hi. May I ask where you received the recommendation? I feel like I owe someone a thank you. 😊 I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and let me know. Thank you
Great video! I once bought the Beatles red album “The Beatles/1962-1966” but when I got home I realized the vinyl inside the album art was the blue album record. I called my local record store and I was able to schedule a trade for the blue album in their store that had the red album’s record inside :)
Hi Melinda, as it turns out, that counterfeit Bowie album is actually quite rare, and worth much more than you think! Also, if you can listen to Trout Mask Replica a few times, even though it's a challenge at first, I think that you will find that it becomes very interesting and so far ahead of it's time, that you may be pleasantly surprised by it.. It's a magical record, and really quite a brilliant piece of work. Please give it a close listen, I think you might be glad that you did! It's famous for a reason.. You found some great records without realizing it! Good job! Lary
Hi Melinda, I really enjoyed your video. In 40 years of record collecting, I've somehow managed to avoid Trout Mask Replica, and based on what I've read of others' impressions of that album, I think I will continue to steer clear of it. My only exposure to Captain Beefheart was Shiny Beast, which I didn't really enjoy and traded soon after I acquired it. Incidentally, I listen to a lot of transgressive / experimental / odd music, like Nurse with Wound for example, and I never feel bad about admitting that I don't enjoy something that is considered a staple in the genre. Feel free to like what you like, or not like it! Thank you for your opinion of the Cranberries album. I don't have any of their works on vinyl, but have been thinking about springing for some of the reissues. I met Dolores O'Riordan when they were in the U.S. promoting their first album and they were incredible in concert. You did a great job of reviewing the Van Halen album. Have you ever heard David Lee Roth's Eat Em' and Smile? That's such a great record and I don't hear it mentioned very much.
I have and love Eat em and Smile. That is DLR's best album. Cool story about meeting Dolores. A huge fan would love this Cranberries album. I was expecting all the original songs and music and that was why I was disappointed. People say that Trout Mask Replica has to be listened to a dozen times before one can appreciate it. Why should we have to work that hard to like an album? Lol. Great hearing from you and have a great week!
I make it a rule to open new vinyl at the store (after purchase) to check for defects such as factory scratches, and if they have a turntable on sight to check for warps. If I find an issue I can immediately show the store and get a refund or swap for a good copy. Saves me a lot of time.
Hi Melinda My local store has a record dewarp machine. I dropped off a record. They bake it slow for like two hours and then it cools slow and most of the warp is gone. It works on up and down warps but not warps that distort the roundness of the disc. It's worth asking your local indie stores if they have one, so you can fix your Atom Heart Mother record.
Our local record store was going to fix it for me however, the record store that I bought it from saw the video and told me I could trade it in. Both record stores were very nice about it.
Great and informative video. Biggest vinyl mistakes I've made were overpaying for some used records. But a big mistake that didn't cost too much was not taking the vinyl out and checking it when buying a copy of Ratt's Invasion Of Your Privacy. Oddly, it had a Ratt album in it. But it was Out Of The Cellar. Eventually got another copy of Invasion Of Your Privacy with the correct album inside. But now I've got to find the right cover for Out Of The Cellar.
As you have seen, I did that one too with The Doors album. Lol. At least that isn't an expensive one to get. I hope you find the right cover for a wonderful price soon.
I dont understand why you are buying records of Music you don't like.. Not my cup of tea.. In the 80's as a teenager I bought the albums of the artist I liked.. Not to collect them but to listen to them..
As an 18 nearly 19 year old I second that, I buy only what I like and if it's cheap what I might like and therefore take the plunge on something random. No point buying what you know you won't like and is just a waste of money/space (if multiple) for you. But I get people can be influenced or think they like something, but don't etc
How to fix a warped record. Stick record in cover between two large ceramic tiles. Add weight (10 - 15 lbs.) on top. Let sit in the sun on a hot day for 4-5 hours. Again, must be a hot sunny day. The latest Dylan album came to me with a crazy warp. A friend suggested this and it worked for me.
Trout Mask Replica is an album that I know I will slowly work my way towards but I am surely not rushing it. I can see the appeal musically but you have to really get in the right mindset for it (and I dont mean with any sort of substance!). In terms of buying mistakes, theres been a few bootlegs where the quality wasn't up to snuff. I aim to not regret most of my purchases but there have been cases where some purchases were impulse buys and time would pass before it dropped to an astounding price that was lower than what I purchased the record for (example: Monkees Live 67 that I purchased $20 for, went down to $12 a week later!)
I bought Trout Mask Replica in hopes of liking it. I'm not sure I am there yet but it is still cool to have in the collection and the price I paid was way below it's value. I have impulse buys that I probably shouldn't have bought as well. Lol.
Some very good advice for collectors and a bit of catharsis for you! On the Van Halen issue, there could have been any number of reasons why they didn't return to the studio, so please don't berate yourself for that. My biggest mistakes have involved trusting sellers - always on Discogs - against my better judgement. Ultimately I stopped using it. Now I'm going to get another coffee and watch "Vinyl Collecting Isn't As Fun As It Used To Be!" :-)
I have had a Discogs disappointment as well. I am always nervous when buying from someone on Discogs and avoid it as much as possible. I had to pay up for the Van Halen album but I have no regrets with that purchase now. Thank you and take care.
I was in a Barnes & Noble store in Delaware yesterday. The WHO " WHO'S NEXT".... $24.99...I bought the remastered expanded CD edition of WHO'S NEXT years ago, for $20.00! So glad I retired from vinyl , 30 years ago!
Hi Melinda ! I get so happy when other collectors completes their collection of favourite bands or find a special record grail. In this case , you did both in one. I am truly happy for you. Congratulations ! I can totally relate to it myself. Billy Idol’s Cyberpunk and the reissue of Pink Floyd’s Pulse were two of my biggest grails that si have bought the last 18 months. Take care now and have a great weekend.
I love Pink Floyd's Pulse. I picked that one up too. It is cool to get my #1 Grail and finish off my VH collection. I am a happy girl! Have a great weekend!
Melinda: you not understanding Beefheart is one reason I cant subscribe! It is considered one of the great seminal jazz rock country poetry blues albums of the 60s!
When I made that video I had just bought that record and hadn't listened to it much yet. It is an unusual album but I didn't get rid of it and I wouldn't consider it a mistake. Take care.
@@MelindaMurphy Thanks for your reply. My biggest mistakes include buying Jimi Hendrix's "Crash Landing" which features Jimi on guitar/vocals backed by musicians who recorded their parts years AFTER he had died. A total rip off! You too take care ❤
Dude, that record is objectively awful. I don’t want to have to strain my brain and pretend to enjoy pretentious spooge like Trout Mask... Safe as Milk is good. But to be performatively snobbish and pretentious and say “I CANT” subscribe cuz you don’t like this rickety album is totally lame
@@zackamania6534 Whilst I agree that not subscribing to a chanel because of a difference in musical taste/opinions is a little silly, it's equally silly do describe beefhearts trout mask, or indeed any record as "objectively bad". The fact that many people, myself included, love Beefheart's music, means that it can't, by definition, be objectively bad.
Clever idea Melinda on this video. Nice tidbit on the Captain Beefheart. A very popular band in the VC that I just can’t get into. I’ve tried but it just isn’t there. Would love to own some original pressings of the Cranberry’s. I was lucky enough to grab that VH lp at a good price. I think 30 dollars. Only track I like is Chinatown. Enjoyed! Andre’
Needless to say I paid way more than $30 dollars for the VH album. Good for you. Captain Beefheart is just a little weird for me but I like having a copy to play every once in a while. Take care.
I collect 50s-60s jazz lps for the pleasure of the music, not for value. I try not to pay anymore than $2 for an lp. If I happen to get a lemon, it's easy to throw it in the trash. Nothing is more exciting for me than to find a clean dollar lp of a jazz musician/group I have never heard of and it turns out to be a gem.
That sounds great. If you are spending only $2 for records then mistakes are no big deal and if you do find gems, they are just that much more special. Prices of vinyl that I want in my collection are much more expensive where I live. Take care!
I know it is predominantly men who collect vinyl but my sister, niece, and daughter are into it too. I loved records as a child and that love never left me. Thank you for watching! Have a great day!
I did exactly the same thing with the Bowie record. Paid about the same as you. I still think having the bootleg is pretty cool though. It sounds good to me, and it was interesting to find out about it... and it is still a part of Bowie history : )
@@Wests-nw8cu We saw the Magic Band when they toured the UK a few years ago. Denney Walley saw my Zappa tattoo and said 'Ooh, Margaret Thatcher'. I've spoken to Jeff Cotton on comments a couple of times. It's taken him a long time to come to terms with the abuse he took from Don.
@@bigtone1348 That's horrifying. You gotta wonder why musicians stay in bands like that. If you can play, you can assume you can work and I wouldn't have thought CB was such a high value gig...
I’m new to collecting records, I started this year, and I decided that I’m only buying what I love. For the most part I do, but one day I found a great deal on Fleetwood Mac’s Greatest Hits. I wasn’t a fan, but that changed as soon as I played it. I was amazed that I liked every single song. I was like, what’s this? How am I 46 years old and just discovering their music? How did I live this long, and didn’t bother to ever check them out? So for me, buying a record because it was on sale worked out great. 😁
That is a great point. If buying something new helped you discover Fleetwood Mac then that was a wise purchase. I only discovered The Beatles a few years ago through vinyl collecting. Now they are one of my favorite bands so I understand what you are saying. In my video, I showed records that I was already familiar with and bought them because they were on sale really cheap. In my heart, I knew they would never become a favorite. I guess that is the difference. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and have a great day.
Beefheart is certainly an acquired taste. I like Trout Mask Replica, but enjoy some of his other work a bit more (Bat Chain Puller and Safe as Milk). I've made all of these "mistakes" in my years of collecting as well.
I'm glad to be in such good company when it comes to my silly little mistakes. Lol. I have heard alot of people rave about Safe As Milk. It must be a good one. Trout Mask Replica is a cool one to have. The cover cracks me up. Thank you! Enjoy your weekend.
As a newbie to vinyl, even though I was born in '82, my journey in music was cassette to CD to streaming and an emptiness laid dormant for a long time. Wanting to start listening and collecting vinyl, I am finding your videos super satisfying and informative! Thanks for sharing your love with us, it is really meaningful for a greenhorn like me 🙂👍
"Trout Mask Replica" is perhaps THE MOST polarizing album ever. It's really hard to swallow at first, but after the fourth listening (or so) front to back you start realizing the genius that Don Van Vliet was. Once his approach to music clicks with you, you can't have enough of him. This album was a big hole in my collection, but original copies in great condition are ridiculously expensive. I owe Mr. Jack White an eternal debt of gratitude for making this record affordable after so much time. His reissue of the album is excellent. And glad to know Van Halen is your favorite band! "1984" is the last album from them that I really liked, but anyway VH is one of the greatest rock bands ever without a doubt.
Hello Melinda; I will say the CB - TMR price was good. It is not many peoples cup of tea. Unless you are a fan & enjoy avant garde music. The Doors LP looks like an import from Germany. The Bowie counterfeit was well circulated at the time. The original LP cover photo was different. Still good to have. I would have made them an offer of about 12 to 15$ tops. His 2nd & 3rd Lp's were on Mercury before Bowie signed with RCA & they reprinted the LP's with new covers. The 1st was on DERAM. Should you ever see it. Hope this helps you. Always sample first or accept the worst. I would have called on the warped record. The mistakes are not bad. You would not believe how many records sold in stores we're phony. IE: Saturday Night Fever. Take care. Tina & Pat!!!!
Thank you so much Tina and Pat. If I had known the Bowie album was a fake, I wouldn't have bought it at all. I knew it had a different cover and I may buy a legit one of those someday. You are right, I should have called the store about the Pink Floyd album. They could have made a note of it so when I come back I could do an exchange. It still plays but it should have cost much less. Captain Beefheart is definitely different. I think it is a cool addition even if I only pull it out occasionally. Have a great weekend and you always leave me with great information. I really appreciate you so much.
If Don was still alive he'd be appalled at the hollow, materialist hipsterism on display here. Believe me, you will NEVER be able to appreciate TMR, not in a thousand years.
That's what I was thinking...Don would be rolling in his grave if he knew Trout Mask got sandwiched between Donna Summer and Rhianna... On the other hand, he must be rolling in his grave anyway ever since Jack White re-released TMR with a cotton bag, a button badge, a patch and a real trout mask in the package, so it would be sold exclusively to the kind of people Don hated!!!
Many years ago I bought Herman's Hermits Greatest Hits. Got it home and it was all re-recordings. UGH. Bought another version, and it was the same re-recordings, different packaging. Double UGH. The third time I found it, it had all the original recordings. Finally had what I wanted! BTW, gorgeous house!
Thank you for the compliment! The rerecordings are so annoying and they don't put enough info on the covers so you know what you are getting. I'm so glad you finally got what you wanted. Have a great weekend!
Melinda: Look further on RUclips. There is a way to flatten a warped record. It takes time and patience, but it can be done. Wish you the best, and thanks for putting out all this information. Love your site.
The store manager that I bought the record from recognized their sticker and offered to take it back which was really nice. I was planning on having it straightened out. Thank you for letting me know. I will keep it in mind in case I make that mistake again. 😃
nah just playin'. i'm envious of that orig copy of "trout mask" is all, mine's a boring ol' late '70s warner bros one. do you like any other beefheart recs? this isn't the easiest one to get into or in my opinion even the best one.
I made a little mistake by not paying attention when buying this record one morning. It was a Charlie Daniel's Band(Fire on the mountain.) Record. I pulled it off the shelf to make sure it was the proper record inside. It was. When I got home, I noticed a persons name written on the label (side 1). It was autographed by Charlie Daniels. I paid $1.99 for it!🤩🥰😁
What in the world would a woman of this caliber of wealth and class doing buying a twisted eccentric album like Trout mask ???? EEEW gross this is unpleasant
Excellent video Melinda. Very honest as well. I bought Wings at the Speed of Sound on the day of release in 1976. When I played it at home, both sides played the same songs. Since I couldn't afford a second copy I took it back to the record shop and they exchanged it. Looking back, maybe I should have kept a hold of that one😀. Cheers...
Interesting. I have never heard of any Paul McCartney albums that were like that. I think you did the right thing so that you could enjoy the whole album. I guess mistakes like that happened back then and still do. I'm not sure if it would be worth money now or not. Take care.
Sorry Melinda, but Rihanna??? Almost as bad as Justin Bieber. A talentless "model" who warbles a few lines into a computer and technology takes care of the rest.
I'm just getting into vinyl. And wow is it an intimidating - I had no idea I would actually need to learn stuff. :) I love your channel and this video is very helpful. Thanks!
Lol. Don't be intimidated. This is a very fun hobby. You just need to look closely at a few things. If you do make a mistake, you are not alone. Thank you so much!
I hope you kept Trout Mask Replica. It's not an easy listen to start with, but if you keep going back to it then one day it will click with you. Then you will realise why it's talked about in the way it is!
I bought a record flattener and have flattened a couple hundred records already. Warps no longer scare me. Look up Vinyl Flat... and get the heated pouch. Worth every penny.
Trost Mask Replica is one of the best albums ever. In 20 years or so, you find the key to that kind of music. Don't give up!! Greetz from Munich, C.L. P.S: Take a look on other Beefheart Records. 'Safe as Milk' is easy stuff. And 'Mirror Man' blows you away (psychedelic blues rock in four long tracks). Or the freaky Zappa/Beefheart Album 'Bongo Fury' - both, the Captain and Frankie, started a live long friendship at school in Mojave (ca.Mid-1950ties).
@@MelindaMurphy 'Spotlight Kid' is a good way into the 'cosmos' of Don Van Vliet aka Captain Beefheart. Give him a chance, he was the freakiest musician of the entire USA. Take an ear on 'Safe As Milk'. And give 'Trout Mask Replica' short spins. Slowly, in short steps. Song for song. Nobody can hear the complete 'Trout Mask Replica' album. Too much pain, dirt, sweat and tears. Listen one side, thats enough, the other sides days or weeks later. Don't give up! With the years (eventually many years), you can see a little light at the end of these wild and freaky roller coaster output. And then you understand Van Vliets Message! Best Regards, C.L.
Rookie mistakes. Always check for warps. Even if they don’t have a listening statin. Rest it on your finger tips and view the record on its side to see if it’s warped.
Two years ago,I ordered LL Cool J's Radio album on Discogs and when it arrived,it came in a plain white sleeve instead of the actual cover. I could've killed someone that day.
I try to listen to and sample any used LPs whenever I I buy from my local record store. But unfortunately I don't always have the time to do that either so I've had a few that I wish I could have returned. They would have let me but when it turns into 3 months before you can make it back in it's a little too long so I haven't even tried. I like it when a record store has turntables set up to let you sample. But I do also worry that I may be messing up a great LP by using some needle that should have been replaced 2,000 hours ago haha. Whenever I take Uber to go to the record store, I've never yet spent less than 5 hours there during the day listening and shopping. And due to the fact it cost me $30 plus to take Uber round trip, I'm definitely going to make sure I don't get home and wish I had sampled something. But it's another story if I'm riding with a friend and we go by because they're not wanting to hang out in a record store and wait for me to sample things. I'm feeling lucky there stopping by so I can run in. So sometimes you have to take the risks if you want to get something but a good record store will allow you to return or exchange problem LPs if you can get back sooner than I can usually and I'm glad they do that :-) Brian in Fort Worth 🎶
I don't blame you for taking your time listening and shopping. 😀 I'm very thankful for record stores with good return policies as well. Thank you and take care.
Van Halen is my favorite band so Balance was my Christmas present last year and ADKOT was my birthday present. I am very happy and fortunate to have them. Thank you and don't be jealous! 😊 I'm sure you have killer records!
I think our emotions run high when we find something we have been looking for or just think someone made a mistake when pricing a record. I have bought lps and then realized I should of looked closer on condition and the proper disc. I have a check list in my head I go thru before I buy a record and it is what you just covered in your video, right disc, warps, first pressing for me, and no scratches I can feel with my fingers. Your Bowie looks like record club pressing because it has the three bars at the top right corner. I wonder where it was pressed and if that might be the reason for the difference from a in house Mercury pressing. I will check and see if I can find out anything. Nice video and don't worry about the errors we all in the VC have done the same. God bless you and your family.
WOW, you are right about the Bowie being a fake. I looked on eBay and there is a bunch like yours for sell and people are selling as originals and not knowing. Discogs has yours there with all the info about it, I did not know they faked this record either. I guess you learn something new every day.
Thank you so much for your kind words. If you find out anything about the Bowie album let me know. All my research points to it being a counterfeit. I would love to be wrong though. You listed some great tips to keep in mind while vinyl hunting. I have definitely learned some things along the way. Take care and have a great weekend!
Always check for warped vinyl...even brand new /sealed LPs. They can be warped too. I have tried everything to try and fix a warp. It just doesn't work. It may look flat after putting some heat on it between two glass plates or tiles but the sound quality is badly affected.
The Van Halen was not necessarily a mistake, if you would have purchased it in 2013 it is highly unlikely that it would be on the red vinyl, colored vinyl will always cost a bit more but it's also more collectible.
The Van Halen album was only issued once on red vinyl to the best of my knowledge. I paid extra because it is out of print. I should have bought it way sooner. 😣 Oh well.
Yeah, The Doors Greatest Hits is a 2 disc/LP set. I have it on CD but not on vinyl. I had something similar happen with a Barry White compilation. The case and cassette looked like they belonged together at a glance but it turned out the cassette was from a different Barry White comp. I have that Donna Summer compilation. That's probably all I really need of hers. :) I remember Amberle posted a video a while back where she showed her copy of Prince's 1999 that was missing a record too. I only have one counterfeit which is a Massive Attack album I showed earlier this year. I kept it because it still sounded great and the counterfeit was so convincing I only discovered it when checking the deadwax which was missing all the etchings. As soon as you pulled out Atom Heart Mother, I thought to myself "I bet that's a pirate copy." It was heavily pirated back in the day. But nope! It's a warp. I've had that before too. I'm now careful about looking for warps but occasionally an edge warp slips past my gaze if I'm in a hurry. Those can be tricky to spot. I think most of us have some records where we wish we could go back in time and grab an album (or a lot of albums!) at the retail price back then. The price of some albums has gotten crazy. Really enjoyable video, Melinda! I may have to post a response.
Thanks for the reassurance that I am not alone in making these mistakes. I would love to see you make a video and educate us on what you have learned and what to watch out for. 😀
Great video Melinda. I had no idea my David Bowie album was a counterfeit. You mentioned those details and I pulled my copy and confirmed it's a counterfeit. My son did some additional research and there is a couple seconds edit on the audio as well. Keep it up.
I'm so sorry to deliver the bad news. If it is a record that you have always enjoyed then I wouldn't let it bother you. I found out it was counterfeit before I listened to it so my opinion was tainted. Thanks very much for your really kind comments. I appreciate the encouragement.
I once bought an original UK 1st edition of David Howie Hunky Dory, took it home, dropped a needle on it and then discovered that it was in fact Aladdin Sane wax in a Hunky Dory sleeve. 😱😄
Don't know the technical terms but most records from the late 60's to late 70's were made of thicker vinyl and didn't warp, also wanted to add that the covers from original pressings were much better than later reissues...
Melinda, this was a fantastic video with a lot of great advice! Especially buying something you're not going to listen to. I've fallen into that "gotta have it" trap many times only to realize that I'm never going to listen to it. Congrats on your grail! Enjoy it! Have a great upcoming weekend!
Thank you Bill. I do think that buying records I rarely play is probably the biggest mistake I have made. I no longer bargain shop unless I am sure I will love it. Have a great weekend too Bill!
I agree. Buying used is risky. Reissues can at times be disappointing as well (warps, bad sound quality). This is a hobby full of taking chances. Lol. Thank you and take care.
Hi Melinda i have successfully removed warps from my records with two pieces of plate glass, a hair dryer and a couple of heavy books for weight. Place the record on one of the plate glass surfaces, heat the record with a hair dryer evenly not too hot until it starts to relax. Place the other plate glass surface on top and a couple of heavy books and let set overnight. About 90% or more of the warp will be removed. Hope this helps and keep on spinning.
I made a lot of mistakes in my record journey for both 78 shellec and vinyl, from handling, alchohol, weird lubricants, storage, objects around my records, etc. I have also made every mistake you did when buying, but now we know.
Absolutely! I couldn't agree more, especially when it comes to buying records that you'll actually play. As a new collector myself, I made the mistake of purchasing too many during sales due to FOMO, and unfortunately, many of them never sparked my interest or got played. In the end, I ended up selling them at a loss.
The records I showed are still in my collection and still aren't being played. I no longer buy records just because they are on sale. I ask myself the critical question of whether I will truly listen to each record before I buy it. Thank you and take care. 🤗❤️
Another great vid! I'm heading down to Phoenix in a couple of weeks to do some vinyl hunting, and I plan on taking into account the tips you've provided, since I wouldn't be able to return them in a timely manner. So, thanks for doing that! I've been there a few times, myself. Regarding Captain Beefheart, "Trout Mask Replica" is very much an acquired taste, which I still have yet to acquire. Even years of listening to Frank Zappa (who produced the album) didn't prepare me for that album. Maybe it'll click with me, someday. Anyhoo, have a great evening!
Well thank you very much. Please don't repeat the mistakes I have made. Lol. Just attention to detail and research will keep you out of trouble. You are probably a smart shopper and wouldn't have done any of this anyway. Have fun and happy hunting!
My daughter almost made the same mistake with Queen Live Killers, we were at a record convention, she was going to pay for it, and I asked her to check both records and there was only one record instead of 2, close call. I think all of us have made mistakes, I have my share for sure, it's part of collecting, interesting topic though.
I am so glad your daughter caught that mistake. That would have been very disappointing for her. Thanks for sharing your experience. It happens way too often. Take care!
I've NEVER seen a cover with 2 pockets that wasn't a 2-disk set - you gotta check to see they're both there. And "The Doors Greatest Hits"??? Greatest hits albums are the bunk, usually only the consumer-pleasing garbage that panders to the masses! The several original albums from which the "hits" were drawn put the songs in context, buy the whole albums or nothing!
How many of us have made The Trout Mask Mistake? Hopefully I’ll learn to love it. Grabbed mine at RSD for 35. I have learned though, when I buy a record new, I have to KNOW that I like it. Through personal experience.
Mistakes - generally is that idea as a collector that you must buy complete discographies of an artist or band and secondly the addictive need to buy and buy and buy and buy knowing that you will never be able to listen to all of them and finally when you buy so you are part of the in crowd - On my channel I try to be detailed about the album which I review and that forces me to listen repeatedly so difficult to fake it - I'm not interested in bragging about how valuable this pressing is - this is for audiophiles who neglect the music because of an obsession over value
I agree that being a completist requires buying records that will never be listened to. I'm glad that you spend alot of time with your records. Thank you and have a great weekend.
Hi Melinda! When i saw the title of your video i thought this is going to be fun. In all my years of collecting (and fortunately or unfortunately in the pursuit of perfection) i have made some mistakes that i regret out of temptation or stupidity. My first thought of one of your purchases is could that counterfit bowie album actually be worth something?..They sure went through alot of trouble to reproduce it...especially to actually make a new pressing. That's alot of work!...That was also really nice of you to alert the record store owner of the missing record. I just recently purchased several albums each at low prices ($6-$10.each) I've done this before...i'll add it up in my head and realize i could have purchased something rare and that i really wanted for $30.-$50 dollars. Cheap is not always better. I should know that by now. Also just recently i purchased a very rare original record (jazz singer lucy reed) from 1956 in as the seller said in excellent condition. Unfortunately it was in only -VG condition. I kept it and a week or so later i saw the same record in VG+ to E condition so i immediatly pressed the bid button. Now iam locked in to buy it unless someone else places a higher bid. In the meantime i remembered a japanese pressing in mint condition for only $17. But when went to check it it was already sold! Lol! I know your not my psychiatrist but i think i need help. Ha!...anyhow that was a great video melinda and i can relate to your experiences and i know other collectors have some funny stories to tell. Thanks again Melinda..nice you've completed your van halen studio collection!..p.s. There is a vinyl flattener available for around $140. Not cheap but they can sell for thousands of dollars. It's called THE VINYL FLAT. They are on youtube...Did you go to Euclid Records/Joe Schwab in st.louis? They have an excellent site on ebay!
Hi Alan. The madness of being a vinyl collector. Lol. I have went to a record store and found things to only think later that I could have bought a Grail instead. I hope you get the jazz record in the condition you really want it to be in. You can always sell the one you were a little disappointed in. I am very happy to have all the Van Halen albums now. Not a cheap way to go because they won't reissue any of the Sammy Hagar stuff. I can't really imagine that Bowie album being worth anything. Now that I know it is a counterfeit, it just looks cheap to me. Lol. Thanks for sharing some of your vinyl regrets. We all have them. Take care and I hope your weekend is amazing!
Great tips. My biggest mistake is buying the same album three times because I don't have them cataloged. Lol
teresa Taylor bad memory
@@kostashocuspocus6576 yep. Went a little crazy when I first got back into vinyl. So.much.
Thank you Melinda. I recently started to purchase vinyl purely for nostalgic reasons. You made the most profound statement when you said "buy what you love." That's exactly what I've been doing.
Good for you. Vinyl collecting is fun, especially when you run into albums that take you back in time. Have a great weekend!
Thank you melinda! As a young vinyl collector, these tips really do help. Much appreciated :)
I am thrilled at the thought that someone else can learn from my mistakes. Thank you so much. This is wonderful!
My biggest mistake is accidentally buying shit that I already own
I haven't done that yet but I can certainly understand how easy that would be. Thanks for sharing.
I can see that happening to me, I have an awful memory. So I keep a list on my phone, since I just started collecting keeping notes has been easy.
Been there, still doing it! :(
She called "frownland" a song LOL Tourist collector right here. I must say $18 is a steal for that particular pressing. Fun video thanks for sharing.
What's wrong with that? It's true that Captain Beefheart may not be everyone's cup of tea, like Ms. Murphy said, but he's got MAJOR props from musicians from almost every genre you can think of. He worked closely with Frank Zappa a great number of times. A whole lot of people call "Trout Mask Replica" *pure genius*and while I'm certainly not always in the mood to listen to it, I would have to agree.
Captain Beefheart bores the hell out of me, and I don't blame you for not listening to any Sting albums --- but you dear are utterly charming. I'd listen to you reading a phone book. Thanks for this video, which contains a lot of lessons for vinyl buyers. I love your concise reviews of each album. Shame on that store for selling a warped record. The manager carefully inspects each record, so he had to know it was warped. Red vinyl is extremely nice! You are one of the most fun to watch video presenters I have ever seen! You are intoxicating in a classy way, lady. Keep up the great work Melinda!
Thank you so much for your very nice compliments. I really appreciate it. I went to the store that I bought the warped record from this past weekend and he saw the video and recognized the sticker and told me to bring it back. That store is great and they are very honest. They have a huge inventory and it is hard to just look at and see the warp. Again, thank you so much and have a great week!
I made a 60 dollar mistake and bought a crosley cruiser
Funny!😄
Congrats on the VH! I also need this record to complete the VH collection. I picked this up and put it down four times over a two year period at my local record store (Forever Young Records). It was 39.99 new when it came out and I just didn’t want to spend the money! Finally one day I went back in early 2104 to buy it and it was gone and is now worth over 100 bucks! Live and learn!
Yep! My story too. I waited too long to buy my copy as well. I hope you find a great copy and don't have to spend the big bucks on it. Thank you and take care!
Theres no right or wrong in what your taste in music is. I will say sometimes albums will grow on you. I bought TMR in 1970 and couldnt get through side one. Years later( in the mid 80's) i listened again and loved it! In the 17 year interim i listened to Howlin Wolf, Sun Ra, Albert Ayler, John Coltrane, etc. A lot of CB's influences were unknown to me in 1970. It took some time to sink in.
Yeah the Captain. One of the original roots rockers.
This happened to me with Never Mind the Bullocks..., once you hone your ear to listen past the noise you hear the rough chord structure and musical sound. This never happened with TMR.
Hi Melinda, the biggest mistakes I have made in the past is buying albums on a “hunch” after only listening to one or songs, believing that it will be good.Thankfully I do more research these days…
Cheers for your great channel
I understand that. I have bought records on the strength of one song in the past. I no longer do that. I have to like the majority of the record in order to buy it now. Thank you and take care.
Here's a tip for everybody that collects records. Know your record labels both first pressings and reissues before you start buying. I can't tell you how many times online or in stores that I've seen a seller trying to pass off a reissue as a first pressing while charging a premium price. They will state it's a first pressing when it's a late 70's or an 80's reissue instead. A lot of people don't know that and end up getting ripped off by paying more money for a less valuable record. Some will be sneaky and try to put a reissue in a first pressing jacket to fool the customer into paying more. There are a lot of crooks out there trying to rip people off since vinyl has made a big comeback. So, know what the labels and jackets look like before you make your purchases so you don't end up wasting your money.
Excellent advice! It always pays to do your research. Thank you!
Sir, Thanks for the advice.
Excellent! People don't talk too much about their mistakes. This was an eye opener. I sometimes don't take the time to check/scrutinise the records I'm buying. I will from now on. Thanks for posting!
Thank you. I'm glad I could help and hopefully you got a good laugh at some of my mistakes as well. Take care!😄
@@MelindaMurphy As a record enthusiast myself, I like to call them 'hiccups' instead of mistakes. Lol!
I am an avid vinyl collector myself been collecting for nearly 40 years have well over 2000 albums, my big takeaway from this seems to be know what you are looking for know your record labels..PS. the Captain Beefheart is a good find the album is definitely not for the Casual listener but a true gem.
I'm sure with 40 years experience you have the knowledge to avoid all these mistakes. Hopefully, I will be where you are at some point. I have no regrets about buying Captain Beefheart. It has been very entertaining.
@@MelindaMurphy well thank you for the reply I know I've made all of these same mistakes myself pick up things I thought was an original release that ended up being a reissue or a bootleg, and like you with the Van Halen LP let things go that I said oh I'll pick it up later and then it ended up going out of print LOL no avoiding some of these mistakes.
Trout Mask is a great album. I had to listen to it several times and did a bunch of research about the album and how it came about and recorded. After learning the history and myths about the process, it became more and more amazing. Now one of my favorites and takes me away in moments. Cool vid.
Thank you so much. Sometimes it takes a few listens to love a record. The reward is worth the effort!
Beefheart can never be a mistake! It’s the only album I’m scared my wife might walk in on me listening to!
Haha! I understand. 😄😄😄
I bought the "deluxe CD/DVD" version of "A Different Kind Of Truth". The DVD is them singing a few songs acoustic. I really liked it. DLR sounds pretty good on it too
Oh wow! I would love to see that. I will have to see if it's on RUclips somewhere. Thank you for mentioning this. ♥️🤗
That Captain Beefheart Album Trout Mask Replica is a Very Weird album. I can’t get into that one. It’s hard to listen to.
It is a tough one but it is kind of interesting. Lol.
Better off starting with the better and much more accessible Shiny Beast.
Trout Mask Replica: absolute classic and NOT a waste of your $. (I have never seen it on vinyl.) I have it on CD for 30+ years. In long box too! Happy collecting!
I still have that record. I'm happy to have it. ♥️
@@MelindaMurphy For trout mask replica, you said it may not be your cup of tea. Then why not change the cup without change the tea? And try again? What I mean is that you can see that this album contains a lot of short pieces. How about try listening it as one whole piece? Vinyl record cannot do this but I know that some software can help delete the fade in to zero and chain each of the tracks in an album into one.
This video was just recommend to a bunch of us, get ready for new vinyl followers
Hi. May I ask where you received the recommendation? I feel like I owe someone a thank you. 😊 I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and let me know. Thank you
Great video! I once bought the Beatles red album “The Beatles/1962-1966” but when I got home I realized the vinyl inside the album art was the blue album record. I called my local record store and I was able to schedule a trade for the blue album in their store that had the red album’s record inside :)
Lucky break for you and the record store! I'm glad it worked out for you!
Hi Melinda, as it turns out, that counterfeit Bowie album is actually quite rare, and worth much more than you think! Also, if you can listen to Trout Mask Replica a few times, even though it's a challenge at first, I think that you will find that it becomes very interesting and so far ahead of it's time, that you may be pleasantly surprised by it.. It's a magical record, and really quite a brilliant piece of work. Please give it a close listen, I think you might be glad that you did! It's famous for a reason.. You found some great records without realizing it! Good job! Lary
What a change! Captain Beefheart to Donna Summers... Saying the Trout Mask Replica is different is one of the greatest understatements...
It's definitely the most unique album in my collection. 😀 Thank you and have a great weekend. 🎃
The Best of the Doors album is a reissue The all red Elektrs was started in the 80s
I wouldn't have minded a reissue of the right record in the right cover. I should have been paying more attention to the title. Have a great week.
Hi Melinda, I really enjoyed your video. In 40 years of record collecting, I've somehow managed to avoid Trout Mask Replica, and based on what I've read of others' impressions of that album, I think I will continue to steer clear of it. My only exposure to Captain Beefheart was Shiny Beast, which I didn't really enjoy and traded soon after I acquired it. Incidentally, I listen to a lot of transgressive / experimental / odd music, like Nurse with Wound for example, and I never feel bad about admitting that I don't enjoy something that is considered a staple in the genre. Feel free to like what you like, or not like it! Thank you for your opinion of the Cranberries album. I don't have any of their works on vinyl, but have been thinking about springing for some of the reissues. I met Dolores O'Riordan when they were in the U.S. promoting their first album and they were incredible in concert. You did a great job of reviewing the Van Halen album. Have you ever heard David Lee Roth's Eat Em' and Smile? That's such a great record and I don't hear it mentioned very much.
I have and love Eat em and Smile. That is DLR's best album. Cool story about meeting Dolores. A huge fan would love this Cranberries album. I was expecting all the original songs and music and that was why I was disappointed. People say that Trout Mask Replica has to be listened to a dozen times before one can appreciate it. Why should we have to work that hard to like an album? Lol. Great hearing from you and have a great week!
Wow, your house looks so nice it almost looks like a fake background!
Thank you!
I make it a rule to open new vinyl at the store (after purchase) to check for defects such as factory scratches, and if they have a turntable on sight to check for warps. If I find an issue I can immediately show the store and get a refund or swap for a good copy. Saves me a lot of time.
That's a great idea. It would be hard to argue a refund or exchange if the record hadn't left the store.
Hi Melinda
My local store has a record dewarp machine. I dropped off a record. They bake it slow for like two hours and then it cools slow and most of the warp is gone. It works on up and down warps but not warps that distort the roundness of the disc. It's worth asking your local indie stores if they have one, so you can fix your Atom Heart Mother record.
Our local record store was going to fix it for me however, the record store that I bought it from saw the video and told me I could trade it in. Both record stores were very nice about it.
My mistake was that I gave-away all my lp's about 30 years ago...
We all did!
Great and informative video. Biggest vinyl mistakes I've made were overpaying for some used records. But a big mistake that didn't cost too much was not taking the vinyl out and checking it when buying a copy of Ratt's Invasion Of Your Privacy. Oddly, it had a Ratt album in it. But it was Out Of The Cellar. Eventually got another copy of Invasion Of Your Privacy with the correct album inside. But now I've got to find the right cover for Out Of The Cellar.
As you have seen, I did that one too with The Doors album. Lol. At least that isn't an expensive one to get. I hope you find the right cover for a wonderful price soon.
I dont understand why you are buying records of Music you don't like.. Not my cup of tea.. In the 80's as a teenager I bought the albums of the artist I liked.. Not to collect them but to listen to them..
I do buy the music I love. Even the ones I rarely listen to have a couple great songs on them.
You should describe your listening system. If you're passionate about your music that should carry over to your choice of gear.
I enjoy the idea of just picking up a few records you’ve never heard before and you might end up finding something you really like
As an 18 nearly 19 year old I second that, I buy only what I like and if it's cheap what I might like and therefore take the plunge on something random.
No point buying what you know you won't like and is just a waste of money/space (if multiple) for you. But I get people can be influenced or think they like something, but don't etc
How to fix a warped record. Stick record in cover between two large ceramic tiles. Add weight (10 - 15 lbs.) on top. Let sit in the sun on a hot day for 4-5 hours. Again, must be a hot sunny day. The latest Dylan album came to me with a crazy warp. A friend suggested this and it worked for me.
Thank you Ed for the info. Take care.
Cool!!! A woman who collects records Usually it's all guys.....
My sister, niece and daughter are into vinyl too. It must run in the family. Lol.
Some people are in it
for the money not for
the music.
Don't take for granted.
"HERE TODAY, GONE
TOMORROW"
FROM MANDRILL.
So enjoy your hobby,
Melinda.
Trout Mask Replica is an album that I know I will slowly work my way towards but I am surely not rushing it. I can see the appeal musically but you have to really get in the right mindset for it (and I dont mean with any sort of substance!). In terms of buying mistakes, theres been a few bootlegs where the quality wasn't up to snuff. I aim to not regret most of my purchases but there have been cases where some purchases were impulse buys and time would pass before it dropped to an astounding price that was lower than what I purchased the record for (example: Monkees Live 67 that I purchased $20 for, went down to $12 a week later!)
I bought Trout Mask Replica in hopes of liking it. I'm not sure I am there yet but it is still cool to have in the collection and the price I paid was way below it's value. I have impulse buys that I probably shouldn't have bought as well. Lol.
You should check out the album The former 12 year old genius by Coati Mundi.
has a cool captain beefheart cover on it (am i thinking of the right album?)
@@doorag_nationwide yes!
Some very good advice for collectors and a bit of catharsis for you! On the Van Halen issue, there could have been any number of reasons why they didn't return to the studio, so please don't berate yourself for that. My biggest mistakes have involved trusting sellers - always on Discogs - against my better judgement. Ultimately I stopped using it. Now I'm going to get another coffee and watch "Vinyl Collecting Isn't As Fun As It Used To Be!" :-)
I have had a Discogs disappointment as well. I am always nervous when buying from someone on Discogs and avoid it as much as possible. I had to pay up for the Van Halen album but I have no regrets with that purchase now. Thank you and take care.
As a newer record collector (since last year) I primarily use it for cataloging and using it for a wishlist
I was in a Barnes & Noble store in Delaware yesterday.
The WHO " WHO'S NEXT"....
$24.99...I bought the remastered expanded CD edition of WHO'S NEXT years ago, for $20.00! So glad I retired from vinyl , 30 years ago!
Vinyl isn't cheap that is for sure. CD's are definitely the better bargain at the moment.
Hi Melinda !
I get so happy when other collectors completes their collection of favourite bands or find a special record grail. In this case , you did both in one. I am truly happy for you. Congratulations ! I can totally relate to it myself. Billy Idol’s Cyberpunk and the reissue of Pink Floyd’s Pulse were two of my biggest grails that si have bought the last 18 months. Take care now and have a great weekend.
I love Pink Floyd's Pulse. I picked that one up too. It is cool to get my #1 Grail and finish off my VH collection. I am a happy girl! Have a great weekend!
*Why are all the beautiful record collectors married?..l.o.l....You've got great taste in music and one lucky husband Melinda!!*
Lol. Thank you very much!
Wow this video blew up. Great advice! I still make some of these mistakes haha. The warp mistake is easy to make. That trout mask is a steal!
Thank you Dillon. I bet you have seen just about everything. Lol
You still have that copy I traded you because I loathed this record so much?? LOL!
Melinda: you not understanding Beefheart is one reason I cant subscribe! It is considered one of the great seminal jazz rock country poetry blues albums of the 60s!
When I made that video I had just bought that record and hadn't listened to it much yet. It is an unusual album but I didn't get rid of it and I wouldn't consider it a mistake. Take care.
@@MelindaMurphy Thanks for your reply. My biggest mistakes include buying Jimi Hendrix's "Crash Landing" which features Jimi on guitar/vocals backed by musicians who recorded their parts years AFTER he had died. A total rip off! You too take care ❤
Dude, that record is objectively awful. I don’t want to have to strain my brain and pretend to enjoy pretentious spooge like Trout Mask...
Safe as Milk is good. But to be performatively snobbish and pretentious and say “I CANT” subscribe cuz you don’t like this rickety album is totally lame
@@zackamania6534 Whilst I agree that not subscribing to a chanel because of a difference in musical taste/opinions is a little silly, it's equally silly do describe beefhearts trout mask, or indeed any record as "objectively bad". The fact that many people, myself included, love Beefheart's music, means that it can't, by definition, be objectively bad.
Clever idea Melinda on this video. Nice tidbit on the Captain Beefheart. A very popular band in the VC that I just can’t get into. I’ve tried but it just isn’t there. Would love to own some original pressings of the Cranberry’s. I was lucky enough to grab that VH lp at a good price. I think 30 dollars. Only track I like is Chinatown. Enjoyed! Andre’
Needless to say I paid way more than $30 dollars for the VH album. Good for you. Captain Beefheart is just a little weird for me but I like having a copy to play every once in a while. Take care.
Sad to see you are a collector....but not a music collector.
I collect 50s-60s jazz lps for the pleasure of the music, not for value. I try not to pay anymore than $2 for an lp. If I happen to get a lemon, it's easy to throw it in the trash. Nothing is more exciting for me than to find a clean dollar lp of a jazz musician/group I have never heard of and it turns out to be a gem.
That sounds great. If you are spending only $2 for records then mistakes are no big deal and if you do find gems, they are just that much more special. Prices of vinyl that I want in my collection are much more expensive where I live. Take care!
not your usual record collector - which makes it interesting
I know it is predominantly men who collect vinyl but my sister, niece, and daughter are into it too. I loved records as a child and that love never left me. Thank you for watching! Have a great day!
I did exactly the same thing with the Bowie record. Paid about the same as you. I still think having the bootleg is pretty cool though. It sounds good to me, and it was interesting to find out about it... and it is still a part of Bowie history : )
I ended up giving that record away and am still waiting to find a replacement copy. I probably should have kept it. Oh well. Thank you and take care.
@@MelindaMurphy Fingers crossed we both find a true original at some point : )
In Brazil, the David Bowie's album.David is wearing a large dress, not that way in the united stated. E. M. I recorders and RCA victors in Brazil
Sorry, for your (them) mistakes.
I can think of another reason for TM Replica to be on the holy crap wall.... because that's what you say when you first listen to it!
Haha! Excellent point. 🤗
If you got ears you gotta listen.....
@@bigtone1348 Hey, I love the record... Zoot Horn Rollo is one of my guitar heroes.
@@Wests-nw8cu We saw the Magic Band when they toured the UK a few years ago. Denney Walley saw my Zappa tattoo and said 'Ooh, Margaret Thatcher'.
I've spoken to Jeff Cotton on comments a couple of times. It's taken him a long time to come to terms with the abuse he took from Don.
@@bigtone1348 That's horrifying. You gotta wonder why musicians stay in bands like that. If you can play, you can assume you can work and I wouldn't have thought CB was such a high value gig...
I’m new to collecting records, I started this year, and I decided that I’m only buying what I love. For the most part I do, but one day I found a great deal on Fleetwood Mac’s Greatest Hits. I wasn’t a fan, but that changed as soon as I played it. I was amazed that I liked every single song. I was like, what’s this? How am I 46 years old and just discovering their music? How did I live this long, and didn’t bother to ever check them out? So for me, buying a record because it was on sale worked out great. 😁
That is a great point. If buying something new helped you discover Fleetwood Mac then that was a wise purchase. I only discovered The Beatles a few years ago through vinyl collecting. Now they are one of my favorite bands so I understand what you are saying. In my video, I showed records that I was already familiar with and bought them because they were on sale really cheap. In my heart, I knew they would never become a favorite. I guess that is the difference. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and have a great day.
Why can’t more women who look like this be seen at record stores?? Lol
I know alot of great women who are into vinyl. 😀
Melinda Murphy
But they aren’t typically as pretty as you!
@@electriceyeslide5959 thank you. Very sweet.
Melinda Murphy ❤️
Beefheart is certainly an acquired taste. I like Trout Mask Replica, but enjoy some of his other work a bit more (Bat Chain Puller and Safe as Milk). I've made all of these "mistakes" in my years of collecting as well.
I'm glad to be in such good company when it comes to my silly little mistakes. Lol. I have heard alot of people rave about Safe As Milk. It must be a good one. Trout Mask Replica is a cool one to have. The cover cracks me up. Thank you! Enjoy your weekend.
TMR by The Captain one of the greatest albums ever made. If you don't get it when you listen to it then you got no soul.
That's one way of looking at it.
As a newbie to vinyl, even though I was born in '82, my journey in music was cassette to CD to streaming and an emptiness laid dormant for a long time.
Wanting to start listening and collecting vinyl, I am finding your videos super satisfying and informative!
Thanks for sharing your love with us, it is really meaningful for a greenhorn like me 🙂👍
Thank you so much!!! I really appreciate it.🤗♥️
Do you actually listen to these LPs?
I sure do!
My biggest vinyl mistake was selling my original pressing of Zappa's Lumpy Gravy on the Verve label.
I think we all have regrets about a few of the records we let go. It definitely happens. Thank you and take care.
get some melt banana or fantomas
I just looked them up. I have never heard of them before. Maybe I will give them a listen sometime. Thank you for the suggestion.
"Trout Mask Replica" is perhaps THE MOST polarizing album ever. It's really hard to swallow at first, but after the fourth listening (or so) front to back you start realizing the genius that Don Van Vliet was. Once his approach to music clicks with you, you can't have enough of him. This album was a big hole in my collection, but original copies in great condition are ridiculously expensive. I owe Mr. Jack White an eternal debt of gratitude for making this record affordable after so much time. His reissue of the album is excellent.
And glad to know Van Halen is your favorite band! "1984" is the last album from them that I really liked, but anyway VH is one of the greatest rock bands ever without a doubt.
Thanks and I definitely agree about Van Halen. The third man records reissue of Trout Mask Replica is absolutely stunning!
Damn what’s your husband do for a living
Hello Melinda; I will say the CB - TMR price was good. It is not many peoples cup of tea. Unless you are a fan & enjoy avant garde music. The Doors LP looks like an import from Germany. The Bowie counterfeit was well circulated at the time. The original LP cover photo was different. Still good to have. I would have made them an offer of about 12 to 15$ tops. His 2nd & 3rd Lp's were on Mercury before Bowie signed with RCA & they reprinted the LP's with new covers. The 1st was on DERAM. Should you ever see it. Hope this helps you. Always sample first or accept the worst. I would have called on the warped record. The mistakes are not bad. You would not believe how many records sold in stores we're phony. IE: Saturday Night Fever. Take care. Tina & Pat!!!!
Thank you so much Tina and Pat. If I had known the Bowie album was a fake, I wouldn't have bought it at all. I knew it had a different cover and I may buy a legit one of those someday. You are right, I should have called the store about the Pink Floyd album. They could have made a note of it so when I come back I could do an exchange. It still plays but it should have cost much less. Captain Beefheart is definitely different. I think it is a cool addition even if I only pull it out occasionally. Have a great weekend and you always leave me with great information. I really appreciate you so much.
If Don was still alive he'd be appalled at the hollow, materialist hipsterism on display here. Believe me, you will NEVER be able to appreciate TMR, not in a thousand years.
That's what I was thinking...Don would be rolling in his grave if he knew Trout Mask got sandwiched between Donna Summer and Rhianna...
On the other hand, he must be rolling in his grave anyway ever since Jack White re-released TMR with a cotton bag, a button badge, a patch and a real trout mask in the package, so it would be sold exclusively to the kind of people Don hated!!!
@@bosco7837 Thanks Chicco, wasn't aware of the JW sacrilege. So it goes. By the way, is that one of Don's paintings above the fireplace? 😀
Many years ago I bought Herman's Hermits Greatest Hits. Got it home and it was all re-recordings. UGH. Bought another version, and it was the same re-recordings, different packaging. Double UGH. The third time I found it, it had all the original recordings. Finally had what I wanted! BTW, gorgeous house!
Thank you for the compliment! The rerecordings are so annoying and they don't put enough info on the covers so you know what you are getting. I'm so glad you finally got what you wanted. Have a great weekend!
I just bought this at a salvation army for $1.50. Haven't put it on the TT yet. What should I look (listen) for?
God you’re rich
That would be nice but no unfortunately. Lol.
I have the Van Halen record too! It seems most people don`t like "Tattoo", I think it`s a fine song...
It's grown on me but it still isn't a favorite. The guitar is great of course. Lol.
You resemble Martha Stewart
This women way hotter
Melinda: Look further on RUclips. There is a way to flatten a warped record. It takes time and patience, but it can be done. Wish you the best, and thanks for putting out all
this information. Love your site.
The store manager that I bought the record from recognized their sticker and offered to take it back which was really nice. I was planning on having it straightened out. Thank you for letting me know. I will keep it in mind in case I make that mistake again. 😃
lol what a square
nah just playin'. i'm envious of that orig copy of "trout mask" is all, mine's a boring ol' late '70s warner bros one. do you like any other beefheart recs? this isn't the easiest one to get into or in my opinion even the best one.
Hello! The only other Beefheart album I have is a promo of The Spotlight Kid. Most people recommend Safe As Milk.
I made a little mistake by not paying attention when buying this record one morning. It was a Charlie Daniel's Band(Fire on the mountain.) Record. I pulled it off the shelf to make sure it was the proper record inside. It was. When I got home, I noticed a persons name written on the label (side 1). It was autographed by Charlie Daniels. I paid $1.99 for it!🤩🥰😁
Oh wow! That's awesome!!!! 😍♥️🔥 Congrats!
What in the world would a woman of this caliber of wealth and class doing buying a twisted eccentric album like Trout mask ???? EEEW gross this is unpleasant
Funny! I bought it for a really low price so I could keep it, trade it or flip it. It is a pretty out there record.
Excellent video Melinda. Very honest as well. I bought Wings at the Speed of Sound on the day of release in 1976. When I played it at home, both sides played the same songs. Since I couldn't afford a second copy I took it back to the record shop and they exchanged it. Looking back, maybe I should have kept a hold of that one😀. Cheers...
Interesting. I have never heard of any Paul McCartney albums that were like that. I think you did the right thing so that you could enjoy the whole album. I guess mistakes like that happened back then and still do. I'm not sure if it would be worth money now or not. Take care.
Sorry Melinda, but Rihanna??? Almost as bad as Justin Bieber. A talentless "model" who warbles a few lines into a computer and technology takes care of the rest.
I agree and I'm not a huge fan. This was a video about vinyl buying mistakes.
@@MelindaMurphy I would not play one of her records I would prefer total silence instead.
Rihanna is awesome! Rated R is a great album
I'm just getting into vinyl. And wow is it an intimidating - I had no idea I would actually need to learn stuff. :) I love your channel and this video is very helpful. Thanks!
Lol. Don't be intimidated. This is a very fun hobby. You just need to look closely at a few things. If you do make a mistake, you are not alone. Thank you so much!
I hope you kept Trout Mask Replica. It's not an easy listen to start with, but if you keep going back to it then one day it will click with you. Then you will realise why it's talked about in the way it is!
I did keep it! It's definitely different and a classic. I love the album cover as well. Take care.
Not many people would have Captain Beefheart. Amazing.
Thank you!
@@MelindaMurphy my dream!
I bought a record flattener and have flattened a couple hundred records already. Warps no longer scare me. Look up Vinyl Flat... and get the heated pouch. Worth every penny.
Thank you for the suggestion. I may have to look into one someday.
Trost Mask Replica is one of the best albums ever.
In 20 years or so, you find the key to that kind of music.
Don't give up!!
Greetz from Munich, C.L.
P.S: Take a look on other Beefheart Records. 'Safe as Milk' is easy stuff.
And 'Mirror Man' blows you away (psychedelic blues rock in four long tracks).
Or the freaky Zappa/Beefheart Album 'Bongo Fury' - both, the Captain and Frankie, started a live long friendship at school in Mojave (ca.Mid-1950ties).
I am going to hang on to the album. It is really out there but in a good way. 😄 I do also have Spotlight Kid.
@@MelindaMurphy
'Spotlight Kid' is a good way into the 'cosmos' of Don Van Vliet aka Captain Beefheart.
Give him a chance, he was the freakiest musician of the entire USA. Take an ear on 'Safe As Milk'.
And give 'Trout Mask Replica' short spins. Slowly, in short steps. Song for song.
Nobody can hear the complete 'Trout
Mask Replica' album. Too much pain, dirt, sweat and tears. Listen one side, thats enough, the other sides days or weeks later.
Don't give up!
With the years (eventually many years), you can see a little light at the end of these wild and freaky roller coaster output.
And then you understand Van Vliets Message!
Best Regards, C.L.
I prefer Safe As Milk
Rookie mistakes. Always check for warps. Even if they don’t have a listening statin. Rest it on your finger tips and view the record on its side to see if it’s warped.
Two years ago,I ordered LL Cool J's Radio album on Discogs and when it arrived,it came in a plain white sleeve instead of the actual cover. I could've killed someone that day.
That must have been very frustrating! Goodness. Thanks for sharing. That has probably happened more than we know. Have a nice evening.
I try to listen to and sample any used LPs whenever I I buy from my local record store. But unfortunately I don't always have the time to do that either so I've had a few that I wish I could have returned. They would have let me but when it turns into 3 months before you can make it back in it's a little too long so I haven't even tried. I like it when a record store has turntables set up to let you sample. But I do also worry that I may be messing up a great LP by using some needle that should have been replaced 2,000 hours ago haha. Whenever I take Uber to go to the record store, I've never yet spent less than 5 hours there during the day listening and shopping. And due to the fact it cost me $30 plus to take Uber round trip, I'm definitely going to make sure I don't get home and wish I had sampled something. But it's another story if I'm riding with a friend and we go by because they're not wanting to hang out in a record store and wait for me to sample things. I'm feeling lucky there stopping by so I can run in. So sometimes you have to take the risks if you want to get something but a good record store will allow you to return or exchange problem LPs if you can get back sooner than I can usually and I'm glad they do that :-)
Brian in Fort Worth 🎶
I don't blame you for taking your time listening and shopping. 😀
I'm very thankful for record stores with good return policies as well. Thank you and take care.
Wow! Now you have both Balance and A Different Kind Of Truth. Excellent! And I am jealous :)
Van Halen is my favorite band so Balance was my Christmas present last year and ADKOT was my birthday present. I am very happy and fortunate to have them. Thank you and don't be jealous! 😊 I'm sure you have killer records!
I think our emotions run high when we find something we have been looking for or just think someone made a mistake when pricing a record. I have bought lps and then realized I should of looked closer on condition and the proper disc. I have a check list in my head I go thru before I buy a record and it is what you just covered in your video, right disc, warps, first pressing for me, and no scratches I can feel with my fingers. Your Bowie looks like record club pressing because it has the three bars at the top right corner. I wonder where it was pressed and if that might be the reason for the difference from a in house Mercury pressing. I will check and see if I can find out anything. Nice video and don't worry about the errors we all in the VC have done the same. God bless you and your family.
WOW, you are right about the Bowie being a fake. I looked on eBay and there is a bunch like yours for sell and people are selling as originals and not knowing. Discogs has yours there with all the info about it, I did not know they faked this record either. I guess you learn something new every day.
Thank you so much for your kind words. If you find out anything about the Bowie album let me know. All my research points to it being a counterfeit. I would love to be wrong though. You listed some great tips to keep in mind while vinyl hunting. I have definitely learned some things along the way. Take care and have a great weekend!
Sorry about what happened with the PF AHM LP purchase. It is one of their best IMO. Too bad it is warped. 😔
I agree. It was very disappointing. That's a hard record to find in clean condition. Thank you and take care.
Always check for warped vinyl...even brand new /sealed LPs. They can be warped too. I have tried everything to try and fix a warp. It just doesn't work. It may look flat after putting some heat on it between two glass plates or tiles but the sound quality is badly affected.
I have more trouble with new vinyl warping than I do old.🤔 Thank you and take care.
The Van Halen was not necessarily a mistake, if you would have purchased it in 2013 it is highly unlikely that it would be on the red vinyl, colored vinyl will always cost a bit more but it's also more collectible.
The Van Halen album was only issued once on red vinyl to the best of my knowledge. I paid extra because it is out of print. I should have bought it way sooner. 😣 Oh well.
Yeah, The Doors Greatest Hits is a 2 disc/LP set. I have it on CD but not on vinyl. I had something similar happen with a Barry White compilation. The case and cassette looked like they belonged together at a glance but it turned out the cassette was from a different Barry White comp.
I have that Donna Summer compilation. That's probably all I really need of hers. :) I remember Amberle posted a video a while back where she showed her copy of Prince's 1999 that was missing a record too.
I only have one counterfeit which is a Massive Attack album I showed earlier this year. I kept it because it still sounded great and the counterfeit was so convincing I only discovered it when checking the deadwax which was missing all the etchings.
As soon as you pulled out Atom Heart Mother, I thought to myself "I bet that's a pirate copy." It was heavily pirated back in the day. But nope! It's a warp. I've had that before too. I'm now careful about looking for warps but occasionally an edge warp slips past my gaze if I'm in a hurry. Those can be tricky to spot.
I think most of us have some records where we wish we could go back in time and grab an album (or a lot of albums!) at the retail price back then. The price of some albums has gotten crazy.
Really enjoyable video, Melinda! I may have to post a response.
Thanks for the reassurance that I am not alone in making these mistakes. I would love to see you make a video and educate us on what you have learned and what to watch out for. 😀
Melinda I’ve made almost everyone of those mistakes with the exception of buying records on sale.... I feel your pain for sure
Thank you for making me feel better. Lol.
Great video Melinda. I had no idea my David Bowie album was a counterfeit. You mentioned those details and I pulled my copy and confirmed it's a counterfeit. My son did some additional research and there is a couple seconds edit on the audio as well. Keep it up.
I'm so sorry to deliver the bad news. If it is a record that you have always enjoyed then I wouldn't let it bother you. I found out it was counterfeit before I listened to it so my opinion was tainted. Thanks very much for your really kind comments. I appreciate the encouragement.
I'm not an expert on Bowie collecting but I had heard (quite recently) there were a lot of counterfeits of that album.
@@Leepal1969 there are more counterfeit than genuine.
I once bought an original UK 1st edition of David Howie Hunky Dory, took it home, dropped a needle on it and then discovered that it was in fact Aladdin Sane wax in a Hunky Dory sleeve. 😱😄
At least it was still a good Bowie album. I do understand the frustration though. Lol.
Don't know the technical terms but most records from the late 60's to late 70's were made of thicker vinyl and didn't warp, also wanted to add that the covers from original pressings were much better than later reissues...
Yes, some were made from thicker vinyl but if somebody didn't care for their records they will still warp even though they are thicker.
Miles Campbell I had
... a Men At Work album that turned into pop art after half an hour in my car in obviously too hot weather.
Melinda, this was a fantastic video with a lot of great advice! Especially buying something you're not going to listen to. I've fallen into that "gotta have it" trap many times only to realize that I'm never going to listen to it. Congrats on your grail! Enjoy it! Have a great upcoming weekend!
Thank you Bill. I do think that buying records I rarely play is probably the biggest mistake I have made. I no longer bargain shop unless I am sure I will love it. Have a great weekend too Bill!
Buying used is a crap shoot. I prefer quality represses. Plenty of buying mistakes in my collection…. A few “what was I thinking”
I agree. Buying used is risky. Reissues can at times be disappointing as well (warps, bad sound quality). This is a hobby full of taking chances. Lol. Thank you and take care.
My yard sale KISS ALIVE II album came with mixed records. Record 1 was from the original KISS Alive album
That must have been frustrating. Both discs are still awesome in my book. You can still enjoy them.
Hi Melinda i have successfully removed warps from my records with two pieces of plate glass, a hair dryer and a couple of heavy books for weight. Place the record on one of the plate glass surfaces, heat the record with a hair dryer evenly not too hot until it starts to relax. Place the other plate glass surface on top and a couple of heavy books and let set overnight. About 90% or more of the warp will be removed. Hope this helps and keep on spinning.
Thank you for the wonderful tip. I'm sure that would take care of the problem. 😃 Take care.
They make dewapting machines I hv one.
I made a lot of mistakes in my record journey for both 78 shellec and vinyl, from handling, alchohol, weird lubricants, storage, objects around my records, etc. I have also made every mistake you did when buying, but now we know.
Absolutely. We live and learn!😄
Absolutely! I couldn't agree more, especially when it comes to buying records that you'll actually play. As a new collector myself, I made the mistake of purchasing too many during sales due to FOMO, and unfortunately, many of them never sparked my interest or got played. In the end, I ended up selling them at a loss.
The records I showed are still in my collection and still aren't being played. I no longer buy records just because they are on sale. I ask myself the critical question of whether I will truly listen to each record before I buy it. Thank you and take care. 🤗❤️
Another great vid! I'm heading down to Phoenix in a couple of weeks to do some vinyl hunting, and I plan on taking into account the tips you've provided, since I wouldn't be able to return them in a timely manner. So, thanks for doing that! I've been there a few times, myself. Regarding Captain Beefheart, "Trout Mask Replica" is very much an acquired taste, which I still have yet to acquire. Even years of listening to Frank Zappa (who produced the album) didn't prepare me for that album. Maybe it'll click with me, someday. Anyhoo, have a great evening!
Well thank you very much. Please don't repeat the mistakes I have made. Lol. Just attention to detail and research will keep you out of trouble. You are probably a smart shopper and wouldn't have done any of this anyway. Have fun and happy hunting!
My daughter almost made the same mistake with Queen Live Killers, we were at a record convention, she was going to pay for it, and I asked her to check both records and there was only one record instead of 2, close call. I think all of us have made mistakes, I have my share for sure, it's part of collecting, interesting topic though.
I am so glad your daughter caught that mistake. That would have been very disappointing for her. Thanks for sharing your experience. It happens way too often. Take care!
I've NEVER seen a cover with 2 pockets that wasn't a 2-disk set - you gotta check to see they're both there. And "The Doors Greatest Hits"??? Greatest hits albums are the bunk, usually only the consumer-pleasing garbage that panders to the masses! The several original albums from which the "hits" were drawn put the songs in context, buy the whole albums or nothing!
I have all but one of The Doors studio albums but enjoy listening to the Greatest Hits sometimes too.
How many of us have made The Trout Mask Mistake? Hopefully I’ll learn to love it. Grabbed mine at RSD for 35. I have learned though, when I buy a record new, I have to KNOW that I like it. Through personal experience.
I try my best to stick with that rule too. Sometimes it is hard not to do a blind buy when you see an album that so many on the VC recommend.
Mistakes - generally is that idea as a collector that you must buy complete discographies of an artist or band and secondly the addictive need to buy and buy and buy and buy knowing that you will never be able to listen to all of them and finally when you buy so you are part of the in crowd - On my channel I try to be detailed about the album which I review and that forces me to listen repeatedly so difficult to fake it - I'm not interested in bragging about how valuable this pressing is - this is for audiophiles who neglect the music because of an obsession over value
I agree that being a completist requires buying records that will never be listened to. I'm glad that you spend alot of time with your records. Thank you and have a great weekend.
Trout mask replica: “this probably won’t be my cup of tea”
I read many years ago, captain beefheart was rock star with least female fans
Haha! It's still not my cup of tea but a cool album to have. The cover art is pretty crazy.
Hi Melinda! When i saw the title of your video i thought this is going to be fun. In all my years of collecting (and fortunately or unfortunately in the pursuit of perfection) i have made some mistakes that i regret out of temptation or stupidity. My first thought of one of your purchases is could that counterfit bowie album actually be worth something?..They sure went through alot of trouble to reproduce it...especially to actually make a new pressing. That's alot of work!...That was also really nice of you to alert the record store owner of the missing record. I just recently purchased several albums each at low prices ($6-$10.each) I've done this before...i'll add it up in my head and realize i could have purchased something rare and that i really wanted for $30.-$50 dollars. Cheap is not always better. I should know that by now. Also just recently i purchased a very rare original record (jazz singer lucy reed) from 1956 in as the seller said in excellent condition. Unfortunately it was in only -VG condition. I kept it and a week or so later i saw the same record in VG+ to E condition so i immediatly pressed the bid button. Now iam locked in to buy it unless someone else places a higher bid. In the meantime i remembered a japanese pressing in mint condition for only $17. But when went to check it it was already sold! Lol! I know your not my psychiatrist but i think i need help. Ha!...anyhow that was a great video melinda and i can relate to your experiences and i know other collectors have some funny stories to tell. Thanks again Melinda..nice you've completed your van halen studio collection!..p.s. There is a vinyl flattener available for around $140. Not cheap but they can sell for thousands of dollars. It's called THE VINYL FLAT. They are on youtube...Did you go to Euclid Records/Joe Schwab in st.louis? They have an excellent site on ebay!
Hi Alan. The madness of being a vinyl collector. Lol. I have went to a record store and found things to only think later that I could have bought a Grail instead. I hope you get the jazz record in the condition you really want it to be in. You can always sell the one you were a little disappointed in. I am very happy to have all the Van Halen albums now. Not a cheap way to go because they won't reissue any of the Sammy Hagar stuff. I can't really imagine that Bowie album being worth anything. Now that I know it is a counterfeit, it just looks cheap to me. Lol. Thanks for sharing some of your vinyl regrets. We all have them. Take care and I hope your weekend is amazing!