LoRa/LoRaWAN tutorial 15: Data Rate, Chip Rate, Symbol Rate, Chip Duration and Symbol Duration

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  • Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024

Комментарии • 33

  • @weizheng1470
    @weizheng1470 2 года назад +4

    Why does BW equal to chip rate?

  • @xxrumlexx
    @xxrumlexx 5 лет назад +1

    Love your vids, incredible how much better they are at making me understand. than my own professor

  • @kerim4427
    @kerim4427 5 лет назад +13

    hi Robert, can you please explain why the chip rate corresponds to the bandwidth? in what way are these two correlated?

    • @robmcgowan4055
      @robmcgowan4055 4 года назад

      I'm a newbie, but this is the way I understand it. Each ramp (chirp) is made up of 2^SF chips, ranging between fL and fH, with each chip being 1/BW long. That is, the ramp is made up of 2^SF frequencies, from 0 to 2^SF - 1, commonly referred to as 2^n - 1, which results in n bits (or SF bits) transmitted each symbol.
      That doesn't really answer the question, but I hope it helps understand the answer which is, chip rate is correlated to bandwidth by definition. LoRa basically said, we are going to chop each Bandwidth into 1/BW segments, or chips.

    • @korgmangeek
      @korgmangeek 4 года назад

      I am not sure. I suppose because you have doubled space (bandwidth) to sweep (fit the data), so you have twice the rate.

  • @jeffa.618
    @jeffa.618 5 лет назад

    Brilliant job you've explained the concepts really well. I do suggest that viewers first read the Semtech paper on Lora modulation and then look at your videos. Kudos to you.

  • @qijia9795
    @qijia9795 3 года назад +2

    Why is the modulation bandwidth equal to the chip rate?

  • @arthurcgonzaga
    @arthurcgonzaga 4 года назад

    I'm enjoying so much your videos, thanks!

  • @mustapha7484
    @mustapha7484 2 года назад

    u saved my life, thnk u it really helps

  • @YangdeWanger
    @YangdeWanger 5 лет назад +5

    How did you calculate the transmission time for the 10 byte payload for SF7 and SF12?

    • @vgacademy2581
      @vgacademy2581 4 года назад

      its 45 and 70 symbols, calculation and transmission time not clear

  • @anatoliistepaniuk8217
    @anatoliistepaniuk8217 4 года назад +3

    1. BW = chip rate (chips/s).
    2. But the number of chips depends on SF (equals 2**SF).
    BW and SF are independent - is there a contraction in the first two statements?

    • @ElieElKhoury19
      @ElieElKhoury19 3 года назад +1

      Exactly! I'm also confused about this... Doesn't make any sense

  • @spiworkshop9416
    @spiworkshop9416 2 года назад

    Great tutorial thanks ,can you help me to get a view on this matter ,I am using SX1278 module along with ESP32 I would like to know about the Sync Word of the LORA Modules .

  • @JeremyCook
    @JeremyCook 5 лет назад

    So looking at this, the chip rate is the data transmissions per second, which can be expressed in hertz. The signal modulates frequency as well, which is also in hertz? Seems there are two different "hertz" values going on here, though I could be wrong.

  • @anatoliistepaniuk8217
    @anatoliistepaniuk8217 3 года назад

    Do I understand this correctly, that it takes some time to notice the change in frequency. So if we want to encode twice as many chips into the symbol, we need to multiply time of the symbol by 2? (because receiver would not be able to decode the information if we change frequency too fast?)

  • @louielaquio8388
    @louielaquio8388 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks very informative!

  • @XaropeMaua
    @XaropeMaua 5 лет назад

    Hello, Robert.
    First of all, congratulations for the extraordinary job. It's much more than just an introduction for beginners. It's a complete manual!
    Could you explain how to calculate the Time on Air for the transmissions?
    Thanks in advance.

    • @Mobilefish
      @Mobilefish  5 лет назад

      I have explained it in tutorial 17, see ruclips.net/video/C_Rh5GSENA4/видео.html

  • @billordonezegoavil7013
    @billordonezegoavil7013 5 лет назад +1

    thank you, it's very helpful.

  • @vgacademy2581
    @vgacademy2581 4 года назад

    32 byte packet at SF12 gives 45 symbols, how they are calculated? thanks in advance

  • @CmZam17
    @CmZam17 5 лет назад

    Thank you, what about if I use this formula (Rb (bits/sec) = SF x (BW / 2^SF) x (4(4+CR)) to find the throughput?

  • @carloscobian3989
    @carloscobian3989 5 лет назад

    thanks for this tutorials, very helpful.
    in 5:00 you mention an increment of distance related with the ToA increment, what does that distance mean?

  • @ahmedwahdan672
    @ahmedwahdan672 4 года назад

    Hello,
    I use SF = 7, BW = 125Khz and sending 128 byte.
    The transmitter takes around 2230 ms from setting the Tx mode till the Tx done, is this right? How to decrease this time?

  • @junli3975
    @junli3975 2 года назад

    how do you calculate the trasmission time with 10 bytes payload.

  • @CalMSinclair
    @CalMSinclair 3 года назад

    Haha I can't believe I understood that. Nice.

  • @kampkrieger
    @kampkrieger 3 года назад

    chips per second? that makes no sense, a chip is a value of a symbol (see chap 13), so is it symbols per second?? and i dont understand how the bandwidth of the signal 125kHz can have linear affect on the symbol rate

  • @BinhVanCntt
    @BinhVanCntt 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much

  • @anatoliistepaniuk8217
    @anatoliistepaniuk8217 4 года назад

    How long does it take for one symbol to be transmitted?

    • @Mobilefish
      @Mobilefish  4 года назад

      Sorry I do not know. I have found this, but this is beyond my skillset: repository.kaust.edu.sa/bitstream/handle/10754/655888/08723130.pdf

  • @coolwinder
    @coolwinder 5 лет назад +1

    I found this video to be unclear. Great video btw, thank you very much!

  • @NotMarkKnopfler
    @NotMarkKnopfler 5 лет назад

    It's chirp, not chip. But great video anyway. Thank you.

    • @K9-33
      @K9-33 5 лет назад +5

      The video is correct. Chirps are frequency ramps (up or down) which define symbols. A symbol holds 2^SF chips which defines the bandwidth.