Christopher Ward Twelve Review: I Wouldn’t Buy It

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @thezionsoho
    @thezionsoho Год назад +120

    I prefer the logo

    • @jlarsson1978
      @jlarsson1978 Год назад +29

      Much better than the horrible CHRISTOPHER WARD text in weird places on the dial.

    • @frzmtl3849
      @frzmtl3849 Год назад +9

      Agreed! They tried everything else….

    • @Poise716
      @Poise716 Год назад +8

      Lmao right!! I hated every single Christopher award watch because those weirdos put the guys full name on the FACE of the watch. So so so so weird. It makes me think everybody who wore those watches were in a cult. I absolutely love the new logo and I am ordering a pro 300. Can’t wait :)

    • @Angry_Gnome
      @Angry_Gnome Год назад +6

      Agreed…they finally got it right with the new logo

    • @kimchiwasabee
      @kimchiwasabee Год назад +6

      Logo all the wayy!!
      Connaisseurs dont need no names on dials. This piece is soo close to Czapek style,it's almost perfect!!

  • @Everbrooks
    @Everbrooks Год назад +58

    Personally, I really like that they have the logo on the dial instead of the name 'Christopher Ward'. I am actually planning on purchasing this piece in white and if the watch had the name on the dial and not the logo, I would have never wanted it.

    • @gssf.gr29
      @gssf.gr29 10 месяцев назад +7

      Totally agree. Everybody is entitled to their opinion of course, but in my view it's complete nonsense to say that there's more symmetry when using a name rather than a logo. It might work for a short name like Seiko or Oris or whatever, but with a long brand name like Christopher Ward doesn't work that way. The logo is clearly far more symmetrical. I also like the light play, the way it disappears and reappears depending which angle you hold it at.
      I'm no watch connoisseur, but I think this is excellent value for money for a watch of this quality, especially given that you can pay many thousands more for a watch that doesn't really offer anything more. I actually like the C60 Atoll and can't afford both so I'll probably go for the latter, but I would be happy to wear this.

    • @GFCoyleWVU
      @GFCoyleWVU 21 день назад

      Looking into this watch in the Arctic White. Wondered if you did ultimately get it and what your thoughts are.

  • @kamilgolis6611
    @kamilgolis6611 Год назад +62

    Your review is very balanced and detailed, I like that. On the other hand, comparing a ca 1k pounds watch to the 20x more expensive Czapek in terms of finishing made no sense to me. I own the grey CW and find it a great watch. In this price range, I don't think you can't find anything on par with the Twelve and also the Aikon (that I'm wearing today) is probably not better finished although it's more expensive.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +4

      Fair, I don’t think I directly compared the finishing, more the design since clearly there’s some inspiration. Haven’t spent enough time with an antartique in hand to truly compare finishing. Plus watch finishing, to my non expert eye, tends to look very minimally different when you start going to those levels. It’s usually just more consistent maybe more a anglage, but just depends.

    • @mmoskowitz9
      @mmoskowitz9 Год назад +40

      ​​@@theknightswatch the Czapek is designed by the same man as the 12.

    • @skylineuk1485
      @skylineuk1485 Год назад +2

      @@mmoskowitz9I think this comment deserves more likes!

    • @johnward9486
      @johnward9486 11 месяцев назад +1

      Missed your calling, should have been an art critic.

    • @David-lt5vg
      @David-lt5vg 11 месяцев назад

      Looking at both the twelve and the aikon , which one would you recomend

  • @Juanjo191
    @Juanjo191 Год назад +17

    I really liked this watch. The indices remind me of the Omega aqua terra. I think there is no such thing as the perfect watch, but overall seems that this watch has really nice quality and it’s something new for the brand, who keeps getting out of their comfort zone 👏🏼

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +3

      Agreed it’s nice to see Christopher Ward doing more stuff and not just sticking to the basics. Like you said, no perfect watch but hopefully they iterate and make the watch even “better”

  • @lordcharfield4529
    @lordcharfield4529 11 месяцев назад +5

    It’s a great logo. English and Swiss flags side by side 🇨🇭 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 - Maybe it doesn’t resonate with some USA citizens?

    • @lordcharfield4529
      @lordcharfield4529 Месяц назад +1

      Because of their wilful ignorance of anything outside of the USA 🤬

  • @BoBurson
    @BoBurson 9 месяцев назад +3

    Any plans to review the 36mm version? Y thanks for videos

  • @dhueshs4
    @dhueshs4 Год назад +3

    I agree with your take that the bezel should be bigger. I own the light blue stainless steel version and love everything about it. Have to disagree on your take for comfort wear. I was surprised how comfortable the clasp was compared to some of my higher end watches. Great review though.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Glad that your bracelet fits comfortably! I just haven’t found a deployant clasp that’s fit me well.

  • @thomasfabri4339
    @thomasfabri4339 Год назад +2

    Thank You for your excellent presentation of this watch. I do have to say that I’m really in for integrated-bracelet-watches and when I first saw the XII I immediately ordered one (the white dial)
    I‘ve got almost the same issues:
    1. the dial is too big
    2. the bezel is unfortunately too small.
    3. the indices and the hands doesn’t fit to the dial and the rest of the watch.
    But I‘ve got no problem with the butterfly-clasp. Mine is not sharp and wears really comfortable.
    I’m still struggling to keep the watch or let it go …

  • @ugabrew
    @ugabrew Год назад +2

    Great review and I agree with most of your points, but I really like the clean and simple logo that they used here vs. additional text to spell out the name. I think they nailed the logo on this one.

  • @chrisward2954
    @chrisward2954 Год назад +2

    I love CW watches and have a retro Malvern Limited Edition which is a beautiful dress watch! I went the whole hog and visited Maidenhead to see the whole range. You also get a nice cup of tea! CW watches are going places! Hang on and enjoy the ride...

  • @engineering_guy
    @engineering_guy Год назад +15

    I always come here when others are hyping up a watch. The watchfinder guy titled the video "The best watch ever" what professionalism!
    Thankyou for your detailed look and always reasoned conclusions even though they are personal. You deserve more subs.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +5

      Thanks man I appreciate it. I try my best not to be swayed by hype. To be fair hype gets clicks though so maybe watch finder is doing it right 😂 either way I’ll occupy my little corner over here.

    • @Juanjo191
      @Juanjo191 Год назад +1

      @@theknightswatch keep the good work like so far and that corner is gonna turn into a whole block soon 😉

    • @tiffer67
      @tiffer67 Год назад +2

      I think people need to remember, this is a $1200 watch. For this price bracket this is an exceptional watch. The design, the bracelet & variety of dials are all very good. The finishing & attention to detail is superb for this price. It’s not meant to be superior to a Grand Seiko & that’s why it’s a fraction of the price. CW are taking steps up the ladder in quality & this is worthy of praise. From being a start up company less than 2 decades ago to where they are now, in my opinion is ahead of the curve. This company was a couple of guys who’d made their millions, got bored & thought let’s have a go at making watches. I have to say I admire them hugely.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      @@tiffer67 you make good points. I do think a lot of people compare it to the tissot prx which finishing wise, doesn’t fall to far short of this watch for about half the price. Doesn’t take away the fact that he’s it’s well finished, nicely executed, but as with most watches, there are some flaws and always some steps that can be done to improve

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      @@Juanjo191 haha thank you. We’ll see!

  • @matthewdavis8199
    @matthewdavis8199 Год назад +4

    Hey Xavier. As always I appreciate you sharing. I ended up wearing mine with an extra half link to avoid the butterfly clasp from bothering my wrist. Ironically, one of CW's designer's father is credited with having invented the butterfly clasp! I do have to admit that I would despise the bracelet though with one of their "dive" style clasps.
    Although I never noticed the sporadic brushing on the top of the indices, as a whole they do not offend me, nor does the applied logo much. Perhaps my glacier blue dial supplies a better backdrop for those elements? Take care my friend!

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      I’m glad you’re still enjoying yours Matthew. (I have a slight anger toward that man’s father haha) ya the brushing ain’t something I noticed either but I do wonder if it would make more of an “impact” if it was brushed correctly. I’ll have to try wearing it a slight bit loser just to see how it feels on my wrist. I do think it’ll be a very comfortable combo on the rubber! Thanks as always for watching

  • @edipisreks5535
    @edipisreks5535 Год назад +8

    I wonder if the titanium version would help alleviate some of the comfort issue: lighter weight and all. Great review as always.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +5

      Thanks! And I’m assuming unless the clasp is not as sharp, probably no. We’ll see. I’ll have the titanium in end of the month ish

    • @jeffreygoss8109
      @jeffreygoss8109 Год назад +4

      Gotta love this guy. Very very honest.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +3

      @@jeffreygoss8109 try my best!

    • @watchenthusiastlondon
      @watchenthusiastlondon Год назад

      @@theknightswatch bravo.

    • @kimchiwasabee
      @kimchiwasabee Год назад +1

      May be. But this grade2 titanium is easily scratched.
      For me,steel it will be.

  • @The_Waraba
    @The_Waraba Год назад +2

    Great review! You’ve put into words a lot of the things I was feeling about the watch when looking at it. It doesn’t show enough why it’s “The Twelve” they a chance to make the bezel more prominent and a distinctive characteristic of the watch but dialed it down. It still is a phenomenal watch for the price, and I wish the very best to CW for what they represent in the watch industry.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Absolutely. Who knows if they’ll iterate or just stick to their guns and much won’t change. Either way, still some great stuff coming from the brand

    • @gssf.gr29
      @gssf.gr29 10 месяцев назад

      Not for me. I think it looks classy without being overdesigned. To these eyes they've got it just right, especially considering the price.

  • @cinnabuns8266
    @cinnabuns8266 Год назад +15

    CW just can’t win with their logo. People hated the text! I think their new “twin flag” logo is the best iteration.
    Appreciate your perspective on the bezel. I’m cool with the size but I wouldn’t have minded if they made it larger.
    Personally can’t wait to get this at 36mm. My most anticipated watch purchase yet.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      I’ve liked the logo on other pieces but not 100% sold here. Just personal preference. I look forward to seeing the 36!

    • @Viper4ever05
      @Viper4ever05 10 месяцев назад

      The name is too damn long so its difficult to implement the name and the logo

  • @NormanClark-y2k
    @NormanClark-y2k 29 дней назад

    I love your presentation cover all the bases all the details I never would have thought off. MY go to reviewer for great watches.Keep up the excellent work!

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  7 дней назад

      Appreciate ya! And sorry for the late reply, still catching up on things. Always consider making shorter videos but don’t know if it’s possible for me 😂

  • @jaer.6540
    @jaer.6540 Год назад +1

    I feel like the macro shot for indices is a bit overkill. Out eyes can only see so much, and I guess I don't find the brushing on those indices as an issue.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      I agree with ya. To me though what separates a watch you spend a decent amount of money on is the execution of detail. That’s why(in theory) it’s 1200 and not 600.

  • @nelsoncaraig3120
    @nelsoncaraig3120 3 месяца назад +2

    Bro how about the accuracy of the watch the sellita, mine is sellita sw 200 on my Steinhart Ocean 39 Double is almost chronometer, in a Day is +3 or +5 seconds

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  7 дней назад

      Late reply but unfortunately I’ve stopped focusing on accuracy a few years ago. Most things keep within 10 seconds a day and that’s more than enough especially with how much I swap watches anyway. If accuracy is an issue you can always go for one of the cosc rated ones

  • @kimchiwasabee
    @kimchiwasabee Год назад +3

    I,too,wouldn't buy one.
    I'd buy two,at least!!

  • @scott7841
    @scott7841 Год назад +8

    Great video and detailed analysis. I agree that integrated bracelets are not my favorite type of design either. On top of that, I also don't like butterfly clasps. That said, the dial itself is very well done.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      Appreciate it and agreed lots of good but not perfect. Would like to see an angular watch for the brand that maybe isn’t integrated. Not all things have to be integrated!

  • @TattedTroyGuy
    @TattedTroyGuy Год назад +1

    There are so many things so right about this watch but so many important things so wrong. As you point out, the dial is too big and disproportionate to the size of the case and bezel whereas the Tissot PRX has better proportions on case vs bezel vs dial. CW proclaims itself as a better quality option, but does not offer a COSC movement as an option across all of the dial color options. The indices are noticeably not well finished. The most frustrating thing is that their arguably nicest soft white dial with gold indices is not available with their larger watch and again no COSC movement. Decent watch, yes, but they missed the mark.

    • @gssf.gr29
      @gssf.gr29 10 месяцев назад

      Each to their own of course, but I think they have it just right. I think it looks understated rather than underwhelming, and that gives it a classy look without being too shouty. I get the point about the PRX, but the 12-sided bezel breaks up the proportions on the CW and adds that touch of class and it really works for me. My only problem on my budget is that I'm not sure if I would pay that much more for the CW over the PRX.

  • @SunsetSheen
    @SunsetSheen Год назад +3

    Best review of this watch thus far.
    How would you say that this stacks up against the ML Aikon? In terms of overall finishing, fit, and quality which is better in your opinion?

    • @isaacbernal7302
      @isaacbernal7302 Год назад +1

      Interested in this too. While I was trying my PRX I gave the quartz Aikon a try and could definitely feel a step up in everything. I went for the PRX but to this day a small part of me regrets not splurging a little more for the Aikon. I couldn’t justify spending that much on quartz

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      Hard to say between the two and to be fair the Aiken is a little more expensive. I will say I liked the Aikon more. The design is more “traditional, it fit fairly well, dial felt more premium, but it was thicker. The ward feels slicker and more premium purely from a case construction standpoint. They are built to a similar standard so it’ll really be what aesthetically you like

  • @MrKanjidude
    @MrKanjidude Год назад +2

    I do not like to be negative, but I do think that watch is a design fail. It just looks like a strange and messy PRX homage. I also think it wears too big on your wrist.

  • @EricBishard
    @EricBishard 8 месяцев назад

    This dial color is by far the most beautiful of all of them. Christopher Ward is killing it. I'm about to get the C63 GMT and I'm glad you removed me of import tax.

  • @yousufahmed7457
    @yousufahmed7457 8 месяцев назад

    Veey detailed video. As a piece I’m trying to get hold of, this was very much appreciated. The logo I’m perfectly fine with, however the bezel is a big let down. The dial is too big and it engulfs the entire watch. And as pointed out, too much detail went into the bezel for that to be the “case”

  • @latinballa88
    @latinballa88 9 месяцев назад

    100% agree with the bezel being too small. Couldn’t quite put my finger on it, but that’s it. Likely why I prefer the way the 36 looks

  • @WilliamBoyd-bo2fv
    @WilliamBoyd-bo2fv Год назад +4

    Great and informative review - one of the best I have seen on this watch. And I agree with your final thoughts on it. And on a side note - is there any way to contact you and converse off your site here? Thanks.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Thank you, too kind! I appreciate you watching. And sure can email me at theknightswatchca2018@gmail.com. Need to start including that in the description 😂

  • @jasonriccoboni5931
    @jasonriccoboni5931 Год назад +1

    You don’t make any mention of the ML Aikon the you reviewed about a year ago. The Aikon is usually referred to as the quintessential Royal Oak alternative, and I believe it is the only other “Affordable” integrated sports watch on the luxury side. Do you prefer “The Twelve” or the Aikon” overall?

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      Odd thought I replied to this. Sorry for the late response. Honestly the aikon slipped my mind at the time! I prefer the 12 between the two mainly for price and the finish isn’t too different. I like the texture of the aikon more and the bezel is more prominent which I like but the 12 wears much better

    • @fastdays_1
      @fastdays_1 Год назад +1

      The Aikon looks awful with that terrible bezel which reminds me of the worst 90s design. Go for this one without hesitation.

    • @alexfrost8645
      @alexfrost8645 3 месяца назад

      Just looked at the Aiken, not seen it before, I think comparing the Simon to the AP ROAK is a push the case design is very simple and round, no jutting industrial lines, or even a crown guard, yes it has an integrated bracelet, but that it, and the bezel as another commenter states is god awful. I’m not a massive fan of the 12, but out of the two the 12 is a far superior watch overall.

  • @billmurphy893
    @billmurphy893 10 месяцев назад +1

    Re Logo: If you have to work that hard at explaining something maybe you got it wrong. The logo is simple and sends a strong message without text. It's fine.

  • @jeffmalm9708
    @jeffmalm9708 Год назад +2

    The hands match the markers.

  • @wesward1130
    @wesward1130 Год назад +2

    I just got Blue in Titanium, my 4th CW, simply is stunning.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Happy to hear it! They did a good job on that blue tone

  • @fabfour289
    @fabfour289 Год назад

    Yep, i do think the twelve's brushed bezel is a lil too thin for my taste, as opposed to my g shock metal square bezel for my liking.

  • @ultramagnus7842
    @ultramagnus7842 11 месяцев назад

    I like all the things you said about this watch, the good and the bad. I agree that the brushing on the markers could have been done better and perhaps that they should have gone with rectangular shaped markers rather than triangular because as you said it doesn't blend very well with other elements on the watch. It might look better with the brand name on the dial too. And lastly the bezel. Spot on that the watch could benefit more with a larger more pronounced bezel. I was really excited when this model first launched but to be honest I was never really completely on board with the overall looks of it. Perhaps I need to see it in the metal to fully appreciate all that is good on the watch. As it stands, I will probably not buy it after hearing some of the things you said about it. It's an honest review, and I really appreciate that you shared your thoughts on everything about the watch.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  11 месяцев назад

      Thank you! And glad I’m not alone in my craziness. Absolutely a good watch and if they iterate correctly it could be great. Still fantastic for some but just not quite there for my taste. Appreciate you watching 🙏🏻

  • @arcadevampire
    @arcadevampire Год назад +5

    So many positives to this watch (on paper) but lacking soul/identity.

    • @jlarsson1978
      @jlarsson1978 Год назад +2

      That's the problem with the entire CW brand.

    • @michaelfierman3256
      @michaelfierman3256 Год назад +1

      Yes ! Totally agree. They seem to put a bunch of ideas and then tick off the boxes. ( except for the Bel Canto)

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      Good point. And that’s the main reason I ordered it. Seemed great and had higher hopes in a sense.

  • @brettrun8575
    @brettrun8575 11 месяцев назад +1

    This guy might be the only person on the planet that preferred the name on the dial instead of the logo.

  • @vipnetworker
    @vipnetworker 6 месяцев назад +1

    What is the cost to service a CW?
    What is the interval?
    Where can you get it done?

    • @DW-py4up
      @DW-py4up 2 месяца назад +1

      It has an off the shelf movement so it can be serviced by any experienced watchmaker for a relatively cheap price. Service it when it stops running accurately

    • @vipnetworker
      @vipnetworker 2 месяца назад

      @@DW-py4up Thanks 👍
      What should that cost?
      I’ve never serviced an automatic watch. What would be your guess 5 years? 10 years?

    • @DW-py4up
      @DW-py4up 2 месяца назад

      @@vipnetworker I can’t give you specific price as I don’t know what country you’re in but you can easily google “Sellita SW200-1 service cost” and it should be easy enough to find. Some people say it’s best to service your watch every five years, some say ten years, and some say service it when it stops working. I tend to service mine every 5-7 years. However I have a few watches so they don’t get much wrist time as I’m always wearing a different watch

  • @gcardinal
    @gcardinal Год назад

    I was trying to buy this watch about 5 or 6 times and every time I just was not able to pull the trigger on it. Dial texture is to strong, indices kinda not right and the bezel is just not right. This watch lacks a clear identity; it aspires to embody multiple qualities but ultimately falls short in delivering any of them convincingly. Somehow this watch reminded me of a aliexpress-homage that was done back in the day... everything is just a bit off.

  • @dannyg6592
    @dannyg6592 Год назад +4

    An excellent, unbiased review. I agree with you 100%. This one appears to be all dial on your wrist, and as such, it wears quite large. Needs more bezel, less dial. CW can't decide on their branding or logos, but at least this one doesn't have the hideous trident counterbalanced second hand. I'd get a PRX and save the $. Cheers!

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Thank you and ya for a lot of people, the prx is probably gonna be the way to go. Indices and dial for the most part feels more premium here but will that be worth enough?

    • @Hogan-sw1py
      @Hogan-sw1py 7 месяцев назад

      Trident hand looks awesome on the dive watches and that's where it belongs imo. Luxury style watches hell no!

  • @gregorysmith5883
    @gregorysmith5883 11 месяцев назад

    I love the logo but wish they had Christopher wars above ‘automatic ‘ or below the logo. Also would prefer the logo on the deploying clasp. Agree on the indices. Don’t love the triangles

    • @lordcharfield4529
      @lordcharfield4529 Месяц назад

      Same, but they do have the logo on the clasp for the Trident series

  • @mm-dz2pm
    @mm-dz2pm 3 месяца назад

    Does The twelve 40 mm have the same issue of looking too big on a small wrist like with the PRX 40 mm?

  • @chif123
    @chif123 3 месяца назад

    Prefer the logo over the txt. I think the design language with the txt makes it very appealing... my two cents.

  • @gabrielscheer255
    @gabrielscheer255 Год назад +3

    Your honest opinion is very much appreciated. Unbiased no matter the price point. Looking forward to your continued sublime reviews.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      Thank you for the kind words. Hope my reviews continue being something you can appreciate!

  • @geewoods6590
    @geewoods6590 Год назад

    Yeah you are wrong with the logo, the full "Christopher Ward" logo is too overbearing, look at some of the C60 models, just doesnt look right and with the complex dial being the focal point is it better to not cover that beautiful pattern.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Glad there are people who prefer this one! I’m sure by making the text less intense they could’ve integrated the name in some where, but can’t please everyone!

  • @markc.5750
    @markc.5750 Год назад +2

    I prefer the logo.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Glad people do! Probably wouldn’t be sold out at the moment if everyone felt the exact same way as I did on the design

  • @watchingbrief7072
    @watchingbrief7072 Год назад

    CW quality is off the chart and their business model is not to fleece the customer like other brands, via fewer multiples. Watchmakers of note have commented on how well made they are. All cases are hand polished and not by robots.

  • @liantuanghawlhang
    @liantuanghawlhang Год назад

    I always liked this watch and I plan on buying it. You obviously don't so I'm curious to know what you would buy at this price range.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      It’s a great watch if it appeals to you and to be honest if you like the integrated bracelet look, unless you like the tissot prx, there isn’t much else. I would consider the c63 gmt from Chris ward, Astor and banks fortitude light, maybe tuseno as a slightly dressy dive watch option

  • @jaimereusche3770
    @jaimereusche3770 9 месяцев назад

    Thorough review. The Twelve is a beautiful Watch. You spend a lot if time 'trying' to criticize the indices which to me doesn't make much sense. They are nice enough. Surprising that you don't even mention a much more important negative aspect: the limited power reserve of 38 hrs! which at this price point is a limitation.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  9 месяцев назад

      Just personal aesthetic preference. Bothered me a lot but may not bother some others. The power reserves of my watches don’t really bother me especially not on an automatic. I’m if putting the watch down for more than 38hrs, I’m wearing something else.

  • @denniskai2331
    @denniskai2331 Год назад +3

    Thanks for the review .... my thoughts (just based on the youtube videos) .... I agree that the case and bracelet design is stellar. I agree that the dial is the part that looks unfinished. CW - if you're "listening". A+ for effort; for Homework - the Dial should be a little more organic - the patterning on the dial is a little too repetitive and artificial. The indices are good - but also look a little aggressive - it might have looked better with lume plots / indices that mirrored the case shape. So - go with a more organic texture for the dial, keep and replace the indices. As far as materials - it would probably add to cost - but going with Titanium 5 would have been nice as well. Amazing job overall. I'll wait for the next iteration :)

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Agreed grade 5 would be nice. And absolutely it’s a case of great first try but not quite there yet

  • @edblair5253
    @edblair5253 6 месяцев назад

    The finishing on the hands is the same. You can not tell because of the angles and lack of width

  • @stevehenrytagami4709
    @stevehenrytagami4709 Год назад

    i like the case and bracelet but there is something about the dial that is putting me off . Perhaps too much going on .

  • @ogramail
    @ogramail Год назад +6

    I totally agree with you. Despite I am a huge fan of CW (I love my Bel Canto!), this one will be a pass for me (at this price point, the SW200-1 is too cheap on the steel version which makes you compelled to choose the titanium grade 2 versions if you want the sw300 COSC...but those are far more expensive and you have to be fan of the fumé dials. Those are nice but make it "too much" with the patterned dial)... Well, the perfect watch does not exist

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      Ya fair! I own a bel canto too, we’ll see if it stick around, but this watch I think still needs to go through some “growing pains before it convinces me

  • @jakeviveros9439
    @jakeviveros9439 8 месяцев назад

    I believe the reason you have an issue with the logo on the dial is because of the color.

  • @Gonzo1968
    @Gonzo1968 3 месяца назад

    This dude is high! This watch shits on watches in this price point! You would be hard pressed finding a nicer piece at this price point! Will be picking this up. Well done CW!

  • @TZOID08
    @TZOID08 9 месяцев назад

    The import fees to the USA suck.... Adds around 15% to the cost of the watch

  • @affegorilla1299
    @affegorilla1299 Год назад

    Dude this Czapek costs 25.000$ of course the CW can not compete! This comparisen makes no sense to me though.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      I get that, but what I’m trying to say is if they can execute to this level, they can clearly just tweak the design, keep the same level of finish, and it would be much better off.

  • @lancesmith9775
    @lancesmith9775 6 месяцев назад

    I prefer the logo. It only cost $ 1300, so it's not gonna be AP level. For the price, I think it's marvelous

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  5 месяцев назад

      Fair, can’t please everybody, they just need enough people to like it which I think undoubtedly they do

  • @Poise716
    @Poise716 Год назад

    I think you are the only person that thinks they should’ve used a normal clasp. It would look terrible imo

  • @MrBacchus18
    @MrBacchus18 Год назад +1

    Lol Christopher Ward can’t win with the logo. I think they should have stuck with C. Ward found on older models.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      I wonder if they’ll ever stick to a singular logo, 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Psysso
      @Psysso Год назад

      They should just rebrand the company at this rate.

  • @jpdemer5
    @jpdemer5 Год назад

    If they had a quartz option, for the price of a PRX auto, they'd double their sales. I know I'd buy it in a heartbeat. (I do like the cachet of a mechanical movement, but a gussied-up SW or ETA caliber is nothing to get excited about - you're not missing much if you get a plain caseback.)
    The finish on the applied indices is a deliberate choice, giving a desired level of reflectance. Grand Seiko achieves the same effect with super-fine machining (see the SBGE295), but I'm sure CW's coarse brushing is a far less costly option.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      I’m sure the indices are done that way on purpose I just mean they aren’t executed well. And a quartz option would be interesting. Potentially they’d rather just not take away room from the mechanicals they want to sell more off. It does give the brand some prestige especially since they don’t do any quartz at the moment I can think off. I could see the appeal for sure though!

  • @ProperCh
    @ProperCh Год назад

    Honestly I think its a good watch for the price but I just dont like the Royal Oak style.

  • @davidkisielewski605
    @davidkisielewski605 9 месяцев назад

    Dude, this was the first and last of your videos. Comparing a costly watch with a cheap-ish watch. It is the best watch at that price.

  • @JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm
    @JohnBuckmaster-sw3wm Год назад +1

    I like it however, it seems like a bandwagon watch. I have the PRX automatic, and at least that was an existing design from Tissot, even though they were capitalizing on the fitted bracelet, sports watch craze…. I like Christopher Ward as a brand, but there are other models that I want before I would think about choosing this one.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      It’s fair. I’m curious if it was the idea of well we need to make an integrated sports watch rather than we want to. At the end of the day companies do need to make profits and models that will sell. Can’t all be altruistic and make it for the art of it

  • @jeffwaters5633
    @jeffwaters5633 Год назад +2

    It's nice to see a face that's fresh and unique. There's only so many things a company can do that's different inside a circle with two pointy things but CW manages to pull it off yet again.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Very true it’s always nice to see something different. Different isn’t always good though 😂 but they are 90% there

  • @SunbriteInstall
    @SunbriteInstall 7 месяцев назад

    That was 32 minutes I wish I could get back. That watch is great value for the cost. I plan on purchasing a second one.

    • @DW-py4up
      @DW-py4up 2 месяца назад

      If you thought it was great value and planned on buying it why did you spend 30 mins watching a review ? Did you a RUclips review to validate your purchase?

  • @johnnyhock
    @johnnyhock 11 месяцев назад +1

    I much prefer the twin flag logo only - rather than the “Christopher Ward” text

  • @dusanlazic5619
    @dusanlazic5619 Год назад

    Hi 👋 Which one is better, the 12 or Aikon?

    • @tomasz5274
      @tomasz5274 5 месяцев назад +1

      The one you like more.

  • @mrgr
    @mrgr Год назад

    This watch needed to be in the price range of prx automatic, average movement and better finishing so it balances. Overpriced for what it is. Love the logo and design.

  • @luftgonzo1300
    @luftgonzo1300 Год назад

    Hi. Which color would you choose for yourself out of the four possible ones?

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      I haven’t seen them all in person unfortunately but likely between this grey and the dark blue.

    • @luftgonzo1300
      @luftgonzo1300 Год назад

      @@theknightswatch Thanks for your reply. I'm going to buy gray or light blue ones.

  • @Matthew-wn8oq
    @Matthew-wn8oq 10 месяцев назад

    "You wouldn't buy it?" Huh? Isn't that exactly what you did?

  • @thebogiebogie
    @thebogiebogie Год назад +1

    I like the fact that you keep your reviews objective. Most channels just go with the hype and make several people purchase watches they would regret.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Appreciate it! Try to just give my take regardless of what I have in hand

  • @billmurphy893
    @billmurphy893 10 месяцев назад

    Being deliberately negative to attract clicks is not a good look but it is your choice thank you for trying anyway.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  10 месяцев назад

      Not deliberately negative. I genuinely wouldn’t buy the watch and think it’s a pass in its current state. Some will like some won’t. Well finished but missing something

  • @Reclaimtherainbow_Gen9
    @Reclaimtherainbow_Gen9 Год назад

    The dial design gives me a headache lol. The Aqua Terra like indices just don’t look like they go with this style watch. I REALLY don’t like this watch😂. Great review though!

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Thanks and funny I never put the aqua terra design together. It’s my least favorite omega so I forgot about it sometimes 😂

  • @Tyrone2714
    @Tyrone2714 Год назад

    I just wish the dial was black instead of grey and I'd probably get it

  • @wongjefx980
    @wongjefx980 Год назад

    This watch is all over YT, being reviewed. It's OK, but is constantly compared as an upgraded Tissot PRX at almost double the price.... I don't know, unless you really like it, if it is worth it. Personally I'd take a Formex E39 over this.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Having owned the formex I can see the draw. The screws/hydraulic case system situation on the formex detracts me from truly wanting to own a piece. And to be fair the formex is more expensive!

  • @DaemonViews
    @DaemonViews 11 месяцев назад

    Funny, when they had the name on their previous models, a lot of people were asking for the logo only xd
    I'm in logo camp.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  11 месяцев назад

      Can’t please everyone! Interesting to see the rare thing of a brand changing its logo so many times but also I guess it’s hard to say you get it perfect the first time and it can grow with the brand properly 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @thewholecut
    @thewholecut Год назад +5

    I feel bad for all the other brands because the PRX is a monster and such a great value proposition.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      It’s fair. Might of large production and being part of a large group. Still don’t think the prx is perfect. Don’t like the way the 40 wears but those with bigger wrists it probably works well for

    • @duffydon1741
      @duffydon1741 Год назад

      @@theknightswatch your thoughts, this or the prx?

    • @piotrszmidel
      @piotrszmidel Год назад

      ​@@duffydon1741 Its double the price

    • @MH5tube
      @MH5tube Год назад

      @@theknightswatch There's supposed to be a 35mm Powermatic coming (blue/green/black dial) in the next month or two. Should be good for wrists too small for the 40mm

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      @@MH5tube excited to see that one forsure. I’ll order one or two to compare and see if it’s worth it(don’t doubt it will be)

  • @robocopvn
    @robocopvn 2 месяца назад

    plz review the 36 :"

  • @vipnetworker
    @vipnetworker 6 месяцев назад

    The logo looks FAR better than their HUGE long name taking up so much space.
    “CW” would be fine.
    “Ward” would be fine.
    Christopher Ward is too long.

  • @J0hny3
    @J0hny3 Год назад

    What does it make this so much more expensive than the PRX? Is it only the obvious reason of micro production compared to Tissot or something else?

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      Cost of material is probably a little higher. I’m assuming movement is more expensive for ward. Obvious a little more detail going into it like the bezel. The bracelet finishing is a little more complicated. Finishing is a hard one because if you take a 1000 and 10000 dollar watch both finished really well. Sometimes it’s hard to tell with the naked eye or if you don’t know what you’re looking for. And even then, to some it’s not worth it. I would also say it’s likely this dial is more expensive to make

    • @J0hny3
      @J0hny3 Год назад

      @@theknightswatch Thx for the detailed response, make sense!

    • @dappolajon7008
      @dappolajon7008 8 месяцев назад

      @@theknightswatchyou should have just said you dont know and not assume

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  8 месяцев назад

      @@dappolajon7008 ya

  • @vdbdg
    @vdbdg Год назад

    Maybe get one as a cool token before a possible lawsuit kills it off. Not sure who wants the cheap version of anything though

    • @WH-hi5ew
      @WH-hi5ew Год назад +1

      A a guess someone who might be want to spend about £1,000 on a watch rather than say £40,000 for a Royal Oak.

  • @ahojnazdar3656
    @ahojnazdar3656 8 месяцев назад

    Do yourself a favor and sell the watch please. You say WHAT should be done differently...how many watches do you think would CHW sell if they follow what you said? Imagine this watch with normal clasp on integrated bracelet, with more square indices and with more prominent bezel...IMO you don't have a clue what you're saying. To achieve overall balanced look and feel of a watch is such a chemistry affected by so many small details...

  • @_AlphaLimaGolf
    @_AlphaLimaGolf Год назад +2

    I own the white dial and haven’t noticed any issues with the comfort of the clasp. It’s a very comfortable watch to wear.
    If I could change one thing, I wish the flat brushed area of the bezel was a little wider and therefore the dial also a little smaller. Otherwise I’m loving it so far.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Glad your clasp feels good! I may just be hyper aware or at least may just be the way I wear the bracelet.
      And absolutely needs to be more bezel overall. Hope you continue to enjoy yours nonetheless

  • @benjaminvis
    @benjaminvis Год назад +1

    Definitely becomes much easier to apprecite when on the wrist in sunlight! For me, the applied logo works, and I would prefer to to more printed text on the dial, too. The strong design of the logo works well with their more modern design direction in this watch. I was surprised by the inconsistence and lack of definition on the markers. Effectively, if perhaps predominantly in macro view, this element brings down the experience of quality, which considering the many times that CW is now lauded for their excellent finishing, is disappointing and the softness of that finish does not work well against the hands, logo, and sharp lines of the case. Discussions since launch focus on how derivative the design is. The clever part is that people tend to disagree what it is most derived from. I can point to half a dozen models where design elements come from. You were mentioning the hands, and yes, there is lineage in CW, but it also strikes we as very close to the Wise Adamascus AD7, especially with the Aqua Terra inspired marker shapes. While not unique, the arguably most unusual element (next to the decorative dial texture) is how the bracelet rises up to the case, instead of lugs coming down to contain the bracelet. Ultimately, I feel they could have taken all of these ideas, modified them, and brought them together to achieve another level of distinctive design. It's good looking, but there is much choice including better value options which seem to have originated from a more authentic vision.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      Absolutely is a good watch and the dial finishing is subpar from what I expect coming from previous wards I’ve had. I don’t doubt it’s hard to make a watch from the ground up but I do think they could probably “grow into” this model and make it better and better. Looking at something like their trident range it’s evolved a lot over the years so I’m assuming the same with this

    • @benjaminvis
      @benjaminvis Год назад

      @@theknightswatch yet the slightly odd thing is that other brands don't necessarily need to grow into new models so much and just really convince from the start. CW should logically know how to avoid the niggles, since that's not essentially different from getting other (evolved) models right.

  • @Markisflippinsweet
    @Markisflippinsweet Год назад

    You had to pay import tax?

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Yes it’s standard on their site now. If you go to checkout and enter your info it’ll show you how much you pay in taxes and import for the purchase

  • @jukkakemppainen2164
    @jukkakemppainen2164 Год назад

    I just ordered this watch because i like it a lot😁

  • @BulkersRuleZ
    @BulkersRuleZ Год назад

    So basically Royal Oak for this reviewer would be a bad watch XD

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Spoiler I don’t like the royal oak that much. I’ve reviewed a couple

  • @Swisha90s
    @Swisha90s Год назад

    Bark finish on the hour markers👍

  • @Poise716
    @Poise716 Год назад

    I absolutely hate the full name on their watches. I haven’t liked a single watch because of that until they released this new logo. It’s so weird to just have someone full name on the face of a watch. You crazy lol

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +1

      Fair but no one cares about patek, audemars, gp, or journe. There’s plenty of watches that solely use someone name. Not any that comes to mind that use only a logo and no text

    • @Poise716
      @Poise716 Год назад

      @@theknightswatch you’re right and that’s usually the response I get. Maybe I just don’t like the way they write it and just the way the name looks on watch.

  • @terencekoh6296
    @terencekoh6296 Год назад

    critique on the indices is right on point

  • @lengx.9798
    @lengx.9798 Год назад +1

    Most of watch makers want their products look sharp, but only a few would like to spend more to round off the sharp edges on the case and bracelet. A good finish should looks sharp but feels soft, one good example is Monta.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Clasp on monta is good absolutely in terms of not being sharp. I do remember one being uncomfortable still as a noble I believe. Annoyed with it to the point I didn’t review it but that was over a year ago so can’t quite remember why 😂

    • @lengx.9798
      @lengx.9798 Год назад

      @@theknightswatch Monta used to have a super long and flat clasp that doesn't curve around anyone's wrist 😂

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      @@lengx.9798 probably could be it 😂

  • @lockhandel
    @lockhandel Год назад +1

    This channel has a lot of potential!!!! Subscribed!!!

  • @SoCalWatchReviews
    @SoCalWatchReviews Год назад +1

    Another great video brother, I really like this one.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад +2

      Appreciate it man, Christopher Ward is definitely coming out with some interesting pieces, exciting to see where they’ll go from here. Can’t wait for their 2k flying perpetual tourbillion that breaks the industry 😂

    • @SoCalWatchReviews
      @SoCalWatchReviews Год назад

      @@theknightswatch 😂

  • @FightGenius98
    @FightGenius98 Год назад

    how would you compare the finishing to the grand seiko sbgx261? I own the sbgx261 and am consistently blown away by its quality and finishing.

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      Not quite as in your face as Zaratsu but having owned both I would say the bracelet execution. Does feel better here(at least aesthetically) and the polish accents on the bracelet really take it up a notch’s is it night and day with the gs, no. But side by side you should be able to lean to gs for finishing

  • @weareoneraew
    @weareoneraew Год назад

    Great review!!! Much appreciated❤️

  • @Psysso
    @Psysso Год назад

    The thing is if im gonna drop more than a grand on a microbrand, with little to almost no history , the watch better be exceptional. And this aint it. If they gave titanium& cosc variant for this price maybe.

  • @StaleCookies
    @StaleCookies Год назад

    overall its a nice looking watch but I can't stand the dial. it looks like an egg tray.

  • @JohnnyTaxonomy
    @JohnnyTaxonomy 11 месяцев назад

    This is a fancier PRX.

  • @STEBTTI
    @STEBTTI Год назад

    the Twelve is 10 times better than the prx

    • @theknightswatch
      @theknightswatch  Год назад

      I don’t know about 10 times! Haha but on paper yes, much better. I’d probably still wear a prx though as the designs stand at the moment

  • @alexfrost8645
    @alexfrost8645 3 месяца назад

    I have the omega aqua terra black dial, and this dial seems highly influenced on this, obviously with a few changes and their own pattern. It’s a very strange watch for me, as it’s trying to blend an aqua terra (more toward the dressier side, with a lot of polishing) with the genta inspired look of all in one bracelet, but by making everything so slender and polished, you loose the tool watch industrial look of genta / integrated bracelet look. It’s a weird miss match which for me just does not work. I can see why some people love it, but I wouldn’t buy it. Great review btw.

  • @yoddeb
    @yoddeb 11 месяцев назад

    They were forced to go for the ugly triangles, due to the similarities to the czapek