STOP! You NEED To KNOW About AMAZON SIDEWALK
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Stop! You really do need to know about Amazon Sidewalk. Amazon sidewalk sounds good for the smart home benefits. But you do have to share a portion of your internet to Amazon Sidewalk.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
00:18 What this video is about
01:02 What is Sidewalk
01:18 Amazon written explanation
01:49 What that means
02:05 How it works
03:18 Benefits of Sidewalk
03:51 Sidewalk Devices
04:18 Sidewalk App Settings
04:52 Sidewalk sharing with neighbors
05:12 Amazon Sidewalk sharing explanation
05:40 Benefits of Sidewalk sharing
05:50 Sharing your network and data use
06:32 Is there a need?
07:15 Privacy
08:12 I don't see the value
08:22 Home Sidewalk Use is great
08:40 Mesh Wifi is a must
08:59 Sidewalk is a great step
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tile trackers will use sidewalk. this could help me if my skullcandy tile enabled earbuds if theywere stolen. or even my electric scooter with a tile inside. i would love to use airtags but if someone were to steal something it would alert its presence causing it to be removed by the theif
Now your neighbor can find your lost key and make you dinner while you’re at work. And hackers can steal your dog after shutting off all cameras.
😑yea
In Soviet Amazon, sharing is caring!!!
When you can’t actually sell a fishy product to large numbers of consumers so you have to imbed it into a different device like Alexa and ring doorbells
I love how this all sounds in theory, but with all the political stuff going on with big tech right now, it's really making me skeptical. I think it's also really sneaky to have it enabled by default. Something doesn't smell right here. Thank you for pointing this out.
It sounds like a play through triangulation for high resolution mapping of all Amazon users in America.
Thank you for the info. Sidewalk roll out has been on my radar for awhile now. Knowing that it has now been implemented, and the information for potential pro's, cons and setting locations is very helpful.
Thanks for your explanation . . . however, I'm suspicious of any person/organization/entity that defaults me (with very short notice notice) into something (with the rationale that it's for my benefit) & this 'default' is costing a portion of (granted very small) of my internet connection (which I pay for). So, Amazon is going to be riding for free as all of us pay for the foundation of their sidewalk. Make no mistake about it, this is not for our benefit . . . tell me any corp. that's altruistic enough to do something like this? No to mention the recent cyber attacks (gas pipe line; meat industry; etc) . . . no, not interested in giving any access to my internet.
I think it might be a risk too! Not privacy and hackers will have a lot of fun too! I don’t like how this sound. Thank you Craig!
Of course I would share it with others because it is better for us all. Selfishness is not a virtue. No one can harm each other with this technology. Remember, you’re not paranoid, your not paranoid enough!
This brings up an interesting question...say you have old 1st/2nd gen echo dots...they don't support sidewalk. But if you add a new echo dot before June 8th 2021 it will show up under "account setting" and you can either disable or enable it...but after June 8th if you add a new echo dot you will not be able to opt-out of Sidewalk.
Great overview. What I'd really like to see is a demo of it working and its benefits. For example, improving a connection to a Ring doorbell.
Thank you for this video. Very helpful.
Thanks for letting us know
Thank you sir.
Thank you very much, Craig for this very objective and positive video about Sidewalk. I learned about Sidewalk early, perhaps due to my interest in LoRa, and I have become so sick and tired of all the knee-jerk negativity and Halloween-like harum-scarum about Sidewalk on other RUclips channels. I am eagerly looking forward to taking advantage of it, and I hope to see more detailed videos from you about that. I will look forward to coming here to learn about devices and opportunities to take full advantage of Sidewalk, so I look forward to followup videos from you on the topic, with tips and ideas.
It isn't part of the Alexa settings here in Canada.
Love your informative videos thank you.
Never had good luck with mesh.. I have Asus Mesh AI and I instead just bridged 3 routers and gave them each there own unique SSID. I now connect the devices to the router closest to them.
Does sidewalk affect the fire stick without the dot etc…
Thanks Craig… BTW… I am a Craig toooo👍🏻✌🏻
I don’t have an Alexa yet but getting one soon and I think it’s a good idea.
We like to think about the “what if’s “ more than the positives.
You are trying to see both sides which is good.
We all will be connected at some point and we might not know it now but it’ll come in handing at some point as well.
We got to stop sweating the negatives and the paranoia.
Great vid.
So just let the government and big tech (very connected at this point) infringe and violate our privacy incrementally and "don't sweat it"?
Let me guess... "I have nothing to hide so it's ok", right?
I definitely agree a lot of the tech is amazing and we should take advantage of it, and embrace how it can make our lives easier, but to just not worry about privacy and their consolidation of power at the same time is completely irresponsible.
Maybe I'm overstating what you you mean, and if so, I apologize, but we can't continue to be frogs in a slowly boiling pot either.
Have a great day.
@@72dodge340
If you’re that paranoid and you can’t trust “big tech” then don’t use it.
To use any technology that can be used to spy on you and others then don’t use it.
Don’t say you can’t stop using them.
You can.
Go off the grid.
Give up what scares you.
We are all connected, that’s life, that’s the future.
We are all one system, body, whatever you want to call it.
When and how does the announcement to specific devices start?
Did you know you can say “Alexa screen off” and the screen will turn off. You can just say “Alexa” to wake it up again. Great if you don’t want a bright screen at night.
UK telecom company British Telecom have been doing similar for ages. Allows customers WiFi access when out and about. Meant for temporary internet access for emails etc.
Hmm, so many reasons. . . 1) DonkeyNet has nothing to share, 2) The street is 1/10 mile from the house, 3) The gravel road does not HAVE a sidewalk! Oh and one of my Studios (Amazon wake word) REALLY enjoyed this video! (Yes, they seem to be behaving again. . .)
nice video, thank you!
Thank you Pei Tian. I am glad you enjoyed it.
Good info.. I lost track on how many times you said "sidewalk" - would make a great drinking game :D
Seriously, thanks for the explanation!
A trend among tech companies is to go fishing with free or low cost capabilities that may provide some benefit to users of those capabilities but also benefit the tech companies enormously. Hey there still is no free lunch so you can bet your 401k that Amazon is getting more out of the situation than you are and probably more than all users combined. That Amazon benefit may not be realized immediately, but you can bet your 401k that there is an easily attainable threshold where those benefits start flowing to Amazon. Another major consideration is that once you are on Amazon's sidewalk how hard is it to get off it. How entrenched in your life does Amazon become by making you dependent on THEIR services for which their is NO competitor. How long do you think Amazon will continue giving you their promotional free service before they decide that you are so entrenched that it would be to painful for you to move off their sidewalk and so they got you right where they want you and start charging for their "free" service. Today there are alternatives to everything that Amazon want's you to think is too cool to not get from THEIR sidewalk. I emphasized THEIR because remember they "own" sidewalk and probably can attach their ownership to your devices as a condition of use the first time you connect. Read the terms and conditions very very carefully. Hire a lawyer to protect yourself from the richest monopoly in the world before you commit anything to Amazon which they so sneakily tried to slip by you by activating their service by default! Bottom line: understand your exposure before you step into Amazon's trap and make sure you have a real damn good reason to buy into this tech offering, not just because it's so cool and like totally geeky or says "Amazon"!
Will it come to India 🤔. Its not there in settings.
i have a ring doorbell 3 and this is actually perfect to be able to connect it to my wifi. for some reason the wifi has low signal only just on the other side of the door, but my phone is on the wifi in the car still. So if you could do a video showing me how to get it to work as an extender only, id appreciate it! :)
People still buy the most hackable "security" device?
I think it's s great idea. There for those who want it. Let's see how it goes. I don't mind sharing a little of my broadband.
Comcast/Xfinity routers already do this... How do you think they have hotspots everywhere? Even in apartments and residential neighborhoods?
Thanks for the information, to bad Amazon didn't tell us about this feature. Hmm I wonder WHY! Where are the centers that monitor our information and privacy.
I like the idea!
I have to pay for my internet service and I don't need Amazon bootlegging on it. Sidewalk will stay turned off. By the way, mesh wifi is the only way to go. I have the original Google wifi mesh and I have loved it. It could use a few more options to change settings, but it works well. I have blanketed my whole property inside and out with mesh wifi.
You dont want amazon bootlegging but happy for google to..k
SAME 900 MHZ BAND USED ON REMEMBER OLD CORDLESS HOME PHONES YOU COULD LISTEN TO PEOPLE CONVERSATION ON A AM RAIDO
not analog.
I made sure all of my devices are enabled. Sidewalk using 900 MHz, not wifi 2.4 or 5 GHz. It is encrypted and low bandwidth. I am very excited at the future uses of sidewalk.
My sengled light hub seems to need to be soft booted every week or so, otherwise the same light by my stairwell becomes unresponsive. Like the hub can only take so many commands. So I put a smart plug on the hub that's set to turn off for 1 minute everyday at 4 am. Just my little hack for my cheap smart home problem.
We had an email about it in the U.K., but it was a mistake, at the moment, it is not going to be launched in the U..K, they would have to rename it to pavement :), we don't use the term sidewalk here. The other thing is our privacy laws are a bit stranger than in the U.S, so if it came here, it would have to be as an opt in system. Bt used to use a system called Fon many years ago on their routers, in which people could share a bit of their bandwidth, so other people outside could use it for their phones. It is now called BT Wifi.
When I was with BT for my broadband many years ago I thought it would be useful, for my HTC s710, we are looking at around 2007 here, so no high speed cell network, but not enough people had Fon and certainly not in the centre of town where it would have been more useful
As for Sidewalk/pavement, if it came to the U./K, because it would be an opt in, i expect it would not take off that well
Sounds a bit like Thread but for Amazon /Echo Compatible products?
I find it a bit dodgy that Sidewalk is enabled by default. There’s a lot of not tech savvy users out there who might be taken advantage of here...
Sounds like they’re getting ready for the CHOIP protocol because Apple put thread in the HomePod mini.
I was thinking the same thing. I’ll stick with Apple, HomeKit, and Thread, thank you very much. Apple is much better about privacy.
I like Apples work with Thread. There are practical benefits of thread right now.
@@mpetrides same. I’m staying with HomeKit.
Well i think is a good thing to connect the camara who are far from router.. i think... wha you guys think??
I don’t think It is really meant for that at this point. It isn’t meant for streaming video. It is about communication over larger areas and basically piggybacking the signal off users devices. Thanks for watching
I take it this is US only. Not in my settings in the UK
My home network is not to be shared with anyone for any reason, at any time without my 100% control. It is 100% private and security is a top priority. This "service" being defaulted to On should be a big red flag.
I disabled this "Service" months ago in the app. Just checked again today and found it enabled... again. A real trust builder right there. My next step will be to figure out how this "Service" is communicating and disable it in my gateway. If that does not work I know there is space for all of these devices out in the county landfill.
I prefer Mesh over sharing connections
They sent several emails prior to the rollout, they didn’t just implement it without notice. The emails even told you how to opt out.
Let's see, maybe Amazon will use the Helium network.
Sidewalk Feature is Not Available in Canadian Version Amazon App.
It's definitely secure having 3rd parties access to your network. No one is going hack your network. LOL. How bad are people's networks? I you're going to buy all these smart devices, you should also buy a wifi network that can support those devices.
This is a a yuuuge security exploit/risk. I disabled this months ago.
I think everyone criticizing this based on their privacy concerns are making way too many assumptions. Whatever you're viewing this video with at this very moment is doing more tracking and invading your privacy more than this sidewalk feature.
Also, if you have these concerns: why are you using these devices anyways?
That’s a great point. Thanks for watching.
Nice explanation Craig. For me personally i don’t see any benefit. The bells do go off Though when something is put on by default, especially when it means i will be sharing anything with others. With privacy being a hot topic in the world we live in i prefer to share only the necessary and that which i can control.
nice
okay but what about internet data overages? they say it will only share 500mb. thats half a GB and thats all it takes to go over a data cap that does not matter how much it is. Comcast charges A LOT of money when you go over.
Doesn't make sense to me. We now have wifi extenders and mesh home networks so to say far away devices can't connect well there are solutions than having to share your network. Plus I'm pretty sure there will be someone somewhere to exploit Amazon Sidewalk despite their security encryption.
Get a better or another router. Doesn’t sound safe to share your network with anyone.
I am all for people getting a better router. Mesh is such a great option.
Sounds great in the suburbs but pointless in a city because at least 5 out of 40 apartments will have this active unknowingly so others can bank off each other... I know I will! 😩
The mesh
I don't know if this was already said .., better off using the Helium Network.. it's better, cheaper, created by the people for the people AND... you internet is not shared.. NOTHING is shared.. period.. I use Helium obviously.. it's awesome
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Well I'm in we need to help
if your dog is microchipped, i mean.... what's the point of buying a second device to track your pet?
Amazon sent me an alert that Sidewalk was coming several months ago. When I got to the part about sharing my internet connection, I promptly went into settings and turned the dang “feature” off. Do you really trust Amazon, given their past privacy misdeeds and missteps, with access to your home network for the purpose of sharing that connection? I don’t.
@Sonic Mobian Sure. And that’s like saying, “Don’t want to get run over while walking, don’t ever walk near cars.” It works but is not functional. It’s much more useful to suggest that one avoid high risk situations-like avoiding Amazon Sidewalk. Or simply sticking to HomeKit devices and eschewing Alexa entirely.
Tbh I think in the end it don’t matter as long as your using a phone or any other kind of internet connected device you’ll always be spied on
@@phoenixc6812 That may well be true but why would I want to encourage it?
I understand that people are skeptical that they automatically turned it off but I think of it as “they made this new function to their Alexa products. But... it uses our customers wifi connection and connects to other peoples Amazon products I see why people might not like this we should give them and option to turned it off.” But I do see the possible security threats but we will have to see.
Scary stuff
Still not clear what this is all for. What problem is Sidewalk trying to solve?
Yes Android has Find Device.
Despite the fake scare tactics, this technology doesn’t allow people browsing the internet…the only thing it does is sends a ping to amazon servers that a device is nearby along with any useful related information.
It’s capped at 80kbps and 500Mb a month of “sharing”. It can’t be used for anything else other than GPS, device information and that communication is encrypted so the middle-man doesn’t actually know what is being sent.
With that in mind,
I don’t agree with Amazon making it on by default.
I don’t agree with sharing any portion of my internet with strangers.
I agree with turning this setting off
I purchased the echo and other dots because of the Sidewalk technology , I have a need for a wifi extender to our Horse barn and it works great !
It sounds like the vac for the net.
Not being rolled out in the UK Not sure if this is good or bad. Alot of Tech guys are saying this is good
Just don’t see the neighborhood benefit. I don’t believe we should build the network and then the uses for it will come after. Sorry, not going to be a relay for the equivalent of a tile tracker. Maybe some gem use is hidden that I don’t know about. But Amazon’s own description is for finding lost things or pets. Thanks for watching. Have a great day.
I don't see this in my app
Basically sounds like what Apple does for “find my” features
The app seems to be updated compared to yours. The Sidewalk option is completely gone now.
Trust Jeff Bezos. There’s nothing wrong here. Don’t want sidewalk? Then, start jumping through hoops.
I'm guess if you have a poor connection from a Ring doorbell to router then it would have to be reasonably close to neighbour's network to correct the problem.
The idea would be that your other sidewalk devices would help with a stronger connectio. Like THREAD that Apple is using, the device to device communication is faster and a stronger connection.
@@CraigsTechTalk While that might work, why would you rely on devices outside of your control? If your ring doorbell is suddenly working better because the neighbour added a new device, is that really a good thing? What hapens when he shuts that device off?
Hello Lee, what I am talking about is using sidewalk for personal use. You can use it to help connect your own devices with the support of sidewalk. There is not enough reason yet for me to share my sidewalk devices with neighbors. I see benefits now for personal use.
Not on the U.K. one
"Other frequencies"= 5g
Sidewalk. Not no, Heck no!!! Glad I use HomeKit only. Never trust a bald guy he mite be holding a cat. Yes that is a 007 joke. ;D
That is funny. I thought it could be Dr. Evil from Austin powers
Neighborhood security cameras! Make it work Amazon!
@Tegridy Farms Do you even know what I'm talking about? Or are you just letting everyone know your sexual preference?
This is serious !!
No frigging way!!!!!
This was done by comcast years ago, their routers were able to connect to other routers to share and expand internet. This was removed, people don't want that, so why Amazon bringing something no one wants?
That's why I got my own router and not one supplied by CommunistCast.
Is sidewalk US only ?
Your phone is scarier than this!
Yes, it is US only. I agree David. I think people forget that their phone listens like these devices.
Yup. Hard pass.
So, in other words this means that my neighbors can simple setup their devices with Sidewalk, cut the cord from their Internet provider, save a lot of money and still use all the benefits of a smart home, like doorbells, smart lights, etc, while using my wi-fi bandwhith. Thank you but no thank you.
No the bandwidth for a single Alexa is an average of 1.08 GB/month so more than double the limit. That’s only one Alexa do more definitely would not work
No you didn’t say anything right here
This is dystopian as all hell. There is this amorphous low cost 900mhz (almost unblockable, at least without SERIOUS consequences). Right now if you have - lets say - a smart TV, and you don't trust it from a privacy perspective, you can just not connect it to your network. With sidewalk just about anything that is powered can surreptitiously be spying on you. Picture a future where every extension cord, every light bulb (even non-smart ones) absolutely everything in your house has a little microphone and is constantly listening, and sending data back home over Side3walk or similar networks, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Shit like this needs to be completely banned, yet because of industry lobbyists it will likely never happen, unless we have a revolution.
I turned it off immediately . . . no, I am not selfish, I pay a fortune for my bandwidth and want every bit of it.
This is not wifi it's a 900mhz network that has yet to be proven secure hackers could use it to get in your lan...
Internet service providers are going to have a shit fit when this starts gaining momentum
Remember, sidewalk is skynet
The 9th dimension lizard overlords want this so they can feed on our souls from the sidewalks
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This guy reminds me of a young Bill Clinton for some reason.
I turned that ish off
So they are repeaters I'm glad I've sacked all Amazon services
I enjoy the benefits of a smart home but I am getting real close to chucking all this stuff in the trash.
Give me a speaker with limited local only control or give me death.
well i have a feeling that none of my neighbors really have any smart devices other than their doorbells. So i will be the one sharing while they are completely oblivious to it. No thanks.
These few trivial reasons for wanting this are a buncha shit. This is total surveilance. Just in case you lose your internet connection alexa can still relay every word you ever mutter.
huge hell no
The truth is, even if you disable Sidewalk, Amazon still has access to all the Sidewalk data it collects from your devices. Just read your Terms and Conditions and you'll confirm what I'm saying. So then the question is... do we enable Sidewalk and help our neighbors find their lost puppy, or keep it disabled but still give up our privacy. Either way, Amazon has our information.
and this is why i run Pi-hole on my network. Block it all... easy and free. open source "no phone home"
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Yeah, I haven't finished pen-testing Sidewalk, but it's not looking good so far.
@@thewallcometh1444 Unfortunate as my wife loves our echo. Being connected certainly has its challenges.
Makes not a jot of difference to the UK as usual we don't have it 🤷🏻♂️