What would a Labour government mean for Britain's Jews?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • On 20th May, The Jewish Chronicle hosted a panel discussion raising the question of what a Labour government would mean for Britain's Jews.
    Joining JC Editor Jake Wallis Simons were Labour activist Josh Simons, former MP Dame Louise Ellman, chair of the Jewish Labour movement Mike Katz, and journalist Melanie Phillips.
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  • @redset11
    @redset11 4 месяца назад +40

    As a Christian raised in London i have and will always support the Jewish people's right to their homeland Israel. A regular reader of Melanie Phillips - she's brilliant and i whole heartedly agree with her as she writes and speaks the truth. The ignorance of the average Brit surrounding the history of Israel and Palastine is staggering and given our Judeo-christian heritage quite disgraceful.

    • @carolegriggs3107
      @carolegriggs3107 4 месяца назад +5

      Bravo 👏👏. Melanie is always spot on. The only one who ever talks sense on Question Time, too.

    • @Noel-ji8nm
      @Noel-ji8nm 3 месяца назад

      ​@@carolegriggs3107She's a deceiver.

  • @IngridLitman
    @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад +85

    I do not trust Labour.

    • @carolegriggs3107
      @carolegriggs3107 4 месяца назад +4

      Never

    • @RobertLinden-jm1ld
      @RobertLinden-jm1ld 3 месяца назад

      If it come to it I’m a great. Fan of the Sampson option

    • @IngridLitman
      @IngridLitman 3 месяца назад

      @@RobertLinden-jm1ld What is the Sampson option?

    • @memzepper6096
      @memzepper6096 2 месяца назад

      I do not trust Trump 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @semsemeini7905
    @semsemeini7905 4 месяца назад +18

    I started reading the Jewish Chronicle when I was 12 in 1964 and still in Britain. Loved reading it and always looked forward. Melanie Phillips a Star. Read her book Londonstan 20 years ago. My best friend who is Muslim says that if Labour wins it will be a disaster. Louise has a lot of courage. Must be a nightmare in this pool of hatred. I witnessed the antisemitism of the 1960s already. And now it's way worse.

  • @njuham
    @njuham 4 месяца назад +62

    Labour is beyond redemption, what Starmer is doing is polishing the proverbial.

    • @pinxtownington4645
      @pinxtownington4645 4 месяца назад

      They have screwed tax payers every which way over the years all labour councils have regularly cut services put rates up and to top it all you pay for going to tip,pay parking outside your house you name it over their tanure poor really got poorer and to to top it up Gordon brown sold 400 tons of treasury gold to his cronies at favourable rates

  • @JelMain
    @JelMain 4 месяца назад +39

    Make Labour electable again? Oh dear. It's things like this which have us in despair. What a choice!

    • @jfc4798
      @jfc4798 4 месяца назад

      They'll win by a landslide. Don't cry too much😢😢😢

  • @Lighthouse567
    @Lighthouse567 4 месяца назад +20

    Sadly I think Melanie is right and The Labour Party will get rid of Keir once they are in

    • @carolegriggs3107
      @carolegriggs3107 4 месяца назад +2

      God help us of Angela Rayner moves up a cog…

  • @Mar11932
    @Mar11932 4 месяца назад +22

    Agree with everything Melanie Phillips says.

    • @carolegriggs3107
      @carolegriggs3107 4 месяца назад +2

      Melanie is always spot on ~ whatever the subject.

  • @IngridLitman
    @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад +63

    I stand for Israel and the Jewish people in this country ❤

    • @fabfran4104
      @fabfran4104 4 месяца назад +4

      Why?

    • @jimjames4348
      @jimjames4348 4 месяца назад +7

      @@fabfran4104 Why not? I don't understand the people supporting hamas after their biggest ever massacre.

    • @8_7478
      @8_7478 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@fabfran4104Such a clever question. What made you ask?

    • @johnhealey4649
      @johnhealey4649 4 месяца назад

      You conveniently ignore all the massacres of Arab people by the Zionists over the previous 76 years.​@@jimjames4348

    • @carolegriggs3107
      @carolegriggs3107 4 месяца назад

      So so i

  • @patricia49509
    @patricia49509 4 месяца назад +18

    Everyone who loves this country has had enough .... Labour and Tory party dont care about ppl u all let hate run the streets people have had enough 😔

  • @susanschacter2346
    @susanschacter2346 4 месяца назад +38

    Melanie Phillips is the only one on the panel who is in touch with reality.

    • @pinxtownington4645
      @pinxtownington4645 4 месяца назад +2

      Don't go falling for that

    • @moonshinesa8234
      @moonshinesa8234 4 месяца назад +1

      It’s not falling for anything when you recognise someone who knows history very well and has no agenda and, therefore, doesn’t tell lies.

  • @johnkohsamui6826
    @johnkohsamui6826 4 месяца назад +21

    I'm not a Jew, but I am Israeli, and you guys are barmy if you vote for a Labour government.

  • @Private-qg5il
    @Private-qg5il 4 месяца назад +32

    We have no future anymore here, regardless... unless there is a major shift amongst fellow Brits. I don't see that coming.

    • @Owenalpe
      @Owenalpe 4 месяца назад

      Don’t count the silent majority out.
      They see the hate against Jews and abhor it. Not because they love Jews necessarily but because they understand what it means for ordinary Brit’s to have this marriage between Islamism and the Left.
      We need a new political class and generation to take all of this on head first

    • @IngridLitman
      @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад +10

      There is a shift the working class Brits have had enough. 1st June.

    • @davidcooks2379
      @davidcooks2379 4 месяца назад +2

      @user-yo6uq2fw1p what will happen on 1 June?

    • @IngridLitman
      @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад +3

      @@davidcooks2379 A celebration of all that is British.

    • @Pitchblue1
      @Pitchblue1 4 месяца назад

      Leave England before its too late , Christians might survive the Islamists revolution but the jews , we are a tiny minority and the people with their Palastine protests made their intentions very clear

  • @IngridLitman
    @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад +34

    David Cameron has to go how did he creep back in????

  • @pauln2587
    @pauln2587 4 месяца назад +12

    1. Labour gets in. 2 Islamist MPs. 3. Sharia law in UK. Then the Saturday people followed by the Sunday people.

  • @LeeGee
    @LeeGee 4 месяца назад +14

    The answer, in short, is Aliyah.

    • @yehuditcollins6783
      @yehuditcollins6783 4 месяца назад +2

      Agreed. Made Aliyah in 1979. Never regretted it. Bonus: Great health care here.

    • @Must_not_say_that
      @Must_not_say_that 4 месяца назад +3

      Sadly, very sadly you are right. But not just that, turn to God because the world is turning against Jews and only God can and will deliver.

  • @marinats5873
    @marinats5873 4 месяца назад +9

    Vote right in any Western country

  • @DebbieMinzly-en2nb
    @DebbieMinzly-en2nb 4 месяца назад +15

    I will never vote for for labour.

  • @adrianmoses3420
    @adrianmoses3420 4 месяца назад +14

    So how come Galloway won Rochdale on a Gaza ticket?

    • @jstewart4205
      @jstewart4205 4 месяца назад +11

      I think you already know the answer to that!

    • @davidcooks2379
      @davidcooks2379 4 месяца назад +9

      Muslims

    • @InterestedInDansk
      @InterestedInDansk 4 месяца назад +1

      Don't worry he's a _busted flush_

    • @sisiphas
      @sisiphas 3 месяца назад

      @@InterestedInDansk perhaps not quite

  • @richardevans362
    @richardevans362 4 месяца назад +17

    A Labour malaise would mean that the Jews would have to leave UK in a hurry.

    • @debbielondon1809
      @debbielondon1809 4 месяца назад +5

      And a non-jew that makes my heart bleed. What would the UK be without our Jews? They are an important part of the fabric of our society.

    • @carolegriggs3107
      @carolegriggs3107 4 месяца назад +3

      Yes, and all over the world. 🇮🇱

  • @bampitony6108
    @bampitony6108 4 месяца назад +8

    I really dread to think... Letting our friends down big time.. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪🇮🇱🇬🇧🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱

  • @ag.s2012
    @ag.s2012 4 месяца назад +32

    I refer to the tweet on X where I questioned the moral compass and validity of these Jewish reps of labour when the day after (they probably knew) that David lammy of labour, shadow foreign secretary, stated labour support the ICC support of arresting Netanyahu, Z well as supporting Spain, ireland and Norway, by saying if labour get in they’ll seriously consider making their support official in the Palestinian state. If I was them I’d be ashamed and embarrassed that this is the REAL intention of labour. Let no Jew vote for labour. Corbyn’s ghost still casts a shadow and this is with sir keir’s permission. Don’t vote labour if you’re Jewish

    • @jstewart4205
      @jstewart4205 4 месяца назад +8

      Let no one vote for Labour...full stop?

    • @pinxtownington4645
      @pinxtownington4645 4 месяца назад +4

      Don't vote labour if you love your country

    • @howard1beale
      @howard1beale 4 месяца назад

      ​@jstewart4205 exactly. Labour will sell Jews and anyone else down the river to turn us all into plebs

  • @CrystalJ7
    @CrystalJ7 4 месяца назад +4

    Melanie's face in the last few mins says it all and I believe she is right

  • @IngridLitman
    @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад +27

    Watched an interview where labour MPs want to bring Gazan’s into the UK! What look at what is happening on our streets we are sick of these marches. Enough is enough no to the rise of antisemitism in the UK.

    • @susanschacter2346
      @susanschacter2346 4 месяца назад +4

      Across the pond in Canada, we have put out the Welcome mat for Gazans😢

    • @IngridLitman
      @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад +3

      @@susanschacter2346 Justin Castro what can I say.

    • @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak
      @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@susanschacter2346it's insanity isn't it.

  • @loganjames3789
    @loganjames3789 4 месяца назад +4

    Grief. If the JC thinks this 3 Labour aparatchiks... + 'rightist' Melanie is balanced or reflective of British Jews is delusional. The 'I will always vote Labour' is a dead end mantra and very depressing to hear. Thank you, Melanie, for your efforts.

  • @h9erbi9dog
    @h9erbi9dog 4 месяца назад +24

    Trouble, so vote Reform U.K.

    • @Rexident97
      @Rexident97 4 месяца назад +1

      Vote for Reform is vote for Labour genius

    • @scepteredisle
      @scepteredisle 4 месяца назад

      Labour activist fake account

    • @carolegriggs3107
      @carolegriggs3107 4 месяца назад

      I will be.

    • @carolegriggs3107
      @carolegriggs3107 4 месяца назад +1

      This is what I worry about. In spite of everything I think I still have to vote Tory, as I’ve done for years…

  • @boysiedent6149
    @boysiedent6149 4 месяца назад +1

    One thing is absolutely certain that is whatever any new UK government do or give to the Jews. I will most certainly Never Be Enough

  • @lawrenceglover2674
    @lawrenceglover2674 4 месяца назад +3

    Louise Ellmann's recollections are terrible to hear. However, are the panel members really alarmed at the prospect of a Keir Starmer premiership? The Labour Party's position on the Gaza conflict, along with Germany's, gives unflinching support to the IDF Gaza onslaught. Melanie Phillips hovers somewhere to the right of Itamar Ben Gvir . But I found this a most interesting contribution to an agonising situation.

  • @havhara
    @havhara 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for this great discussion and excellent program.

  • @johndenby6192
    @johndenby6192 4 месяца назад +2

    Does see odd that Southern Ireland demand a two state solution.
    Except for Northern Ireland , which they want back

  • @BobvanT
    @BobvanT 4 месяца назад +14

    Labour or Tory are the same - Perhaps reform might do the job . Lived in the UK from 2000 -2012 - Very happy i left . Sorry for the good Brits still left in the UK .

    • @jstewart4205
      @jstewart4205 4 месяца назад +1

      Trust me, they are very far from being the same!

    • @LeeGee
      @LeeGee 4 месяца назад +1

      I lived in the UK from my birth in '71 until 2003. I return to work every now again. As I understand, Reform want to keep legal migration as it stands, at around 750,000, and the SDP want to cut it to 50k if there are 50k with PhDs.

    • @davidcooks2379
      @davidcooks2379 4 месяца назад +1

      Where did you go?

    • @davidcooks2379
      @davidcooks2379 4 месяца назад +1

      @LeeGee reform wants net 0, and only high-skilled, no illegals

    • @RichardEnglander
      @RichardEnglander 4 месяца назад

      Yes, neoliberal Blairite globalists. Unfortunately there are also many Jews who back the WEF and globalism, open borders and the erasure of the nation state and ethnic Europeans.

  • @IngridLitman
    @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад +9

    Voting Reform who else.

    • @LeeGee
      @LeeGee 4 месяца назад

      SDP

    • @tillymay8271
      @tillymay8271 4 месяца назад

      Are they anti semitic

  • @sisiphas
    @sisiphas 3 месяца назад +1

    I have been supported and observed the Labour Party for a very long time. Melanie is definitely NOT delusional about how secure Starmer is… sadly.

  • @rareword
    @rareword 4 месяца назад +13

    Must read online: SOVIET RUSSIA, THE CREATOR OF THE PLO AND THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE by Wallace Edward Brand

    • @marinats5873
      @marinats5873 4 месяца назад +3

      When I hear propalestinian slogans, brings my memory to my childhood in USSR, no surpeise, many Palestinians were educated in Moscow, and learned to build tunnels ( moscow has the best metro, it is adiffrent use in Palestine)

    • @Aijan100
      @Aijan100 3 месяца назад

      It was mentioned a lot in Einat Wilf’s book The war of return, but definitely want to learn more.

  • @revamp777
    @revamp777 4 месяца назад +4

    Tell Starmer state your case clearly on the Jewish Question and prove it, Bring Tommy Robinson convince him if you can't then we know the score.

  • @jonathanhoffman2122
    @jonathanhoffman2122 4 месяца назад +2

    Oh come on Josh. Starmer said NOTHING about the appalling motion fromn South Africa at ICJ. Unlike Sunak.

  • @davidalexsebastiank6250
    @davidalexsebastiank6250 3 месяца назад +1

    If Labour Party comes to power in UK then doomsday for UK starts at it will show too much leniency towards Islamists

  • @RhonaDavis-lz3qp
    @RhonaDavis-lz3qp 3 месяца назад +1

    Well done Melanie. Well spoken. I am frightened to go to central London because of these marches. I think keir starmer will be replaced.

  • @Mark_Dyer
    @Mark_Dyer 4 месяца назад +1

    Is STARMER sufficiently strong as to call out the TROOPS?

  • @CrystalJ7
    @CrystalJ7 4 месяца назад +1

    Keir wants to recognise a Palestinian State....

  • @Kickback-g9l
    @Kickback-g9l 4 месяца назад +2

    Why should a labour party have to do anything for you it's like me saying what does a labour party do for the black community

    • @moonshinesa8234
      @moonshinesa8234 4 месяца назад

      You would not be asking for anything they should be doing for you anyway - which is to protect your right to live in peace in your own country.

  • @RhianBasten
    @RhianBasten 4 месяца назад +1

    Starmer is not fully with the Palestinian cause because he is married to a Jewess. She is a restraining influence, obviously. Should he be replaced then support would dwindle.

  • @santhawaldron8799
    @santhawaldron8799 4 месяца назад +7

    Please Vote for RERORM Party to sort out these Pro Palestine. Protectors and more !

    • @IngridLitman
      @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад

      Do you know what Reforms policy is towards Israel?

    • @santhawaldron8799
      @santhawaldron8799 4 месяца назад

      @@IngridLitman Reform has Jewish coordinators in Reform party for this coming election. Reform supports Israel .

  • @garywilkinson4560
    @garywilkinson4560 2 месяца назад

    Love the Jews ,love Israel.As a Christian i stand with Israel.Ezekiel 36.24

  • @IngridLitman
    @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад +2

    Well said, disgusting!!!!!

  • @RhonaDavis-lz3qp
    @RhonaDavis-lz3qp 3 месяца назад

    David lammy has said netanyahu should be arrested .

  • @Funintherain13
    @Funintherain13 4 месяца назад +1

    Josh is having to perform acrobatics.

  • @debbielondon1809
    @debbielondon1809 4 месяца назад

    Is it centrist or merely delusional to say a man can be a woman?

  • @IngridLitman
    @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад

    Whatever you do vote even if it’s a cross through the ballot paper to show our disdain.

  • @leoncsorba9085
    @leoncsorba9085 4 месяца назад

    WEF.

  • @charlesbarlow
    @charlesbarlow 4 месяца назад

    It is very difficult/unwise to ware/display a star of David in public in London at this time.

  • @easyreader6179
    @easyreader6179 4 месяца назад

    If Starmer gets in there will a Jewish family in No 10....Corbyn will hate that!!!

  • @tillymay8271
    @tillymay8271 4 месяца назад +1

    Can someone please answer my question? I don’t trust labour and I don’t trust Tori. I want to vote reform but I’m Jewish are they anti-Semitic?

    • @8_7478
      @8_7478 4 месяца назад

      Wise to be cautious as all parties use Jews when it suits them.

    • @0xkillswitch
      @0xkillswitch 4 месяца назад

      Vote workers party. Everyone else is antisemitic. Or vote for that Feinstein guy. He's Jewish and he's legit.

  • @nigeldix4841
    @nigeldix4841 4 месяца назад

    The labour talking head didn't address the question about current labour MPs supporting Hamas etc , I wonder why,

  • @hilarylazard7554
    @hilarylazard7554 4 месяца назад

    Do any of these people vote Conservative?

  • @ruthodonnell2350
    @ruthodonnell2350 4 месяца назад

    LIEBOR would be no good for anyone imo

  • @CPHSDC
    @CPHSDC 4 месяца назад +2

    The discussion assumes there is relevance to party politics.

  • @Rexident97
    @Rexident97 4 месяца назад

    F Labour

  • @TD-cg7qh
    @TD-cg7qh 4 месяца назад +3

    There was not a single mention of the suffering of the civilians of Gaza. No wonder public opinion in UK favors the Palestinian side

    • @Mar11932
      @Mar11932 4 месяца назад

      They don't. The majority of uk support Israel. Lots of data shows this. Not in far left groups though. All Corbynites polls were conducted by middle Eastern Eye!!

    • @vickycohn4586
      @vickycohn4586 4 месяца назад

      why should anyone care for the suffering of Nazis???

  • @IngridLitman
    @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад +2

    Living in lala land.

    • @8_7478
      @8_7478 4 месяца назад

      And how are you finding it?

  • @john73353
    @john73353 4 месяца назад +1

    George Galloway for Prime Minister or Jeremy Corbyon to wonder people.

  • @aliyasystemritayossi524
    @aliyasystemritayossi524 4 месяца назад

    God help you all

  • @revamp777
    @revamp777 4 месяца назад +1

    Don't be foolish about the threat to Jewish people in the UK, Israel is a mighty power, Sense of moral Equivalence is repugnant.

    • @semsemeini7905
      @semsemeini7905 4 месяца назад

      Aopologists for antisemitism is repugnant.

  • @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak
    @Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak 4 месяца назад +2

    Second holocaust

  • @paulnicholls4791
    @paulnicholls4791 4 месяца назад +3

    Let's be right. Looking at your panel, your expect special treatment,

    • @Funintherain13
      @Funintherain13 4 месяца назад +7

      huh?

    • @LeeGee
      @LeeGee 4 месяца назад

      I don't think she was commenting on this video.

    • @semsemeini7905
      @semsemeini7905 4 месяца назад

      Why because they complain of rampant Antisemitism?

  • @thomasmyers4089
    @thomasmyers4089 4 месяца назад +1

    Sorry, l have great respect for Corbyn. And sorry, if you want to reduce anti Semitic feelings in the country, stop the genocide in Palistine.

    • @CrystalJ7
      @CrystalJ7 4 месяца назад

      anti-semitism goes backs thousands of years!! nothing to do with so-called Palestine!

    • @benqurayza7872
      @benqurayza7872 3 месяца назад +1

      What genocide?

    • @thomasmyers4089
      @thomasmyers4089 3 месяца назад

      ​@@benqurayza7872If you are going to play the 3 monkey syndrome, see no evil, hear no evil, you are also not supposed to speak no evil.

  • @DebbieMinzly-en2nb
    @DebbieMinzly-en2nb 4 месяца назад +4

    I will never vote for for labour.

  • @john73353
    @john73353 4 месяца назад +1

    British Jews should-not be bullied or intimidated etc due to the Actions of their barrack Government

  • @IngridLitman
    @IngridLitman 4 месяца назад

    😂Pink, Orange and yellow.