Every one of those videos with the title of; "What Atheists Can't Explain" (and the variations on it), really should just be titled; "Things I don't Understand, That I Credit to God"
I am thinking about doing a short that says something like "Christians can't explain why their god exists without resorting to one of the 3 pillars of Christain Apologetics that disqualifies their argument."
But in this case I can't even figure how they would be explained in a way that involves God. Maybe Catholics understand boredom more than atheists because church is so boring, though.
I'm a professional technical writer, and my job is entirely based on distilling complex information into simple, precise terms. Let me just say your very clear style makes me happy, and you do an excellent job concisely presenting arguments. Now if only apologists would address the actual arguments instead of play word games with vague definitions.
This whole thing is baffling. "Atheists can't explain why songs" "Atheists can't explain know things" "ATHEISTS CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY I DON'T FIND MY WIFE ATTRACTIVE. CHECKMATE ATHEISTS". This feels less like a "God good" video and more like a mid-life crisis. Also, I tend to have the opposite reaction to music. The more I hear a song, particularly one I like, the more I get that dopamine hit.
@@TheSkyGuy77 is it though? The side with the research papers seems pretty hard up to find just what is objectively true; if you say they're lying it's sorta on you for ignoring evidence
“HUMAN BEINGS MAKE LIFE SO INTERESTING. DO YOU KNOW, THAT IN A UNIVERSE SO FULL OF WONDERS, THEY HAVE MANAGED TO INVENT BOREDOM.” ― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather (All caps because Death speaks in all caps)
Point one: I agree with what you say, with one caveat. When I hear Killing In The Name by Rage Against The Machine, it still excites me in exactly the same way as the first time that I heard it, and I remember very well the first time I heard it! Point two: I have personally met a fairly large number of people who absolutely do not want to learn anything new at all, in fact they vigorously resist it. So much for an 'insatiable appetite' for the infinite. Word three: Er, boredom? Really? That0's the hill you're going to die on? Leaving all that aside, even if we can't explain any of these things, how does this prove that atheism is wrong and religion is right? All it means is that, at this time in history, we can't explain these concepts. That's all. What an idiot.
I've played a guitar and have written down the chords and lyrics of many a song writer. There is a difference between listening to music and actually playing it. An insight is gained playing a composer's music. It's not religious. It's more of an experience. Like reading a book and interpreting the author's meaning. Interpreting the aesthetic makes us human without the need for an overseeing authority.
At a minimum each time you hear a song, it changes your brain a little bit. As such, you would fully expect us to experience the song differently each time because *you are different each time* .
@@darkofalltrades and worse, *everything else you’ve experienced* has changed you as well! This one is rather like suggesting that it hard to understand why a river never floods the same way twice, when each flood carves a different course for the river.
Saying that there are any facts that require explanation or there’s somehow a god is totally smuggling in their conclusion. A concept of a panacea isn’t even a candidate explanation for anything.
Exactly! Before we can consider a god an option, we need to show that the god is even possible. We need to justify why we are ruling IN the idea before we do.
As always with "Atheists can't explain" i would love to see them EXPLAIN the same thing, and remind them that "God did it" is not an explanation but an assertion bare from evidence.
Sciences have the explanation to his questions. But him as a theist, does he have reasonable and intelligent explanation to them? I have doubts. Thanks Dark.
Atheism has nothing to do with any of those things, nor does i attempt to do so. The ultimate question for apologists should be, "what is atheism". I've yet to see one answer this question honestly or correctly...
You are spot on. I've heard a few answer the question "What is an atheist?" correctly, but then they somehow try to either shift the burden of proof, or attribute something to atheism that they JUST defined, such as "then you have to believe that a god DIDN'T create the universe." It does get pretty frustrating.
Curiosity is not just a homo sapiens thing. The other great apes also show curiosity and the ability to pass on knowledge to other members of their species to some extent.
How do you explain what’s called a “Road Warrior Pop”. It’s a wrestling term. It describes a well loved wrestler returning. His music hits, he shows up and the crowd roars. The best example is the “glass shattering” and the crowd loses their minds before StoneCold even shows up
I love this question, and I am willing to go deeper into it if you'd like. For now I'll try to keep it brief. The idea is that your brain is different. The glass shatter for Stone Cold. The gong for the Undertaker. The flames exploding for Kane. All of these sudden sounds lead to the arrival of someone they like to do something they came to see. It is the anticipation leading to the outcome they have been wanting for. And! Every time it happens, the memory of the last time makes the feelings of how AWESOME it was come flooding back. It is an association with the awesome memory.
I think the theist said or meant to say "In one word...", not "And one word...". With that said I think I have never seen such a clear example of a theist not doing research before claiming that atheists can't answer some questions, it's like he does not know and can't imagine that research on the brain is a thing.
I think people on the autism spectrum feel differently about music, movies, etc. We always feel overstimulated, so we don’t want things that are new, we want old comforts. It’s rare I can bring myself to watch a new movie or listen to a new artist. I just want to enjoy the things I already love.
I can get behind this as someone on the spectrum. I definitely love what I love, and I frequently don't want new music. I do get an itch if I already have an artist I really like, to listen to their new stuff, and the artists they collaborate with, which leads me to finding new artists I like.
I worked in a sub shop for years that played the same classic rock playlist over and over. I can't listen to the original Pink Floyd version of "Money" anymore :/
First point just proves how stupid theists are in general, does this guy really think atheism is SOMEHOW a theory of the mind? Or something related to neuroscience? Just as ridiculous as saying electrical engineering is wrong because it doesn't explain why we are afraid of lightnings
I suppose he thinks that atheism lacks explanation for how humans think _because he foundationally believes that souls are the source of human thought._ i.e.: If anyone does not believe that we are meat puppets being controlled by an immaterial entity, then they have no explanation for why we feel feelings.
Wait a sec, if "atheists/atheism" can't explain the boredom, then what does? Is ThinkCat implying that gawd gives people boredom? And could such a boredom also be experienced in his/their afterlife as well?
I'll take a wild stab in the dark. He was going to say (if pressed) that boredom is a signal from God that it's time to get down on your knees and pray. Pray to be filled with the infinite! Pray to be flooded with the Lord! Pray to be covered in God's love!
Ooookay, but I still enjoy listening to 'Exile on Main Street', all through, every few months, and loving every song. There are other albums, individual songs, and books and paintings, too. Boredom may be the default response to repeated exposure to a given stimulus, but it's not the only one. Not sure how this is an evolutionary adaptation; maybe some things are too important... Like the Stones? Hmm...
and 1 thing theists cannot explain: the g0d... thingie. not a wizard, not a mage, not a force, not a ghost, not anything. The g0d is the g0d, because the g0d.
Yep, the bitter truth about the music industry. The songs that you never heard before will sound better than the ones you bought and listen to, wasting your precious money and time. And when you hear them, enjoy them and buy them, it will happen again and again and again...
Repeated experiences - How would that even prove a god or gods? Why would an all loving god make me bored of seeing the same person I enjoy seeing over and over again, putting a long terms train on a monogamous relationship? Appetite for the infinite - Why would an all loving god give me an appetite that, by definition, cannot be sated? That sounds more like torture. Boredom - lolwut. God exists because we get bored? How is that even different from the "appetite for the infinite" argument. Sorry, this entire argument is a logically incoherent argument from personal incredulity.
How are any of them different? Fundamentally, he just said: 1. We want new experiences instead of the same thing every time, therefore God. 2. We want new experiences instead of the same thing every time, therefore God. 3. We want new experiences instead of the same thing every time, therefore God.
@@darkofalltrades I had a dream last night where someone said that believers had been catfished by the ignorant, deeply flawed men who made these gods up. I had never thought of it like that before.
I don't get what his point was? it's probably the most muddled argument against Atheism I've seen to date. I was expecting to see him switch to we're attracted to the infinite because gawd.
Obviously I can't surmise this with certainty, but I wouldn't be surprised if he believes that "souls" are what drives human cognition (especially emotions), and therefore anyone who doesn't believe in souls cannot adequately explain why humans like and don't like things.
I think he needs to at least establish how those questions are even relevant to religion. And of course it's rather pointless to point out questions someone else can't answer if he never does.
I checked his comments, and when someone asks him a question, he seems to reply with something like "thank you for watching the video" and not respond. Which I can see why he wouldn't, but I think it leads to him just saying things and not having the conversation.
@@darkofalltrades Hmm, that sounds suspiciously like someone focused on generating engagement through controversy, rather than them looking to promote discourse and understanding. It would be too much to expect for him to fully engage with all comments. But some effort to establish his own position, could at least make his content meaningful.
According to Camus, this choice, committing philosophical suicide by taking a leap of faith, is the most common human response to confronting our mortality. Accepting naturalism involves processing a lot of bad news, and we as mildly erudite beasts are ill equipped to come to terms with it all.
I was expecting the meme to be a reminder of the catholic church being a piece of garbage organization. But the invincible meme was just silly fun dont be ashamed of silly fun.
Me watching or listening to something I love for the first time: 🙂🥲 Me watching or listening to something I love for the 2nd-10000th time: 😭😻🥳 Guess I'm just weird
Except the thing about the universe is that it is clearly possible without God. Maybe God used natural processes to create it, but the fact remains that natural processes perfectly explain everything about the universe that we've learned so far. The more we learn, the less necessary God even becomes in explaining it.
![Seungmin "그렇게, 천천히, 우리(As we are)" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kAzmhLHePqU/mqdefault.jpg)
Every one of those videos with the title of; "What Atheists Can't Explain" (and the variations on it), really should just be titled; "Things I don't Understand, That I Credit to God"
I am thinking about doing a short that says something like "Christians can't explain why their god exists without resorting to one of the 3 pillars of Christain Apologetics that disqualifies their argument."
"Things I don't Understand, and can't be bothered to learn about."
But in this case I can't even figure how they would be explained in a way that involves God.
Maybe Catholics understand boredom more than atheists because church is so boring, though.
I'm a professional technical writer, and my job is entirely based on distilling complex information into simple, precise terms. Let me just say your very clear style makes me happy, and you do an excellent job concisely presenting arguments. Now if only apologists would address the actual arguments instead of play word games with vague definitions.
That means a lot to me. Thank you so much for the compliment!
It is good to know I am doing something right!
This whole thing is baffling. "Atheists can't explain why songs" "Atheists can't explain know things" "ATHEISTS CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY I DON'T FIND MY WIFE ATTRACTIVE. CHECKMATE ATHEISTS". This feels less like a "God good" video and more like a mid-life crisis.
Also, I tend to have the opposite reaction to music. The more I hear a song, particularly one I like, the more I get that dopamine hit.
I think there are a lot of people that are afraid of learning things that go against their beliefs.
Terrified they were wrong 🤣 so they invent evidence to support their erroneous claim.
That's true of almost everyone, theist and atheist.
@@TheSkyGuy77 is it though? The side with the research papers seems pretty hard up to find just what is objectively true; if you say they're lying it's sorta on you for ignoring evidence
"atheists can't explain (x)"
Theists can't explain why their god is the objectively correct one without resorting to logical fallacies.
Since I keep seeing theists' shorts about how "atheists can't explain x," I should make a short about this! I wonder if that would reach people.
“HUMAN BEINGS MAKE LIFE SO INTERESTING. DO YOU KNOW, THAT IN A UNIVERSE SO FULL OF WONDERS, THEY HAVE MANAGED TO INVENT BOREDOM.”
― Terry Pratchett, Hogfather (All caps because Death speaks in all caps)
I love this!
So many parents would love it if the diminished response through repetition worked on young children.
Point one: I agree with what you say, with one caveat. When I hear Killing In The Name by Rage Against The Machine, it still excites me in exactly the same way as the first time that I heard it, and I remember very well the first time I heard it!
Point two: I have personally met a fairly large number of people who absolutely do not want to learn anything new at all, in fact they vigorously resist it. So much for an 'insatiable appetite' for the infinite.
Word three: Er, boredom? Really? That0's the hill you're going to die on?
Leaving all that aside, even if we can't explain any of these things, how does this prove that atheism is wrong and religion is right? All it means is that, at this time in history, we can't explain these concepts. That's all. What an idiot.
You get it!
A+
I've played a guitar and have written down the chords and lyrics of many a song writer.
There is a difference between listening to music and actually playing it. An insight is gained playing a composer's music. It's not religious. It's more of an experience. Like reading a book and interpreting the author's meaning. Interpreting the aesthetic makes us human without the need for an overseeing authority.
The only thing I can't explain is why so many theists think we can't answer simple questions that have been answered for decades.
Arrogance. Boom! I have successfully explained all there is in the world! I'm ready to leap now, Al!
Atheists/atheism can't explain boredom...therefore....God? I guess?
That is exactly what I thought he was trying to say!!!!
At a minimum each time you hear a song, it changes your brain a little bit. As such, you would fully expect us to experience the song differently each time because *you are different each time* .
My point exactly!
@@darkofalltrades and worse, *everything else you’ve experienced* has changed you as well!
This one is rather like suggesting that it hard to understand why a river never floods the same way twice, when each flood carves a different course for the river.
It's a reverse appeal to authority: since he doesn't know, nobody can know. At least without God.
I would LOVE to see the actual connection he is implying in the video.
Saying that there are any facts that require explanation or there’s somehow a god is totally smuggling in their conclusion. A concept of a panacea isn’t even a candidate explanation for anything.
Exactly!
Before we can consider a god an option, we need to show that the god is even possible. We need to justify why we are ruling IN the idea before we do.
You are criminally under-subscribed.
I appreciate this!
I'd like to reach more people as well!
As always with "Atheists can't explain" i would love to see them EXPLAIN the same thing, and remind them that "God did it" is not an explanation but an assertion bare from evidence.
That is basically why I made the title image like I did.
I want them to answer what caused or created god without them using special pleading & saying but but God just is or whatever nonsense.
Sciences have the explanation to his questions. But him as a theist, does he have reasonable and intelligent explanation to them? I have doubts. Thanks Dark.
You are asking the right questions.
Thank you!
Atheism has nothing to do with any of those things, nor does i attempt to do so. The ultimate question for apologists should be, "what is atheism". I've yet to see one answer this question honestly or correctly...
You are spot on.
I've heard a few answer the question "What is an atheist?" correctly, but then they somehow try to either shift the burden of proof, or attribute something to atheism that they JUST defined, such as "then you have to believe that a god DIDN'T create the universe."
It does get pretty frustrating.
The second a theist starts talking by twisting the meaning of atheist I know they're not arguing in good faith.
Curiosity is not just a homo sapiens thing. The other great apes also show curiosity and the ability to pass on knowledge to other members of their species to some extent.
How do you explain what’s called a “Road Warrior Pop”. It’s a wrestling term. It describes a well loved wrestler returning. His music hits, he shows up and the crowd roars. The best example is the “glass shattering” and the crowd loses their minds before StoneCold even shows up
I love this question, and I am willing to go deeper into it if you'd like. For now I'll try to keep it brief.
The idea is that your brain is different. The glass shatter for Stone Cold. The gong for the Undertaker. The flames exploding for Kane. All of these sudden sounds lead to the arrival of someone they like to do something they came to see. It is the anticipation leading to the outcome they have been wanting for.
And! Every time it happens, the memory of the last time makes the feelings of how AWESOME it was come flooding back. It is an association with the awesome memory.
I think he said 'and one more, boredom' or something similar
I'll double check the transcript.
I love your channel.
Thank you so much! That means a lot to me ^_^
I think the theist said or meant to say "In one word...", not "And one word...". With that said I think I have never seen such a clear example of a theist not doing research before claiming that atheists can't answer some questions, it's like he does not know and can't imagine that research on the brain is a thing.
I think people on the autism spectrum feel differently about music, movies, etc. We always feel overstimulated, so we don’t want things that are new, we want old comforts. It’s rare I can bring myself to watch a new movie or listen to a new artist. I just want to enjoy the things I already love.
I can get behind this as someone on the spectrum. I definitely love what I love, and I frequently don't want new music. I do get an itch if I already have an artist I really like, to listen to their new stuff, and the artists they collaborate with, which leads me to finding new artists I like.
I worked in a sub shop for years that played the same classic rock playlist over and over. I can't listen to the original Pink Floyd version of "Money" anymore :/
I worked at Lowe's for years and somehow have yet to get bored with David Bowie's TVC15. Which isn't even that great a song for Bowie.
First point just proves how stupid theists are in general, does this guy really think atheism is SOMEHOW a theory of the mind? Or something related to neuroscience? Just as ridiculous as saying electrical engineering is wrong because it doesn't explain why we are afraid of lightnings
I suppose he thinks that atheism lacks explanation for how humans think _because he foundationally believes that souls are the source of human thought._
i.e.: If anyone does not believe that we are meat puppets being controlled by an immaterial entity, then they have no explanation for why we feel feelings.
Wait a sec, if "atheists/atheism" can't explain the boredom, then what does?
Is ThinkCat implying that gawd gives people boredom? And could such a boredom also be experienced in his/their afterlife as well?
I'll take a wild stab in the dark. He was going to say (if pressed) that boredom is a signal from God that it's time to get down on your knees and pray. Pray to be filled with the infinite! Pray to be flooded with the Lord! Pray to be covered in God's love!
@@RichWoods23 eww lol
(As I think I heard Viced Rhino say)
Is it better to be covered in god's love or to let him come inside you?
@@darkofalltrades Only with consent to either of those. As an Ace, I do NOT consent!
@@darkofalltrades😂
What was the meme you meant to put at the end, did I miss it?
Omniman telling him "THINK, CATHOLIC! THINK!"
The meme is originally called "Think Mark Think." @CookiesRiot has it right!
Ooookay, but I still enjoy listening to 'Exile on Main Street', all through, every few months, and loving every song. There are other albums, individual songs, and books and paintings, too. Boredom may be the default response to repeated exposure to a given stimulus, but it's not the only one. Not sure how this is an evolutionary adaptation; maybe some things are too important... Like the Stones? Hmm...
"the insatiable appetite for the infinite" what in the world?😂
And it's ironic because even asking the question while being fundamentally opposed to learning anything shows just how disingenuous he's being.
and 1 thing theists cannot explain:
the g0d... thingie.
not a wizard, not a mage, not a force, not a ghost, not anything. The g0d is the g0d, because the g0d.
Yep, the bitter truth about the music industry. The songs that you never heard before will sound better than the ones you bought and listen to, wasting your precious money and time. And when you hear them, enjoy them and buy them, it will happen again and again and again...
Repeated experiences - How would that even prove a god or gods? Why would an all loving god make me bored of seeing the same person I enjoy seeing over and over again, putting a long terms train on a monogamous relationship?
Appetite for the infinite - Why would an all loving god give me an appetite that, by definition, cannot be sated? That sounds more like torture.
Boredom - lolwut. God exists because we get bored? How is that even different from the "appetite for the infinite" argument.
Sorry, this entire argument is a logically incoherent argument from personal incredulity.
How are any of them different?
Fundamentally, he just said:
1. We want new experiences instead of the same thing every time, therefore God.
2. We want new experiences instead of the same thing every time, therefore God.
3. We want new experiences instead of the same thing every time, therefore God.
You are asking the right questions here!
@CookiesRiot, EXACTLY!!!
good video.
Thanks!
"Think catholic".
An ironic name.
Hence the meme.
@@darkofalltrades I had a dream last night where someone said that believers had been catfished by the ignorant, deeply flawed men who made these gods up.
I had never thought of it like that before.
I don't get what his point was?
it's probably the most muddled argument against Atheism I've seen to date.
I was expecting to see him switch to we're attracted to the infinite because gawd.
Obviously I can't surmise this with certainty, but I wouldn't be surprised if he believes that "souls" are what drives human cognition (especially emotions), and therefore anyone who doesn't believe in souls cannot adequately explain why humans like and don't like things.
I think he needs to at least establish how those questions are even relevant to religion.
And of course it's rather pointless to point out questions someone else can't answer if he never does.
I checked his comments, and when someone asks him a question, he seems to reply with something like "thank you for watching the video" and not respond. Which I can see why he wouldn't, but I think it leads to him just saying things and not having the conversation.
@@darkofalltrades Hmm, that sounds suspiciously like someone focused on generating engagement through controversy, rather than them looking to promote discourse and understanding.
It would be too much to expect for him to fully engage with all comments. But some effort to establish his own position, could at least make his content meaningful.
One thing this atheist can't explain is "what is his point?" He doesn't state why theism does explain these things (beyond "goddidit").
My guess - and this is technically just a guess, since he doesn't actually offer his explanation - is that theism explains it with souls.
Explain boredom in one word? Theism. Yawn!
Im an ex atheist
What made you an ex atheist?
@@darkofalltrades I don't know
You don't know??@@PaulYates-nf7vx
@@PaulYates-nf7vx?
According to Camus, this choice, committing philosophical suicide by taking a leap of faith, is the most common human response to confronting our mortality.
Accepting naturalism involves processing a lot of bad news, and we as mildly erudite beasts are ill equipped to come to terms with it all.
I was expecting the meme to be a reminder of the catholic church being a piece of garbage organization. But the invincible meme was just silly fun dont be ashamed of silly fun.
Every now and again, I have to have a little fun, or else every time I respond to a catholic, I'll get angry at them for exactly this.
Yet another car video ? Did his wife drive him out the house for being insufferable ? That's how I see him.
Yet another argument from ignorance fallacy.
I was shocked, SHOCKED I tell you. See my avatar...that is my shocked face.
People have a desire to learn more, except for the religious. God did it. No more knowledge needed AND in fact new knowledge is baf
Me watching or listening to something I love for the first time: 🙂🥲
Me watching or listening to something I love for the 2nd-10000th time: 😭😻🥳
Guess I'm just weird
Though you are probably demonstrating the point in a different way. Your brain is different every time you hear it.
The dumbest thing ever in the history of dumbness is thinking the universe is possible without God
Not as dumb as thinking that a vague and lazy ad hominem counts as evidence LOL
The Kalam Cosmological Argument doesn't require a god. Low-bar Bill doesn't think that, but neither his nor your incredulity affect reality.
I know. The Big Bang started as a spark from Thor’s hammer. Ours is not the only universe Thor created. Hence the multiverse. 😐
So where was this "god" hanging out before he created his place?
Except the thing about the universe is that it is clearly possible without God. Maybe God used natural processes to create it, but the fact remains that natural processes perfectly explain everything about the universe that we've learned so far. The more we learn, the less necessary God even becomes in explaining it.