Spider-Man 4 in the MCU just got some HUGE info released regarding venom and the symbiote! Here’s all My best theories for how it will be played in the movie #mcu #spiderman #venom
I hope this movie is street-level because then, Kingpin will send Mac Gargan/Scorpion to kill Spider-Man, on the way he gets the Venom symbiote (just like the comics; probably after Peter gets it off), thus becoming the main villain of the film
I imagine that THE Venom will probably be Mac Gargan. They already set him up to be Scorpion but when we saw him he didn’t have the suit yet so they could just skip Scorpion and make him Venom. I think what’d be cool, is if we have Spider-Man fighting a crime boss in 4, which I’d like to be Mr. Negative. Fisk will be the big bad of everything street level, but in Spider-Man’s individual movies I wanna focus on new characters not done in live action. And with the connection to FEAST and May, Mr. Negative has the rare opportunity to become the new mentor role to him. I imagine Secret Wars will happen before Spider-Man 5. So in Spider-Man 5, he will probably have the Black Suit and bring it back from BattleWorld. But this is also supposed to be the 2015 Secret Wars where the Multiverse is destroyed and the main reality is sewn back together to include others from separate realities. I would be able to see Spider-Man changing after if it’s a whole new universe and we get a 4th Spider-Man. But if we do keep the same Spider-Man in Tom Holland, he will likely come back from Secret Wars with the black suit like the 1984 interpretation. In which I would like to see Spider-Man team up with Eddie Brock, a reporter for the Daily Globe. And adapt “who killed Jean DeWolff?” for Spider-Man 5 with a mystery whodunnit, around Sin Eater. We will see Venom formed and call for revenge. In Number 6, we could have Tombstone and Venom recruit the others to form the Sinister Six, with Venom as the leader. But throughout the movie and different one on ones that Spider-Man and Venom have, Venom will forgive Spider-Man and save him from the Sinister Six. The movie would end with another kid in Peter’s class and living in his same apartment building, maybe seen throughout the trilogy, get bit by a radioactive Spider. The post credit scenes for this would have Venom move to San Francisco setting a lethal protector film, and the second would have the Sinister Six meet with Tombstone, who gives them a new leader to replace Venom with Hobgoblin. Setting up a Sinister Six Antihero movie.
I think Peter already knows Norman Osborn himself isn’t an evil or all bad guy he just happens to be a very sympathetic guy who happens to have the worst case of multiple personality disorder.
I think they should keep Eddie Brock as Venom, but change the actor & they also need to finally honour & respect this character from the comics that will soon be in the MCU.
I think The MJ theory could work well, hear me out. The symbiote attaches to Peter which during the lowest point of his life gives him a confidence boost to take being a crime fighter more where he meets Black Cat. Black Cat entices Peter to continue with crime fighting and doing what he wants, but he starts remembering his time with MJ and the Avengers. The symbiote sees these memories and learns about what happened in No Way Home. The symbiote then tries to repress feelings of heroism to manipulate Peter, but Peter manages to overcome them with the memories of MJ and sticking to his ideals from Aunt May. This leads to Peter rejecting the symbiote (as usual) and the symbiote gets away. Now that the symbiote has the memories of MJ and Black Cat, the symbiote seeks out MJ and attaches to her. It then manipulates her with the memories of No Way Home and Peter's promise to find them (MJ and Ned) AND his new relationship with Black Cat. MJ is then manipulated to feel betrayed and gives in to the symbiote more than Peter and we get Scream. I know we all want Venom but I think with the situation Peter is in and with the events of No Way Home, this could be a Great way of applying cause and effect to the events of the previous movie. although you could argue that they should try and stick to a more "Fresh Start" vibe from No Way Home.
They should have alan richardson playing the role of eddie brock and emma myers playing the role of gwen stacy and alexa demi playing the role of black-cat
I wanna see Pete have venom for both 4 and 5 but have him go way too far and after beating whoever the villain of 5 is he takes it off and then we get venom
Hear me out: we should get a more comic-accurate symbiote story. In the original story, he gets it during Secret Wars and thinks it’s some kind of high-tech suit. It also gives him organic webbing and *doesn’t affect his personality*! If they go this route it would be unpredictable and would actually do something new with the symbiote story instead of recycling the tropes into Bully Holland.
I like option 6, but, I want MJ to kind of become scream so she can get the knowledge. Then we can have MJ have arguments with Peter. Then Peter with venom, I think creating the the perfect set up.
what if it’s ned? in all the other movies Spider-Man‘s best friend always turns against him usually has green goblin though but maybe in this version ned turns against peter as venom.
I think of flash or new eddie brock But question is everytime venom left his a part in somewhere a different symbiote has appeared Like Scream Lasher Carnage Agony etc So which kind symbiote maybe Peter will get?
Ok so this is what i got spiderman 4 peter gets the symbiote like u said. He keeps it and simply its like a normal suit for him. In the comics before secret wars peter winds up getting the black suit anyway so im thinking spiderman 4 he gets the suit introduce a villain like kingpin or even maybe scorpion. And maybe end it where a rift in space and time where then miles morales comes out which will lead to secret wars. Wild ik but thats what i think is the best way to do this
I think that Venom the Last Dance would have a post credits scene where he might go through a multiverse portal and spend spider-man 4 trying to get home and Peter might try and help Venom until the symbio thinks he’s gone to soft and he takes the host of Flash Thompson and Peter and Eddie try and find out who is the new host and they have an epic final battle and MJ dies in the crossfire without remembering who Spider-Man really is. That’s just what I think though
I know many people might disagree. But it might be Tom Hardy’s venom. Sony has been trying to get hardy up against hollands Spider-Man since Venom1. And venom 3 is being rumored to have multiverse elements and I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends with hardy himself being transported back into the MCU permanently this time. On top of all that. As much as I believe Mac gargan venom would be the ideal choice for an MCU venom, hardy himself has said he considers facing Tom hollands Spider-Man the “gold medal” in the Olympics in the Spider-Man universe movies.
Okay I’m definitely in the minority but I like the idea of mj getting the symbyote and like keeping a little bit so she can help better okay now feel free to tell me why that’s such a bad idea
I don't care who is venom we just need a we are venom line
The real venom was the friends we made along the way
I love the part where Venom said "It's venomin time" and venomed all over
@@Icy-Freezer160She we on my are until I Venom
Idrc how plays Venom I just want those 19 inches of Venom
The little piece of venom at the end of No Way Home would definitely lead to Peter getting the symbiote
The idea you said with him keeping venom for at least 1 movie is a great idea
Sydney Sweeney as Black Cat
I just cannot picture Tom holland rizzing up Sydney Sweeney 😭
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fuck no
They should have alexa demi playing the role of black-cat
@@IbrahimKhan-176frick yess
I hope this movie is street-level because then, Kingpin will send Mac Gargan/Scorpion to kill Spider-Man, on the way he gets the Venom symbiote (just like the comics; probably after Peter gets it off), thus becoming the main villain of the film
I ALWAYS SAID THIS!!
I said this 2 days ago and I theorized it after rewatching NWH on digital in 2022
Mac gargan was introduced in homecoming and was a host was the comics
Would be dope if they finally used him since they got a great actor for him
Sadly we can’t truly have the Osbornes because in No way home Norman says Osceola doesn’t exist in this universe
What If They Make It A New Company
We’ve already had 4 Spider-Man movies with the Osborns so I’m alright with not seeing them again for a while.
The MJ-theory sounds great.
I imagine that THE Venom will probably be Mac Gargan. They already set him up to be Scorpion but when we saw him he didn’t have the suit yet so they could just skip Scorpion and make him Venom.
I think what’d be cool, is if we have Spider-Man fighting a crime boss in 4, which I’d like to be Mr. Negative. Fisk will be the big bad of everything street level, but in Spider-Man’s individual movies I wanna focus on new characters not done in live action. And with the connection to FEAST and May, Mr. Negative has the rare opportunity to become the new mentor role to him.
I imagine Secret Wars will happen before Spider-Man 5. So in Spider-Man 5, he will probably have the Black Suit and bring it back from BattleWorld. But this is also supposed to be the 2015 Secret Wars where the Multiverse is destroyed and the main reality is sewn back together to include others from separate realities. I would be able to see Spider-Man changing after if it’s a whole new universe and we get a 4th Spider-Man. But if we do keep the same Spider-Man in Tom Holland, he will likely come back from Secret Wars with the black suit like the 1984 interpretation. In which I would like to see Spider-Man team up with Eddie Brock, a reporter for the Daily Globe. And adapt “who killed Jean DeWolff?” for Spider-Man 5 with a mystery whodunnit, around Sin Eater. We will see Venom formed and call for revenge.
In Number 6, we could have Tombstone and Venom recruit the others to form the Sinister Six, with Venom as the leader. But throughout the movie and different one on ones that Spider-Man and Venom have, Venom will forgive Spider-Man and save him from the Sinister Six. The movie would end with another kid in Peter’s class and living in his same apartment building, maybe seen throughout the trilogy, get bit by a radioactive Spider. The post credit scenes for this would have Venom move to San Francisco setting a lethal protector film, and the second would have the Sinister Six meet with Tombstone, who gives them a new leader to replace Venom with Hobgoblin. Setting up a Sinister Six Antihero movie.
These are some great ideas ngl
I think Peter already knows Norman Osborn himself isn’t an evil or all bad guy he just happens to be a very sympathetic guy who happens to have the worst case of multiple personality disorder.
I think they should keep Eddie Brock as Venom, but change the actor & they also need to finally honour & respect this character from the comics that will soon be in the MCU.
I think The MJ theory could work well, hear me out. The symbiote attaches to Peter which during the lowest point of his life gives him a confidence boost to take being a crime fighter more where he meets Black Cat. Black Cat entices Peter to continue with crime fighting and doing what he wants, but he starts remembering his time with MJ and the Avengers. The symbiote sees these memories and learns about what happened in No Way Home. The symbiote then tries to repress feelings of heroism to manipulate Peter, but Peter manages to overcome them with the memories of MJ and sticking to his ideals from Aunt May. This leads to Peter rejecting the symbiote (as usual) and the symbiote gets away. Now that the symbiote has the memories of MJ and Black Cat, the symbiote seeks out MJ and attaches to her. It then manipulates her with the memories of No Way Home and Peter's promise to find them (MJ and Ned) AND his new relationship with Black Cat. MJ is then manipulated to feel betrayed and gives in to the symbiote more than Peter and we get Scream.
I know we all want Venom but I think with the situation Peter is in and with the events of No Way Home, this could be a Great way of applying cause and effect to the events of the previous movie. although you could argue that they should try and stick to a more "Fresh Start" vibe from No Way Home.
You can't trust Marvel with their own characters anymore. The Hardy movies are just awefull ❤
I liked the first venom ngl. It’s kinda garbage but still fun
I bet if they bring in Harry Osborn they'll give him and his father a different name like they did with MJ
Yeah true they could do that
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They should have alan richardson playing the role of eddie brock and emma myers playing the role of gwen stacy and alexa demi playing the role of black-cat
I wanna see Pete have venom for both 4 and 5 but have him go way too far and after beating whoever the villain of 5 is he takes it off and then we get venom
Would be dope
If they do venom they could do a different route where venom and spiderman work together in the same body
Norman Osborn said no way home that Harry doesn’t exist in the MCU
I wonder if who is gonna get the 19 inches
*I WISH TOM HARDY COULD BE THERE*
Timothy as Harry would go hard
💯
I don't who in earth thought Timothee Chalamet would be a good Harry Osborn 💀
He’s just the common fan cast but I don’t see him doing it he’ll probably stay away from superhero movies. Especially as a side character
Mac gargan will be scorpion. He will be main villain and become venom.
I could see it
It’s not a big deal but Harry doesn’t turn into Venom in the comics and Eddie doesn’t work at the daily bugle he works at the daily globe.
Hear me out: we should get a more comic-accurate symbiote story. In the original story, he gets it during Secret Wars and thinks it’s some kind of high-tech suit. It also gives him organic webbing and *doesn’t affect his personality*! If they go this route it would be unpredictable and would actually do something new with the symbiote story instead of recycling the tropes into Bully Holland.
Flash Thompson would be become Agent Venom in the MCU
I think that Ned could get the symbiote, and he uses the symbiote and stolen Stark tech to become: Hobgoblin!
I like option 6, but, I want MJ to kind of become scream so she can get the knowledge. Then we can have MJ have arguments with Peter. Then Peter with venom, I think creating the the perfect set up.
Peter should keep symbiote for secret wars like the comics and he will lose it like maybe before the final battle or in the middle of the movie
I THINK IT SHOULD BE A NEW VENOM🔥🔥🔥🔥
I Think It’s Going To Be Scorpion cause Mac gargen does gets the symbiote In The Comic’s So i Hope It Happens in MCU Spider-man 6
Would be dope for sure 💯
what if it’s ned? in all the other movies Spider-Man‘s best friend always turns against him usually has green goblin though but maybe in this version ned turns against peter as venom.
I think of flash or new eddie brock
But question is everytime venom left his a part in somewhere a different symbiote has appeared
Like
Scream
Lasher
Carnage
Agony etc
So which kind symbiote maybe Peter will get?
Ok so this is what i got spiderman 4 peter gets the symbiote like u said. He keeps it and simply its like a normal suit for him. In the comics before secret wars peter winds up getting the black suit anyway so im thinking spiderman 4 he gets the suit introduce a villain like kingpin or even maybe scorpion. And maybe end it where a rift in space and time where then miles morales comes out which will lead to secret wars. Wild ik but thats what i think is the best way to do this
I hope Venom is Mac gargan
Would be dope since the mcu forgot he existed
HELL NO
IDC whoelse is in this movie. Just give me Felicia hardy as black cat.
W take
Mj would be class
Chalamet would KILL the venom role. MARVEL PLEASE
Or it could be Mac Gargan.
Bro just spoiled that harry will be venom in the game
The game is a year old tho
It's been a whole year since the game came out if you still didn't know that's on you
@@D.The1st not everyone is able to buy a ps5 im waiting for the game to come to pc
No offense but all the ideas are terrible. It’s way too early for the symbiote. They should introduce the symbiote no earlier than Secret Wars.
Wow
Peter Parker
Indeed
This didn’t age well 😔
I think that Venom the Last Dance would have a post credits scene where he might go through a multiverse portal and spend spider-man 4 trying to get home and Peter might try and help Venom until the symbio thinks he’s gone to soft and he takes the host of Flash Thompson and Peter and Eddie try and find out who is the new host and they have an epic final battle and MJ dies in the crossfire without remembering who Spider-Man really is.
That’s just what I think though
Liar it's gonna be scorpion
Wow 3 minutes ago...
Sydney Sweeney as Black Cat
Only if she gets a comic accurate suit
Her or Anya Taylor Joy would be dope
The only person who I feel like should become venom is Norman Osborn
Could be dope
I think it should be scorpion
I know many people might disagree. But it might be Tom Hardy’s venom. Sony has been trying to get hardy up against hollands Spider-Man since Venom1. And venom 3 is being rumored to have multiverse elements and I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends with hardy himself being transported back into the MCU permanently this time. On top of all that. As much as I believe Mac gargan venom would be the ideal choice for an MCU venom, hardy himself has said he considers facing Tom hollands Spider-Man the “gold medal” in the Olympics in the Spider-Man universe movies.
Yeah I think Hardy is a lot more likely than people are giving credit for
Okay I’m definitely in the minority but I like the idea of mj getting the symbyote and like keeping a little bit so she can help better okay now feel free to tell me why that’s such a bad idea