What fascinates me (as a ‘POC’ who doesn’t live in the west, but has previously spent time in the west for education) is that a so-called ‘white’ person can claim native/indigenous/aboriginal/black identity based on 1% genes (even if they are entirely white in their appearance - blonde/blue eyes etc.) and even be accepted as such by a large enough section of society, but, on the other side, a black or dark skinned individual (with an entirely and obviously ‘non-white’ appearance) with 1% European genes would never ever be able to get away with claiming that they were ‘white’. It seems like the ‘one-drop rule’ is being kept alive and well by this double standard.
Absolutely. The “1 drop” rules from as far back as the 1600’s to as recent as 1924 Racial Integrity Act in America looms large even to this today. I identify as “Black” and even with 1/3 of my ancestry being from Europe and 1/10th from Native American, I’m not “allowed” to claim “I”m European” or “Native American.” However, as I mentioned in another post, Elizabeth Warren (US College professor/ Politician) claimed for DECADES to be Native American minority at numerous collegiate stints in undergraduate, graduate and as a tenured professor. She never had to show documentation to prove her native ancestry. EVER. Esteemed universities like Rutgers, UPenn, Harvard just took her word for it. For years she styled her hair how a Native American woman would stereotypically part their hair in the middle, with hair to the sides behind her ears. Only when Donald Trump called her “Pocahontas” and challenged her ethnicity did we find out Elizabeth was 0.098% Native American, and over 90% European. When she was 69. She enjoyed the benefits of calling herself a “minority”, even when she’s clearly of European descent. But the impression that is still buried in the American subconscious is that “Black Blood” taints or corrupts any other “pure” Blood. So if you’re 88% white and 12% Black…by the letter of the law, you’re Black. And it has spilled into Black American subconsciousness as well. Where there used to be clubs called “Blue Bloods” where only light-skinned Blacks were allowed, if the “blue” could be seen in your veins. It’s baffling how we’re okay with people changing genders, pronouns, how they identify and Society is supposed to fully accept it. But allow Black people to have ethnic context just as Whites, society is like, _”Whoooooaaaaaa, you’re talking crazy, son! That’s crazy talk!”_
Is it the government that keeps it alive or social circles? I'm thinking a little bit of a and B you're right though the bar is high for who will consider "white".
Colourism is at play here. I think they realised that their identity within whiteness doesn't give them any special advantage. But if they become some other identity outside whiteness then their fairer complexion so proximity to whiteness mixed with this new exotic identity gives them an advantage.
@@nytn Academic arenas are just as racist as the average group of whites. They too have been indoctrinated with the idea of white supremacy these are just very average white women who seek to be above average and use this to get that recognition.
Sir, I see you are wearing a European/English suit... am I supposed to say you are stealing my culture to fit in and be successful in the white culture? I don't think I'd say that, or even think that. This all needs to go away... best wishes!!
This is a good sign, black people have been ashamed for so long of who we are and now this paradigm shift where others want to be us should make us feeling proud.
As 1st generation American on my mother's side, culture has always been very important to me. I've always had friends from all over and my now 29 year old daughter has followed suit. When I was growing up white meant WASP. Older people will remember the uproar when JFK, an Irish Catholic, was elected president. Many of the people we now view as white weren't considered as such just a few decades ago. For those who feel lost, I believe it's important to reclaim ones culture. There's pride to be found in that without feeling that can only be done by claiming another's culture.
Exactly Panama rose! I'm a second-generation Sicilian who grew up in NYC in the 1970's we did not identify as white!!! Like you said, whites were WASP's.
@@nicklucca7570 Has it all boiled down to skin colour then? A Jew or a Muslim or a person from Eastern Europe is supposed to say, "White", when asked skin colour and not demand to write down Jewish or Muslim or Ukrainian Orthodox or whatever?
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“Pretenians” really blow my mind. My grandfather was “100%” Indigenous but because he didn’t raise my mother in his peoples culture my mother refuses to claim native heritage for any other reason than if someone asks her what her ethnicity is. My mother has many visible “Native American traits” but still calls herself white because that’s how she grew up. I’m on a journey to learn more about my grandfathers culture and honestly it is very uncomfortable sometimes because the last thing I want to come off as is a want a be pretendian. My cousins are much more connected to our native culture and it makes for an interesting personal cultural experience. These people who fake a cultural identity mystify me. I mean….I’m technically a quarter native and I’m hesitant to say so out of cultural sensitivity….I couldn’t imagine being 0% something but saying I was.
I can relate. But my history is so scattered because my great grandmother and her children left and we're travelers in the early 1900' s. So many questions that many people wanted to bury. But I am happy I had a father like I did that was raised by a beautiful mother with native roots.
@@purplespeckledappleeater8738 Exactly…my grandfather took my mom to meet his grandmother on the reservation only once. My mom said she can’t remember much but for some reason he never took her back.
I'm in a similar boat, a little more removed. Only a couple of people have been nasty about my own mild reclamation, but they don't know me nor want to. Complete strangers. So I see it has to do with when people know the context of the actions, because the people in my life who do have been respectful. The process also did a part in showing me discrimination firsthand in some situations, even for somebody white passing. So many more nuances were opened up that I think a ton more people need to get a grip of their ancestry.
I struggled with this for years. I grew up with European parents but looked like a POC and no one believed me when I said I was 100% European. I always had to dance around my ethnicity because of this. Turns out I actually am half African American (found out via Ancestry and confirmed with 23andMe) and have 40% African DNA which explains my appearance. I was always very careful not to color an identity that wasn’t rightfully mine. Even now, I don’t know exactly how to identify myself.
@@deemari577 both parents did. My dad wasn’t my biological father because they used a sperm donor. The doctor did not use the right donor and my parents stuck with their original plan to keep the whole thing a secret - even when asked why I don’t look like the family.
I have compared notes with other people who have taken DNA tests, and I would say that having 40% African DNA means that you likely have at least some visible African features. Based on the story you have shared, I can understand why you are unsure about how to identify yourself, however, as your life story sounds complicated. But you can't stop the journey you have begun and I hope you will learn how to be more comfortable being just the way you are. I know other people who do not look like their supposed ethnic/racial identity because their parents used a sperm donor. My guess is, we will hear more stories like this as time goes on, and as people seek to make sense of their DNA and their official identity. BTW, I have struggled with similar identity issues for years, and there's a difference between frauds who claim to be something they are not, and those of us who may have have mixed ancestry or who may not have grown up part of a specific culture that is nonetheless part of our DNA. In the end, though, we are all human beings from this earth and we just have to know that we all belong, without feeling the need to trespass on other people's territory.
@@TheLauren1113 Oh my! I'm so sorry you had to go thru that. Can u imagine how many people are living in fear knowing they could be "found out" thru the DNA tests so available because of not telling the truth? Be well, take care 👍🏽
Hey Mt first daughter is named Rachael, spelled a little different. I love your videos, I'm white ,my parents were born in Naples and I was born in America. My upbringing growing up in a Italian culture and traditions. Why people would lie about who they are ridiculous ❤
@@nytn I really enjoy and appreciate what you're doing with your channel. I would love it if maybe one day I could share my great-grand mother's experience with coming from the Caribbean and passing for white and how I was able to reconnect with that part of my family. It's a real doozie of a story!
When I went to the hospital to have a procedure, the pre-op nurse handed me a paper to fill out. After my name, DOB, and gender, the next question was race. I wrote "HUMAN". Anything else is BS.
@@nytn The nurse asked me why I wrote Human? I told her, "That is what I am". She asked ( judging me by appearance ), "Aren't you white?" I answered "Yes". She asked me if I was ashamed of being white and I answered, "NO, but I'm not proud of it anymore than I am proud of having 10 fingers and 10 toes. I'm only proud of what I accomplish or what positive differences I've made." I really pissed her off when I said that I wasn't proud of being American, because it was just where my parents gave birth to me.
@@FreddieVee If I get to write something in, I put "Displaced Edenic Peoples" because it sounds so ethnic and specific but it really is NOT either one lol
For what it's worth, there are certain medical things where race matters. I know on one blood panel I had, the test results were run differently based upon whether or not you were black or white. The two races had a different acceptable range for doctors to use based upon genetics. There are also rare blood subtypes that can matter when it comes to blood transfusions.
@@KatieBellino but... most American black people are mixed and nowhere near so dark as African black people. Do they just run it as halvsies or figure black is black enough?
These are examples of people who have unfortunately been brainwashed by modern day social media and lacked the proper upbringing to be confident of being who they are naturally. Gatekeepers are definitely a red flag. As someone with Hispanic ancestry from the Caribbean I am aware of my admixture and I leave it as that. Identifying with Black and White labels is alien to me and my family back on the islands generally speaking. Many of us understand it is a modern concept here in the US amongst the history with Anglo Americans and African Americans that we refuse to be dragged into. Be proud of who you are, know your roots is good enough without seeking validation from anybody. I know many people of the Southern European diaspora see it that way as well due to the history of them trying to box Italians descendents into racial white and black caterogorys.
You know it's totally fine if you love a culture and want to be more like them or to join them. You don't have to pretend that you are one of them to be apart of there community. That's the part that I don't get. In all these cases you could have come up to a cultural or racial group and expressed how much you like them and want to learn and be with them. Most people love it when someone is interested in them.
I think that they got job benefits by pretending. So that's why they faked it. When I was a child I wanted to be Native American. I read idealized books about Native people. I thought that they treated their children better (my white parents were abusive). I thought their religion was superior (which are actually many religions). I understand wanting to be something else. I think that learning about Celtic culture (which is part of my heritage) has helped me to accept what I am. But a perceived lack of culture does not excuse faking another culture.
thats because guilt tripping people is a thing in the modern day so some people guilt trip others so they feel so guilty about being this because of that and so they do a DNA test and see 1 % or 5 % this
your analysis of "why" some of these people may be pretending i.e. in order to have an actual "culture" (not just "white american") is pretty sharp/interesting
Moral of the story is that everyone is looking for clout based on their chosen interface with society. Everyone is looking for love and belonging and meaning.
Looking for love and meaning doesn;t have to entail identity fraud. These raceshifters do real harm to actual Indigenous communities by taking our jobs and misrepresenting the cultures they claim to belong to. This is the ultimate form of colonialism.
We can add to this that being a specific ethnicity also embraces other factors: growing up in that culture, knowing the language, not just being born in that country or having physical traits. It’s so many layers into it. I've seen many people who are born in a different country but never grew up there and consequently don't know the language or take pride in those culture values. I think a person is also from where they were raised. Example, I took my DNA test. I am so many things: Native American, Mexican, Spanish, Italian, North & South East African, Lavantine, Arab, Persian, etc. But I don't speak or hold all of these culture because I didn't grow up in these countries. I only hold on to my Mexican and American herheritage (aka not the chicano culture, that's a different subculture).
They don't just hurt the culture that they appropriate, but they cheat their own ancestors. Not only that, but they cause loss of opportunity for those of these 'vultured' cultures (I like that phrase that you came up with). Thanks for sharing or I otherwise would not have known that this is a (sad) thing.
All of these women featured in this video all have Sub Saharan African physical attributes. So many racist 'white' folks walking around in America with hatred for black people and aren't even aware their great great grand pappy was a slave.
First comment! Keep up the great work. I think America has a really outdated idea of what is white. Middle East and North Africa are lumped in as white in the US regardless of your skin color
My theory is that people like this feel empowered when they take on a new identity. Which means that they started out feeling unempowered. We need to make it so everyone feels empowered and doesn't have to pretend to be something they're not.
I know of a Jewish woman that hid her identity under the guise of Native American. And, guess what? People actually thought she was. I never said anything or reprimanded her because well she's a girl and helped protect my Jewish identity at the time. But, I thought it was funny she was able to convince people she's a Pocahontas😎
Love your show, my brother in law's mother was white pretending to be black but, White's couldn't marry black's until 1952 and that was the reason behind it. His parents were very old when I met them so they got married in the 1920s. But I feel the same as you about people doing it for no reason. To me it's a big question mark.
Actually, I've heard of that before. Could be an interesting episode on how some people in the past, they passed for Black to get around laws that banned mixes race marriages. Yet another layer of complexity in the American story.
I'm 42% indigenous but I grew up white and I think I really can't just call myself a native American if I haven't even seen reservations or ever participated in indigenous culture.
@@etruscancivilization indigenous meaning is they're ancesters who resided in a place or region for a very long time. I can say that because I'm native with my whole family being on a reservation with our old teaching still being taught today.
Did you ever hear the story of Archibald Stansfield Belaney? The movie "Grey Owl" was about his story in the 1930s. He took on an indigenous identity in Canada and actually did lecture tours. He was totally English! I think it would be better to remain who you are and learn about a culture rather than pretend you are part of that culture. I would think you might receive more respect that way.
I have a lot of respect for Grey Owl. Don't you? He was always keeping animals in his room back in Hastings, England. He loved being in the woods in the area. After completing high school and working for a couple of years in an office, his aunts agreed to send him to Canada. He worked at Eaton's for a bit and, then, after earning some money, went North to a resort of which there were many in the northern Ontario wilderness. He was taught the ways of the wilderness and worked as a hand in these wilderness camps and also, trapped in the winter. He served in the World War and came back wounded seriously in the foot. He met a young woman much younger than he and went off to trap with her. When he couldn't get enough beaver and his partner was sickened by the killing of the beaver for the fur, he turned to writing about the outdoors, the wilderness. He got paid for these articles and eventually, wrote a book about the wilderness. He, then, went on a lecture tour of England and came back. He wrote some more. He was given a cabin in Saskatchewan by the national parks service because they thought his presence would attract tourists. Then, he went on another lecture tour of England and made a couple stops in Montreal and Toronto. Shortly after, he was found unconscous in his cabin and he died at 49. When it was revealed that he was a bogus "Indian" a short time after his death, sales of his book plummeted, although they have never gone out of print. I haven't seen the whole movie just excerpts on You Tube. Is it available on line? I guess Grey Owl figured he create more of a buzz if he appeared as an Indian rather than a bourgeois Englishman who happened to like living in the bush. .
The movie is excellent! Love the ending but I won't be a spoiler. I'm not sure if it is available on line. I had it on VHS.. You could probably pay amazon a few bucks to stream it.
@@James-oi7mz It was never released to theatres in the U.S. Pretty obvious why it wouldn't be. It never made its money back. The few bits I've seen on You Tube certainly are intriguing. It was shot near Ottawa on the Quebec side of the Ottawa River.
I like the candor of your channel. Second gen Italian myself. But don't care what anybody's background is. Variety is the spice of life. Thanks for shining a light on history and culture. Very cool.
I was talking to my Dad about how much different he (and as such, his family...) is from my mom. And how growing up, I didn't think I looked like his family and I didn't see myself in mom's family either. For context, I'm of European descent but Dad is English, Scottish, Irish, Dutch, Scandinavian, French and Mom is Cajun French, Quebecois French, Scottish, New Orleans Creole French, Irish, German, and Sicilian. So with that context, I was lamenting how I didn't look like any of my cousins and he said ... "that was on purpose .... I didn't want to look like my family. I hated the way I looked, my skin color, my hair color, al of it...." And I was heart broken. He grew up in the 60's and at the time he was a super progressive hippy artist type person. And I can't help but wonder if some kind of self-hatred was created on a society level broadly because of what you're talking about. The lack of an identification of a culture among the families that have been here .... in the states a long time. In addition to the differences between my 2 parents visually .... my dad's family is hundreds of years? Maybe ... but no later than the early 1800's .... removed from his most recent ancestor. Mom? Her grandfather was Italian. And I can't help but think that there's a huge difference there. I'm way more interested in my mom's family history than my dad's ... why? And while I would never do what these women have done ... I sort of get it but I have SO MANY cultures that are part of my history I wouldn't even know where to start to fully accept all of them into who I am so I settle for each of my parents and that has to be enough ... I still know their histories though ... I'm not a monster ;)
This docu "The Pretendians" is really good! They found 10,000s of people claiming to be one ethnicity when their ancestors are actually from a totally diff region cuz there’s legit social and financial benefits. Had no idea it was that bad!
Like most Americans, I’m a mut. I was never taught nor have I ever perceived this as a detriment. I never felt ‘without a culture’ and have always felt free to experience whatever culture was available. I was born in New Orleans and now live outside Chicago. There’s been a lot to see in my 63 years and I won’t stop experiencing new things till I’m dead. Vive la difference!
Mut? Most White Americans are 100% Europeans so why would that be muttly in any way shape or form? Unlike most African Americans. We are not 100% African.
I don’t understand why the Jewish woman wasn’t proud of being mixed Ashkenazi and Sephardi. I found it fascinating when I found the paper trail of one of my Sephardic ancestors, and how he went to Thessaloniki in Greece. I found it fascinating that from Greece they ended up in Poland. It was amazing to see how the surnames changed from Hebrew ones to Ashkenazi ones in Yiddish. I am sure she would have fascinating stories like this too. It’s amazing to read about the villages my forebears lived in. Seeing their names written in Hebrew is interesting, and finding out that my Y-Haplogroup lineage is Levite is something to be proud of. She should see the richness in her own heritage, as every culture is rich in its own unique way.
Alot of folks are not really who they "think" they are. They have been told lies or half truths by family. People go figure it out you can sense when things don't add up and don't feel right.
So it’s okay for a biological man to identify as a woman, compete in women’s sports and get praised for winning but it’s not okay to “identify” as another race or culture? Why? Since gender identity is now based on one’s feelings and not biological science, why can’t everything else be based on feelings as well? We’re supposed to recognize that a person with biologically male anatomy as a female, a real female, why can’t a white person identify as a black and vice versa? We have biological men legally allowed in women’s private spaces, in women’s sports, so why is this any different?
@@jdee3421In Italy we're not latins. Ancient Romans died many thousands years ago.Anyway Italian,Spanish, Portuguese and French are latin languages 'cause all derive from Latin but there 's not a latin race and we Italians do not identifiy ourselves as Latins
@@emanuelamattioli6743 As a fellow Italian, I can not agree with you. The only truth you said is ancient Roman culture died many years ago. But we Italians are their descendants. Sounds to me like you are in a state of denial of your ancestry. Besides, NOBODY is Latin today. It is a long lost culture. When people say they are are "Latin" it is always meant in ancestral terms.
@@markantony3875isn’t the modern use of Latin in reference to culture more to do with sharing historic connections through language and conquest as much as and maybe more than genetic inheritance?
@@lindyashford7744 Latin reference is always historic at this point. The Latins were from Europe and their genes are carried down from those European people around the world. BTW, Latin is an English language derived word only. It is Latino/Latina in Italian. The confusion arrived when some people in the U.S. government decided to misuse the words as short hand for Latin America. Which was and is wrong. It is also incredibly racist for the U.S. to do that because it changes the original historic meaning of the word AND at the same time it tries to lump all the people south of the U.S. border into one group. Culture? What culture? There isn't a culture in the modern world today that is like the original Roman culture.
I agree that i think it has a lot to do with the creation of "white." In addition, many people don't understand the nuance of indigenous ancestry and identity. I have indigenous ancestry and have been a part of a community of native folk from across the continent, but i don't represent myself as a member of a particular tribe or an authority on it. Also, i find it hilarious when people say they aren't "white," they are "Latin," or when someone says "so and so is not Latino, they are Italian" just ridiculous all around. People get mad at me when I say well I'm Acadian, so I'm also Latin-American. "That's not what it means!" And they never can explain exactly what it is. Well anyway, good video, again. 😊
Totally relate on the Acadian question. On top of that my mom is French AND Spanish, but was born in Guatemala. I was born in New Orleans so if some ethnophile asks I just tell them (race)white (culture)creole. That really scrambles their brains. But then so does Latino-Acadian. 🤷
What you wrote resonated with me. I’m right now working on the side of the family tree where we had hit a dead end (great grandmother’s side). Recently I found documents that show they were living in Choctaw territory in the 1900s and the census lists them as such. If it’s accurate, that makes me connected to that nation, but I’m not a part of the community. I would definitely try to learn things, but never try to represent them like an authority. There is a nuance there, and I think people miss that often. Thank you for your comment!
I actually have sympathy for these women. Identity shifting is a hallmark of people suffering from CPTSD. They pretend to be someone or something else due to deep-seated insecurities. They feel that who they inherently are won't be accepted. It's doubly sad that they decided to splash their story within academia and on social media, because their fall from grace was pretty spectacular. And no doubt painful. While I completely understand the angst and anger among peoples that truly own an underserved and undervalued heritage, I believe that these women would benefit from some compassion and therapy. That's just my two cents and comes from a place of Do No Harm, ever. 😊
CPTSD🤔 nah. They lied and did it with a smile. No need to slap a diagnosis on them. Anybody with good sense, good eyes and investigative skills can see that those women are liars and pretenders.
CPTSD is NOT about pretending to be someone else but stems from having experienced chronic childhood abuse and to survive the trauma the person has to compartmentalize aspects of themselves to survive. Those fragments makes up one individual and therapy helps with integrating those fragments.
I love how you bring up conversation. I can appreciate respectful conversation most are so hesitant to speak on. I can’t speak for anyone who speaks publicly claiming to be something they are not. I have always loved learning about different mental health issues, and unless there is a spectrum that I didn’t learn about, Factitious disorders (Munchausen, or by proxy) is a serious issues and I don’t feel that it’s even remotely comparable with this specific issue. I mean that in a very respectful way. Learning about Factitious disorders is so incredibly sad, even worse when it’s by proxy. I just don’t feel that having an identity crisis closely resembles Munchausen. In regards to people claiming to be a certain race, ethnicity, etc. that they actually know they are not, if you are advocating or in the public eye, getting any type of benefit from it, it’s just wrong. If it’s someone who wants to have a sense of belonging, I pray that they can just embrace being an individual and be happy. I don’t feel that this relates to the current issue of “white guilt” that is being shoved into our faces in recent times. If you can research these people, their motives were clear before the recent introduction of “white guilt” so many are facing today. I love ancestry, reading my ancestors stories and seeing how I am an American. It wasn’t on great terms (most were deported/exiled from Acadia). I have different indigenous tribes in my ancestry, I am so thankful my great grandmother was so strict on teaching us to respect nature and the healing powers in nature, encouraging to stay away from modern medicine. She was not 100% indigenous, her grandfather was. So I can’t confirm that it was her indigenous heritage that teaches those. It could have been that there were not as available as it is now. Unfortunately, she passed in 2013, she had Alzheimer’s and it became increasingly difficult to know if things she said were true. I’m more concerned with teaching my children about their ancestry and understanding that after they pass their test in school, go research something that contradicts it. Let’s face it, our education system is a disaster and a disgrace. I don’t want them to be so brainwashed that they don’t question things and just believe what they’re told. I truly believe that is why we are dealing with so many issues in America right now. I’ve only done genome sequencing for pharmaceuticals that my genetic makeup is able to metabolize and not have harmful effects. I never knew why I would become violently sick from most pain medication. This test showed my body can’t metabolize it correctly and even small doses is an overdose. So I can finally stop having to explain why I decline painkillers without feeling like they question if I’m a recovering addict.
I’m not sure the major phenomena is just white women. There are a lot of folks who have decided that they are Native American rather than of African decent, despite no direct oral histories or DNA links. Interestingly, I think both European Americans and African Americans often feel quite divorced from cultural signifiers like language, dress, or religion. It is not hard to understand that people want to feel like they belong, but feel lost in how to achieve that when they have not been passed down these elements of cultural heritage.
I am amazed at the levels of hypocrisy and the biased judgmental attitudes. Put yourself in these people’s shoes, try to image what would tempt someone to do this. And at the same time ask yourself why not? We live in a world where if you wake up one day and are uncomfortable with the biology and genitals you were born with you can proclaim to be different And insist others play along with. So where does it stop? And who sets the boundaries? What’s net? So these women want to be different … and proclaim to be a different ethnicity? What’s next? I just Believe all of this has gone way tooo far and boundaries must be set. We are all one
People want to feel oppressed or like they've overcame a lot in life such as many minority groups that had today and in the past. If these people looked into their own heritage and past they would understand what their OWN families overcame or accomplished.
Awesome observation! My cousins who are more connected with my native relatives pointed out the fact that our ancestors fought and overcame all so we could be here. My Innu ancestors AND my Scottish ancestors. It's OUR own family that makes us who we are...and they all went through a great deal.
@@MamaKatt It was free, but the homesteaders had to develop it within a certain short period of time or it wasn't theirs. My grandfather developed his farm from 1916 to 1929 and, then, lost everything because he was "hailed out". He never really recovered from that. The family had nothing and was homeless just as the Great Depression hit. As my mother said to me once. "It didn't really mark G. (her only sibling who was 3 years younger than her), but if treally marked me."
@@dinkster1729 It was NOT free. Your grandfather and the people like him stole the land and used what ever terrorist tactic, legal and illegal, they could to ensure you would keep the land. So no it was not free. It was paid for by the blood of the indigenous people and the sweat of black people who worked for little more than food. It was not free. You just refuse to acknowledge the true price paid for your grandfather's land.
According to the dna results that I had done, my background is mostly Scottish and English, with small amounts of Irish and Welsh ancestry. Therefore, I am a white woman and cannot claim any other background (nor would I ever think of doing something like that.) I think the reason that some white women are trying to pass off as being other races is because of colonialism and maybe some shame about being white. And it is true that Europeans (the English in particular) were extremely cruel, racist, etc. However, European culture can still be beautiful and worth celebrating. As are other cultures, including Native American culture. I especially love my Scottish ancestry and enjoy learning about it. I think that we all need to be true to who we are and celebrate one another's unique heritage. Don't try to be something that we aren't.
You are an ISRAELITE. Daniel 7:25 King James Version 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
A tree without roots can’t stand. A tree without roots won’t grow. A peacock without feathers can’t show. A person without knowledge won’t know. These people either don’t know their own history, are ashamed of themselves or just seek attention , maybe a combination of all the above. It’s important to know your history and past. I’m glad that I kept in touch with my roots and believe me it feels good! If you go to Germany and the Netherlands you’ll see very quickly how many dialects exist within each of these countries, as well as regional foods and customs even. So with that said, no matter where your ancestors came from, embrace it!
It isn't yikes.. that'd be like me asking why Indians, Africans and people from around the world are wearing European's traditional clothes(suits, jeans), speaking English, etc. Am I suppose to sit around and say they're stealing my culture?? I don't think so, and I'd never even think to say that. This sorta stuff really needs to go away... we're all influenced and respect certain aspects of other cultures. It's completely normal....
I am not only black but also I think of myself as pretty pro-black. However, I don't think that means I have to be anti-white. So I am of a few minds on this. First I don't think that white Americans don't have a culture. They do, like African Americans, it's a blended culture, it's perfectly viable, and legitimate if underappreciated and resented because of its ties to unfortunate historical acts against people of color. I also think these women may feel a deep spiritual connection to the races they identify with. I am not sure they mean harm or to injure the community they feel connected to. I am sure Rachel Dolezal never meant to harm the community she married into or that her children are members of. I think sometimes for unknown reasons you can feel a thing so deeply in your soul that it drives your actions. Like many things, I think intent and actions have to be evaluated before we judge harshly. White people have historically joined communities of color and come to identify so completely with those communities that the blood members of those communities see them only as one of their own and some of them have become pillars of those communities. Leana Horn's grandfather spent his life as a pillar of the New York black community despite having no African Ancestry whatsoever. This is just another complicated racial issue in a country of complicated racial issues. Are you still white, if none of your social of cultural connections are white?
💯 agreed. I had no sympathy when I first found out about her, but then I found out her parents were abusive, so she left home and brought her adopted black siblings to live with her, so she could raise them herself. Doesn’t mean she made the right move, but at least it seems like she might’ve done it cuz she felt a genuine connection and not just as some kind of sick game
The prior 2 comments, and there are others touch on some of these social implication that affect people, multi-racial I'm sure. I'm black, 70+, my grandfather was a slave. In my 50's I got the genealogy bug , started asking my father a bunch of questions in this regard. He sat me down, looked dead into my eyes and said, " there are some things about what your asking you don't want to know." I got the hint and never pursued any of it since. One of my kids and his daughter have but I refused doing DNA analysis. The look in my father's eye clearly acknowledged hurt!
@@natederrell2110 I think that is why they told us so little about their lives. My great grand mother on my mother's side was alive when I was born and she was born a enslave.
@@MamaKatt I'm sorry but you are wrong. Edwin Horn had not a single drop of African blood. His father was white and his mother was Native American. His father registered him as colored in order to circumvent a state law that would have prohibited him from inheriting his father's property. He lived his adult life in the African American community but he was not African American himself. See Gail Lumet Buckley's (Leana Horn's daughter) book "The Homes"
8:30 You bring up an interesting point. White americans have lost so much of their cultures by basing their identities on being separate from and suppressing OTHER ethnicities and cultures. They have widdled out the the cultural artifacts that made them unique in their pursuits to oversimplify themselves and others for the sole purpose of exclusion. It's a self-inflicted wound. It's why they refer to themselves as "anglo saxon", or having "viking heritage" when those cultures have not existed for thousands of years. It's why they try to socially punish people they see as "other" from displaying the ornaments of their cultures-- like braided hair, darker skin, certain facial features, or head coverings-- but will appropriate those looks for themselves without any expectation of being punished in the same way. Their entire culture is based on appropriating the distinctive treasures of other cultures and calling it their own because they have effectively erased much of their original, all for the sake of an over-simplified "whiteness". They got exactly what they wanted, and seem to resent the results.
I know I’m a little late to this video , but anyone who lived through the 2000s may remember the audacious America’s next top model “race swap” photo shoots. Yup not one ; but 2. I would love to hear your take on how these things have been covered in tv, specifically fictional media. Another thing that comes to mind from a television show from the 90s that was portraying the late 70s I believe, called Tales from the city . Set in San Francisco it had a sub plot of a character who was getting melanin injections for the sake of her modeling career. It was wild. I think you would be the best person to discuss some of the ways these things have been portrayed on television. Does anyone else remember these things? The tales of the city characters name was Dorothea
My dear Daniel, that last part of what you said will make a huge difference in how we all see and treat each other. I have always said “ my grandmother “Don’t throw stones at glass houses”.
people will will try to identify themselves with whatever is giving them brownie points During the WW2 half of the Slavic populations did claim to be Germanic It is the same today when it is benefical to not be European and women will always be ready to follow what is declared popular
Why be embarrassed of what you're born as I don't understand it should be okay to be just what you are that's really a huge concern for people who lie about who they are it needs to be addressed
The reason why a lot of these women are doing this is for two major reasons, but brace yourself because this is going to sting some people a bit: these women have been taught by the culture around them that truth is a malleable and arbitrary thing. When you embrace that type of “your truth, my truth, his/her truth, etc.” you open yourself up to not being able to define what real truth actually is. These women have not been held accountable according to the REAL TRUTH about How ridiculous it is to try and pretend to be someone you’re not. The culture has fed them these lies and the culture itself embraces the same lie and is unable to self correct this type of behavior from going off the deep end. Secondly, when you attach power and influence and attention to things like identity politics and race, it’s clear that these women are doing this because they like the attention the influence and the “moral accolades and praise” they are getting from their peers. I think people need to embrace who they truly are and find a way to be happy and satisfied with that instead of trying to be someone they are not, at the root of these people I think there’s a lot of very deep insecurity that’s a little disturbing and I think they need serious help.
do you have their DNA? how can anyone judge someone’s ethnicity without really verifying it? Then that statement that I just made is creepy end of itself like we should have our DNA checked and on file so that we could prove what our ethnic background is? I have some unique ancestry, but don’t look it, I wouldn’t like somebody discounting anything about my heritage based solely on appearance.
DNA doesn't tell you much of anything past a few generations. I have documented proof of Dutch ancestry through the mid-1700's but it simply does not show up in the DNA test. You figure if 50% drops out in each generation, eventually whatever "Native" DNA would drop out but it does NOT mean that person is not a descendant of Native people. I myself am 1/ 1024 Native (8th great-grandma) but ya know, it doesn't show up in the DNA. It would be enough to make me "black" if it were African DNA tho' wouldn't it? :)
How much DNA in terms of centimorgans is "one drop" and is that one drop enough to give the right to declare allegiance? Is there a "statute of limitations" for ethnic inheritance?
After learning about the history of assimilation and how it affected the Native American and African American communities it’s safe to say that the ethnic bleaching thing is hella real.
The whole subject of identity is fascinating. I was adopted and raised by an Irish immigrant family in California, but for most of my life did not know my ancestry. When I did DNA tests and found both my birth parents, I discovered I am 1/4 Mexican( other 3/4 is Northern European).But many White people have told me if I was raised White and am only 1/4 by birth, I have no right to claim my Mexican heritage. This, despite the fact I had lots of Mexicano/Chicano friends throughout my life in California, even before I discovered I shared that background, and through that learned a fair bit of Spanish language and Mexican culture. This despite the fact I have a deep olive skin color, only a shade or two away from true brown. This despite my having some definite Indigenous features to the face, not pronounced but definitely noticeable. This despite my newfound Mexicano/Chicano relatives accepting me and in fact warmly welcoming me into their family. This despite my being actively involved in the Mexicano/Chicano community in California. I feel I have the right to claim my Mexican heritage.
That is who you are, it is better to live in a truth than a lie. You are who you are and also who you have found yourself to be. Infact, who you are was always there, thus the natural pull, itvwas just waiting..rather your ancestors were just waiting for you to discover it. Or rather discover you.🎉 no one else can define who you are. Best to not even discuss it with them, but rather share n communicate with those who have understanding.
@@markantony3875 Ancient Roman society was multiracial. Had to be as Rome covered so much territory and the City of Rome drew people from everywhere, rather similar to London in the present day. A polyglot tendency. Even in early renaissance times there was a mixed culture. Try visiting Venice, there are examples of African people in art and sculpture if you open your eyes. Only we are trained to disregard them. Other Italian art also shows this. As does history. In these modern times we understand very well that Africa is just a boat ride away from Italy, any cultural divisions are driven by geopolitical influences. For early to late non WASP settlers from Europe places, continents like the Americas or Australia were like the dark side of the moon. I should have included the monied people of Italy Spain and other nations whose eyes were hungry to claim unknown lands too. But never mind….
I always grew up hearing about my great grandmother who was half Cherokee and had to bleach her skin with lemon juice. (I saw pictures of her and she did look like a Native American, and my grandma also had darker skin and a convex nose). When I got my DNA tested, there was no evidence of any Native American DNA at all, only some African DNA and 90% English and Central European. Additionally, genealogy studies revealed all my mom’s ancestors coming from England before the revolution. My guess is that maybe someone in my past was half African and maybe tried to pass as Cherokee instead (or a child of an affair was adopted by the white parent?) My ancestors left no keys. You are right about the “no culture” thing. When my workplace had diversity days and wanted everyone to share their culture, I just said, “I’m just American and I don’t have any special culture” and served box macaroni as my special cultural meal. (Child of single mom! 😜)
A lot of these that like to "identify" with a particular collective or group of people based on the physicality and total mannerisms that are and were alien to you during your childhood and adulthood. There is a old Black saying: "Skinfolk ain't Kinfolk"! Identifying with a peoples is more of the heart and actions...Than looking and trying to imitate with them in dress and language and other intangibles. This woman reminds me of Rachel Dolentz. There are many phonies in all types. Just you do not do this as it will be cause to delegitimize you. A feeling and cause are deep within you, not overt appearences. Just be yourself and if you identify with a people and their cultures and the best...Do so thru actions and speaking up and correcting those within your own people and show solidarity through actions and writings and other ways. My two cents. Peace
I think this is so difficult because there are people who have been genuinely kept from their heritage due to forced assimilation of their parents or grandparents trying to reconnect, especially when it comes to indigenous people, and then these folks come in & cause all of these issues by faking it.
Race and heritage are connected but not synonymous. Plenty of "white" passing people have legitimate Indigenous heritage, while plenty of non-white POC don't have a drop of indigenous ancestry. Indigeneity is extremely complex. It's pretty racist to only see Native people as a monolith, all dark-skinned, high cheekbones, wide rose, squinty eyes, etc. To me, unless you're registered with a verified tribe or if your family has connections to a historic tribe, you're not native In my opinion.
I am fully of European descent, but I am greatly inspired by the histories and cultures of various indigenous American tribes and peoples. I will never deny my Slavic heritage. It is part of my story, and there is much in my family history to be proud of. Even if not, I would deny not my own family history. During the Civil War, my family refused to fight for the Confederacy. They were non-slaving holding farmers in Texas who did not believe in slavery. They also defied the motherfuckers who foisted prohibition on the US, from which I immigrated in my fifties to my ancestral homelands in the Czech Republic..
And “black”? I disagree, Black definitely has a culture to it with tons of subcultures within it…African American would be considered the proper ethnic (not racial) term though since there’s a distinction between Nigerian or even Caribbean people who appear as racially black and at the same time have different cultures and history than those who have been considered black but have lived in the US for multiple generations Race =\= ethnicity
@@etruscancivilization yea i agree with those definitions say the same there are many people who use black(a racial category) and African American(an ethnic category) as interchangeable given the history of the US.. would you agree with that?
I hate the term "white" too. My mom's side is English settler white back to the Mayflower and Salem. My dad's side is Italian, Irish, and French...semi-recent "ethnic" white immigrants. There are distinct cultures from all of those ethnicities.
@@etruscancivilization " Slav....... can be destroyed..... That is why this seed is subject to elimination, and at first - to a sharp reduction in its number" In a situation in that we are ...in what words of people like Schneerson are law ..do they not decide what we are
I grew up very much with “Hispanic” experiences, I never grew up with the experience of being a white person. But I feel so weird trying to claim any of my native ancestry because so much of my culture has been erased from my family and I have so little knowledge of our history. I know we have native ancestry because of our genes and context clues because of where we’re from. I’m just struggling to find anything beyond my great grandparents on ancestry and family search. And upon my journey of searching, I found that so many of my older relations labeled themselves as white. Despite not looking white in the slightest bit or experiencing life as a white person. It feels really disheartening since I feel like I don’t belong anywhere. It’s frustrating to see these culture vultures and see how easily some of them can reap the benefits without going through the experiences of being a poc
This is truly very cringy. 😯 BLACKfishing is all over social media, mainly Instagram. I agree, people are looking for a way to belong to something & be more “interesting.” However, the emptiness will continue to be there until they are truly honest with themselves (AND OTHERS)of who they truly are. Taking on a different identity, other than their own, is just NOT it. As a lot of black people say: “They want our rhythm but they don’t want our blues.” 👀 😏
I am a Black woman and I don't see Euro-descended people as a monolith. Is it because I'm from New England, specifically Greater Boston? We tend to hyphenate ourselves quite a bit here. There are numerous ethnic festivals where music, food, and religious celebrations are available. People tend to identify with their European countries for generations. Most Black Americans don't know their African origins. DNA is finally changing this.
Great video! That’s the issue with whiteness… it is flattening of culture but historically as you’ve already said, whiteness is a part of establishing a social and legal cast to justify slavery and make it easy to identify who could be enslaved and who couldn’t It’s sad that some academics/activists are pretending to be of another race/ethnicity partly to be taken as more of an authority on a topic. It definitely undermines who they’re advocating for.. Anyone who does identify as white should probably learn more about how their history is tied an ethnicity and celebrate that…
@@purplespeckledappleeater8738 there’s good reason for that because there is still discrimination based on race happening today and there are historical after effects of racism In the past that impact us today. If we don’t record who identifies as what we can’t help those who are effected by racism. Taking race classifications out given the US history is the equivalent of saying if we all don’t talk about it, it goes away…that only works in theory because not everyone will do that and we won’t be able to address the present aftermath of the past. Think about it like this, if everyone except one person in a room can’t see color but the one person does and discriminates based on color how would the people who can’t see color even be able to call the person out? They can’t even notice that he’s doing it… Race isn’t actually real, but racism has real consequences for everyone
Actually race is real( it’s biological not political) and there no reason to be racist anymore as slavery isn’t even an option, so who would benefit? The problem is classism. Some races are affected by classism more per capita, but the correlation is incidental. The literal denotative definition of racism is race consciousness. Said consciousness could be used for good OR evil.
@@wintermatherne2524It's not race that's real, it's ethnicity. You can test DNA to find a person's ethnicities, but "race" was a category invented to segregate people; it's never been scientifically accurate. For instance, my Maori friends, my Himba friend, my Warlpiri friend, and my African-American friends could all be called "Black" even though they're from completely different ethnicities, completely different parts of the world, and completely different cultures, with completely different languages. I'm an American citizen, but ethnically I'm mostly Indigenous Polynesian, plus a little Japanese and a little Roma; and depending on what part of the US I'm in, people guess all kinds of different ethnicities for me. I have a Lakota friend whom strangers sometimes mistake for my sister even though she and I aren't physically related at all. "Race" is too broad a category.
There was a coworker who said that she was from Oklahoma, which she was I guess, and she claimed to be Native American. She was very white. I questioned her and she got so upset she pulled out her "Indian" Card - seriously!! But we know the history of specifically Cherokee tribes "allowed" whites to be apart of their tribe and all they needed was a chief to sign off on it. They get insurance and other governmental benefits. It was so disgusting to me!!
Among some tribes like the Cherokee to be considered a member all you have to prove is that one of your ancestors was on the Dawes rolls. They do not go by blood quantum. So you could be 1/132 Cherokee and still get that "Indian card" Most tribes like my own the Navajo ,you have to have 1/4 Navajo blood to be a member. Among the Pueblo tribes of NM you have to one full blood parent of Pueblo ancestry to be considered a member of that Pueblo.
The Curse of the White Man From Town. How amazing it would be if the POCs of the world stood up against them instead of trying to be like them. Thanks for that info. Good for the Pueblos!! @@RonJacksonToahani
HI, my mother made false claims about her ethnic background. Why did she claim to be other than of European descent? It's a tough question. Suffice it to say that she got away with her claims because she could easily access academia, religious organizations and social groups. Why? Because she was white. I made three long videos talking about this matter. The first concerns about her claim to being linked to the indigenous northern Sami people of Norway, the second is about her claiming Jewish heritage and the third video gets into her claim to intergenerational trauma. What my mother did was totally disrespectful and it was exhausting to live through this unceasing series of lies. She spoke "on behalf", cornered attention and duped people. Once she died in 2021 I thought all those lies would disappear but they didn't which is why I made three videos to explain how she got away with documenting her lies "for posterity" and what happened to the family. Because if someone is lying about their identity then they are leaving behind the one they were given by birth.
What "blood quantum" is required for one to declare themselves as a member of one or two races, though? Is there a cutoff percentile due to exogamy, or is the one drop rule in effect? Where do the hapas and quapas and castizas and so forth all lay?
@@nytn I am 27% SE Asian, 73% Euro, but I don't identify as Asian. Asians whom I know are forever reminding me either that I am white or "don't forget who you really are...Asian!" My mom likes to go to casinos that are run by native American tribes, and is persistently asked "What reservation are you from?" by locals and workers. One of my sisters is actually 35% Asian, 65% Euro and to look at her you would never even suspect it. Mixed race inheritance is a complex affair.
There's no hard rule, but I think 1/8 (great grandparent) is significant enough to claim the heritage, probably even 1/16 (great great grandparent) depending upon how a family kept the culture alive.
@@starventure You have more than enough SE Asian ancestry to claim it without fear of being called a pretendian. I think that is reserved more for people who are completely making it up or perhaps an "Elizabeth Warren" situation where the Native American ancestry is so far back that it is family rumor and she shows maybe 1-2% ancestry (but at least her test backs up family rumor).
You hit the 🎯. 1. mental illnesses 2. people not knowing their heritage 3. Vilification of being "white" I hear all of this from my college age daughter. Somehow it is ok to make fun of "white" people and make jokes about "white" food. Things that are cringe and you would never say about another culture (not without getting a label anyways)
If you want to talk about people pretending to be something they're not, why don't you talk about the Black people who call themselves 'Hebrew Israelites'?
Look, some people truly hate what they are. Evidently there's admiration of the cultures, "races" they choose or wish to be. Add a bit of mental or personality disorder of some kind and they then believe they are of that group. I've known personally some whites when i was a teen who wanted to be black so bad they changed their name, married black and solely associated with. Its not a compliment it's dysfunctional. There's different reasons but in essence they need counseling. Self hate or envy of another, its just not normal to then disown your true self to become someone else...
@@etruscancivilization Sure. Open mind without the filter of critical thinking. Being so arrogant about your “woke open mind” slows for junk ideology to fill it.
Great information, as always, but I think you were being a bit optimistic at the end when you say that these women of no colour finding their specific European ancestry would curtail their buffoonery and fraudulence. The lack of knowledge of their own specific ancestry was not why they did this. They did this in order to gain attention for themselves and to essentially be the big fish in a small pond by usurping identities and resources in underserved communities,. They actively played to colourism by using their newfound and engineered racial ambiguity to take up positions that could have been filled by people in those communities.
@@nytn exactly. White converts almost all seem to "become Arab" after awhile, even developing an accent. I met one that would say something like "how do you say this in English" when they were talking about mundane things, not religious concepts that might be difficult to translate. I had one that kept wanting me to change MY name. Had an Arab name all my life that white people had problems with and then white converts wanted me to have MORE Arab name so I would be legitimate in THEIR eyes.
@@tiredoftrolls2629there is a saying that no one is more purist than a convert. Maybe the word purist can be interchangeable with other words. But this going for any kind of convert. Any religion. Maybe now nationalities too. 😉
@@lindyashford7744 Yup, as far as I'm concerned Rachel Dolezal is blacker than I am. I love baroque music, German cars, Portuguese wine, Italian architecture, Shakespeare and Swedish women; as a "black" man, I don't want any part of _rap, weaves nor voting Democrat_ . If Rachel Dolezal wants all that, she can have my black card.
The Sunni-Shiite conflict sort of breaks that assertion, because if you talk to Muslims from the respective sides it becomes apparent that there is a racial component to the animosity. I learned the hard way years ago not to assume that an Iranian Shiite is the same as a Sunni Arab.
thats what happens when a society is so obsessed with the ideology of race and guilt tripping that just don't care about just wanting to know your families heritage as the only thing
Meanwhile, on the rez, they are dealing with real problems instead of being offended because people dress up as Indians. Why don't you focus on the Indian women who have become missing or murdered in record numbers on the rez? How about the rampant alcoholism on the rez? Or the hopelessness of many Indians? Nah, THIS is one of the pressing issues of our time. And you wonder why people find so many social justice warriors ridiculous?
I’m not a sjw. I taught and lived on the Diné Rez, and drove an ambulance on the weekends as a volunteer where I would frequently find my students’ parents intoxicated on the side of a dirt road. I know the issues, but not every video can be heavy (at least for me)
@@nytn Do you call out the Indians that wear western wear or cowboy hats which means they are dressing up as white people? Or do you call out anyone other than white people that wear business suits? This is a ridiculous mountain to plant your flag on.
@@comcham1 cowboy culture it’s not Anglo culture at all. The cowboy culture that you see in modern days it’s a result of the Mexican culture brought here by the Spanish settlers. And through out time it’s been refine by mestizo people.
Do you feel that a person wearing a hat is the same as an ethnically European person changing their identity and presentation to be Ojibwe and taking a job under that assumption? 🙀
@@nytn I think if you are going to call out whites for cultural appropriation, then you should call out any others. Quite frankly, I think in this melting pot of our country, I don't think there is such a thing as cultural appropriation, but apparently there are people that get triggered only by white people doing it. And I think changing standards to allow anyone a specific advantage is wrong. But that is just me.
I love how people can change there ethnicity especially when they are WP pretending to be something else, but my children who are half white can only be considered black American and nothing else.
How is this any diffrent than the whole trans thing? I know natives that are more "white" than I am, where as myself and my wife probably follow more of a lifestyle that they would deem closer to native traditional lifestyles. I have several native friends, and work at a predominantly native company (owned and operated by 7 of the local bands) I do not call myself native, I don't call myself one either, but the way everyone accepts crazy notions these days I don't understand why people are so offended by it happening. If these people are going all in and following what's deemed to be the culture than why does it matter more than a man pretending a woman? Where do you draw the line of what's acceptable and not acceptable when it c9mes to claiming identity? BTW, I am NOT for living and thus don't agree that this is good, and I think the whole alphabet rainbow people are wacko... but where do you draw the line? You either accept people's identities like the woke crazies and have no line, or you say it's all wrong... there should be no grey zone or you can't draw a line through it
That may be because being born into or allowed into the generic American WASP culture was what every American, recent immigrant or not, strived to do. Then, all of a sudden, it was not cool to be an American WASP. Now, you have a flood of people in America saying "Hey, my ancestry is not really WASP, I am really something else" As an immigrant to the U.S. myself, I have always found American's obsession with who is "White" or not rather strange.
Yes, usually your white immigrants from the turn of the 20th century have more connection to their ethnic cultures. The women with Italian ancestry were surprising in their need to connect to something beyond that. I'm guessing that their families were less connected to the culture because of how marriages/relationships happened (just a guess).
I appreciate your take on most of this. Those in academia who pretend, seem to do it to be almost certainly assured of the job she wants. And regarding me being satisfied calling myself white (as you point out is some kind of a wide range of European, etc), I am so far removed from my Scotch and Welsh ancestry, it would be ridiculous for me to present myself as Welsh-American. I'm happy with my ancestry, etc., but I'm just as happy with my white American culture.
they can't handle the fact they are not getting enough attention so they try to make themselves more interesting.. didn't happen before the internet turned everyone insane.
American education def needs to be better in teaching this kind of stuff to kids of all backgrounds…it’s poor education by parents and schools that don’t really talk about race & ethnicity because of a mistaken fear that knowledge about our ethnic differences harms national unity…it only harms unity if we already believe like how nationalist do, that nations are groups of homogeneous people with exact same culture…the United States on principle rejects nationalism
@@CreolePolyglot if you’re going to put quotes around what I said at least quote the whole thing…yes I understand that there are nationalist and nationalism is alive and well in the United States(and that we ought to rebuke it and get rid of it)….when I say “on principle” I mean literally at the countries founding you literally can’t have different states and be nationalist…on top of that nationalism as we know it didn’t exist before the Industrial Revolution..does that clarify things…I’m not trying to be an enemy
Anthropologists, archeologists, researchers, scientists, most of them white, have presented people of dark skin whom they can trace to lower section of Africa as one people, black. Which is so far off the mark. The racial politics and world wide anti-black cultural attitudes make the discussion on ethnicities very difficult.
It’s not only Anglo Americans. African Americans do have some of the same misconceptions based on phenotypes (high cheekbones which really mean nothing) or family lore just like others. A couple of good books on the subject is “Custer Died for Your Sins” and “God is Red” by Vine Deloria Jr. (Standing Rock Sioux). Both are free on internet archive.
African Americans also have a cult where they brainwash their people into thinking they are the real native americans, the real asians, the real italians, greeks, irish, etc
I think it all comes down to the type of mental status these people have. From the examples given and from my own experience, they all seem to have a desire to be noticed and valued by other people. So no matter what they get attention. They can live off of people's appreciation of the race or gain victimhood pity when people don't appreciate the race.
In some places if you are 1/72 you can claim you are a native American and a member of some tribe----even though you were never brought up with any affiliation with that group or tribe.
This is frustrating. My mother is aboriginal and Māori, Irish. My father was from Canada and has a Siberian father. I look Russian as crap. Like eartha kits daughter. It’s difficult to not be seen as one of these people. I was raised by my mother and grandmother, I don’t know European culture. I was raised traditionally. Also fun fact. Africa isn’t responsible for all skin colour that’s dark. Melanesia and Australia has no African ancestry. Much love.
I think having the ancestry is 100% different than pretending to have it. It's not about looking like a stereotype, but embracing your actual family history. Whatever your roots, you should embrace them. You have a cool mix!
What fascinates me (as a ‘POC’ who doesn’t live in the west, but has previously spent time in the west for education) is that a so-called ‘white’ person can claim native/indigenous/aboriginal/black identity based on 1% genes (even if they are entirely white in their appearance - blonde/blue eyes etc.) and even be accepted as such by a large enough section of society, but, on the other side, a black or dark skinned individual (with an entirely and obviously ‘non-white’ appearance) with 1% European genes would never ever be able to get away with claiming that they were ‘white’.
It seems like the ‘one-drop rule’ is being kept alive and well by this double standard.
Absolutely. The “1 drop” rules from as far back as the 1600’s to as recent as 1924 Racial Integrity Act in America looms large even to this today. I identify as “Black” and even with 1/3 of my ancestry being from Europe and 1/10th from Native American, I’m not “allowed” to claim “I”m European” or “Native American.” However, as I mentioned in another post, Elizabeth Warren (US College professor/ Politician) claimed for DECADES to be Native American minority at numerous collegiate stints in undergraduate, graduate and as a tenured professor. She never had to show documentation to prove her native ancestry. EVER. Esteemed universities like Rutgers, UPenn, Harvard just took her word for it. For years she styled her hair how a Native American woman would stereotypically part their hair in the middle, with hair to the sides behind her ears. Only when Donald Trump called her “Pocahontas” and challenged her ethnicity did we find out Elizabeth was 0.098% Native American, and over 90% European. When she was 69. She enjoyed the benefits of calling herself a “minority”, even when she’s clearly of European descent.
But the impression that is still buried in the American subconscious is that “Black Blood” taints or corrupts any other “pure” Blood. So if you’re 88% white and 12% Black…by the letter of the law, you’re Black. And it has spilled into Black American subconsciousness as well. Where there used to be clubs called “Blue Bloods” where only light-skinned Blacks were allowed, if the “blue” could be seen in your veins.
It’s baffling how we’re okay with people changing genders, pronouns, how they identify and Society is supposed to fully accept it. But allow Black people to have ethnic context just as Whites, society is like, _”Whoooooaaaaaa, you’re talking crazy, son! That’s crazy talk!”_
@@bamboosho0t Wow! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me.
Is it the government that keeps it alive or social circles? I'm thinking a little bit of a and B you're right though the bar is high for who will consider "white".
@@bamboosho0t I could not have explained that narrative any better. I recognize and agree with you. ♥ 🙏
The first act of the play The Fantasy Futurists deals with exactly that double standard.
Thanks for sharing.
Colourism is at play here. I think they realised that their identity within whiteness doesn't give them any special advantage. But if they become some other identity outside whiteness then their fairer complexion so proximity to whiteness mixed with this new exotic identity gives them an advantage.
Absolutely, especially in these academic arenas.
@@nytn Academic arenas are just as racist as the average group of whites. They too have been indoctrinated with the idea of white supremacy these are just very average white women who seek to be above average and use this to get that recognition.
Yes. If the power were removed from whiteness this would stop.
Sir, I see you are wearing a European/English suit... am I supposed to say you are stealing my culture to fit in and be successful in the white culture? I don't think I'd say that, or even think that. This all needs to go away... best wishes!!
@@etruscancivilizationThat literally has nothing to do with the comment.
This is a good sign, black people have been ashamed for so long of who we are and now this paradigm shift where others want to be us should make us feeling proud.
As 1st generation American on my mother's side, culture has always been very important to me. I've always had friends from all over and my now 29 year old daughter has followed suit. When I was growing up white meant WASP. Older people will remember the uproar when JFK, an Irish Catholic, was elected president. Many of the people we now view as white weren't considered as such just a few decades ago. For those who feel lost, I believe it's important to reclaim ones culture. There's pride to be found in that without feeling that can only be done by claiming another's culture.
Exactly Panama rose! I'm a second-generation Sicilian who grew up in NYC in the 1970's we did not identify as white!!! Like you said, whites were WASP's.
@@nicklucca7570 Has it all boiled down to skin colour then? A Jew or a Muslim or a person from Eastern Europe is supposed to say, "White", when asked skin colour and not demand to write down Jewish or Muslim or Ukrainian Orthodox or whatever?
Why does this keep happening ??😳
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“Pretenians” really blow my mind. My grandfather was “100%” Indigenous but because he didn’t raise my mother in his peoples culture my mother refuses to claim native heritage for any other reason than if someone asks her what her ethnicity is. My mother has many visible “Native American traits” but still calls herself white because that’s how she grew up.
I’m on a journey to learn more about my grandfathers culture and honestly it is very uncomfortable sometimes because the last thing I want to come off as is a want a be pretendian. My cousins are much more connected to our native culture and it makes for an interesting personal cultural experience.
These people who fake a cultural identity mystify me. I mean….I’m technically a quarter native and I’m hesitant to say so out of cultural sensitivity….I couldn’t imagine being 0% something but saying I was.
I can relate. But my history is so scattered because my great grandmother and her children left and we're travelers in the early 1900' s. So many questions that many people wanted to bury. But I am happy I had a father like I did that was raised by a beautiful mother with native roots.
Back in the day that used to call them $5 Indians..... because they paid $5 to have somebody mess with the paperwork and say they are Native American.
@@purplespeckledappleeater8738 Exactly…my grandfather took my mom to meet his grandmother on the reservation only once. My mom said she can’t remember much but for some reason he never took her back.
I'm in a similar boat, a little more removed. Only a couple of people have been nasty about my own mild reclamation, but they don't know me nor want to. Complete strangers. So I see it has to do with when people know the context of the actions, because the people in my life who do have been respectful. The process also did a part in showing me discrimination firsthand in some situations, even for somebody white passing. So many more nuances were opened up that I think a ton more people need to get a grip of their ancestry.
My Great grandmother was Cherokee and married my Irish immigrant Great grandfather. My family is white. Thats what our birth certificates say.
I struggled with this for years. I grew up with European parents but looked like a POC and no one believed me when I said I was 100% European. I always had to dance around my ethnicity because of this. Turns out I actually am half African American (found out via Ancestry and confirmed with 23andMe) and have 40% African DNA which explains my appearance. I was always very careful not to color an identity that wasn’t rightfully mine. Even now, I don’t know exactly how to identify myself.
If it is your heritage, that is who you are! I don’t think that’s the same as people making things up out of thin air. ☺️
Don't sound right. If ur near black which parent lied???
@@deemari577 both parents did. My dad wasn’t my biological father because they used a sperm donor. The doctor did not use the right donor and my parents stuck with their original plan to keep the whole thing a secret - even when asked why I don’t look like the family.
I have compared notes with other people who have taken DNA tests, and I would say that having 40% African DNA means that you likely have at least some visible African features. Based on the story you have shared, I can understand why you are unsure about how to identify yourself, however, as your life story sounds complicated. But you can't stop the journey you have begun and I hope you will learn how to be more comfortable being just the way you are. I know other people who do not look like their supposed ethnic/racial identity because their parents used a sperm donor. My guess is, we will hear more stories like this as time goes on, and as people seek to make sense of their DNA and their official identity. BTW, I have struggled with similar identity issues for years, and there's a difference between frauds who claim to be something they are not, and those of us who may have have mixed ancestry or who may not have grown up part of a specific culture that is nonetheless part of our DNA. In the end, though, we are all human beings from this earth and we just have to know that we all belong, without feeling the need to trespass on other people's territory.
@@TheLauren1113 Oh my! I'm so sorry you had to go thru that. Can u imagine how many people are living in fear knowing they could be "found out" thru the DNA tests so available because of not telling the truth? Be well, take care 👍🏽
Okay. So first lesson. DON'T NAME YOUR GIRLS RACHEL! Got it!
Lol!😳
Nothing more than "white guilt." No different from many blacks laxing their hair to look Native.
Hey Mt first daughter is named Rachael, spelled a little different. I love your videos, I'm white ,my parents were born in Naples and I was born in America. My upbringing growing up in a Italian culture and traditions. Why people would lie about who they are ridiculous ❤
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣That's hilarious!
@@nytn I really enjoy and appreciate what you're doing with your channel. I would love it if maybe one day I could share my great-grand mother's experience with coming from the Caribbean and passing for white and how I was able to reconnect with that part of my family. It's a real doozie of a story!
When I went to the hospital to have a procedure, the pre-op nurse handed me a paper to fill out. After my name, DOB, and gender, the next question was race. I wrote "HUMAN". Anything else is BS.
I usually ignore that too
@@nytn The nurse asked me why I wrote Human? I told her, "That is what I am". She asked ( judging me by appearance ), "Aren't you white?" I answered "Yes". She asked me if I was ashamed of being white and I answered, "NO, but I'm not proud of it anymore than I am proud of having 10 fingers and 10 toes. I'm only proud of what I accomplish or what positive differences I've made." I really pissed her off when I said that I wasn't proud of being American, because it was just where my parents gave birth to me.
@@FreddieVee If I get to write something in, I put "Displaced Edenic Peoples" because it sounds so ethnic and specific but it really is NOT either one lol
For what it's worth, there are certain medical things where race matters. I know on one blood panel I had, the test results were run differently based upon whether or not you were black or white. The two races had a different acceptable range for doctors to use based upon genetics. There are also rare blood subtypes that can matter when it comes to blood transfusions.
@@KatieBellino but... most American black people are mixed and nowhere near so dark as African black people. Do they just run it as halvsies or figure black is black enough?
These are examples of people who have unfortunately been brainwashed by modern day social media and lacked the proper upbringing to be confident of being who they are naturally. Gatekeepers are definitely a red flag. As someone with Hispanic ancestry from the Caribbean I am aware of my admixture and I leave it as that. Identifying with Black and White labels is alien to me and my family back on the islands generally speaking. Many of us understand it is a modern concept here in the US amongst the history with Anglo Americans and African Americans that we refuse to be dragged into. Be proud of who you are, know your roots is good enough without seeking validation from anybody. I know many people of the Southern European diaspora see it that way as well due to the history of them trying to box Italians descendents into racial white and black caterogorys.
What island are you from?
You know it's totally fine if you love a culture and want to be more like them or to join them. You don't have to pretend that you are one of them to be apart of there community. That's the part that I don't get. In all these cases you could have come up to a cultural or racial group and expressed how much you like them and want to learn and be with them. Most people love it when someone is interested in them.
This! ˆ
Nope
Not taking this anymore
White culture is rascism a culture vultures
I think that they got job benefits by pretending. So that's why they faked it.
When I was a child I wanted to be Native American. I read idealized books about Native people. I thought that they treated their children better (my white parents were abusive). I thought their religion was superior (which are actually many religions). I understand wanting to be something else. I think that learning about Celtic culture (which is part of my heritage) has helped me to accept what I am.
But a perceived lack of culture does not excuse faking another culture.
thats because guilt tripping people is a thing in the modern day so some people guilt trip others so they feel so guilty about being this because of that and so they do a DNA test and see 1 % or 5 % this
your analysis of "why" some of these people may be pretending i.e. in order to have an actual "culture" (not just "white american") is pretty sharp/interesting
Moral of the story is that everyone is looking for clout based on their chosen interface with society. Everyone is looking for love and belonging and meaning.
Stuff for free more like.
Buried treasures.
Looking for love and meaning doesn;t have to entail identity fraud. These raceshifters do real harm to actual Indigenous communities by taking our jobs and misrepresenting the cultures they claim to belong to. This is the ultimate form of colonialism.
We can add to this that being a specific ethnicity also embraces other factors: growing up in that culture, knowing the language, not just being born in that country or having physical traits. It’s so many layers into it. I've seen many people who are born in a different country but never grew up there and consequently don't know the language or take pride in those culture values. I think a person is also from where they were raised. Example, I took my DNA test. I am so many things: Native American, Mexican, Spanish, Italian, North & South East African, Lavantine, Arab, Persian, etc. But I don't speak or hold all of these culture because I didn't grow up in these countries. I only hold on to my Mexican and American herheritage (aka not the chicano culture, that's a different subculture).
They don't just hurt the culture that they appropriate, but they cheat their own ancestors. Not only that, but they cause loss of opportunity for those of these 'vultured' cultures (I like that phrase that you came up with). Thanks for sharing or I otherwise would not have known that this is a (sad) thing.
Absolutely, it takes away from history that should be remembered! And culture culture isn’t mine but I wish it was lol
Cheat their own ancestors? What does that mean?
All of these women featured in this video all have Sub Saharan African physical attributes. So many racist 'white' folks walking around in America with hatred for black people and aren't even aware their great great grand pappy was a slave.
@@buongiorno9714 what if you are of mixed heritage?
@@blugaledoh2669 embrace both? Simple isn't it
First comment! Keep up the great work. I think America has a really outdated idea of what is white. Middle East and North Africa are lumped in as white in the US regardless of your skin color
My theory is that people like this feel empowered when they take on a new identity. Which means that they started out feeling unempowered. We need to make it so everyone feels empowered and doesn't have to pretend to be something they're not.
I know of a Jewish woman that hid her identity under the guise of Native American. And, guess what? People actually thought she was. I never said anything or reprimanded her because well she's a girl and helped protect my Jewish identity at the time. But, I thought it was funny she was able to convince people she's a Pocahontas😎
Love your show, my brother in law's mother was white pretending to be black but, White's couldn't marry black's until 1952 and that was the reason behind it. His parents were very old when I met them so they got married in the 1920s. But I feel the same as you about people doing it for no reason. To me it's a big question mark.
Actually, I've heard of that before.
Could be an interesting episode on how some people in the past, they passed for Black to get around laws that banned mixes race marriages.
Yet another layer of complexity in the American story.
I'm 42% indigenous but I grew up white and I think I really can't just call myself a native American if I haven't even seen reservations or ever participated in indigenous culture.
You are who you are!
@@etruscancivilization#UnitedWesternHemisphericTribes WE ARE ONE, IN GOD WE TRUST. We never sold the promise land.
@@etruscancivilization I say indigenous because my family also has latin American heritage too.
@@etruscancivilization indigenous meaning is they're ancesters who resided in a place or region for a very long time. I can say that because I'm native with my whole family being on a reservation with our old teaching still being taught today.
Yes you can.
Did you ever hear the story of Archibald Stansfield Belaney? The movie "Grey Owl" was about his story in the 1930s. He took on an indigenous identity in Canada and actually did lecture tours. He was totally English! I think it would be better to remain who you are and learn about a culture rather than pretend you are part of that culture. I would think you might receive more respect that way.
I have a lot of respect for Grey Owl. Don't you? He was always keeping animals in his room back in Hastings, England. He loved being in the woods in the area. After completing high school and working for a couple of years in an office, his aunts agreed to send him to Canada. He worked at Eaton's for a bit and, then, after earning some money, went North to a resort of which there were many in the northern Ontario wilderness. He was taught the ways of the wilderness and worked as a hand in these wilderness camps and also, trapped in the winter. He served in the World War and came back wounded seriously in the foot. He met a young woman much younger than he and went off to trap with her. When he couldn't get enough beaver and his partner was sickened by the killing of the beaver for the fur, he turned to writing about the outdoors, the wilderness. He got paid for these articles and eventually, wrote a book about the wilderness. He, then, went on a lecture tour of England and came back. He wrote some more. He was given a cabin in Saskatchewan by the national parks service because they thought his presence would attract tourists. Then, he went on another lecture tour of England and made a couple stops in Montreal and Toronto. Shortly after, he was found unconscous in his cabin and he died at 49. When it was revealed that he was a bogus "Indian" a short time after his death, sales of his book plummeted, although they have never gone out of print. I haven't seen the whole movie just excerpts on You Tube. Is it available on line? I guess Grey Owl figured he create more of a buzz if he appeared as an Indian rather than a bourgeois Englishman who happened to like living in the bush.
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The movie is excellent! Love the ending but I won't be a spoiler. I'm not sure if it is available on line. I had it on VHS.. You could probably pay amazon a few bucks to stream it.
@@James-oi7mz It was never released to theatres in the U.S. Pretty obvious why it wouldn't be. It never made its money back. The few bits I've seen on You Tube certainly are intriguing. It was shot near Ottawa on the Quebec side of the Ottawa River.
@@dinkster1729 That's unfortunate. Excellent movie. Do you have Roku? I found it on there.
@@dinkster1729 ruclips.net/video/xKow7jl441Q/видео.html
"2nd Hand Embarrassment." HA! I'm stealing that! 😂
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I like the candor of your channel. Second gen Italian myself. But don't care what anybody's background is. Variety is the spice of life. Thanks for shining a light on history and culture. Very cool.
Second generation Italian living in the U.S., I presume. If you were living in Italy, you'd have more generations than that under your belt probably.
I was talking to my Dad about how much different he (and as such, his family...) is from my mom. And how growing up, I didn't think I looked like his family and I didn't see myself in mom's family either. For context, I'm of European descent but Dad is English, Scottish, Irish, Dutch, Scandinavian, French and Mom is Cajun French, Quebecois French, Scottish, New Orleans Creole French, Irish, German, and Sicilian.
So with that context, I was lamenting how I didn't look like any of my cousins and he said ... "that was on purpose .... I didn't want to look like my family. I hated the way I looked, my skin color, my hair color, al of it...." And I was heart broken. He grew up in the 60's and at the time he was a super progressive hippy artist type person. And I can't help but wonder if some kind of self-hatred was created on a society level broadly because of what you're talking about. The lack of an identification of a culture among the families that have been here .... in the states a long time.
In addition to the differences between my 2 parents visually .... my dad's family is hundreds of years? Maybe ... but no later than the early 1800's .... removed from his most recent ancestor. Mom? Her grandfather was Italian. And I can't help but think that there's a huge difference there. I'm way more interested in my mom's family history than my dad's ... why? And while I would never do what these women have done ... I sort of get it but I have SO MANY cultures that are part of my history I wouldn't even know where to start to fully accept all of them into who I am so I settle for each of my parents and that has to be enough ... I still know their histories though ... I'm not a monster ;)
This docu "The Pretendians" is really good! They found 10,000s of people claiming to be one ethnicity when their ancestors are actually from a totally diff region cuz there’s legit social and financial benefits. Had no idea it was that bad!
What is the financial benefit? My grandmother was Oglala Lakota and there was no financial benefit for her.
@@erikamantell7301 tax-free gas and cars
@@erikamantell7301 and grants, jobs as tenured professors, book sales
Where is this tax free gas and cars? I am Navajo, live on the Navajo Reservation and still pay taxes on gas and cars.
@@RonJacksonToahani Canada
Like most Americans, I’m a mut. I was never taught nor have I ever perceived this as a detriment. I never felt ‘without a culture’ and have always felt free to experience whatever culture was available. I was born in New Orleans and now live outside Chicago. There’s been a lot to see in my 63 years and I won’t stop experiencing new things till I’m dead. Vive la difference!
Mut? Most White Americans are 100% Europeans so why would that be muttly in any way shape or form? Unlike most African Americans. We are not 100% African.
I would sue them for trying claim any benefits that may be given POC.
I don’t understand why the Jewish woman wasn’t proud of being mixed Ashkenazi and Sephardi. I found it fascinating when I found the paper trail of one of my Sephardic ancestors, and how he went to Thessaloniki in Greece. I found it fascinating that from Greece they ended up in Poland. It was amazing to see how the surnames changed from Hebrew ones to Ashkenazi ones in Yiddish. I am sure she would have fascinating stories like this too. It’s amazing to read about the villages my forebears lived in. Seeing their names written in Hebrew is interesting, and finding out that my Y-Haplogroup lineage is Levite is something to be proud of. She should see the richness in her own heritage, as every culture is rich in its own unique way.
Alot of folks are not really who they "think" they are. They have been told lies or half truths by family. People go figure it out you can sense when things don't add up and don't feel right.
I grew up thinking I am 1/8th native American. I am going to do an ancestry to see if my dad was told the truth.
So it’s okay for a biological man to identify as a woman, compete in women’s sports and get praised for winning but it’s not okay to “identify” as another race or culture? Why? Since gender identity is now based on one’s feelings and not biological science, why can’t everything else be based on feelings as well? We’re supposed to recognize that a person with biologically male anatomy as a female, a real female, why can’t a white person identify as a black and vice versa? We have biological men legally allowed in women’s private spaces, in women’s sports, so why is this any different?
Part Italian ancestry but not "Latin"? Me scratching my head and then remembering we're talking about America lol!
The original Latins. 🤣
@@jdee3421In Italy we're not latins. Ancient Romans died many thousands years ago.Anyway Italian,Spanish, Portuguese and French are latin languages 'cause all derive from Latin but there 's not a latin race and we Italians do not identifiy ourselves as Latins
@@emanuelamattioli6743 As a fellow Italian, I can not agree with you. The only truth you said is ancient Roman culture died many years ago. But we Italians are their descendants. Sounds to me like you are in a state of denial of your ancestry. Besides, NOBODY is Latin today. It is a long lost culture. When people say they are are "Latin" it is always meant in ancestral terms.
@@markantony3875isn’t the modern use of Latin in reference to culture more to do with sharing historic connections through language and conquest as much as and maybe more than genetic inheritance?
@@lindyashford7744 Latin reference is always historic at this point. The Latins were from Europe and their genes are carried down from those European people around the world. BTW, Latin is an English language derived word only. It is Latino/Latina in Italian. The confusion arrived when some people in the U.S. government decided to misuse the words as short hand for Latin America. Which was and is wrong. It is also incredibly racist for the U.S. to do that because it changes the original historic meaning of the word AND at the same time it tries to lump all the people south of the U.S. border into one group. Culture? What culture? There isn't a culture in the modern world today that is like the original Roman culture.
I agree that i think it has a lot to do with the creation of "white." In addition, many people don't understand the nuance of indigenous ancestry and identity. I have indigenous ancestry and have been a part of a community of native folk from across the continent, but i don't represent myself as a member of a particular tribe or an authority on it.
Also, i find it hilarious when people say they aren't "white," they are "Latin," or when someone says "so and so is not Latino, they are Italian" just ridiculous all around. People get mad at me when I say well I'm Acadian, so I'm also Latin-American. "That's not what it means!" And they never can explain exactly what it is.
Well anyway, good video, again. 😊
Totally relate on the Acadian question. On top of that my mom is French AND Spanish, but was born in Guatemala. I was born in New Orleans so if some ethnophile asks I just tell them (race)white (culture)creole. That really scrambles their brains. But then so does Latino-Acadian. 🤷
What you wrote resonated with me. I’m right now working on the side of the family tree where we had hit a dead end (great grandmother’s side). Recently I found documents that show they were living in Choctaw territory in the 1900s and the census lists them as such. If it’s accurate, that makes me connected to that nation, but I’m not a part of the community. I would definitely try to learn things, but never try to represent them like an authority. There is a nuance there, and I think people miss that often. Thank you for your comment!
I actually have sympathy for these women. Identity shifting is a hallmark of people suffering from CPTSD. They pretend to be someone or something else due to deep-seated insecurities. They feel that who they inherently are won't be accepted. It's doubly sad that they decided to splash their story within academia and on social media, because their fall from grace was pretty spectacular. And no doubt painful. While I completely understand the angst and anger among peoples that truly own an underserved and undervalued heritage, I believe that these women would benefit from some compassion and therapy. That's just my two cents and comes from a place of Do No Harm, ever. 😊
CPTSD🤔 nah. They lied and did it with a smile. No need to slap a diagnosis on them. Anybody with good sense, good eyes and investigative skills can see that those women are liars and pretenders.
CPTSD is NOT about pretending to be someone else but stems from having experienced chronic childhood abuse and to survive the trauma the person has to compartmentalize aspects of themselves to survive. Those fragments makes up one individual and therapy helps with integrating those fragments.
@@feralLove Not buying what your selling😒.
I love how you bring up conversation. I can appreciate respectful conversation most are so hesitant to speak on.
I can’t speak for anyone who speaks publicly claiming to be something they are not.
I have always loved learning about different mental health issues, and unless there is a spectrum that I didn’t learn about, Factitious disorders (Munchausen, or by proxy) is a serious issues and I don’t feel that it’s even remotely comparable with this specific issue. I mean that in a very respectful way. Learning about Factitious disorders is so incredibly sad, even worse when it’s by proxy. I just don’t feel that having an identity crisis closely resembles Munchausen.
In regards to people claiming to be a certain race, ethnicity, etc. that they actually know they are not, if you are advocating or in the public eye, getting any type of benefit from it, it’s just wrong. If it’s someone who wants to have a sense of belonging, I pray that they can just embrace being an individual and be happy. I don’t feel that this relates to the current issue of “white guilt” that is being shoved into our faces in recent times. If you can research these people, their motives were clear before the recent introduction of “white guilt” so many are facing today.
I love ancestry, reading my ancestors stories and seeing how I am an American. It wasn’t on great terms (most were deported/exiled from Acadia). I have different indigenous tribes in my ancestry, I am so thankful my great grandmother was so strict on teaching us to respect nature and the healing powers in nature, encouraging to stay away from modern medicine. She was not 100% indigenous, her grandfather was. So I can’t confirm that it was her indigenous heritage that teaches those. It could have been that there were not as available as it is now. Unfortunately, she passed in 2013, she had Alzheimer’s and it became increasingly difficult to know if things she said were true.
I’m more concerned with teaching my children about their ancestry and understanding that after they pass their test in school, go research something that contradicts it. Let’s face it, our education system is a disaster and a disgrace. I don’t want them to be so brainwashed that they don’t question things and just believe what they’re told. I truly believe that is why we are dealing with so many issues in America right now.
I’ve only done genome sequencing for pharmaceuticals that my genetic makeup is able to metabolize and not have harmful effects. I never knew why I would become violently sick from most pain medication. This test showed my body can’t metabolize it correctly and even small doses is an overdose. So I can finally stop having to explain why I decline painkillers without feeling like they question if I’m a recovering addict.
I’m not sure the major phenomena is just white women. There are a lot of folks who have decided that they are Native American rather than of African decent, despite no direct oral histories or DNA links. Interestingly, I think both European Americans and African Americans often feel quite divorced from cultural signifiers like language, dress, or religion. It is not hard to understand that people want to feel like they belong, but feel lost in how to achieve that when they have not been passed down these elements of cultural heritage.
You realize that African Americans have those things, they were systematically vilified, right?
I am amazed at the levels of hypocrisy and the biased judgmental attitudes. Put yourself in these people’s shoes, try to image what would tempt someone to do this. And at the same time ask yourself why not? We live in a world where if you wake up one day and are uncomfortable with the biology and genitals you were born with you can proclaim to be different And insist others play along with. So where does it stop? And who sets the boundaries? What’s net?
So these women want to be different … and proclaim to be a different ethnicity? What’s next? I just Believe all of this has gone way tooo far and boundaries must be set. We are all one
People want to feel oppressed or like they've overcame a lot in life such as many minority groups that had today and in the past. If these people looked into their own heritage and past they would understand what their OWN families overcame or accomplished.
Absolutely!! Every family has a big story.
Awesome observation! My cousins who are more connected with my native relatives pointed out the fact that our ancestors fought and overcame all so we could be here. My Innu ancestors AND my Scottish ancestors. It's OUR own family that makes us who we are...and they all went through a great deal.
Over came? Free land handed out by American goverment to people from Europe? That is my favorite struggle.
@@MamaKatt It was free, but the homesteaders had to develop it within a certain short period of time or it wasn't theirs. My grandfather developed his farm from 1916 to 1929 and, then, lost everything because he was "hailed out". He never really recovered from that. The family had nothing and was homeless just as the Great Depression hit. As my mother said to me once. "It didn't really mark G. (her only sibling who was 3 years younger than her), but if treally marked me."
@@dinkster1729 It was NOT free. Your grandfather and the people like him stole the land and used what ever terrorist tactic, legal and illegal, they could to ensure you would keep the land. So no it was not free. It was paid for by the blood of the indigenous people and the sweat of black people who worked for little more than food. It was not free. You just refuse to acknowledge the true price paid for your grandfather's land.
According to the dna results that I had done, my background is mostly Scottish and English, with small amounts of Irish and Welsh ancestry. Therefore, I am a white woman and cannot claim any other background (nor would I ever think of doing something like that.)
I think the reason that some white women are trying to pass off as being other races is because of colonialism and maybe some shame about being white. And it is true that Europeans (the English in particular) were extremely cruel, racist, etc. However, European culture can still be beautiful and worth celebrating. As are other cultures, including Native American culture. I especially love my Scottish ancestry and enjoy learning about it.
I think that we all need to be true to who we are and celebrate one another's unique heritage. Don't try to be something that we aren't.
I am sorry but as a Black person, I think this is hilarious!🤣🤣🤣🤣
You are an ISRAELITE. Daniel 7:25
King James Version
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Me too 🖤
Same, this is worst than that time a German white tried to change her gender to black on Maury Povich😅
@@mjulianleekeep your delusion to yourself this the 21st century
If you don't look like this↪👨🏿👩🏿 your not Black.
A tree without roots can’t stand.
A tree without roots won’t grow.
A peacock without feathers can’t show.
A person without knowledge won’t know.
These people either don’t know their own history, are ashamed of themselves or just seek attention , maybe a combination of all the above. It’s important to know your history and past. I’m glad that I kept in touch with my roots and believe me it feels good! If you go to Germany and the Netherlands you’ll see very quickly how many dialects exist within each of these countries, as well as regional foods and customs even. So with that said, no matter where your ancestors came from, embrace it!
Reminds me of when Hliaria Baldwin got called out for pretending to be Spanish.
Reminds me of a lot of people lol
Her cucumber thing made me almost cry with horror.
It isn't yikes.. that'd be like me asking why Indians, Africans and people from around the world are wearing European's traditional clothes(suits, jeans), speaking English, etc. Am I suppose to sit around and say they're stealing my culture?? I don't think so, and I'd never even think to say that. This sorta stuff really needs to go away... we're all influenced and respect certain aspects of other cultures. It's completely normal....
I am not only black but also I think of myself as pretty pro-black. However, I don't think that means I have to be anti-white. So I am of a few minds on this. First I don't think that white Americans don't have a culture. They do, like African Americans, it's a blended culture, it's perfectly viable, and legitimate if underappreciated and resented because of its ties to unfortunate historical acts against people of color. I also think these women may feel a deep spiritual connection to the races they identify with. I am not sure they mean harm or to injure the community they feel connected to. I am sure Rachel Dolezal never meant to harm the community she married into or that her children are members of. I think sometimes for unknown reasons you can feel a thing so deeply in your soul that it drives your actions. Like many things, I think intent and actions have to be evaluated before we judge harshly. White people have historically joined communities of color and come to identify so completely with those communities that the blood members of those communities see them only as one of their own and some of them have become pillars of those communities. Leana Horn's grandfather spent his life as a pillar of the New York black community despite having no African Ancestry whatsoever. This is just another complicated racial issue in a country of complicated racial issues. Are you still white, if none of your social of cultural connections are white?
💯 agreed. I had no sympathy when I first found out about her, but then I found out her parents were abusive, so she left home and brought her adopted black siblings to live with her, so she could raise them herself. Doesn’t mean she made the right move, but at least it seems like she might’ve done it cuz she felt a genuine connection and not just as some kind of sick game
The prior 2 comments, and there are others touch on some of these social implication that affect people, multi-racial I'm sure. I'm black, 70+, my grandfather was a slave. In my 50's I got the genealogy bug , started asking my father a bunch of questions in this regard. He sat me down, looked dead into my eyes and said, " there are some things about what your asking you don't want to know." I got the hint and never pursued any of it since. One of my kids and his daughter have but I refused doing DNA analysis. The look in my father's eye clearly acknowledged hurt!
Untrue.Edwin Teddy Horne was black. Sorry.
@@natederrell2110 I think that is why they told us so little about their lives. My great grand mother on my mother's side was alive when I was born and she was born a enslave.
@@MamaKatt I'm sorry but you are wrong. Edwin Horn had not a single drop of African blood. His father was white and his mother was Native American. His father registered him as colored in order to circumvent a state law that would have prohibited him from inheriting his father's property. He lived his adult life in the African American community but he was not African American himself. See Gail Lumet Buckley's (Leana Horn's daughter) book "The Homes"
8:30 You bring up an interesting point. White americans have lost so much of their cultures by basing their identities on being separate from and suppressing OTHER ethnicities and cultures. They have widdled out the the cultural artifacts that made them unique in their pursuits to oversimplify themselves and others for the sole purpose of exclusion. It's a self-inflicted wound. It's why they refer to themselves as "anglo saxon", or having "viking heritage" when those cultures have not existed for thousands of years. It's why they try to socially punish people they see as "other" from displaying the ornaments of their cultures-- like braided hair, darker skin, certain facial features, or head coverings-- but will appropriate those looks for themselves without any expectation of being punished in the same way. Their entire culture is based on appropriating the distinctive treasures of other cultures and calling it their own because they have effectively erased much of their original, all for the sake of an over-simplified "whiteness". They got exactly what they wanted, and seem to resent the results.
Genealogy is so underrated, I hope people get excited to dig into their own family story, wherever it leads them.
I enjoy your channel tremendously! Thanks so much for your work!
Thank you so much for being a part of it. It encourages me so much!
@@nytn You're very welcome .. keep up the good work ❣
I know I’m a little late to this video , but anyone who lived through the 2000s may remember the audacious America’s next top model “race swap” photo shoots. Yup not one ; but 2. I would love to hear your take on how these things have been covered in tv, specifically fictional media. Another thing that comes to mind from a television show from the 90s that was portraying the late 70s I believe, called Tales from the city . Set in San Francisco it had a sub plot of a character who was getting melanin injections for the sake of her modeling career. It was wild. I think you would be the best person to discuss some of the ways these things have been portrayed on television. Does anyone else remember these things? The tales of the city characters name was Dorothea
Great Video. That's Eugenics for ya
My dear Daniel, that last part of what you said will make a huge difference in how we all see and treat each other. I have always said “ my grandmother “Don’t throw stones at glass houses”.
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people will will try to identify themselves with whatever is giving them brownie points
During the WW2 half of the Slavic populations did claim to be Germanic
It is the same today when it is benefical to not be European and women will always be ready to follow what is declared popular
Why be embarrassed of what you're born as I don't understand it should be okay to be just what you are that's really a huge concern for people who lie about who they are it needs to be addressed
The reason why a lot of these women are doing this is for two major reasons, but brace yourself because this is going to sting some people a bit: these women have been taught by the culture around them that truth is a malleable and arbitrary thing. When you embrace that type of “your truth, my truth, his/her truth, etc.” you open yourself up to not being able to define what real truth actually is. These women have not been held accountable according to the REAL TRUTH about How ridiculous it is to try and pretend to be someone you’re not. The culture has fed them these lies and the culture itself embraces the same lie and is unable to self correct this type of behavior from going off the deep end. Secondly, when you attach power and influence and attention to things like identity politics and race, it’s clear that these women are doing this because they like the attention the influence and the “moral accolades and praise” they are getting from their peers. I think people need to embrace who they truly are and find a way to be happy and satisfied with that instead of trying to be someone they are not, at the root of these people I think there’s a lot of very deep insecurity that’s a little disturbing and I think they need serious help.
Bandwagon jumpers
They always use the orange bronzer. Now you can include Buffy Sainte Marie to the list.
Buffy really broke my heart 😞😥
“Latin” is an ancient language, it’s not an ethnicity, nationality or racial group.
do you have their DNA? how can anyone judge someone’s ethnicity without really verifying it? Then that statement that I just made is creepy end of itself like we should have our DNA checked and on file so that we could prove what our ethnic background is? I have some unique ancestry, but don’t look it, I wouldn’t like somebody discounting anything about my heritage based solely on appearance.
Most of them admitted it eventually…
DNA doesn't tell you much of anything past a few generations. I have documented proof of Dutch ancestry through the mid-1700's but it simply does not show up in the DNA test. You figure if 50% drops out in each generation, eventually whatever "Native" DNA would drop out but it does NOT mean that person is not a descendant of Native people. I myself am 1/ 1024 Native (8th great-grandma) but ya know, it doesn't show up in the DNA. It would be enough to make me "black" if it were African DNA tho' wouldn't it? :)
Someone didn't watch the video, I see
Yah I’m not trying to “out” anyone, this has all already played out publicly
How much DNA in terms of centimorgans is "one drop" and is that one drop enough to give the right to declare allegiance? Is there a "statute of limitations" for ethnic inheritance?
After learning about the history of assimilation and how it affected the Native American and African American communities it’s safe to say that the ethnic bleaching thing is hella real.
The whole subject of identity is fascinating. I was adopted and raised by an Irish immigrant family in California, but for most of my life did not know my ancestry. When I did DNA tests and found both my birth parents, I discovered I am 1/4 Mexican( other 3/4 is Northern European).But many White people have told me if I was raised White and am only 1/4 by birth, I have no right to claim my Mexican heritage. This, despite the fact I had lots of Mexicano/Chicano friends throughout my life in California, even before I discovered I shared that background, and through that learned a fair bit of Spanish language and Mexican culture. This despite the fact I have a deep olive skin color, only a shade or two away from true brown. This despite my having some definite Indigenous features to the face, not pronounced but definitely noticeable. This despite my newfound Mexicano/Chicano relatives accepting me and in fact warmly welcoming me into their family. This despite my being actively involved in the Mexicano/Chicano community in California. I feel I have the right to claim my Mexican heritage.
That is who you are, it is better to live in a truth than a lie. You are who you are and also who you have found yourself to be. Infact, who you are was always there, thus the natural pull, itvwas just waiting..rather your ancestors were just waiting for you to discover it. Or rather discover you.🎉 no one else can define who you are. Best to not even discuss it with them, but rather share n communicate with those who have understanding.
Your half Mexican, at least. Visigoths & 3 other German tribes were in Spain after the Roman empire collapsed.
Without social media you wouldnt even know that people were out here doing crazy sh@t
I agree!
Italians ARE the most LATIN of all. It is NOT a race. Latin is the culture of the Roman Empire. Ignorance is rampant.
Most of the world understands that. Many U.S. Americans do not because of their poor educational system.
Huh? Italy has been invaded so many times that it is a mishmash of invading cultures.
@@starventure The invaders left very little imprint of their DNA or culture in Italy overall.
@@starventure Exactly, that was the soffrito that created the Latin culture that was spread by the Roman Empire and it got as far as Patagonia.
@@markantony3875 Ancient Roman society was multiracial. Had to be as Rome covered so much territory and the City of Rome drew people from everywhere, rather similar to London in the present day. A polyglot tendency. Even in early renaissance times there was a mixed culture. Try visiting Venice, there are examples of African people in art and sculpture if you open your eyes. Only we are trained to disregard them. Other Italian art also shows this. As does history. In these modern times we understand very well that Africa is just a boat ride away from Italy, any cultural divisions are driven by geopolitical influences. For early to late non WASP settlers from Europe places, continents like the Americas or Australia were like the dark side of the moon. I should have included the monied people of Italy Spain and other nations whose eyes were hungry to claim unknown lands too. But never mind….
I always grew up hearing about my great grandmother who was half Cherokee and had to bleach her skin with lemon juice. (I saw pictures of her and she did look like a Native American, and my grandma also had darker skin and a convex nose). When I got my DNA tested, there was no evidence of any Native American DNA at all, only some African DNA and 90% English and Central European. Additionally, genealogy studies revealed all my mom’s ancestors coming from England before the revolution. My guess is that maybe someone in my past was half African and maybe tried to pass as Cherokee instead (or a child of an affair was adopted by the white parent?) My ancestors left no keys.
You are right about the “no culture” thing. When my workplace had diversity days and wanted everyone to share their culture, I just said, “I’m just American and I don’t have any special culture” and served box macaroni as my special cultural meal. (Child of single mom! 😜)
A lot of these that like to "identify" with a particular collective or group of people based on the physicality and total mannerisms that are and were alien to you during your childhood and adulthood. There is a old Black saying: "Skinfolk ain't Kinfolk"! Identifying with a peoples is more of the heart and actions...Than looking and trying to imitate with them in dress and language and other intangibles. This woman reminds me of Rachel Dolentz. There are many phonies in all types. Just you do not do this as it will be cause to delegitimize you. A feeling and cause are deep within you, not overt appearences.
Just be yourself and if you identify with a people and their cultures and the best...Do so thru actions and speaking up and correcting those within your own people and show solidarity through actions and writings and other ways. My two cents. Peace
I think this is so difficult because there are people who have been genuinely kept from their heritage due to forced assimilation of their parents or grandparents trying to reconnect, especially when it comes to indigenous people, and then these folks come in & cause all of these issues by faking it.
Mental health issues.
Could be or so desperate to fit in
Race and heritage are connected but not synonymous. Plenty of "white" passing people have legitimate Indigenous heritage, while plenty of non-white POC don't have a drop of indigenous ancestry. Indigeneity is extremely complex. It's pretty racist to only see Native people as a monolith, all dark-skinned, high cheekbones, wide rose, squinty eyes, etc. To me, unless you're registered with a verified tribe or if your family has connections to a historic tribe, you're not native In my opinion.
What is the difference between this and transgender?
I am fully of European descent, but I am greatly inspired by the histories and cultures of various indigenous American tribes and peoples. I will never deny my Slavic heritage. It is part of my story, and there is much in my family history to be proud of. Even if not, I would deny not my own family history. During the Civil War, my family refused to fight for the Confederacy. They were non-slaving holding farmers in Texas who did not believe in slavery. They also defied the motherfuckers who foisted prohibition on the US, from which I immigrated in my fifties to my ancestral homelands in the Czech Republic..
I don’t like the terms white and black because it takes away our culture. It is a loss, great point Danielle!!
you don't have to claim anything ....for people like schneerson you are one of that things ..and only that is relevant
And “black”? I disagree, Black definitely has a culture to it with tons of subcultures within it…African American would be considered the proper ethnic (not racial) term though since there’s a distinction between Nigerian or even Caribbean people who appear as racially black and at the same time have different cultures and history than those who have been considered black but have lived in the US for multiple generations
Race =\= ethnicity
@@etruscancivilization yea i agree with those definitions say the same there are many people who use black(a racial category) and African American(an ethnic category) as interchangeable given the history of the US.. would you agree with that?
I hate the term "white" too. My mom's side is English settler white back to the Mayflower and Salem. My dad's side is Italian, Irish, and French...semi-recent "ethnic" white immigrants. There are distinct cultures from all of those ethnicities.
@@etruscancivilization " Slav....... can be destroyed..... That is why this seed is subject to elimination, and at first - to a sharp reduction in its number"
In a situation in that we are ...in what words of people like Schneerson are law ..do they not decide what we are
A lot of self haters are in the performing arts/musical theatre majors at my college and they go to the extreme of uncle ruckus from the boondocks
Never heard the term Pretindian but if the show fits.
I grew up very much with “Hispanic” experiences, I never grew up with the experience of being a white person. But I feel so weird trying to claim any of my native ancestry because so much of my culture has been erased from my family and I have so little knowledge of our history. I know we have native ancestry because of our genes and context clues because of where we’re from. I’m just struggling to find anything beyond my great grandparents on ancestry and family search. And upon my journey of searching, I found that so many of my older relations labeled themselves as white. Despite not looking white in the slightest bit or experiencing life as a white person. It feels really disheartening since I feel like I don’t belong anywhere. It’s frustrating to see these culture vultures and see how easily some of them can reap the benefits without going through the experiences of being a poc
This is truly very cringy. 😯 BLACKfishing is all over social media, mainly Instagram. I agree, people are looking for a way to belong to something & be more “interesting.” However, the emptiness will continue to be there until they are truly honest with themselves (AND OTHERS)of who they truly are. Taking on a different identity, other than their own, is just NOT it. As a lot of black people say: “They want our rhythm but they don’t want our blues.” 👀 😏
Blackfishing, yes! Oh I’ve gone down that rabbit hole. It is insane.
@@nytn Yes, a complete mess! 🤦🏽♀️ 😆
@@etruscancivilization Yes, of course! Only the ones that do this craziness are the ones who don’t know who they are.
@@etruscancivilization Yes, thank you. I’ve heard that saying a while back & been using it ever since. Lol
I am a Black woman and I don't see Euro-descended people as a monolith. Is it because I'm from New England, specifically Greater Boston? We tend to hyphenate ourselves quite a bit here. There are numerous ethnic festivals where music, food, and religious celebrations are available. People tend to identify with their European countries for generations. Most Black Americans don't know their African origins. DNA is finally changing this.
Great video! That’s the issue with whiteness… it is flattening of culture but historically as you’ve already said, whiteness is a part of establishing a social and legal cast to justify slavery and make it easy to identify who could be enslaved and who couldn’t
It’s sad that some academics/activists are pretending to be of another race/ethnicity partly to be taken as more of an authority on a topic. It definitely undermines who they’re advocating for..
Anyone who does identify as white should probably learn more about how their history is tied an ethnicity and celebrate that…
@@purplespeckledappleeater8738 there’s good reason for that because there is still discrimination based on race happening today and there are historical after effects of racism In the past that impact us today. If we don’t record who identifies as what we can’t help those who are effected by racism. Taking race classifications out given the US history is the equivalent of saying if we all don’t talk about it, it goes away…that only works in theory because not everyone will do that and we won’t be able to address the present aftermath of the past.
Think about it like this, if everyone except one person in a room can’t see color but the one person does and discriminates based on color how would the people who can’t see color even be able to call the person out? They can’t even notice that he’s doing it…
Race isn’t actually real, but racism has real consequences for everyone
Actually race is real( it’s biological not political) and there no reason to be racist anymore as slavery isn’t even an option, so who would benefit? The problem is classism. Some races are affected by classism more per capita, but the correlation is incidental. The literal denotative definition of racism is race consciousness. Said consciousness could be used for good OR evil.
@@wintermatherne2524please explain the biological basis for race.
@@wintermatherne2524It's not race that's real, it's ethnicity. You can test DNA to find a person's ethnicities, but "race" was a category invented to segregate people; it's never been scientifically accurate.
For instance, my Maori friends, my Himba friend, my Warlpiri friend, and my African-American friends could all be called "Black" even though they're from completely different ethnicities, completely different parts of the world, and completely different cultures, with completely different languages.
I'm an American citizen, but ethnically I'm mostly Indigenous Polynesian, plus a little Japanese and a little Roma; and depending on what part of the US I'm in, people guess all kinds of different ethnicities for me. I have a Lakota friend whom strangers sometimes mistake for my sister even though she and I aren't physically related at all.
"Race" is too broad a category.
As an actual Anishinaabe person, this was a huge blow to our community. This is why we are so 'tribal' when it comes to who we let in.
There was a coworker who said that she was from Oklahoma, which she was I guess, and she claimed to be Native American. She was very white. I questioned her and she got so upset she pulled out her "Indian" Card - seriously!! But we know the history of specifically Cherokee tribes "allowed" whites to be apart of their tribe and all they needed was a chief to sign off on it. They get insurance and other governmental benefits. It was so disgusting to me!!
They are called 5 dollar Indians
Ah she was lying but hey she had a card to "prove" it😂.
Among some tribes like the Cherokee to be considered a member all you have to prove is that one of your ancestors was on the Dawes rolls. They do not go by blood quantum. So you could be 1/132 Cherokee and still get that "Indian card" Most tribes like my own the Navajo ,you have to have 1/4 Navajo blood to be a member. Among the Pueblo tribes of NM you have to one full blood parent of Pueblo ancestry to be considered a member of that Pueblo.
The Curse of the White Man From Town. How amazing it would be if the POCs of the world stood up against them instead of trying to be like them. Thanks for that info. Good for the Pueblos!! @@RonJacksonToahani
HI, my mother made false claims about her ethnic background. Why did she claim to be other than of European descent? It's a tough question. Suffice it to say that she got away with her claims because she could easily access academia, religious organizations and social groups. Why? Because she was white. I made three long videos talking about this matter. The first concerns about her claim to being linked to the indigenous northern Sami people of Norway, the second is about her claiming Jewish heritage and the third video gets into her claim to intergenerational trauma. What my mother did was totally disrespectful and it was exhausting to live through this unceasing series of lies. She spoke "on behalf", cornered attention and duped people. Once she died in 2021 I thought all those lies would disappear but they didn't which is why I made three videos to explain how she got away with documenting her lies "for posterity" and what happened to the family. Because if someone is lying about their identity then they are leaving behind the one they were given by birth.
Next video : how aliens became greys
What "blood quantum" is required for one to declare themselves as a member of one or two races, though? Is there a cutoff percentile due to exogamy, or is the one drop rule in effect? Where do the hapas and quapas and castizas and so forth all lay?
I think one drop is better than zero drops.
@@nytn I am 27% SE Asian, 73% Euro, but I don't identify as Asian. Asians whom I know are forever reminding me either that I am white or "don't forget who you really are...Asian!" My mom likes to go to casinos that are run by native American tribes, and is persistently asked "What reservation are you from?" by locals and workers. One of my sisters is actually 35% Asian, 65% Euro and to look at her you would never even suspect it. Mixed race inheritance is a complex affair.
It is complex! I would never equate someone with multiracial heritage with someone literally inventing something
There's no hard rule, but I think 1/8 (great grandparent) is significant enough to claim the heritage, probably even 1/16 (great great grandparent) depending upon how a family kept the culture alive.
@@starventure You have more than enough SE Asian ancestry to claim it without fear of being called a pretendian. I think that is reserved more for people who are completely making it up or perhaps an "Elizabeth Warren" situation where the Native American ancestry is so far back that it is family rumor and she shows maybe 1-2% ancestry (but at least her test backs up family rumor).
You hit the 🎯.
1. mental illnesses
2. people not knowing their heritage
3. Vilification of being "white"
I hear all of this from my college age daughter. Somehow it is ok to make fun of "white" people and make jokes about "white" food. Things that are cringe and you would never say about another culture (not without getting a label anyways)
I am Dominican and I meet a lot of people faking my ethnicity…. Particularly Haitians, African Americans and other Hispanics / Latinos …
If you want to talk about people pretending to be something they're not, why don't you talk about the Black people who call themselves 'Hebrew Israelites'?
Look, some people truly hate what they are. Evidently there's admiration of the cultures, "races" they choose or wish to be. Add a bit of mental or personality disorder of some kind and they then believe they are of that group. I've known personally some whites when i was a teen who wanted to be black so bad they changed their name, married black and solely associated with. Its not a compliment it's dysfunctional. There's different reasons but in essence they need counseling. Self hate or envy of another, its just not normal to then disown your true self to become someone else...
Academia attracts a lot of woke, which is poison for the mind. What is the poison? Hypocrisy.
@@etruscancivilization : Hush, feelings hurt? Facts don’t care about feelings 😘
@@etruscancivilization Sure. Open mind without the filter of critical thinking. Being so arrogant about your “woke open mind” slows for junk ideology to fill it.
Methinks somebody’s minds so open their damned brain fell out.
Great information, as always, but I think you were being a bit optimistic at the end when you say that these women of no colour finding their specific European ancestry would curtail their buffoonery and fraudulence. The lack of knowledge of their own specific ancestry was not why they did this. They did this in order to gain attention for themselves and to essentially be the big fish in a small pond by usurping identities and resources in underserved communities,. They actively played to colourism by using their newfound and engineered racial ambiguity to take up positions that could have been filled by people in those communities.
You can be white, European and Muslim. You don't need to be Arab/SWANA to be Muslim. And there are many SWANA that are not Muslim.
That’s true but this girl had a lot of claims that were not real
@@nytn exactly. White converts almost all seem to "become Arab" after awhile, even developing an accent. I met one that would say something like "how do you say this in English" when they were talking about mundane things, not religious concepts that might be difficult to translate. I had one that kept wanting me to change MY name. Had an Arab name all my life that white people had problems with and then white converts wanted me to have MORE Arab name so I would be legitimate in THEIR eyes.
@@tiredoftrolls2629there is a saying that no one is more purist than a convert. Maybe the word purist can be interchangeable with other words. But this going for any kind of convert. Any religion. Maybe now nationalities too. 😉
@@lindyashford7744 Yup, as far as I'm concerned Rachel Dolezal is blacker than I am.
I love baroque music, German cars, Portuguese wine, Italian architecture, Shakespeare and Swedish women; as a "black" man, I don't want any part of _rap, weaves nor voting Democrat_ . If Rachel Dolezal wants all that, she can have my black card.
The Sunni-Shiite conflict sort of breaks that assertion, because if you talk to Muslims from the respective sides it becomes apparent that there is a racial component to the animosity. I learned the hard way years ago not to assume that an Iranian Shiite is the same as a Sunni Arab.
thats what happens when a society is so obsessed with the ideology of race and guilt tripping that just don't care about just wanting to know your families heritage as the only thing
Meanwhile, on the rez, they are dealing with real problems instead of being offended because people dress up as Indians. Why don't you focus on the Indian women who have become missing or murdered in record numbers on the rez? How about the rampant alcoholism on the rez? Or the hopelessness of many Indians? Nah, THIS is one of the pressing issues of our time. And you wonder why people find so many social justice warriors ridiculous?
I’m not a sjw. I taught and lived on the Diné Rez, and drove an ambulance on the weekends as a volunteer where I would frequently find my students’ parents intoxicated on the side of a dirt road. I know the issues, but not every video can be heavy (at least for me)
@@nytn Do you call out the Indians that wear western wear or cowboy hats which means they are dressing up as white people? Or do you call out anyone other than white people that wear business suits? This is a ridiculous mountain to plant your flag on.
@@comcham1 cowboy culture it’s not Anglo culture at all. The cowboy culture that you see in modern days it’s a result of the Mexican culture brought here by the Spanish settlers. And through out time it’s been refine by mestizo people.
Do you feel that a person wearing a hat is the same as an ethnically European person changing their identity and presentation to be Ojibwe and taking a job under that assumption? 🙀
@@nytn I think if you are going to call out whites for cultural appropriation, then you should call out any others. Quite frankly, I think in this melting pot of our country, I don't think there is such a thing as cultural appropriation, but apparently there are people that get triggered only by white people doing it. And I think changing standards to allow anyone a specific advantage is wrong. But that is just me.
I love how people can change there ethnicity especially when they are WP pretending to be something else, but my children who are half white can only be considered black American and nothing else.
When genealogy confirms you are an admixed person… tread lightly when exploring your ancestors cultures… or dive into them? 🤪
If it’s your ancestry, dive in!
How is this any diffrent than the whole trans thing? I know natives that are more "white" than I am, where as myself and my wife probably follow more of a lifestyle that they would deem closer to native traditional lifestyles. I have several native friends, and work at a predominantly native company (owned and operated by 7 of the local bands) I do not call myself native, I don't call myself one either, but the way everyone accepts crazy notions these days I don't understand why people are so offended by it happening. If these people are going all in and following what's deemed to be the culture than why does it matter more than a man pretending a woman? Where do you draw the line of what's acceptable and not acceptable when it c9mes to claiming identity?
BTW, I am NOT for living and thus don't agree that this is good, and I think the whole alphabet rainbow people are wacko... but where do you draw the line? You either accept people's identities like the woke crazies and have no line, or you say it's all wrong... there should be no grey zone or you can't draw a line through it
I noticed they tend to be Americans who families go back generations that tend to do this nonsense
That may be because being born into or allowed into the generic American WASP culture was what every American, recent immigrant or not, strived to do. Then, all of a sudden, it was not cool to be an American WASP. Now, you have a flood of people in America saying "Hey, my ancestry is not really WASP, I am really something else" As an immigrant to the U.S. myself, I have always found American's obsession with who is "White" or not rather strange.
Yes, usually your white immigrants from the turn of the 20th century have more connection to their ethnic cultures. The women with Italian ancestry were surprising in their need to connect to something beyond that. I'm guessing that their families were less connected to the culture because of how marriages/relationships happened (just a guess).
@@KatieBellino definitely very similar to my background
I appreciate your take on most of this. Those in academia who pretend, seem to do it to be almost certainly assured of the job she wants. And regarding me being satisfied calling myself white (as you point out is some kind of a wide range of European, etc), I am so far removed from my Scotch and Welsh ancestry, it would be ridiculous for me to present myself as Welsh-American. I'm happy with my ancestry, etc., but I'm just as happy with my white American culture.
We all rainbow children of the Most High God.
You think so,....
Not true..Christ said that some people are of their father the devil.. John 8:44..all parts of the rainbow..
they can't handle the fact they are not getting enough attention so they try to make themselves more interesting.. didn't happen before the internet turned everyone insane.
Tik tok literally should be deleted world wide.
American education def needs to be better in teaching this kind of stuff to kids of all backgrounds…it’s poor education by parents and schools that don’t really talk about race & ethnicity because of a mistaken fear that knowledge about our ethnic differences harms national unity…it only harms unity if we already believe like how nationalist do, that nations are groups of homogeneous people with exact same culture…the United States on principle rejects nationalism
“the US rejects nationalism” - please! Lol
@@CreolePolyglot if you’re going to put quotes around what I said at least quote the whole thing…yes I understand that there are nationalist and nationalism is alive and well in the United States(and that we ought to rebuke it and get rid of it)….when I say “on principle” I mean literally at the countries founding you literally can’t have different states and be nationalist…on top of that nationalism as we know it didn’t exist before the Industrial Revolution..does that clarify things…I’m not trying to be an enemy
Anthropologists, archeologists, researchers, scientists, most of them white, have presented people of dark skin whom they can trace to lower section of Africa as one people, black. Which is so far off the mark. The racial politics and world wide anti-black cultural attitudes make the discussion on ethnicities very difficult.
$5 Indian
It’s not only Anglo Americans. African Americans do have some of the same misconceptions based on phenotypes (high cheekbones which really mean nothing) or family lore just like others. A couple of good books on the subject is “Custer Died for Your Sins” and “God is Red” by Vine Deloria Jr. (Standing Rock Sioux). Both are free on internet archive.
Those are great books! I read them in college 1,000 years ago. Might need to reread
African Americans also have a cult where they brainwash their people into thinking they are the real native americans, the real asians, the real italians, greeks, irish, etc
I think it all comes down to the type of mental status these people have.
From the examples given and from my own experience, they all seem to have a desire to be noticed and valued by other people.
So no matter what they get attention.
They can live off of people's appreciation of the race or gain victimhood pity when people don't appreciate the race.
That is the literal definition of a racist because to a racist all things are racial.
In some places if you are 1/72 you can claim you are a native American and a member of some tribe----even though you were never brought up with any affiliation with that group or tribe.
If people can choose their gender, then why can't they choose their race?🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
I’ve tried to think about this a bit
This is frustrating. My mother is aboriginal and Māori, Irish. My father was from Canada and has a Siberian father. I look Russian as crap. Like eartha kits daughter. It’s difficult to not be seen as one of these people. I was raised by my mother and grandmother, I don’t know European culture. I was raised traditionally. Also fun fact. Africa isn’t responsible for all skin colour that’s dark. Melanesia and Australia has no African ancestry. Much love.
I think having the ancestry is 100% different than pretending to have it. It's not about looking like a stereotype, but embracing your actual family history. Whatever your roots, you should embrace them. You have a cool mix!