That is the computer interfaces I have in my studio!! (UMC1820+ADA8200) Thanks for the video! I currently have it set up for 5.1 mixing. (I also just got a Realistic PZM and will mod it like yours.)
Now THIS is what I was looking for. Very precise and clear. I got my ada8200 few days ago and the one thing I'm already vaguely complaining about (even before I get started) is the fact that the phantom power generates +48v for each and every mic input in the adat interface. I guess that's what makes it cheap compared to other adat interfaces. I worked my way around plugging to it exclusively condenser mics, just in case and so to be sure I'll never blow up a dynamic capsule by accident. This needs to be said I think
I just picked one up to use with my little studio setup. This device is going to function as a digital patch bay. I have ADAT connections on my UAD Apollo and on the Midas M32R. I don't have enough line in and outs for my outboard gear, so the ADA8200 will become the in and out for each channel of compression, EQ, etc required for connection to the outboard gear. I will just dedicate an input and output pair to each stereo device, and single channels to single devices. Then patch them in (like inserts) as needed.
Just bought this afternoon my new 8200 Just to link to the Behringer UMC 1820 and was search ing for a tutorial like this: found and Is a beautiful useful one! tank you!!
Thank you for a really clear explanation of `a subject that was baffling me. My old band has a 50th reunion coming up `and I want to record directly to Cubase. I'd already got the UMC820 and the ADA820 will give me eight more channels. Love your presentation style - relaxed yet authoritative. You're a natural teacher.
Just picked the ada8200 up and it worked! For the 1 cable setup, i had to have the cable plugged into the out on my ada8200 and the in into the interface, the plugs were flipped in the vid but your description was correct
I have had both of these units for quite awhile and was really frustrated with the strange latency I was getting from the ADA8200. turns out, I didn't have two optical cables to make sure the sync was right. Thanks for this, so important.
If anyone here is thinking of getting 4 of these with the RME USB card, I would recommend going for the PCIe version instead (RME HDSPe RayDAT). It should provide lower latency and more stability under heavy load. Additionally get the Word Clock module to sync all the devices.
WHAT driver were you using for these? 1 of the WAV drivers or 1 of the ASIO drivers? I use Mixcraft 10.5 Pro, & I used it last week to rec a rehearsal, but all the inputs come out as PAIRS, ie 1-8/1 or 2, 1-8/3 or 4 etc. I guessed that for each pair you needed to select a L or R channel to get them separate? It worked but I am not sure IF that is necessary to get separate inputs for each track simultaneously! THAT was with ASIO4ALL driver! Any thoughts? Cheers!
I see you gave a lot of gain to Input 1 on 8200, is there any distortion or ‘over colored ‘ ? I’m asking because I have this confusing. The signal after going to 8200 inputs are quite low, I’m not sure if it is correct to twist knob or not.
Ok I'm confused. Do I need adat cables, a coaxial cable, or both? It sounds like you're saying I can choose between adat or coaxial, but another video I watched said both are needed. I have mine on it's way in the mail. I'm trying to understand this thing before it comes.
Hi. I have a question regarding the option for the RME Digiface USB hooked up to up to 4 Behringer ADA8200. In this scenario, is the RME Digiface acting as the audio interface? I don't know much about this product, never heard of it until now. Is this an interface without any Preamps of it's own but designed to support several ADAT expansion units? Cheers
"is the RME Digiface acting as the audio interface" ? - yes in a way biut the data dfevices are the physical ins & outs.... admittedly in terms of monitoring connections for things like headphones it's not as convenient as a regular interface with such features onboard, so probably the best thing to do is add-on a cheap tablet mixer connected to your designated master L/R main output pair on one of the devices & this tablet can then connect to your speakers & headphones giving easy volume control to both
How would I connect 3 devices. I have now UMC1820 ADAT connected to Focusrite 18i20 as slave. I have a ADA8200 and how do I connect this in the chain to get all of my 24 I/O?? My ADATs are used in the other 2 units. How do I connect these? is my only option through SPDIF or?
I had to switch back and forth between the 44.1 and adat before it stopped clicking and popping. Was about to pull my hair out since it's racked and the rear isn't accessible lol.
HI there. Have you tried patching a TOSLINK cable from ADAT OUT to ADAT IN ... to make the unit a standalone Mic Pre ? I suppose this will work, but I cannot find any information on it :) Kind regards Nils
YES! Absolutely works. My orig 16-track setup with the ADA8200 was with my (now obsolete) Mackie Firewire Blackbird Onyx. I ran parallel Word Clock cables to both the Mackie and the Behringer which allowed me to have complete flexibility on the OUTPUT sections of each. I ran a TOSLINK splitter from the ADA8200 Output which allowed me to feed BOTH the Mackie (ADAT input, for DAW capture) and the Behringer dig-input. That gave me a "pass-thru" signal for each of the 8 mic inputs of the ADA8200 (which I patched to an external PA-only mixer for room sound reinforcement). Worked great----and "faked" outputs for the Behringer as a satellite of another digital device, when it was actually signal from it's own "front-end". My current setup with a Focusrite i1820 doesn't allow this flexibility for ADAT inputs 🙁 and so I'm forced to get ADA8200 outputs driven "round-trip" from my DAW.
great walkthrough. I need more inputs for stuff like mpc, ipad iphone and other sound sources. I was wondering, could i slave the UMC1820 to my existent babyface Pro? I think it should work, but my question would be, what do you think would make more sense, getting the ADA8200 or the UMC1820? Besides the price maybe there is other funtionability wins in slaving the interface? Cheers
you cant sync the UMC1820 to the Babyface, but you CAN make an aggregate device in mac OS of the two devices, but then you can do that with any combinations of audio devices. However it makes no sense getting the UMC cos you have all the extras u need like s/pdif & midi etc on the babyface, but getting the ada8200 would simply add all those extra analog mic pre's and line in/outs to the babyface.. if you need 8 extra mic/line pre's & maybe also the ada8200's extra outs (less required outside of a hardware traditional studio setup) then go for it, but do you need 8 extra mic pre's or line inputs? if you aren't recording multitrack mics or needing to bring larger amounts of external hardware outputs into a DAW onboard mix, then the answer is no i guess.
@@dancetech thanks for your answer. really its more the line inputs, not more mic inputs, but i dont seem to find a perfect match for that , maybe you know of something?
nice, thanks. I know its a lot of work, but now you can use UA LUNA on a mac with any interface, any chance of doing a song from scratch, just like you did with garageband and logic - pretty please.
You can. I would like for someone to explain the benefit of getting ada8200 instead of second 1820 (both having the same preamps and ASIO supporting more than one interface).
The power source fry after 5 days of using it. beware of the heat. if you keep it in a room or use it in live, were is over 28 Celsius, the power transformer inside the ADA8200 will fry. it is all over the net, but i found that after my ADA8200 was not working. Now I am trying to repair it . I will ask the electronic service to find a way to make an external power supply so it won't fry again. I am very sorry that I bought this. I must be a design fault. I am not the only one with this issue.
please help. im using one cable only connected from adat out of the ada8200 connectd to my umc adat in. am i doing anuthing wrong? seems to work fine only if i select 48k on the ada8200. please reply
lloa I think I should write that your volume is generally lower than other uploads that I listen to. Checking the output volume of the recorded videos would be good. A compressor on the way out would make sure on volume, but check on your end of things.
@@berto6063 Yeah, so now he will sure react to this when being alerted. I compare to news studio channels with speakers and others. Thanks for the concern
On this subject, have knowledge of the wireless clip on mic for iPhone that is useful when moving around rigs and consoles. A very good tool and a narrator compressor sure would lift it up
just bought the ADA to go with my 1820. Such a great, affordable recording set up.
Glad you are making videos again. Great blue collar recording tips, love it.
That is the computer interfaces I have in my studio!! (UMC1820+ADA8200) Thanks for the video! I currently have it set up for 5.1 mixing. (I also just got a Realistic PZM and will mod it like yours.)
Now THIS is what I was looking for. Very precise and clear. I got my ada8200 few days ago and the one thing I'm already vaguely complaining about (even before I get started) is the fact that the phantom power generates +48v for each and every mic input in the adat interface. I guess that's what makes it cheap compared to other adat interfaces. I worked my way around plugging to it exclusively condenser mics, just in case and so to be sure I'll never blow up a dynamic capsule by accident. This needs to be said I think
I just picked one up to use with my little studio setup. This device is going to function as a digital patch bay. I have ADAT connections on my UAD Apollo and on the Midas M32R. I don't have enough line in and outs for my outboard gear, so the ADA8200 will become the in and out for each channel of compression, EQ, etc required for connection to the outboard gear. I will just dedicate an input and output pair to each stereo device, and single channels to single devices. Then patch them in (like inserts) as needed.
Just bought this afternoon my new 8200 Just to link to the Behringer UMC 1820 and was search ing for a tutorial like this: found and Is a beautiful useful one! tank you!!
Thank you for a really clear explanation of `a subject that was baffling me. My old band has a 50th reunion coming up `and I want to record directly to Cubase. I'd already got the UMC820 and the ADA820 will give me eight more channels.
Love your presentation style - relaxed yet authoritative. You're a natural teacher.
You're back! Awesome review keep them coming!
Just picked the ada8200 up and it worked! For the 1 cable setup, i had to have the cable plugged into the out on my ada8200 and the in into the interface, the plugs were flipped in the vid but your description was correct
nice to see you back here K! (Beds here from cardiff & old school dt)
I have had both of these units for quite awhile and was really frustrated with the strange latency I was getting from the ADA8200. turns out, I didn't have two optical cables to make sure the sync was right. Thanks for this, so important.
If anyone here is thinking of getting 4 of these with the RME USB card, I would recommend going for the PCIe version instead (RME HDSPe RayDAT). It should provide lower latency and more stability under heavy load. Additionally get the Word Clock module to sync all the devices.
Love your plugin reviews too
very nicely explained
WHAT driver were you using for these? 1 of the WAV drivers or 1 of the ASIO drivers?
I use Mixcraft 10.5 Pro, & I used it last week to rec a rehearsal, but all the inputs come out as PAIRS, ie 1-8/1 or 2, 1-8/3 or 4 etc.
I guessed that for each pair you needed to select a L or R channel to get them separate? It worked but I am not sure IF that is necessary to get separate inputs for each track simultaneously!
THAT was with ASIO4ALL driver!
Any thoughts?
Cheers!
I see you gave a lot of gain to Input 1 on 8200, is there any distortion or ‘over colored ‘ ? I’m asking because I have this confusing. The signal after going to 8200 inputs are quite low, I’m not sure if it is correct to twist knob or not.
Thanks for doing this. I’m curious, did you test clocking in both directions to see which unit worked best as master or slave?
Ok I'm confused. Do I need adat cables, a coaxial cable, or both? It sounds like you're saying I can choose between adat or coaxial, but another video I watched said both are needed. I have mine on it's way in the mail. I'm trying to understand this thing before it comes.
Hi. I have a question regarding the option for the RME Digiface USB hooked up to up to 4 Behringer ADA8200. In this scenario, is the RME Digiface acting as the audio interface? I don't know much about this product, never heard of it until now. Is this an interface without any Preamps of it's own but designed to support several ADAT expansion units? Cheers
"is the RME Digiface acting as the audio interface" ? - yes in a way biut the data dfevices are the physical ins & outs.... admittedly in terms of monitoring connections for things like headphones it's not as convenient as a regular interface with such features onboard, so probably the best thing to do is add-on a cheap tablet mixer connected to your designated master L/R main output pair on one of the devices & this tablet can then connect to your speakers & headphones giving easy volume control to both
How would I connect 3 devices. I have now UMC1820 ADAT connected to Focusrite 18i20 as slave. I have a ADA8200 and how do I connect this in the chain to get all of my 24 I/O?? My ADATs are used in the other 2 units. How do I connect these? is my only option through SPDIF or?
This is great! Thanks!
I had to switch back and forth between the 44.1 and adat before it stopped clicking and popping. Was about to pull my hair out since it's racked and the rear isn't accessible lol.
HI there. Have you tried patching a TOSLINK cable from ADAT OUT to ADAT IN ... to make the unit a standalone Mic Pre ? I suppose this will work, but I cannot find any information on it :) Kind regards Nils
YES! Absolutely works. My orig 16-track setup with the ADA8200 was with my (now obsolete) Mackie Firewire Blackbird Onyx. I ran parallel Word Clock cables to both the Mackie and the Behringer which allowed me to have complete flexibility on the OUTPUT sections of each. I ran a TOSLINK splitter from the ADA8200 Output which allowed me to feed BOTH the Mackie (ADAT input, for DAW capture) and the Behringer dig-input. That gave me a "pass-thru" signal for each of the 8 mic inputs of the ADA8200 (which I patched to an external PA-only mixer for room sound reinforcement). Worked great----and "faked" outputs for the Behringer as a satellite of another digital device, when it was actually signal from it's own "front-end".
My current setup with a Focusrite i1820 doesn't allow this flexibility for ADAT inputs 🙁 and so I'm forced to get ADA8200 outputs driven "round-trip" from my DAW.
Is it compatible with focusrite? excuse my ignorance...
Out of interest why would you choose to use 2 cables opposed to 1 one when the end result is the same?
8 channels higher resolution over 2 cables vs 8 channels lower resolution over 1 cable
Thank you. It helped me.
Can this set up works as a digital mixer? perhaps the setup compatible with other third party digital mixer software?
is this good for recording analogue drum maschines and synths?
great walkthrough. I need more inputs for stuff like mpc, ipad iphone and other sound sources. I was wondering, could i slave the UMC1820 to my existent babyface Pro? I think it should work, but my question would be, what do you think would make more sense, getting the ADA8200 or the UMC1820? Besides the price maybe there is other funtionability wins in slaving the interface? Cheers
you cant sync the UMC1820 to the Babyface, but you CAN make an aggregate device in mac OS of the two devices, but then you can do that with any combinations of audio devices. However it makes no sense getting the UMC cos you have all the extras u need like s/pdif & midi etc on the babyface, but getting the ada8200 would simply add all those extra analog mic pre's and line in/outs to the babyface.. if you need 8 extra mic/line pre's & maybe also the ada8200's extra outs (less required outside of a hardware traditional studio setup) then go for it, but do you need 8 extra mic pre's or line inputs? if you aren't recording multitrack mics or needing to bring larger amounts of external hardware outputs into a DAW onboard mix, then the answer is no i guess.
@@dancetech thanks for your answer. really its more the line inputs, not more mic inputs, but i dont seem to find a perfect match for that , maybe you know of something?
@@eddiexx check the decription above - linky - How to get LOTS of inputs into your DAW!
whats the benefit of getting this ada expander vs getting a second umc1820?
Only one interface is connected to the DAW (Im guessing)
nice, thanks. I know its a lot of work, but now you can use UA LUNA on a mac with any interface, any chance of doing a song from scratch, just like you did with garageband and logic - pretty please.
might have to do that! New m2 mac being ordered this week
Can i connect two behriger UMC1820 for record?
You can. I would like for someone to explain the benefit of getting ada8200 instead of second 1820 (both having the same preamps and ASIO supporting more than one interface).
@@theAristocrap tge ada8200 is cheaper than the umc1820
The power source fry after 5 days of using it. beware of the heat. if you keep it in a room or use it in live, were is over 28 Celsius, the power transformer inside the ADA8200 will fry. it is all over the net, but i found that after my ADA8200 was not working. Now I am trying to repair it . I will ask the electronic service to find a way to make an external power supply so it won't fry again.
I am very sorry that I bought this. I must be a design fault. I am not the only one with this issue.
please help. im using one cable only connected from adat out of the ada8200 connectd to my umc adat in. am i doing anuthing wrong? seems to work fine only if i select 48k on the ada8200. please reply
You sir, are a Godsend. Thanks so much.
lloa I think I should write that your volume is generally lower than other uploads that I listen to. Checking the output volume of the recorded videos would be good. A compressor on the way out would make sure on volume, but check on your end of things.
I was gonna say the same thing. The levels are really low and all over the place. Them when an audio clip plays, it blows out my ears.
@@berto6063 Yeah, so now he will sure react to this when being alerted. I compare to news studio channels with speakers and others. Thanks for the concern
On this subject, have knowledge of the wireless clip on mic for iPhone that is useful when moving around rigs and consoles. A very good tool and a narrator compressor sure would lift it up
The digital ports at the back are VERY flimsy. Be careful when connecting
It is only me or the audio in this video is super low in the beginning?