tbh I could see the nerf impact, all of those attacks nearly failed and heroes being the mvp clearing remainders threats/trash. It certainly no doubt non max hero/equipment will fail to perform the same result as itzu did. Actually good balance imo
Bro it's actually the opposite, spamming root riders are still wrecking bases, but strategic queen charge root riders aren't quite working very well after nerf
Bro before it was like you do anything place spells wrong use overgrowth at the start do mistakes and you get triples but now you need to decide where to attack and when to drop spells
I don't say it can't triple... actually now it triples bases which are either bad or when someone is good....not rewarding noobs at the moment which is perfect which is what a strategy should be
The main problem of rr is that it breaks walls. Valks and heroes will do all the works. So, either increase housing space or nerf heroes equiments and OG spell will fix the problems
You often talked throughout the video that Rootriders are still on your top 3 list, now I was wondering what you think are the other 2 best troops? Would appreciate it a lot
Root Riders are still strong af. It's just the brain-dead RR spam without even looking at the base that's affected by this nerf. Like Itzu said in the video, If you attack the base from the correct side, root riders are still going to easily triple... Though it will take more time to triple now, instead of under 2 mins like before.
They are still fine but I think QC rootriders is better now since you can take a lot of compartments with queen. For me they are still good. It's not them it's the Hero equipments that's carries the attacks
Lavaloon had high hp, ignores walls, and targets defenses… oh wait… so do RR. Most broken troop ever and it’s not a 15 day event troop, it’s permanent. Luckily the nerf made it to where a 5 year old can’t triple a max base
Root rider are for tank main damage is done by Valk and rc and overgrowth help to protect army from major damage with king queen clearing big chunk of base
I know that this wasnt just because of the comment on my last video... but I appreciate you making an army that doesnt require super troops or that heavily relies on the Cc trops like the blimp.
I use the old method of going into a corner. But I use 2 overgrowth spell variation and I go from the corner where town hall is more exposed and I can reach it faster. And overgrowth any thing that may help to reduce damage, eagle artillery, monolith, scatter, etc. If you concentrate and do a good job of supporting root riders they will do the job just fine.
I have replaced a couple from my normal army with some higher damage troops to compensate for the damage nerf. Not as easy to 3, but with minimal planning it’s destroying bases still in the 4500 range
It's all by design to motivate people to pay money by giving HUGE advantages to anyone with max things that Free2Play players CANT max yet. It wasn't like this for many years. Until a couple years ago they made all the op things too hard to get EVER for F2P. As a FULLY active F2P i STILL dont have a max set of the strongest equipment. All the paying players attacks have been 2-3 times stronger than mine for many months now (defense too). That's TOTAL BS.
In our league wars we can only use a max of 4 RR. I was still able to 3 star at th15 after the update. I use 23 super barbs in my attack as well so between those and hero’s it’s still pretty easy.
Thank you itzu for you super hog army yesterday video. I was able to 3 star a max th15 as th14. Never able to do it before that army is very gud. And congrats on 300k subs
I'm in champ 2 cwl and I'm still seeing people spam everything in one spot without funnelling and getting 3 stars. The whole concept of the troop is broken and I'm tired of it. Most of my clan is also tired and we're just using other armies even though it's putting us at a disadvantage because we're tired of the braindeadness (and we also want to prepare for tournaments). I've seen some people making the dumbest mistakes with spells and troop placements in legends against me and still getting three stars when it would never have slid before root riders existed. I feel like they could nerf overgrowth, increase root rider troop space, upgrade spring traps, etc. I hate to nerf a troop into the ground, but this is basically the new edrags except they're actually OP instead of being mediocre at best when used mindlessly. This just isn't good for the game, and the fact that they have to add hard mode is a glaring sign of that. It also is frustrating that they're adding new equipment way faster than I can possibly keep up upgrading with, but that's a whole different story. In general it just feels like they're trying to cater to making the gap between casual and competitive players smaller, which I don't like, because you should have to work to become good at the game. If you don't like failing attacks, you can practice. It shouldn't be set up so that splurging some money and spamming will get you success in the game
I just 3 starred a nearly maxed TH16 using 10 Root riders, 10 witches and 3 skeleton spells ,rages and freeze spells and im a TH15...In Cwl....I was sceptical thinking maybe 70% destruction but smashed it with 5 root riders left...
Great video, itzu! Could you make a 2 healer charge “how to” video for different style bases? But no spiky ball. I think some people are finally getting the fireball to a reasonable level (20+) and with the RR need will be looking for new strategies. Also, I miss the event kicker already 😢
I've been too lazy to switch to RR. But I just tried it today, with the OG spell. Can you explain what makes the spell good? To me I feel like it would be better to just carry more freezes. This is no flame if u take it that way I just want to understand it so I know the reason to use it
is this still a good raid to do after the september 2024 update? I have been using 2 root spells instead of 1 and have had success up until the new update I have not tried this raid yet.
What a terrible question to ask. Every troop that has received a nerf isn’t dead but just not a part of the meta all troops are stilll used in attacks on the daily bud.
Don't like the tip mentioned about nerfing the overgrowth spell next, Itzu ...let us average attackers keep something that's very good at least 🤷♂️😅 Love your channel and all your hard work btw ❤️👍🏻
@robmarth2226 and I said "true, BUT PEOPLE JUST DON'T SEE IT (THE WALL BREAKING UTILITY). Apparently, you are the one who didn't understand my comment.
Now they are not op but just good, heroes are op, a lot of armies work rn idk why people still spam them I play a lot of armies that don’t involve rr and I find success
ofc it needs to be nerf again because the problems of RR are their HP and wall breaking ability and so far Supercell only nerf a lil bit of their HP. You can't expect the problem is solved if you didn't touch the problem itself
By nerfing root riders, and nerfing defenses to make riders still viable, they have opened the door to make dragons great again. No doubt they’ll nerf them, too.
Nerfed defences and buffed troops!! Crazyyy. The game's end is near at this rate. Moreover the game is becoming broing too. Even in CWL people still spamming rrs . No fun at all. Please nerf these hero equipments but since its a new revenue option now so i don't have any hopes from supercell that they're going to nerf equipments
@@toddday542 yes itzu is a pro attacker, is he using a pro attack in this video? I’ve seen him do some crazy attacks but all he does here is RR and valk spam with a basic funnel. That’s it. That’s the whole attack. And it was the exact same thing on three different bases and all three he got three stars. Do you honestly think people are stupid enough that they can’t copy this? Siege on the right, queen on the left, everything else in the middle and you get three stars on any base. That shouldn’t work. Even itzu said that it’s still definitely top three strongest troop in the game. The average player shouldn’t be getting three stars every attack
Root Riders still destroy my very near, MAX TH15 Base. It’s a strategy that appears to be a guaranteed 3 Star Attack. IMHO, Root Riders need to Nerfed again.
@@ZIMsar10getting a 3 star doesn’t prove that they are op, all of his 3 stars were really close, also the fact that people three star your base doesn’t mean the root riders are op, every base can be 3 stared I would say there are armies that are stronger than RR but people have started to being used to them since they were op hence they are still spamming them…
If they are still useful ... theynwill be nerfed. Again until only the top 1% can use them. This the story repeated everybyear a new troop is introduced.
Supercell needs to fire the RR team, four different tries to get it right (intro, three nerfs). Should have been fired when second nerf was rolled out. Seriously, the level of ill-will generated by this fiasco should be a firing event.
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tbh I could see the nerf impact, all of those attacks nearly failed and heroes being the mvp clearing remainders threats/trash. It certainly no doubt non max hero/equipment will fail to perform the same result as itzu did. Actually good balance imo
Root riders are dead for players who spam without using brain not for players who mastered it
Exactly
Overgrowth/riders/valks is brain dead, still is, and it still 3 stars. It is getting more fails tho from what I’m seeing.
Bro it's actually the opposite, spamming root riders are still wrecking bases, but strategic queen charge root riders aren't quite working very well after nerf
Bro before it was like you do anything place spells wrong use overgrowth at the start do mistakes and you get triples but now you need to decide where to attack and when to drop spells
I don't say it can't triple... actually now it triples bases which are either bad or when someone is good....not rewarding noobs at the moment which is perfect which is what a strategy should be
I just replaced 4 roots with yetis and the strat still works pretty well. Overgrowth and hero equipments are so strong.
Good idea
yeah i did same just with other troops like more valkeries
I love when supercell make super expensive walls and a troop later that melts it like cotton candy
The main problem of rr is that it breaks walls. Valks and heroes will do all the works. So, either increase housing space or nerf heroes equiments and OG spell will fix the problems
Or make it deal INCREASED damage to walls, not instakill
Facts, the walls Don,t exist for rr concept is way to broken.
It kills a lot of other wall related troops and machines in the game
Well said
Good points, I also recommend heroes on defense also have equipment hp/dps buffs.
THIS
They're not dead. I'm still doing about the same against th16. There is a slight difference but not enough for me to change my strategy.
Balloons and dragons.
You often talked throughout the video that Rootriders are still on your top 3 list, now I was wondering what you think are the other 2 best troops? Would appreciate it a lot
If I had to guess probably lalo, and dragons
Super hog riders from his video like 2 days ago
Well when hero's are destroying 50% of base and players are complaining about roots
People in higher legends are still tripling left and right. Slightly adapting. People are using 3 overgrowth spells now. My def log still has all rrs.
Root Riders are still strong af. It's just the brain-dead RR spam without even looking at the base that's affected by this nerf.
Like Itzu said in the video, If you attack the base from the correct side, root riders are still going to easily triple... Though it will take more time to triple now, instead of under 2 mins like before.
@@ibraheem1224 facts brotha. Zap roots is smashing too. Just need to use 3% of brain now instead of 0
They are still fine but I think QC rootriders is better now since you can take a lot of compartments with queen. For me they are still good. It's not them it's the Hero equipments that's carries the attacks
Root rider spam: ❌
Dragon spam: ✅🗿
Yuuuup. Dragons are strong af rn at th16. It may just be because bases are selling out for riders tho.
Remember guys, if Itzu having those attacks so close with fully maxed equipments then you probably will fail lol
For real😂
Root riders story will go down in history being the most broken troop
Nahh lavaloon was by far the most broken!
Once opon a time root rider has 8400 hitpoints
@@Edited__user__5 still not beating lavaloon🥱
@@Parag446 nuh uh electro dragon better
Lavaloon had high hp, ignores walls, and targets defenses… oh wait… so do RR. Most broken troop ever and it’s not a 15 day event troop, it’s permanent. Luckily the nerf made it to where a 5 year old can’t triple a max base
Root rider are for tank main damage is done by Valk and rc and overgrowth help to protect army from major damage with king queen clearing big chunk of base
I think after the nerf rr with overgrowth is the strongest & safest attack
I know that this wasnt just because of the comment on my last video... but I appreciate you making an army that doesnt require super troops or that heavily relies on the Cc trops like the blimp.
I use the old method of going into a corner. But I use 2 overgrowth spell variation and I go from the corner where town hall is more exposed and I can reach it faster. And overgrowth any thing that may help to reduce damage, eagle artillery, monolith, scatter, etc.
If you concentrate and do a good job of supporting root riders they will do the job just fine.
I have replaced a couple from my normal army with some higher damage troops to compensate for the damage nerf. Not as easy to 3, but with minimal planning it’s destroying bases still in the 4500 range
Please stop mentioning the effect of overgrowth spell, otherwise they will make some changes on it🤣🤣🤣🤣
I agree. It’s harder to three star. Need to adjust the army comp.. perhaps include more healers
It's all by design to motivate people to pay money by giving HUGE advantages to anyone with max things that Free2Play players CANT max yet.
It wasn't like this for many years. Until a couple years ago they made all the op things too hard to get EVER for F2P. As a FULLY active F2P i STILL dont have a max set of the strongest equipment. All the paying players attacks have been 2-3 times stronger than mine for many months now (defense too). That's TOTAL BS.
In our league wars we can only use a max of 4 RR. I was still able to 3 star at th15 after the update. I use 23 super barbs in my attack as well so between those and hero’s it’s still pretty easy.
Thank you itzu for you super hog army yesterday video. I was able to 3 star a max th15 as th14. Never able to do it before that army is very gud. And congrats on 300k subs
Thanks to your attack recommendation your created yesterday. No matter new powerful troops has arrived,they will nerfed in the next updates
New defence buildings….super giant, super dragon posts etc
Yep. Still solid. You just have to pay more attention to when you use the Warden ability.
Considering my clan's current cwl, the enemy clan is using this with th15 against our th16 and getting 3 stars. No, they are not dead
Get builders to rebuild walls not just weapons that are attacked , re build walls after roots smash them
I’ve been saying it for over a month, the O.Growth spell will get a nerf. Either in width or time
They still cut through walls. Put a few uterus or 2 e girls with them. I haven't noticed much. I only just stayed using them
I'm in champ 2 cwl and I'm still seeing people spam everything in one spot without funnelling and getting 3 stars. The whole concept of the troop is broken and I'm tired of it. Most of my clan is also tired and we're just using other armies even though it's putting us at a disadvantage because we're tired of the braindeadness (and we also want to prepare for tournaments). I've seen some people making the dumbest mistakes with spells and troop placements in legends against me and still getting three stars when it would never have slid before root riders existed. I feel like they could nerf overgrowth, increase root rider troop space, upgrade spring traps, etc. I hate to nerf a troop into the ground, but this is basically the new edrags except they're actually OP instead of being mediocre at best when used mindlessly. This just isn't good for the game, and the fact that they have to add hard mode is a glaring sign of that. It also is frustrating that they're adding new equipment way faster than I can possibly keep up upgrading with, but that's a whole different story. In general it just feels like they're trying to cater to making the gap between casual and competitive players smaller, which I don't like, because you should have to work to become good at the game. If you don't like failing attacks, you can practice. It shouldn't be set up so that splurging some money and spamming will get you success in the game
The fact that he doesn’t pay attention to his attack while attacking should tell you all you need to know about the broken riders (;
I just 3 starred a nearly maxed TH16 using 10 Root riders, 10 witches and 3 skeleton spells ,rages and freeze spells and im a TH15...In Cwl....I was sceptical thinking maybe 70% destruction but smashed it with 5 root riders left...
Yea right 😂
witches and RR dont work that well, it had to be a very poor layout.
Not dead if you have max her equipment! Just spam and it will get u 3 stars lots of times
I use a few roots with pekkas and titans to kill skeletons and its much better. Just sub some of them out and you'll be in good shape.
Great video, itzu! Could you make a 2 healer charge “how to” video for different style bases? But no spiky ball. I think some people are finally getting the fireball to a reasonable level (20+) and with the RR need will be looking for new strategies. Also, I miss the event kicker already 😢
IT'S THE EQUIPMENTS WHICH ARE BROKEN!!!
DAMN IT!!
After the nerf I just adjust my attack I use 6 RR's, 20+ valks, 1 A.Warden and 3 wizards still getting high 2 stars or 3's so not complaining.
its balanced for max equipment players and dead for casuals thats it also overgrowth might get radius nerf duration is ok
RR is still strong depends on who use it, the giant equipment is the one who need a nerd.
Well said! OG spell is stupidly op especially with RR it d take the piss tbh…
I've been too lazy to switch to RR. But I just tried it today, with the OG spell. Can you explain what makes the spell good? To me I feel like it would be better to just carry more freezes. This is no flame if u take it that way I just want to understand it so I know the reason to use it
is this still a good raid to do after the september 2024 update? I have been using 2 root spells instead of 1 and have had success up until the new update I have not tried this raid yet.
in my clan rr spammers started to spamming dragons now. its crazy they took only 16 dragons with 3 clone spells and balloons in cc 😂
I think hero equipment is the main difference, try with default hero ability
First attack if you had frozen arrow and healing puppet, that monolith will not kill the queen 😊
Players were complaining about root riders so much. We are back to the same old lavahound attack that's many years old. Lol
I'm still using root/valk/IG/zap and three starring so it's okay. Glad they didn't just absolutely screw us.
I use a similar army with double overgrowth and have 95% + 3 star hit rate in Titan 1.
Yep,it still works wonder on my army comp of valk rr
Hero equipment are the problem, i’m using using double here charge and its super easy triple
07:37 - Unfortunately king has no brain! and that's the whole clash of clans meaning 😂
I would rather to remove wall smashing in 1 sec from rr and add it to its super version👨💻
Supercell should nerf hero potion , It's so annoying when my defenses are destroyed by smurf accounts using hero potions 😢
I'm a th 15 and it's now hard to attack a th16 I was before just spaming it and 3stars but no more after the latest nerf
What a terrible question to ask. Every troop that has received a nerf isn’t dead but just not a part of the meta all troops are stilll used in attacks on the daily bud.
I hope supercell realizes that the main problem is the ability to break walls
Can you make a dragon attack strat for th16? theyre super good rn
Can we have a tutorial for queen charge root riders now?🙏
Is it better to use RR with super barbarians or without them?
7 rr 1 baby warden 20 Valkeries to counter that dps loss it's amazing try it
Root rider is dead for regular spammers because not everyone has max hero equipments like you.and your attacks were too close to fail.
Womp Womp
Don't like the tip mentioned about nerfing the overgrowth spell next, Itzu ...let us average attackers keep something that's very good at least 🤷♂️😅
Love your channel and all your hard work btw ❤️👍🏻
The problem with root riders is their wall breaking utility and how strong the heroes have become not necessarily their hp and dps.
true, but people just dont see it (people who complain and asks for nerfs to RR)
@@kevinleblanc9557 you again LOL, You failed to even understand his comment, he clearly said RR wall breaking ability is a problem
@robmarth2226 and I said "true, BUT PEOPLE JUST DON'T SEE IT (THE WALL BREAKING UTILITY). Apparently, you are the one who didn't understand my comment.
@@kevinleblanc9557 I understood what you meant! 😂
@@Hoglaw thanks man 😅
Supercell is imploding on itself.
They are still working 😅 now people will cry again nerf them nerf them 🤣
Now they are not op but just good, heroes are op, a lot of armies work rn idk why people still spam them I play a lot of armies that don’t involve rr and I find success
ofc it needs to be nerf again because the problems of RR are their HP and wall breaking ability and so far Supercell only nerf a lil bit of their HP. You can't expect the problem is solved if you didn't touch the problem itself
@@robmarth2226 the problem is heroes being too strong, wake up sheeple…
@@itskiki4979 did I ever say Heroes are not broken, duh?? Both heroes and RR are broken, you must be so ignorant to deny that LOL
Sorry if this should be obvious, but what side is the “correct” side.
Used your twin hog troops composition on cwl and manage to 3 stars. Thanks itzu
Root riders *_suck_* now.
By nerfing root riders, and nerfing defenses to make riders still viable, they have opened the door to make dragons great again. No doubt they’ll nerf them, too.
first guy really didnt wanna upgrade that mortar
probably to avoid war weight
Nerfed defences and buffed troops!! Crazyyy. The game's end is near at this rate. Moreover the game is becoming broing too. Even in CWL people still spamming rrs . No fun at all. Please nerf these hero equipments but since its a new revenue option now so i don't have any hopes from supercell that they're going to nerf equipments
Most of the game isn’t even th15/th16. The game ain’t dying
Itzu what do you think of the 3 overgrowth army that Bash uses?
nerf all army by 50%. Increase damage defend to one shoot one death.
Do you think doing a warden walk with Root riders and Valkyries could work as a good army?
Did queen charge and RR still good in TH16?
Even though my Valkyrie is only lvl 7 otw lvl 8 with nerf max rr its still so op and deleted max th16..
Nerfed??????
The last base design I have attacked it (3 star) today in LL what a coincidence
It is workinng for you with all those max equipments.
This nerf targets QC RR more than spam
It’s still easy enough to get two stars as a casual so I think it’s fine
Bro was crushing bases before the nerf now barely getting the 3 star. I think the nerf was too drastic for ur average player.
Not at all. It’s a spam attack. Spam attacks aren’t supposed to work. I think they need another 1k hp nerf at least
@@justinjosie5417 pls itzu is a pro attacker and is still relying on his heroes to get it done.
@@toddday542 yes itzu is a pro attacker, is he using a pro attack in this video? I’ve seen him do some crazy attacks but all he does here is RR and valk spam with a basic funnel. That’s it. That’s the whole attack. And it was the exact same thing on three different bases and all three he got three stars. Do you honestly think people are stupid enough that they can’t copy this? Siege on the right, queen on the left, everything else in the middle and you get three stars on any base. That shouldn’t work. Even itzu said that it’s still definitely top three strongest troop in the game. The average player shouldn’t be getting three stars every attack
@@justinjosie5417 wow thanks for the novel. Ur entitled to whatever opinion u have and so am I Laters
@@toddday542 I actually just watched a town hall 15 three star a nearly maxed th 16 in my war using almost this exact same army.
Root Riders still destroy my very near, MAX TH15 Base. It’s a strategy that appears to be a guaranteed 3 Star Attack. IMHO, Root Riders need to Nerfed again.
Chill ma boi... Where u going with them nerfs?
Build a better base. I’ve not had a 3 in 12 attacks.
@@GrimmmReaperz The Base is fine. Root Riders are still too OP, as Itzu proved.
Nerfs dont prove to work LOL. The troop already received 4 nerfs.
@@ZIMsar10getting a 3 star doesn’t prove that they are op, all of his 3 stars were really close, also the fact that people three star your base doesn’t mean the root riders are op, every base can be 3 stared I would say there are armies that are stronger than RR but people have started to being used to them since they were op hence they are still spamming them…
They are still as broken as before as many defences are nerfed.
we need more double hero charge vids 🙏
Where can I find the baselink for the second base
If they are still useful ... theynwill be nerfed. Again until only the top 1% can use them. This the story repeated everybyear a new troop is introduced.
I think electro dragon army is the best army currently
Please nerf loons and electro dragons too. Way too many spammers.
The real nerf was needed for hero equipment
Rr avoid walls ..which makes it op.
Still Op after nerf, i use spam Rr and 3 stars..
Hii itzu,i am the guy named TariQ,you attacked me and showed it on video,its a cool considense hahahahah GG
Enemies when iTzu deatroy their bease with the "cheap" versiob 😮
Root riders are still brain dead op
Tbh, Itzu can make any army..
Give them 1hp and 1dps, the community hates getting 3 stars so give them what they want
Supercell needs to fire the RR team, four different tries to get it right (intro, three nerfs). Should have been fired when second nerf was rolled out. Seriously, the level of ill-will generated by this fiasco should be a firing event.
Who are you to say what they need to do lmao
they're doing it gradually so they don't instantly kill the troop.
Actually heroes equipment are overpowered
I do not understand Root Rider Troop HP 8000 -> 6500 Damage 250 -> 115 Damage
COC 🧠??
Next video "Is Queen Charge Root Rider Dead?"
It wasn't the rr that was overpowered but heros and equipments