@@Urbanhandyman it will happen, the starting schedule will be 4 trains per hour at peaks, albeit local stops only get service every 30 minutes. Future plans (partially influenced by requirements from the federal funding) will have 6+ trains per hour per direction, with 15-minute frequencies most of the time.
@@adianchowdhury9016 The first half of your statement is correct. Regarding the second half, even Caltrain is unsure about. On their own website they talk about, "...the capability to run up to six trains per hour during the peak." I'm not saying that won't ever happen but I'd be amazed if it did before 2040.
What exactly has been the norm for regional transit in Germany for over two decades? This specific trainset only exists 47 times in Germany (so not common at all + definitely not two decades old) and only 55% of the German rail network is electrified.
The United States had the some of the worlds greatest train networks until 1950s and then it became more car focused. For whatever reason, people thought that the car was a modern private capitalist mode of transportation but trains are an old government program. Not realize that both are essentially competing initiatives that require government support. Many train companies were actually profitable and private. However, if you fund their competition (cars and roads) giving them unlimited resources for free, well, those train companies suffered. Good thing in Europe it didn't quite happen that way as those rail networks always had sufficient ridership to be useful and thus kept and expanded. Same thing for the North East corridor of the US to a lesser extent.
@@procrastinatingpuma Not really, when you consider that Caltrain alone placed an order for 21 of these trainsets and that the German trainsets only run on one line / two routes in Western Germany and a handful of regional and long-distance routes in Eastern and Northern Germany. Bombardier bi-level coaches and cab cars, as well as single-level BR 425 EMUs, are much more common in Germany. When it comes to DMUs it probably is the LINT by Alstom. Those trains feel filthy and outdated (One can thank drunk passengers for the former), although I have a soft spot for the BR 425.
Ummmmm... You do understand that our local S-bahn in the Bay Area has been running since 1972 with 80 mph speeds (130 km/h) and 4 minute frequencies in the core, right? And unlike the S-bahns in Germany, BART was always 100% level boarding and disabled passenger accessible, since day 1 of operations. Germany has a long way to go before any of your S-bahns reach BART quality.
i as a European who has family in the US am very glad to see that some of the old equipment is being replaced by modern, electric, and generally nicer trains. great job Caltrain!
I always want Caltrain Electrifications and California High-Speed Rail in California and I always love Caltrain Electrifications and California High-Speed Rail in California.😮
Cal train needs to fix the following things: Their feedback form doesn't work properly, their app has no dark mode, the app is not available on Android, they should install solar panels on all the roof area they have, and replace their current trash cans with new "smart" ones, they still have so long to go...
This is actually already planned and moving forward. The Monterey Bay transit authority and the state have already paid for the studies and Caltrain is already buying a battery Stadler train for Service to Salinas. The last leg to Monterey proper will be a local train, but you'll still be able to travel all the way to both Monterey and Santa Cruz on electric rail!
I would imagine that the Santa Cruz mountains pose a huge barrier between the bay and the coastal cities so direct service through those mountains to Monterey would be pretty expensive to build the real infrastructure
@@fosterandnava From Santa Cruz they would have to go south first to the town of Pajaro. Then through the gap in the hills by the Pajaro river, then up to Gilroy. All of this is already an existing commercial train corridor.
Kudos to you, Caltrain! Although I’m faraway from California, I simply can’t wait for next year when electric service arrives! I’ve watched countless cab rides seeing the progress up until now, and I love that’s its all complete. That’s a job well done!
You gotta have a good source of power to keep these moving. France uses nuclear. What does Cal if. use? It's going to be hilarious when the electric cars, trains, and industries compete for it! I can't wait!
@@dathpocompete for the power grid? That’s like saying my house lights are competing with my local commuter train. It’s public utility, we supply as much as the demand and charge a fee for usage.
Why would you want them to electrify? It seems like it would be a huge mess IMO. The trains run on renewable biodiesel fuel which burns much cleaner than traditional diesel. The freight trains that use metrolinks tracks have Well cars with shipping containers stacked which couldn’t clear the wires. Metrolink also doesn’t have the money to electrify.
@@harysuperbro what in gods name are you talking about. Freight on electric lines, even being hauled by electric locos, is a thing, the limits of catenary are not what you think. But even so if it was an issue then third rail? 😂 also alternative routes? Somehow we get away with it on the east coast lol. Electric would also not be a waste, the efficiency is too high and the ability to diversify power supplies very advantageous. For commuter routes the ability to stop the train is improved massively. The only substantial downside is upfront capital cost for the infrastructure.
Your intro should start with “Caltrain electrification lets us run more trains and significantly speed up trips.” Simple. Don’t big it down with a lot of stuff the average person doesn’t care about. Do that afterwards
Really? 😂 well first of all a massive power outage would remove people’s ability to work in offices so the “commuter train network” would be hampered even if it had diesel. Second, diesel trains still operate with electric signals and crossing gates. Thirdly, since 1977 when has a power outage unrelated to a disaster last more then like 2 days? Fourthly, New York’s network is 98% electric and Philadelphia’s 100%, yet they’ve been ok for over a century.
@@Mauscmkwk Yeah, but they're still dinosaurs. Why would a transit agencies use old breakdown-prone trains if they have brand new state of the art ones?
Quite frankly, diesel locomotives haven't looked good since the E- and F-units retired (and the Alco PA and the Fairbanks-Morse Erie-built and the Baldwin shark and the British Rail Deltic Prototype)
Good! Now make Caltrain as frequent as BART to complete the "ring of high-quality rail" around the Bay!
Lol, that will never happen.
@@Urbanhandyman it will happen, the starting schedule will be 4 trains per hour at peaks, albeit local stops only get service every 30 minutes. Future plans (partially influenced by requirements from the federal funding) will have 6+ trains per hour per direction, with 15-minute frequencies most of the time.
@@adianchowdhury9016can't do it if CAHSR has to share the tracks, which by the way, has only 2 passing loops in the entire caltrain route.
@@adianchowdhury9016 The first half of your statement is correct. Regarding the second half, even Caltrain is unsure about. On their own website they talk about, "...the capability to run up to six trains per hour during the peak." I'm not saying that won't ever happen but I'd be amazed if it did before 2040.
@@Urbanhandyman yeah given the current state of things, it'll probably be a while before we see another frequency upgrade.
I'm loving that Californians get to experience what has been the norm for regional transit in Germany for over two decades.
What exactly has been the norm for regional transit in Germany for over two decades?
This specific trainset only exists 47 times in Germany (so not common at all + definitely not two decades old) and only 55% of the German rail network is electrified.
@@VieleGuteFahrer 47 is a lot
The United States had the some of the worlds greatest train networks until 1950s and then it became more car focused. For whatever reason, people thought that the car was a modern private capitalist mode of transportation but trains are an old government program. Not realize that both are essentially competing initiatives that require government support.
Many train companies were actually profitable and private. However, if you fund their competition (cars and roads) giving them unlimited resources for free, well, those train companies suffered. Good thing in Europe it didn't quite happen that way as those rail networks always had sufficient ridership to be useful and thus kept and expanded. Same thing for the North East corridor of the US to a lesser extent.
@@procrastinatingpuma Not really, when you consider that Caltrain alone placed an order for 21 of these trainsets and that the German trainsets only run on one line / two routes in Western Germany and a handful of regional and long-distance routes in Eastern and Northern Germany.
Bombardier bi-level coaches and cab cars, as well as single-level BR 425 EMUs, are much more common in Germany. When it comes to DMUs it probably is the LINT by Alstom. Those trains feel filthy and outdated (One can thank drunk passengers for the former), although I have a soft spot for the BR 425.
Ummmmm... You do understand that our local S-bahn in the Bay Area has been running since 1972 with 80 mph speeds (130 km/h) and 4 minute frequencies in the core, right?
And unlike the S-bahns in Germany, BART was always 100% level boarding and disabled passenger accessible, since day 1 of operations. Germany has a long way to go before any of your S-bahns reach BART quality.
i as a European who has family in the US am very glad to see that some of the old equipment is being replaced by modern, electric, and generally nicer trains. great job Caltrain!
Please up your video quality to 1080p :)
I always want Caltrain Electrifications and California High-Speed Rail in California and I always love Caltrain Electrifications and California High-Speed Rail in California.😮
The king has arrived 👑👑👑
Let’s add passing tracks in Redwood City, South SF, and Santa Clara now. Also level boarding next.
There already is passing tracks there (between RC and former Atherton stations) there just isn’t a station on the side of them
@@coleallen3895 extend the passing tracks. It could allow for a new operating style where we get more locals and more expresses with time transfers.
@@TysonIke They are, it's part of the grade separation + new RWC station project.
I still have my CalTrain glasses. I loved the event CalTrain put together. It was a truly magical tour I'll never forget!
Always striking to see just how good these modern trains look.
Great now they need to expand south west to Monterey. I am trying to go to the beach on weekends without being stuck in traffic.
Cal train needs to fix the following things: Their feedback form doesn't work properly, their app has no dark mode, the app is not available on Android, they should install solar panels on all the roof area they have, and replace their current trash cans with new "smart" ones, they still have so long to go...
This is actually already planned and moving forward. The Monterey Bay transit authority and the state have already paid for the studies and Caltrain is already buying a battery Stadler train for Service to Salinas.
The last leg to Monterey proper will be a local train, but you'll still be able to travel all the way to both Monterey and Santa Cruz on electric rail!
I would imagine that the Santa Cruz mountains pose a huge barrier between the bay and the coastal cities so direct service through those mountains to Monterey would be pretty expensive to build the real infrastructure
@@fosterandnava From Santa Cruz they would have to go south first to the town of Pajaro. Then through the gap in the hills by the Pajaro river, then up to Gilroy. All of this is already an existing commercial train corridor.
Kudos to you, Caltrain! Although I’m faraway from California, I simply can’t wait for next year when electric service arrives! I’ve watched countless cab rides seeing the progress up until now, and I love that’s its all complete. That’s a job well done!
Yes and yeah of course Caltrain Electrifications and California High-Speed Rail in California.😮
You gotta have a good source of power to keep these moving. France uses nuclear. What does Cal if. use? It's going to be hilarious when the electric cars, trains, and industries compete for it! I can't wait!
@@dathpocompete for the power grid? That’s like saying my house lights are competing with my local commuter train. It’s public utility, we supply as much as the demand and charge a fee for usage.
Metrolink, please electrify
Why would you want them to electrify? It seems like it would be a huge mess IMO. The trains run on renewable biodiesel fuel which burns much cleaner than traditional diesel. The freight trains that use metrolinks tracks have Well cars with shipping containers stacked which couldn’t clear the wires. Metrolink also doesn’t have the money to electrify.
@@harysuperIndia has electrified and is electrifying their broad gauge freight lines, and freight trains over there run double-stack on flatcars.
@@harysuperbro what in gods name are you talking about. Freight on electric lines, even being hauled by electric locos, is a thing, the limits of catenary are not what you think. But even so if it was an issue then third rail? 😂 also alternative routes? Somehow we get away with it on the east coast lol. Electric would also not be a waste, the efficiency is too high and the ability to diversify power supplies very advantageous. For commuter routes the ability to stop the train is improved massively.
The only substantial downside is upfront capital cost for the infrastructure.
@@harysuperlol “burns cleaner?” Yeah you tell me everytime I leave the station and have to breathe the fumes as the train accelerates away
Such a historic moment for the Bay Area! I gotta go back to San Francisco for these new electric trains!
I have the VR and it looks cool on the inside, CANT WAIT
Tears of joy!
when will this extend to salesforce transit center im so impatient
LETS GOOOOOOOO 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Congrats👏👍
Your intro should start with “Caltrain electrification lets us run more trains and significantly speed up trips.” Simple. Don’t big it down with a lot of stuff the average person doesn’t care about. Do that afterwards
Where can i buy one of those model trains at shown in the lady’s hand at 3:39?
I guess it was custom made for the event
@@BrakeCoachnope, Caltrain is selling them on their store for $250 💀
@@sixfifty_sebb which store? I want to at least see it
@@BrakeCoach RUclips at it again removing my comments thinking its a virus link 💀💀
@@BrakeCoach www
Caltrain, general question. Why didn’t yall just tow 919 to beach grove?
of course Hayden makes an appearance
All poles, wires, and signals... then what are they waiting on? Substations?
Probably for the trains themselves to be completed
@@kertchuHow many trains did they order from stadler?
Testing
@@ugochukwueze49623 regular electric trainsets, and 1 bi-mode trainset for the unelectrified Gilroy section
how about level boarding for once
Year of the Dragon😷
Bsquicklehausen
What?
What?
What does Bsquicklehausen have to do with this?
@@IndustrialParrot2816 he’s literally in the video
@@BirbarianHomeGuard Where?
Nice to see, but what does Caltain do when there is a power outage?
Really? 😂 well first of all a massive power outage would remove people’s ability to work in offices so the “commuter train network” would be hampered even if it had diesel. Second, diesel trains still operate with electric signals and crossing gates. Thirdly, since 1977 when has a power outage unrelated to a disaster last more then like 2 days? Fourthly, New York’s network is 98% electric and Philadelphia’s 100%, yet they’ve been ok for over a century.
Tbh those F40PHCAT were *_sluggish_* and wierd with their brake set up
CalTrain needs a new birthday😷
Please don’t scrap those aem 7 that Amtrak gave to you😢😢
Why? They're ancient and Caltrain has brand new state of the art trains.
@@TohaBgood2 they were refurbished and are some of the last of there kind
they were only acquired for testing the electric systems. They will never be used in service, perhaps unless in a serious emergency maybe…?
@@Mauscmkwk Yeah, but they're still dinosaurs. Why would a transit agencies use old breakdown-prone trains if they have brand new state of the art ones?
@@TohaBgood2 thats why we preserve trains for museums.
Music😷
Ralfanners worst nightmare
The electrification looks hideous and so do the new electric trains! Stick to the diesel ones!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Quite frankly, diesel locomotives haven't looked good since the E- and F-units retired (and the Alco PA and the Fairbanks-Morse Erie-built and the Baldwin shark and the British Rail Deltic Prototype)
I actually like the appearance of Caltrain's electric trainsets, for once.
I think we need the donkey, cart, and wooden rails. Return to tradition!
@@shooting4star2023won’t anybody think about the children? 😢