EU4 Flavour: We are a minor nation in northern Indonesia that is the #1 seafaring society with a profitable trade web between our coastal brothers and a full mission tree based around ocean dominance. Vicky III Flavour: We are the leading producer of *maize* and *cotton* in the world
It’s definitely a shame how little flavor there is, it’s so clearly that’s where the dlc will come in, like I was playing USA and abolished slavery through the law changing system in 1850 and nothing happened, I got maybe 2 million rebels or whatever they are called and the confederacy didn’t even fire, and after improving SoL and the wealth of a few interests groups the rebels went away, no consequence for abolishing slavery in America, come on paradox, and on the flip when I’ve seen it fire against the AI, states like Massachusetts New York and Ohio join the confederacy, it’s just so lackluster for something they already made a dlc for in Vic 2
@@Nerazmus tbh they said they'll be moving away from DLCs and using flavour packs to fund updates so it'll be cool to see if they stick to that promise
@Ludi I think if you fully mobilize your conscripts, your army scares the filling out of Mexico’s taco, and they back down; forfeiting the initial state you are demanding. If you only mobilize your professional army the diplomatic push goes to war then you can take several states in the first war. You can mobilize the conscripts after the war starts, though you only need like 2 dozen extra troops to stomp Mexico
The reason Mexico kept backing down is that the ai decides if it worth losing one state vs how scared they are of losing all your war goals. So the more you ask for from a weaker country, the more likely they will just give the first war goal to you.
Is this actually true? I did some testing with this in debugger mode and adding additional war goals doesn't seem to make a difference. However the initial war goal does make a difference (countries would prefer to give war reps vs losing a state). Not mobilizing your troops initially also does the trick.
I played U.S and first thing into the game was to activate the interest of Mexico, once it's done, straight puppeting mexico by clicking on colorado/new mexico, only these two options worked as these two weren't covered by all other great powers, then as usual, mexico backed down and once the truce over in 1941, the whole mexico got annexed.
You also need to add any additional war goals to the primary war goal. Otherwise, they'll just give you the primary and not the others. This will also deter them from auto-capitulating
I did a few American playthroughs, what seemed to work out for me is; rush industrial tech (almost as always) and build unis at the start to reach the cap of innovativness. The American decisions, I haven't notcied yet, so I usually just go for puppeting then annexing Mexico, same with Canada later on. Also, if you do your things right, the main problem you face should be the lack of workforce. Pop down Greener Grass Campaigns at the start and focus on migration boosting, keeping empty jobslots, so overbuilding your provinces is also a good thing for this case. In the game I'm in right now, New York has around 13 million pops in 1870.
America does have public health insurance, it's called Medicaid and Medicare. It's just not universal, they are only for the elderly, the poor (Especially those with kids), and the disabled. We spend 1.4 trillion a year on them both combined, which makes our military spending look like a joke in comparison. It's also taxed differently, and you can actually opt out of paying for it but you can't receive any form of social security (Welfare) after it though and if you have received any social security after the age of 18, you have to pay it all back first before you can opt out. Also I think the child labor stuff should be changed because society has changed, when I was 14 I wanted to work to have some money for video games and that sort of thing, but here in the USA you can't allow a 14-16 year old to work more than 18 hours a week, during school weeks which is a little more than 3/4 of the year, even if they wanted to. So what ends up happening is that they just don't hire anyone under the age of 16 at all, and even some places, generally, won't even hire anyone under the age of 18 like Walmart. The reason why child labor was, justifiably, look down on is because the working conditions were terrible and they would work them just as much as an adult, and back then it wasn't 40 hour working weeks it was more like 60, while the jobs were back breaking labor like coal mining and sweat shop style factories. And a lot of the times the child isn't working because they want some video games either, they were forced to work by their parents to put some food on the table. And they would be TOO young as well, like 8 year old's work in coal mines which is very disheartening. Also it would get in the way of the child to go to school.
To answer your question on 2 of your previous Vicky vids: Doesnt Celebes called Sulawesi? Yes, the official name of the island is Sulawesi, Celebes name came from Portugal settlers that came into Indonesia shortly after the Dutch. Just like Borneo is the name that Dutch settlers gave whereas the official name/localized name is Kalimantan. As Indonesian myself, I can confirm that this is a valid fact 😁
@@thadsul yep the Portuguese where the first to survey this new land but yeah almost everywhere is like that eithereuropeen renamed it or someone misunderstood like Canada deriving from Kanada meaning village
It is of course important to learn the history of what happened to the natives (which we Americans did, at least when I was growing up), but it's even more important to know that mistreatment of natives continues today. And not just in the US; it continues in Canada and Australia too. We don't hear about those cases nearly as much because the US has become the world's scapegoat. People don't hear about their own countries' messed up problems because their politicians and media just point at the US and "look at how out-of-control their problems are, glad you don't live there right?". For whoever is reading this, it's true US has problems; but focus on your own country's problems lest more problems sneak in while your eyes are distracted by ours.
@@edwardheaney3641 You're right, we don't really see non-American media here much at all while our media is quite perverse elsewhere. I suppose what I mean to say is American problems are put on full blast in online spaces. At least the online spaces I've frequented throughout my life. I sometimes see other countries' getting criticism, it's just rarer to see.
@@Hughmong_Us Well thats probably because the people you speak to, the media you read and the pages you visit are American. Australian media is just as self-flagellating I promise you, perhaps even more so, but it probably doesn't reach you. Trust me, there's nothing more pathetic than a simping Australian crying over something they never did, never saw or never was affected by.
I just realized each state has bonus multiplikators for resources. Florida for example has 10% Sulfur mine throughput, although it is not possible to build sulfur mines in Florida. Great job pdx.
@@backstabber3537 Yea I love the game but that is one of my few probs with it. It's like you are hindered for doing good with troops. Have many war goals and troops able to enforce them? Too bad, they'll only capitulate the first one and before any battles have even started. Smh they said they are changing things up with this in the first DLC
US had tons of money in this timeline IRL. The current debt spiral is due to Republicans pretending to care about the budget and going after the 5% of the budget that is science and welfare for children and your mom's, cutting taxes, and ignoring the 60% of the budget that is welfare for the elderly and military spending.
I hate how when nations capitulate before the war starts, one gets only the initial claim. Over time I learned to control how much I have at the front so as to not scare the enemy from backing down.
As an American I can say our literacy rate is lower than 45% I am the only one in my family that can read, only 7 people can actually read, and live exactly like a 1st century Slave.
"Why did they wanted to conquer these lands from Mexico" Because Manifest Destiny was the Anschluss of the USA, but don't bring that up if you don't want to get people throw stones at you
I really want to try to go for regress build with the States - Get the max amount of authority possible and play around with the bonuses you can get with it. (+20% production on chosen states, +100% migration attraction etc.)
When one party backs down in diplomatic play, only the major war goal is enforced. Also from my experience, AI backs down 99% of the time when they are fearful, so I never bother to add any war goal if no one supports them
Ludi having to make multiple attempts to get states from Mexico is a really big problem with the games mechanics. And this isn’t the first time I’ve seen things happen like this. Laith played with Koifish and they couldn’t invade Nejd because of the impassible terrain, which was never listed anywhere. As the US, there really shouldn’t be any reason why the government can build anything, it just doens’t have that power.
Well, Paradox is working on that if you trust their post-release plans. It will probably be in the 1.2 Update scheduled for the beginning of next year.
Let me guess you think it's a waste of a vote not voting for demo/repu. Know how I know that? It's how they indoctrinate you there into thinking 'it's a waste' to vote outside of the two. Reality is it isn't.
@@LudietHistoria if you vote for anything other than the two for any big elections, like you’re insinuating is just plain dumb unless you work with many other people. No matter what, one of the two are going to win presidency(for modern years). That’s not a question. The questions is which evil do you want to compromise with. Don’t get me wrong, I wish we had other options, but the fact of the matter is that it’s beneficial(for politicians, not citizens) for people to choose one out of two sides instead of splitting into groups and having less assurance to have a big following.
It would be really fun to play as the USA, and trigger the meiji restoration by forcing Japan to open its market and stuff, because otherwise it never will.
You have the first demand fulfilled if your opponent in the diplomatic game chicken out. You may try to postpone mobilization to make the enemy less afraid of you. At least that is written in dev diaries.
Tbh it might be bugged out because most of the time they capitulate anyway even if I have nothing mobilized. I wish there was a way to force another country to support them so they're not afraid. Or you know, get rid of this system where you only get one goal.
The game picked some real random characters for that caning event. In real life if was Preston Brooks who beat Charles Sumner with his cane. Henry Clay was a prominent American politician, the most powerful person in Congress for a time and four time failed Presidential contender. Cornelius Vanderbilt was never a slave owner. He was a New Yorker and for a time the richest man in America being a huge shipping magnate and railroad tycoon. He actually tried to donate boats to the Union war effort during the Civil War. He played a big part in helping John D. Rockefeller his start in the oil industry.
Loved the video and got a chuckle during your talk about child labor. The irony was that you had Florida in the background and pretty much directly to the left of your face is where Disneyland is located. A company that is totally honest, wholesome, and great in all of it's dealings. Keep up the great videos.
And this matters? If it did, you would also allow those very same children to vote, but since you don't it seems clear that at least most of you understand children don't have the capacity to make such decisions.
"I wish it were discussed more in schools." It is. It's talked about a lot. It's talked about every Columbus Day/Indigenous People's Day. It's discussed with Slavery, and Black History Month. It's discussed with constant discussion about Undocumented Immigrants. Americans are NEVER let to forget any of these for even a moment in our schools, media, and politics.
High emphasis on such topics could lead to militatant mindset of the beforementioned minorities and aggressive attitude towards "colonizers" a.k.a whites, despite modern people having nothing to do with it. As far as truth goes you need to make on emphasis that it is troubled past and improvements that are done in modern society.
@@troyweatherford2428 I agree. Considering Ludi was taking the approach of "I wish they taught more", it sounds like he's more aligned with the side that'd want it to be said as "Undocumented". I suppose my sarcasm was unclear.
The U.S. was the first nation I played as, and it was a good starting nation. I colonized Canada, West Africa, Oceania, and Indonesia. Industrial wise I kinda made a traditional American industry with major coal mines in regular and West Virginia; steel factories and motor industries in northern states like Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana; and alot of agriculture in the Southern and Midwestern states.
Paradox could easily fix the enemy nations just backing down by making it necessary for the attacker to approve of the back down. Like if you wanted all of the manifest destiny lands why would you just settle for one state
"Henry Clay, an outspoken abolitionist, has been beaten with a cane by Cornelius Vanderbelt, a slave owner." There are so many things wrong with this sentence it hurts.
You're thinking of militarized police. Dedicated Police is a state sponsored entity while local police is something like a sheriffs office. Basically out of the three options you picked, you picked the one that is least American.
In an update, the game should make it so that you can get the Mexican cession after fighting the war, then later negotiate the Gadsden purchase like you negotiate the Oregon territory and Alaska purchase
We can headcanon that those are Zouave units, not Ottomans. Zouaves were US military forces who dressed like that. But they didn't exist till the Civil War.
FYI: If the AI back down a diplomatic play, they only lose the initial war goal. SO if they know ( or you know ) the war can't be won, it is best to back down, and only lose the first goal, rather than pay for a war, cripple your economy and then also lose the added on goals.
actually america used to have universal healthcare via the fraternal lodges, the basic idea was that members of a lodge would pay into it and the lodge would then hire a doctor for the members to go to. the shriners are probably the best modern example. this fell out of favor during the victorian era due to the doctors not liking that the "lower classes" were now able to decide what their work was worth. so they petitioned the government to get rid of the lodges the government did so by making the AMA who would revoke the licsens of any doctor who took a lodge contract thus setting American healthcare back by nearly a century and preventing any further improvement. same thing happened in the brittish empire though there the government just decided to form a monopoly on the doctors via that universal healthcare system. TLDR: America had great healthcare but doctors hated it and destroyed the system
Everyone: playing vicky 3 Me: Playing imperator rome so that i could have a mega campaign that doesnt gets to vicky until vicky converters are released
In my game Canada took one province in Montana and thus I couldn’t buy Washington, so I had to go to war for it. The Mexicans (who still had the southwest) sided with the Canadians so I added a bunch of war goals and had to fight a 2 front war along with my convoys getting raided by the British. I got everything EXCEPT Washington
You can force Mexico into giving more land by going to war with some minor nation in South and Central America where Mexico will also join the war effort and as long as that minor nation doesn't back down, Mexico is trapped into surrendering all the war goals.
Honestly, the Mexican Cessation should just trigger a war with Mexico rather than giving cores. The US declared war over something trivial, without giving Mexico any demands or options to concede.
I honestly chose the easy way out. I allied with Britain after the Oregon fiasco. I bankrolled and improved relations with them. It certainly helped secure my hemisphere.
Have not tried victoria 2 nor 3 so I am totally outdated (old man alert). Back in the day in Victoria (first version), when I played USA I never developed the south prior to the civil war - just curious why you went that way :D
Raising all your conscripts increases your displayed power, making a nation more likely to concede, and demanding a ton of provinces makes a nation’s risk assessment move towards peace. Play with the systems bb
The return state applies to American claims over those Mexican territories because the idea of manifest destiny proclaimed that it’s God’s divine interest that America stretches coast to coast. So because this is in “God’s interest” I guess that was on way to think of them returning the state lmao
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Russia or Texas next
I got you bro
Texas please
Ludi Vicky 3 isn't that fun to watch
@@evenlord7825 That's an opinion. I have a lot of fun with Vic 3.
EU4 Flavour: We are a minor nation in northern Indonesia that is the #1 seafaring society with a profitable trade web between our coastal brothers and a full mission tree based around ocean dominance.
Vicky III Flavour: We are the leading producer of *maize* and *cotton* in the world
It’s definitely a shame how little flavor there is, it’s so clearly that’s where the dlc will come in, like I was playing USA and abolished slavery through the law changing system in 1850 and nothing happened, I got maybe 2 million rebels or whatever they are called and the confederacy didn’t even fire, and after improving SoL and the wealth of a few interests groups the rebels went away, no consequence for abolishing slavery in America, come on paradox, and on the flip when I’ve seen it fire against the AI, states like Massachusetts New York and Ohio join the confederacy, it’s just so lackluster for something they already made a dlc for in Vic 2
I mean... it's a fresh-realease game. Of course there is no flavour. If there was, what would they do for DLCs?
@@Nerazmus I don't know actually make meaningful content
@@Nerazmus Sad that Paradox's business practices have made this a reasonable line of thought tbh
@@Nerazmus tbh they said they'll be moving away from DLCs and using flavour packs to fund updates so it'll be cool to see if they stick to that promise
Preserve the ducats! Down with the pound tyranny!
down with pounds
raise the kilogram people!
Have you seen the markets mate? the pound can't get any further down.
i love the fact that the flag changes with more states
HOLY SHIT! Nice catch there! I went back to see for myself. It's the little things right?!
@@aciarduce The... stars?
@Ludi I think if you fully mobilize your conscripts, your army scares the filling out of Mexico’s taco, and they back down; forfeiting the initial state you are demanding. If you only mobilize your professional army the diplomatic push goes to war then you can take several states in the first war. You can mobilize the conscripts after the war starts, though you only need like 2 dozen extra troops to stomp Mexico
Unless France intervenes and effortlessly sends 300,000 men across the atlantic on age of sail ships.
@@yaldabaoth2 Litterally my experience with the game. I'll wait for Paradox to fix their game and come back to it in a few months.
Also make sure to not have a navy because that will singlehandedly make them concede too.
I was gonna say that: mexico is probably backing down because of the full us army being mobilized
Ludi out here saying Americans are poor. Sir, you are Romanian.
what does THAT tell you Norisk? xD
I think he means in game. Americans are some of the richest people in the world behind Ireland and the Swiss.
Don't think he was talking about in game just think he was taking a jab at Americans. Its the Europeans' favorite pastime.
@@noriskgaming8312 Europeans might have a bad time this Winter, because Germans were dip shits, and loved Russian oil too much.
@@noriskgaming8312 Yeah its annoying.
As an american ludi had me crying with some of these jokes lmao
America #1 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🏈🏈🏈🦅🦅🦅🦅
Crying in shame from past/current USA's actions or crying cos they are funny? Both? Yea, both.
Person*
same, i can't even be mad i just lol
@@Shockwave00010 why would it be from shame ?
The reason Mexico kept backing down is that the ai decides if it worth losing one state vs how scared they are of losing all your war goals. So the more you ask for from a weaker country, the more likely they will just give the first war goal to you.
Is this actually true? I did some testing with this in debugger mode and adding additional war goals doesn't seem to make a difference. However the initial war goal does make a difference (countries would prefer to give war reps vs losing a state).
Not mobilizing your troops initially also does the trick.
I played U.S and first thing into the game was to activate the interest of Mexico, once it's done, straight puppeting mexico by clicking on colorado/new mexico, only these two options worked as these two weren't covered by all other great powers, then as usual, mexico backed down and once the truce over in 1941, the whole mexico got annexed.
You also need to add any additional war goals to the primary war goal. Otherwise, they'll just give you the primary and not the others. This will also deter them from auto-capitulating
Was just about to mention how it's pounds not ducats and then you corrected yourself and I had a good laugh. Love your content!
I did a few American playthroughs, what seemed to work out for me is; rush industrial tech (almost as always) and build unis at the start to reach the cap of innovativness. The American decisions, I haven't notcied yet, so I usually just go for puppeting then annexing Mexico, same with Canada later on. Also, if you do your things right, the main problem you face should be the lack of workforce. Pop down Greener Grass Campaigns at the start and focus on migration boosting, keeping empty jobslots, so overbuilding your provinces is also a good thing for this case.
In the game I'm in right now, New York has around 13 million pops in 1870.
I absolutely love how Ludi has a folder with his 3 favourite gifs and using them in every video is a must-have 🤣
Glad to see the NSA is sponsoring ludi
*loads guantanamo cell*
America does have public health insurance, it's called Medicaid and Medicare. It's just not universal, they are only for the elderly, the poor (Especially those with kids), and the disabled. We spend 1.4 trillion a year on them both combined, which makes our military spending look like a joke in comparison. It's also taxed differently, and you can actually opt out of paying for it but you can't receive any form of social security (Welfare) after it though and if you have received any social security after the age of 18, you have to pay it all back first before you can opt out.
Also I think the child labor stuff should be changed because society has changed, when I was 14 I wanted to work to have some money for video games and that sort of thing, but here in the USA you can't allow a 14-16 year old to work more than 18 hours a week, during school weeks which is a little more than 3/4 of the year, even if they wanted to. So what ends up happening is that they just don't hire anyone under the age of 16 at all, and even some places, generally, won't even hire anyone under the age of 18 like Walmart. The reason why child labor was, justifiably, look down on is because the working conditions were terrible and they would work them just as much as an adult, and back then it wasn't 40 hour working weeks it was more like 60, while the jobs were back breaking labor like coal mining and sweat shop style factories. And a lot of the times the child isn't working because they want some video games either, they were forced to work by their parents to put some food on the table. And they would be TOO young as well, like 8 year old's work in coal mines which is very disheartening. Also it would get in the way of the child to go to school.
I love your content man, literally addicted to watching it. Wish you good luck and faster sieges.
Glad you enjoy it! thx bro
To answer your question on 2 of your previous Vicky vids:
Doesnt Celebes called Sulawesi?
Yes, the official name of the island is Sulawesi, Celebes name came from Portugal settlers that came into Indonesia shortly after the Dutch.
Just like Borneo is the name that Dutch settlers gave whereas the official name/localized name is Kalimantan.
As Indonesian myself, I can confirm that this is a valid fact 😁
Celebes probably comes from Sulawesi, the portuguese just wrote it as they understood. And weren't the portuguese there before the dutch?
@@thadsul yep the Portuguese where the first to survey this new land but yeah almost everywhere is like that eithereuropeen renamed it or someone misunderstood like Canada deriving from Kanada meaning village
It is of course important to learn the history of what happened to the natives (which we Americans did, at least when I was growing up), but it's even more important to know that mistreatment of natives continues today. And not just in the US; it continues in Canada and Australia too. We don't hear about those cases nearly as much because the US has become the world's scapegoat. People don't hear about their own countries' messed up problems because their politicians and media just point at the US and "look at how out-of-control their problems are, glad you don't live there right?". For whoever is reading this, it's true US has problems; but focus on your own country's problems lest more problems sneak in while your eyes are distracted by ours.
Ludi comes from a corrupt country, so his critiques are laughable
In Australia, we hear about it all the time. I think you don't because you're probably in America, but the Australia media never shuts up about it.
@@edwardheaney3641 You're right, we don't really see non-American media here much at all while our media is quite perverse elsewhere. I suppose what I mean to say is American problems are put on full blast in online spaces. At least the online spaces I've frequented throughout my life. I sometimes see other countries' getting criticism, it's just rarer to see.
@@Hughmong_Us Well thats probably because the people you speak to, the media you read and the pages you visit are American.
Australian media is just as self-flagellating I promise you, perhaps even more so, but it probably doesn't reach you. Trust me, there's nothing more pathetic than a simping Australian crying over something they never did, never saw or never was affected by.
Spending 5 minutes talking about the plight of the native americans followed by "Ooh! Andrew Jackson" was 10/10
more vicky 3 content!
Nice!
I hope your yt blows up even more, you deserve it.
More to come!
Thank you Ludi for putting out so many entertaining videos. You always brighten my day when I see you post!
Ludi in eu4: Hehe lets "change" culture hehe genocide hehe
Ludi in Victoria: Poor cherokees are u ok? :'(
I just realized each state has bonus multiplikators for resources. Florida for example has 10% Sulfur mine throughput, although it is not possible to build sulfur mines in Florida. Great job pdx.
theres a land locked province in china that has a shipyard bonus too lol.
Luid in EU5 : "I have to spend 100 pounds to buy this building"
the ai is backing down because it is terrified of you. So it just gives the primary goal to avoid war.
The less bad ending for Mexico, where it gave up land, but didn't go to war!
@@backstabber3537 Yea I love the game but that is one of my few probs with it. It's like you are hindered for doing good with troops. Have many war goals and troops able to enforce them? Too bad, they'll only capitulate the first one and before any battles have even started. Smh they said they are changing things up with this in the first DLC
Also love how you yanked America out of their debt spiral here good stuff this is actually a *better* timeline than IRL lol.
US had tons of money in this timeline IRL. The current debt spiral is due to Republicans pretending to care about the budget and going after the 5% of the budget that is science and welfare for children and your mom's, cutting taxes, and ignoring the 60% of the budget that is welfare for the elderly and military spending.
Going from absurdism to NBC The More You Know repeatedly is giving me whiplash.
I hate how when nations capitulate before the war starts, one gets only the initial claim. Over time I learned to control how much I have at the front so as to not scare the enemy from backing down.
Vicky 3 is out for like 5 minutes, and every video about it is something along the lines of "no one choses this path as X" I love it
yes lol
As an American I can say our literacy rate is lower than 45% I am the only one in my family that can read, only 7 people can actually read, and live exactly like a 1st century Slave.
"What was the reason for the US to take these state?"
I imagine like everyone else in the 19th Century the answer is, "Because we could?"
Americans should really be thankful and celebrate, that the natives just happened to decide to give them their land postmortem.
"Why did they wanted to conquer these lands from Mexico" Because Manifest Destiny was the Anschluss of the USA, but don't bring that up if you don't want to get people throw stones at you
I really want to try to go for regress build with the States - Get the max amount of authority possible and play around with the bonuses you can get with it. (+20% production on chosen states, +100% migration attraction etc.)
When one party backs down in diplomatic play, only the major war goal is enforced.
Also from my experience, AI backs down 99% of the time when they are fearful, so I never bother to add any war goal if no one supports them
I mean there is no harm in adding wargoals, conversely you have a higher chance of them backing down if that's what you want by adding wargoals.
I'd like to see a Sweden 🇸🇪 into Scandinavia
Ludi having to make multiple attempts to get states from Mexico is a really big problem with the games mechanics. And this isn’t the first time I’ve seen things happen like this. Laith played with Koifish and they couldn’t invade Nejd because of the impassible terrain, which was never listed anywhere. As the US, there really shouldn’t be any reason why the government can build anything, it just doens’t have that power.
I fully agree
Well, Paradox is working on that if you trust their post-release plans. It will probably be in the 1.2 Update scheduled for the beginning of next year.
“Stop voting for the two big parties”
Tell me you don’t understand American politics without telling me you don’t understand American politics
Let me guess you think it's a waste of a vote not voting for demo/repu. Know how I know that? It's how they indoctrinate you there into thinking 'it's a waste' to vote outside of the two. Reality is it isn't.
@@LudietHistoria if you vote for anything other than the two for any big elections, like you’re insinuating is just plain dumb unless you work with many other people. No matter what, one of the two are going to win presidency(for modern years). That’s not a question. The questions is which evil do you want to compromise with. Don’t get me wrong, I wish we had other options, but the fact of the matter is that it’s beneficial(for politicians, not citizens) for people to choose one out of two sides instead of splitting into groups and having less assurance to have a big following.
It would be really fun to play as the USA, and trigger the meiji restoration by forcing Japan to open its market and stuff, because otherwise it never will.
You have the first demand fulfilled if your opponent in the diplomatic game chicken out. You may try to postpone mobilization to make the enemy less afraid of you. At least that is written in dev diaries.
Tbh it might be bugged out because most of the time they capitulate anyway even if I have nothing mobilized. I wish there was a way to force another country to support them so they're not afraid. Or you know, get rid of this system where you only get one goal.
Should just let me steamroll a nation and give me extra infamy for going outside my goals and ignoring back outs or something.
The game picked some real random characters for that caning event. In real life if was Preston Brooks who beat Charles Sumner with his cane. Henry Clay was a prominent American politician, the most powerful person in Congress for a time and four time failed Presidential contender. Cornelius Vanderbilt was never a slave owner. He was a New Yorker and for a time the richest man in America being a huge shipping magnate and railroad tycoon. He actually tried to donate boats to the Union war effort during the Civil War. He played a big part in helping John D. Rockefeller his start in the oil industry.
Manifest destiny was the real life border gore casus belli
Loved the video and got a chuckle during your talk about child labor. The irony was that you had Florida in the background and pretty much directly to the left of your face is where Disneyland is located. A company that is totally honest, wholesome, and great in all of it's dealings. Keep up the great videos.
Ray Charles: comes from Georgia
Ludi: mocks Georgia's art record
Ray Charles: am I a joke to you ;-;
80% of children surveyed after the advent of compulsory education reported that they would rather work in a factory.
And this matters? If it did, you would also allow those very same children to vote, but since you don't it seems clear that at least most of you understand children don't have the capacity to make such decisions.
"I wish it were discussed more in schools." It is. It's talked about a lot. It's talked about every Columbus Day/Indigenous People's Day. It's discussed with Slavery, and Black History Month. It's discussed with constant discussion about Undocumented Immigrants. Americans are NEVER let to forget any of these for even a moment in our schools, media, and politics.
High emphasis on such topics could lead to militatant mindset of the beforementioned minorities and aggressive attitude towards "colonizers" a.k.a whites, despite modern people having nothing to do with it. As far as truth goes you need to make on emphasis that it is troubled past and improvements that are done in modern society.
Illegal immigrants*
@@troyweatherford2428 I agree. Considering Ludi was taking the approach of "I wish they taught more", it sounds like he's more aligned with the side that'd want it to be said as "Undocumented". I suppose my sarcasm was unclear.
@@WTFIWFYDB minorities are still discriminated so it's not a thing of the "past" solely.
@@jorgex2000 I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the only demographic not overtly discriminated in the US, is the wealthy.
The U.S. was the first nation I played as, and it was a good starting nation. I colonized Canada, West Africa, Oceania, and Indonesia. Industrial wise I kinda made a traditional American industry with major coal mines in regular and West Virginia; steel factories and motor industries in northern states like Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, and Indiana; and alot of agriculture in the Southern and Midwestern states.
Paradox could easily fix the enemy nations just backing down by making it necessary for the attacker to approve of the back down. Like if you wanted all of the manifest destiny lands why would you just settle for one state
But then gaining more infamy because you avoided a peaceful resolution.
"Henry Clay, an outspoken abolitionist, has been beaten with a cane by Cornelius Vanderbelt, a slave owner."
There are so many things wrong with this sentence it hurts.
24:25 America gave women the right to vote in 1920.
You're thinking of militarized police. Dedicated Police is a state sponsored entity while local police is something like a sheriffs office. Basically out of the three options you picked, you picked the one that is least American.
I can't wait until they fix warfare over the next two to five years in $200 of DLC
In an update, the game should make it so that you can get the Mexican cession after fighting the war, then later negotiate the Gadsden purchase like you negotiate the Oregon territory and Alaska purchase
Healthcare isnt a right, rights arent something you can sign a check for. They are guaranteed.
We can headcanon that those are Zouave units, not Ottomans. Zouaves were US military forces who dressed like that. But they didn't exist till the Civil War.
FYI: If the AI back down a diplomatic play, they only lose the initial war goal. SO if they know ( or you know ) the war can't be won, it is best to back down, and only lose the first goal, rather than pay for a war, cripple your economy and then also lose the added on goals.
POV you saw that black spot on the bottom left of your screen and got scared it was actually there.
Recently found your channel, loving your vic3 vids!
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching Jake!
actually america used to have universal healthcare via the fraternal lodges, the basic idea was that members of a lodge would pay into it and the lodge would then hire a doctor for the members to go to. the shriners are probably the best modern example. this fell out of favor during the victorian era due to the doctors not liking that the "lower classes" were now able to decide what their work was worth. so they petitioned the government to get rid of the lodges the government did so by making the AMA who would revoke the licsens of any doctor who took a lodge contract thus setting American healthcare back by nearly a century and preventing any further improvement. same thing happened in the brittish empire though there the government just decided to form a monopoly on the doctors via that universal healthcare system.
TLDR: America had great healthcare but doctors hated it and destroyed the system
I love all of your videos Ludi
much love owen :D
By the way, turkish women had voting rights earlier than american women so...there's that.
The strange things about kids who worked , it's that some people emmigrated to the states to make their kids work in the mine again !
The U.S.A is a complete juggernaut. At the end game I had at least 8 pages in the construction tab building at the same time. Over 2b GDP
FunFact, Germany outlawed child labor because too many children where missing the mandatory school years (implemented by Bismarck).
Everyone: playing vicky 3
Me: Playing imperator rome so that i could have a mega campaign that doesnt gets to vicky until vicky converters are released
You'll have the world conquered by the time you finish eu4 and get to Victoria
I cannot live without you!!
Lmao “Indians are a wonderful people who deserve more.” Not one second later Andrew Jackson bribes ludi
Ludí thinks it should be discussed more in American schools - this must be based on his many hours spent in…American schools.
Trade Unions Intelligentisa Petite Bourguoisie and Rural Coalition? Dude founded the Modern Labor partty before the Labor party was even a thing.
Yes, I start to try this game. Normally, I remain an "old player" in 1400s
In my game Canada took one province in Montana and thus I couldn’t buy Washington, so I had to go to war for it. The Mexicans (who still had the southwest) sided with the Canadians so I added a bunch of war goals and had to fight a 2 front war along with my convoys getting raided by the British.
I got everything EXCEPT Washington
Definitely the best viccy 3 youtuber, gonna have to check out your eu vids
24:38 Holy shit Ludi just spat absolute facts
Healthcare: ok kinda fine
Womens suffrage: 🤢
According to the thumbnail I'd call the united steaks of america
That intro was BRUTAL.
Tons of video game artists graduate from Georgia and get jobs in California every year. Georgia is the 3rd largest entertainment industry in the US.
Tip : If you pass muticulture you will annex indian territories automaticly
You can force Mexico into giving more land by going to war with some minor nation in South and Central America where Mexico will also join the war effort and as long as that minor nation doesn't back down, Mexico is trapped into surrendering all the war goals.
I banned slavery in 1840, but it should have been earlier, It was close to 40% if I remember correctly, and it went down the first debate.
hmm, as mexico i had like triple that gdp at that time, but the budget was red pretty much the whole game
I always appreciate an おはいお joke. It's a sweet うた for my ears.
6:28 Paradox has an event with that joke
Upvoted, liked and comment for Native Awareness.
I mean Vanderbilt University is in Tennessee, and it's a fairly liberal-arts university that is the Harvard of the South.
Hey @ludiethistoria, you already mentioned that Shift would add 5 with a click, ctrl adds 10 if you didn't know.
Honestly, the Mexican Cessation should just trigger a war with Mexico rather than giving cores. The US declared war over something trivial, without giving Mexico any demands or options to concede.
I laughed that you got Texas, then you got Chile.
I honestly chose the easy way out. I allied with Britain after the Oregon fiasco. I bankrolled and improved relations with them. It certainly helped secure my hemisphere.
you should take longer to mobilize in order to get a direct war. Mobilizing makes Mexico fearful
The strays that America keeps catching during this is worth the watch all by itself.
Have not tried victoria 2 nor 3 so I am totally outdated (old man alert). Back in the day in Victoria (first version), when I played USA I never developed the south prior to the civil war - just curious why you went that way :D
I watched the whole thing but still don’t know what this “secret tech” is. What is it?
its the friends we made along the way
But I'm an American, and I already have health insurance...
9:10 The US-Americans needed some nice deserts, where there could deport their natives to.
I don’t understand why when people play as USA they avoid New York like bro it’s the real reason why America became a superpower. Build there!
Ah, yes. The steel production of Minnesotans.
Chamberlain prime minister of Mexico? Nice appeasement policy.
i love your videos (and jokes ) so much as well, espially as well :D ( my favorite being the wallet )
Is the music same like in EU3?
Raising all your conscripts increases your displayed power, making a nation more likely to concede, and demanding a ton of provinces makes a nation’s risk assessment move towards peace.
Play with the systems bb
The return state applies to American claims over those Mexican territories because the idea of manifest destiny proclaimed that it’s God’s divine interest that America stretches coast to coast. So because this is in “God’s interest” I guess that was on way to think of them returning the state lmao