Thanks for that information Ellen. Fear will always be part of our lives as humans but We've got to put our TRUST IN GOD IN WHATEVER WE DO AND NO MATTER WHAT COMES OUR WAY, WE'LL STILL MAKE IT. Thanks for sharing your experiences, it's an Inspiration to many.😀
Hello Ellen, i am an Tattooist, i draw every Motif , and I also paint . what you are saying in your video is exactly how it felt for me, I started out with a Dream, then the dream became work, People waiting, preasure, it took all the Fun out. Now, what I do is i take ONE whole day off ( I call it my Rebell day, I am sorry,not sorry-you have to wait one more day ) and do strictly everything for fun. it works for me , and some of the best drawings and paintings came from that . Congratulations on your 7th year!!!
This is so insightful! I actually hired an accountant to look after my bookkeeping because it was something that was stressing me out all the time lol! and I hired an employee to come print & pack my etsy orders once or twice a week and it's freed up sooo much of my time!
One of the things I think is so valuable .. is the collaboration between artists .. by sharing information, ideas, etc. as it greatly increases all our potential. Artists are also teachers, magicians with a wand brush, leaders who speak through their work to the eye/mind of the public. It's about Art awareness. Great video!
The main reason I hate commissions. Once you make your hobby work it's no longer as much fun. You do good work though so stay strong and congrats on 7 years 👍
I became a full time artist the beginning of Jan 2021 and I immediately got consumed in commissions. I HATE IT. They take me forever to complete. The canvas stares at me and I get resentful of the project. I crave working on my own pieces. They don't bring in as much money, but at that point with taking so long to finish large commissions I could've gone several smaller personal projects and made good/okay/living money to pay bills and enjoy myself.
Ellen, Thank you for your videos and your talent for sharing and, of course, for your artistic talents as well. I have recently quit my corporate job to devote 100% of me to my art. This is something that I have wanted to do since I was a little girl. I am now at the age where if I am going to try to create a business it must be now so that if I fail, or if I decide this isn't something I don't want to do I will have time to pivot and get another job. The years are going so fast! Your videos and advice mean the world to me as I begin this journey. The words 'Thank you" seem inadequate.
Wow Seven years you are a wealth of knowledge thank you dear. Yes I know why you had to become a full time Artist , and your story is so touchy , inspiring and motivating . I am so Happy for you , for how far and how much you are giving back to the art community. God bless you sweet sister ❤️👍
Thank you for sharing your experience and for making it easier for us, who are not there yet. Thank you and congratulations for your hard earned wisdom and for sticking it out!
Congratulations and thank you so much for the reality check. So many artists showcase only their successes. There nothing wrong with that per se, but it's not an accurate portrayal of the day to day struggle that even crazy talented artists experience. Also, "Get over yourself and get on with it." is excellent advice.
My goodness! Your the most gorgeous artist/person/youtuber ever! Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I should be in bed more than two hours ago but your videos are so packed with goodies that I kept watching "just one more". I love your sweet and honest way of communicating. You've been very helpful, please know that. Wishing you all the best!
Thank you so much for this video...it really let me exhale and decide to create for the sake of creating. If I sell my work every now and then, that will just be icing on the cake.
I always enjoy your videos and the wisdom you share with other artists. Ellen you and my fellow artist should never question your ability because there is room for all forms of art. Just visit any modern art museum, gallery or just search artwork on the world wide web :)
I'm forming an LLC which only costs $10 a month and $135 filing fee :) - It's been too hard to form a Board of Directors - This is a great structure. I can change my theatre company (I've owned my company for 30 years) and can make it a Non-Profit LLC in a year. My art work business is appropriate as an indie LLC :) Very helpful video and ideas :)
Thank you for sharing! Congrats on your 7 year anniversary! I've been following you for over a year on RUclips and I always look forward to watching your videos. Really enjoy your take on making it as an artist. Take care and always wishing you the best 🥰
I hav e found from knowing you threw your art that it’s more than work for you. The way you share and how very caring you are to others including me you are going to have to admit it’s not just for work or business. Your skill is without question. Your. Compassion reaches us all. I think you need to do exactly what you said in this video and talk to yourself that it’s all art. Not everyone can accomplish all the facets you have. So my friend it’s not work it’s a blessing
Belinda, you are so dear. I am very blessed and thankful every single day just for being connected to people like you! This shift I sometimes feel in myself always comes during financial hardship when money is tight and essential. I put a lot of burden on myself during these times; I haven't quite learned how to find that balance yet, but I continue to try. Thank you for your lovely comment; it means a great deal to me ☺️
Dear Ellen, congrats on the anniversary! I too believe in the law of attraction and the reason why from all the videos here on youtube I totally accidentally came across yours. Thank you for your honesty and all the good advice, it IS very helpful and motivating.
Congrats on a huge accomplishment and being so successful. Administrative-business work hasn't been a problem for me. It really is sharing a part of myself with the world. That us being vulnerable and being "accepted". Something that has been very difficult all my life. The thought that came to me when you were talking about showing your work and getting your first no, if we taught each other how to open door to adjacent possibilites, just because your work wasn't accepted at so and so place, is that you actually opened another door or window for something that you didnt imagine before. Then led to etsy. Remember when trying new things of creativity is that you "knock" for other avenues to be opened. I wish I would have known that sooner, it was when I became an out of closet Oracle that these ideas and concepts became my understanding. Everything is with time and lessons learned so that others dont have to go through and much of pain and suffering or give them an alternative to their closet or attic that they will feel liberated to keep creating. Ty for your vid. I look forward to working with your Oracle cards. ⭐⭐⭐excited ⭐⭐⭐
Hi Ellen, I am just staring out on my serious art journey although I've been drawing and painting all my life. I feel right now just like you described in your beginning. I thoroughly enjoy your videos!
I am so ready to do this and I am soooo happy I ran across you...hopefully when u go to bed tonight u would think on how you are helping people reach their dreams 🥰🥰
Thanks for sharing your own experience. Its very important for me listening someone so talented like you,talking about negative aspects of the process of being. artist. Many people thinks that working as a painter is fun or easy but it is not, actually is a hard and painfull way. I have been painting for many years , ocasionally selling my work and teaching art ,but its hard to me believe in myself. Thats the real problem, as you coment in the video. Sorry about my english. I m from Argentina. Thanks to read my commentary
Hi Ellen... very encouraging! I know a lot of us have been down your road as well. I wish I had done things differently too. But it's water under the bridge and full steam ahead! It's tough freelancing, there are so many ups and downs in this business... but you hit it right on the nose and that's not to be discouraged. With this video alone you may have helped just one artist take the next step. Congratulations on your seven year anniversary. Hope the next seven are even better.
Dunno if anyone gives a damn but if you guys are bored like me atm then you can watch pretty much all of the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Been watching with my brother for the last few days =)
Same with full time any vocation that was your hobby. In 1988 I started out as the wide eyed dreamy Apprentice, and was was a hobbyist blacksmith for ten years. Yet when I had enough folks saying “can you make me a...” I went into full time Smithing in 1998. From ‘98 - ‘18 I was overwhelmed by deadlines, and so far have taken a full year off.
Thank you so much for this and for all of your videos beautiful lady!! I am just starting out and I really needed to hear all of this but especially #3, to get over myself and get on with it!!!
For an LLC - simple paperwork, in AZ you can go and download the paperwork from the AZ Corporate Commission, You will have to find out the entity in your state. You fill the form out, go to their office, pay your fee and voila - it is very simple. You do not need a lawyer to do this - just google LLC. You do need to keep all receipts, income, taxes you charge, etc, but that is being a business person. Get Quickbooks. - Congrats on your 7-year.
Thank you so much for giving us advice. I just started selling on Etsy and getting hired for commissions and this gave me a confidence boost. Not sure if I will ever do this as my full time job, but I would love to. For now it’s a passion I love to share with others.
This honest advice is really helpful as always. 7 years is something to be really proud of. Can't imagine it myself, even though it's something I do aspire to.
Just wanna say congratulations on your 7 year anniversary! I truly believe it's rough staying creative and dealing with the business side at the same time but from what I can see you're doing an awesome job at it!
Great idea :) I just got a mailer from a Community College with figure drawing - portrait drawing and oil painting classes in the Fall - I am registering for two classes to improve my artistic techniques :)
Great advice, Ellen. I just today said to myself, "am I good enough." This was so helpful for me. Thank you for the pep talk. I have to stop "watching" artists paint and just get out my stuff and do something. It's the old block of being afraid to begin. How silly is that? I know I can do it......Just Do It...LOL Happy 7th anniversary. By the way, I already know about LLC's. We did that with our art gallery. It's just a smart idea as a business.
I read what you're saying loud and clear, Judy. I think we've all been where you are at one point or another. And yes you absolutely CAN do it! Thanks for the encouragement on my LLC business decision. My accountant said that it really helped me in my taxes this past year. I still don't know much about it but I'm learning along the way!
I find even after almost 45 yrs of art, I am always trying to learn more how to do or do better my art. Weak on color and also spent time learning to draw better. I have sold art but not anything steady. But I am hooked on art and challenged to learn more.
Sound advice, from someone who has real world experience. This is why I like your channel, because you live this and know what you are talking about! 💗
I don't know how I found your channel Ellen.....I wish I could remember... because it might be helpful for you to know how people are finding you, I just want to say I'm glad I did. Love your honesty and the help you provide. Appreciate you
Thank you so much, so helpful and encouraging!! So real and authentic. Currenlty, have my work on social media but trying to figure out what platform I want to initiate for website. After, I set up website I will then consider facebook or Etsy. Again thank you!
Hi Ellen, you are very generous sharing so much and, I, we, hope you know how much you are appreciated. I listen to your posts and know exactly what you mean because your experience is exactly what the reality is. It is a big help hearing from others just what to expect. So, you’ve been a successful artist for 7 years? Does successful mean it has been worth the trouble or, it has only been paying the bills? I’ve listened to enough of your videos to wonder what the heck “successful” amounts to. If going into your studio to work is a drag, where is the success in that? If you are not excited to be in your studio then, isn’t the experience just about paying bills? I’m not asking to be argumentative. I’m asking because these are the questions I ask myself also. To be honest, I have not figured out the answers and, I see that these very issues are things that you struggle with too...even though you say you are succeeding now. I’ve been fascinated with painting my whole life. But, it has always been difficult for me to commit to it because it requires too much. At least, to accomplish the kind of painting that gets me emotionally fired up. I’ve heard you say that the business of being an artist prevents you from inventing...or, something to that affect. I lived in Taos, NM for 35 years and was involved for long periods in the art world. Inevitably, it would become a tiresome endeavor and, I would leave it to pursue something else in order to maintain my sense of integrity and rationale. I would always be drawn back into the art realm because the essence of painting is so emotionally satisfying to me. The business side of art...not so much. I keep realizing that the business of art is a total sacrifice of the spirit of art that is so attractive to so many art loving people. I wonder if it’s possible to be an artist without having to sacrifice your values as an artist or to sell your soul just to keep the business of art going for yourself? There is something I saw happening in Santa Fe and Taos that has always seemed amazing to me. Some people don’t seem to struggle at all. They start off and quickly seem to get picked up and carried along almost effortlessly. Others work and struggle seemingly, forever. I wonder if you have ever noticed this in your interactions with the art world and, if you could share your insight. Thanks so much. Glenn
Hi, Glenn. I really must answer 'Yes' to both of your questions. Yes, it has been worth all of the ups and downs that comes with this line of work. But when I also must pay my bills I have to think like a businesswoman, not an artist. I wear many hats and not all of them are fun and exciting. The word 'success' is such a personal thing and will mean something different for everyone. My definition of success as it pertains to me is being able to support myself and be my own boss, while creating work that pleases me (and hopefully, others). The unpleasant tasks that I have to do, although frustrating, would not cause me to walk away from my career. It can be difficult to maintain a balance but it's something I strive to do for myself every day. This is why I don't post videos on a timely basis here on RUclips but rather only when I feel I have something significant to share. I don't post on IG as much as I should, either. Am I sacrificing followers? Absolutely, but the moment I stop protecting my creative process (and sanity), that's when I've sold my soul for the sake of my business. So much more I could share but hopefully this answers your question :) Thank you for your thought-provoking comment!
Ive got my first solo exhibition next year in the spring. I wondered what advice you would give on this. Im wondering if i should keep surprise pieces back or just launch it all...xx
So excited for you, Sonia! 😃 I think you should do whatever makes you feel most comfortable. If you find it too stressful to release everything you have, there is nothing wrong with keeping pieces back. However, you will continue creating art and will always have more to offer!
I had my prints nice and neat in plastic sleeves, cards. It was a few months ago that a woman scoffed at me and just laughed at me when I asked if she sold my type of art in her friend's store. She said, "oh cards, ha." I said I have other prints if you want to see them. She went to talk to someone else. It made me sick to my stomach, after I poured myself into those pieces. I still have them in the same bin even though people say they love my work. She was just so rude. 🤷🏻♀️
Giselle, I am so sorry that happened to you. Some people can be so hurtful, especially when they are in a place of power. Please know it had more to do with HER and less to do with you. ❤️ At my first art fair I had someone come up to me and ask how much my 8x10 prints were. When I told him he just shook his head and said, 'No. No. No one will EVER pay that for THIS.' I was horrified and wanted to crawl into a corner! When I arrived home that night I told this story to an artist friend of mine who's work was phenomenal and she was already quite successful. She had an art show the previous weekend and her work was insulted. At that moment I thought, 'well, if someone finds something wrong with her work too, then I shouldn't feel bad.' As time passed I realized that there will always be 'that person' who will go out of their way to make someone else feel bad so they can feel better about themselves. You just keep on doing what you do and you'll succeed! ✨
Just as a word of encouragement; The amazing French impressionists like Monet we’re rejected from many popular art shows of the day, so they had to create their own shows. The rejection is not a reflection of the quality of your work!
Congratulations Ellen! That is awesome :) I know its been 2 years but that fact that you made this is still so encouraging to me now. I have a question (sorry if you've answered this before) I'm sure every week is different depending on the projects you need to work on, but I guess on average do you know how many hours per week you spend working? :) I also think its really good to take classes outside, I think I always want to have a class going on, or some meet up situation happening. I feel like if you don't fill yourself up with life, then you cant give very much. Making art in seclusion without any community had me very unmotivated for awhile until this year when I decided to take classes again. Im still an introvert, but I think I personally need that support and a little bit of healthy competition.
Thank you for your kind words, Stephanie - and for your question. If I had to break down my work schedule for this year I'd say that in all, I put in around 55 hours a week. 50% of that is painting, and the rest of the time is marketing, shipping and editing. I'm so glad you decided to take classes again, and am glad to learn that you're finding them helpful!
@@EllenBrennemanStudio that's good to know! Thank you for breaking it down! It's helpful to gauge how long other people take to work because I am slow as a turtle and I'm trying to manage my time better! That helps!
This is why I have an office at home - book keeping and listing, businessy stuff etc.. and I have a studio just for creating. Also why don't you increase your prices, and therefore block out time for creating for joy?
Hi Ellen I'm really enjoying your videos. I have a similar history, lots of health problems......for me it looks like I'm never really going to be really healthy. I have not started a business yet, at the moment I'm trying to create artworks to sell and also to improve. Have you any advice about how to manage a business whilst having to deal with frequent illness? I was thinking that restricting myself to one online store and maybe a local gallery. I have also thought that perhaps doing artworks that could be done in chunks or relatively quickly to compensate for the times life sends a curve ball. I'd really appreciate your opinion. Many thanks for your generosity, Jane
I think you have the right idea, Jane. Regardless of what anyone might say, you can only do what you can do. It's best to give 100% on one or two things than to struggle keeping up with four or five. Reaching out to local shops are a wonderful idea, especially. BEST of luck to you!
Hi Ellen, can you talk about selling directly to collectors. As one might have really awesome art, but cares not of all the elbow to elbow gallery entertainment.
I understand the best way to start a home business as an artist is to have my own website to have control but do I need to learn wordpress or can I hire a company to set up my own personal business webstie and have them manage it? Also, do I need a EIN number and is that what it means to have an LLC? or are they to separate things? I have a weebly site with nothing on it yet and they do use SquareSpace for sellinjg work on weebly but even there do I need an EIN and my own website, and LLC?
Glad to see you succeeding but agree with previous statement that nothing takes the joy out of a passtime faster than making it into a business. The best setting is if you have a partne spouse etc r who handles the business side. I don't see that LLC would be necessary for a fine artist. It's not like you're selling anything that is consumed, could be used in a potentially dangerous way etc, unless possibly you have customers in your home, and even then a business insurance policy might be enough.
Having a partner that can tackle the business side is a very good idea when it's possible, thank you for suggesting that! After having done my taxes this year I found that the biggest advantage to becoming an LLC was the tax breaks.
Mam please replay ,which is the great platform to sell artworks online anywhere in wrld .which is better,Amazon,esty,Fine ArtAmerica...?which is more trustable.
I have been a seller on Etsy for over 6 years and find them reliable. I no longer sell my work on Amazon due to my artwork being stolen and used by other vendors. I have never sold on FineArtAmerica so I cannot comment on that platform. I hope this helps! ☺️
There is more to it than that. I will link to the company I registered with so you can read about the requirements and benefits - and to see if it is for you: www.incfile.com
Right on --- Art is a Business,Believe and sell yourself and learn to be a business person and take your art business seriously. And Grow a little tougher skin - Not everyone will love your art - we are all looking for our audience, which is Not the world!
It's always best to consult with a lawyer since everyone's situation is different, but for me, after waiting about 6 years, my financial advisor instructed me to do so because my income was at a level to where I could take advantage of the tax breaks. Another perk - it protects my assets.
If it isn't something you want to do then pay someone else to do it. LLC doesn't really protect you that much, the only way to truly protect yourself you need to be a corporation.
Thanks for that information Ellen. Fear will always be part of our lives as humans but We've got to put our TRUST IN GOD IN WHATEVER WE DO AND NO MATTER WHAT COMES OUR WAY, WE'LL STILL MAKE IT. Thanks for sharing your experiences, it's an Inspiration to many.😀
Hello Ellen, i am an Tattooist, i draw every Motif , and I also paint . what you are saying in your video is exactly how it felt for me, I started out with a Dream, then the dream became work, People waiting, preasure, it took all the Fun out. Now, what I do is i take ONE whole day off ( I call it my Rebell day, I am sorry,not sorry-you have to wait one more day ) and do strictly everything for fun. it works for me , and some of the best drawings and paintings came from that . Congratulations on your 7th year!!!
Crow 333 That is excellent advice, thank you for sharing! 😀
This is so insightful! I actually hired an accountant to look after my bookkeeping because it was something that was stressing me out all the time lol! and I hired an employee to come print & pack my etsy orders once or twice a week and it's freed up sooo much of my time!
GOOD FOR YOU! I still struggle with setting boundaries sometimes...such an important lesson to learn!
One of the things I think is so valuable .. is the collaboration between artists .. by sharing information, ideas, etc. as it greatly increases all our potential. Artists are also teachers, magicians with a wand brush, leaders who speak through their work to the eye/mind of the public. It's about Art awareness. Great video!
Very well put! Thanks so much for your contribution to the discussion!
The main reason I hate commissions. Once you make your hobby work it's no longer as much fun.
You do good work though so stay strong and congrats on 7 years 👍
Thanks so much, Jason; and exactly right. It's so important to maintain the integrity of what we do.
I became a full time artist the beginning of Jan 2021 and I immediately got consumed in commissions. I HATE IT. They take me forever to complete. The canvas stares at me and I get resentful of the project. I crave working on my own pieces. They don't bring in as much money, but at that point with taking so long to finish large commissions I could've gone several smaller personal projects and made good/okay/living money to pay bills and enjoy myself.
Ellen, Thank you for your videos and your talent for sharing and, of course, for your artistic talents as well. I have recently quit my corporate job to devote 100% of me to my art. This is something that I have wanted to do since I was a little girl. I am now at the age where if I am going to try to create a business it must be now so that if I fail, or if I decide this isn't something I don't want to do I will have time to pivot and get another job. The years are going so fast! Your videos and advice mean the world to me as I begin this journey. The words 'Thank you" seem inadequate.
Kathryn Woods I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your kind words. It’s always nice to know that my videos are helpful! 😊
Wow Seven years you are a wealth of knowledge thank you dear. Yes I know why you had to become a full time Artist , and your story is so touchy , inspiring and motivating . I am so Happy for you , for how far and how much you are giving back to the art community. God bless you sweet sister ❤️👍
thank you!
Thank you for sharing your experience and for making it easier for us, who are not there yet. Thank you and congratulations for your hard earned wisdom and for sticking it out!
Thank you for your kind comment! ☺️
Congratulations and thank you so much for the reality check. So many artists showcase only their successes. There nothing wrong with that per se, but it's not an accurate portrayal of the day to day struggle that even crazy talented artists experience. Also, "Get over yourself and get on with it." is excellent advice.
Thank you for your lovely comment! ☺️
My goodness! Your the most gorgeous artist/person/youtuber ever! Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I should be in bed more than two hours ago but your videos are so packed with goodies that I kept watching "just one more". I love your sweet and honest way of communicating. You've been very helpful, please know that. Wishing you all the best!
Carla, what a lovely comment - thank you! I'm so glad you're finding my content useful!
Thank you so much for this video...it really let me exhale and decide to create for the sake of creating. If I sell my work every now and then, that will just be icing on the cake.
I'm very glad to hear that your mind has been put to ease a bit. Best of luck to you!
I always enjoy your videos and the wisdom you share with other artists. Ellen you and my fellow artist should never question your ability because there is room for all forms of art. Just visit any modern art museum, gallery or just search artwork on the world wide web :)
Kathy, thank you for your kind comment here ☺️
...just watched this again because I remembered how encouraging it was.
I'm forming an LLC which only costs $10 a month and $135 filing fee :) - It's been too hard to form a Board of Directors - This is a great structure. I can change my theatre company (I've owned my company for 30 years) and can make it a Non-Profit LLC in a year. My art work business is appropriate as an indie LLC :) Very helpful video and ideas :)
I feel like this is perfect video for me since I am starting out in my art career! Your advice has been very helpful thank you!
Thank you - I'm so glad you're finding them helpful!
Thank you for sharing! Congrats on your 7 year anniversary! I've been following you for over a year on RUclips and I always look forward to watching your videos. Really enjoy your take on making it as an artist. Take care and always wishing you the best 🥰
Stephanie, thank you - that means so much to me! ☺️❤️
I hav e found from knowing you threw your art that it’s more than work for you. The way you share and how very caring you are to others including me you are going to have to admit it’s not just for work or business. Your skill is without question. Your. Compassion reaches us all. I think you need to do exactly what you said in this video and talk to yourself that it’s all art. Not everyone can accomplish all the facets you have. So my friend it’s not work it’s a blessing
Belinda, you are so dear. I am very blessed and thankful every single day just for being connected to people like you! This shift I sometimes feel in myself always comes during financial hardship when money is tight and essential. I put a lot of burden on myself during these times; I haven't quite learned how to find that balance yet, but I continue to try. Thank you for your lovely comment; it means a great deal to me ☺️
Dear Ellen, congrats on the anniversary! I too believe in the law of attraction and the reason why from all the videos here on youtube I totally accidentally came across yours. Thank you for your honesty and all the good advice, it IS very helpful and motivating.
Congrats on a huge accomplishment and being so successful. Administrative-business work hasn't been a problem for me. It really is sharing a part of myself with the world. That us being vulnerable and being "accepted". Something that has been very difficult all my life. The thought that came to me when you were talking about showing your work and getting your first no, if we taught each other how to open door to adjacent possibilites, just because your work wasn't accepted at so and so place, is that you actually opened another door or window for something that you didnt imagine before. Then led to etsy. Remember when trying new things of creativity is that you "knock" for other avenues to be opened. I wish I would have known that sooner, it was when I became an out of closet Oracle that these ideas and concepts became my understanding. Everything is with time and lessons learned so that others dont have to go through and much of pain and suffering or give them an alternative to their closet or attic that they will feel liberated to keep creating. Ty for your vid. I look forward to working with your Oracle cards. ⭐⭐⭐excited ⭐⭐⭐
Hi Ellen, I am just staring out on my serious art journey although I've been drawing and painting all my life. I feel right now just like you described in your beginning. I thoroughly enjoy your videos!
Mary, thank you for your kind words and best of luck to you!!
I am so ready to do this and I am soooo happy I ran across you...hopefully when u go to bed tonight u would think on how you are helping people reach their dreams 🥰🥰
Thank you, and BEST of luck to you!!
Thanks for sharing your own experience. Its very important for me listening someone so talented like you,talking about negative aspects of the process of being. artist. Many people thinks that working as a painter is fun or easy but it is not, actually is a hard and painfull way. I have been painting for many years , ocasionally selling my work and teaching art ,but its hard to me believe in myself. Thats the real problem, as you coment in the video. Sorry about my english. I m from Argentina. Thanks to read my commentary
I think intuitive or spontaneous painting really relaxes...professional artists I suppose
I could listen to you forever. Thanks for your honesty.
Thank you for your kind words!
Hi Ellen... very encouraging! I know a lot of us have been down your road as well. I wish I had done things differently too. But it's water under the bridge and full steam ahead! It's tough freelancing, there are so many ups and downs in this business... but you hit it right on the nose and that's not to be discouraged. With this video alone you may have helped just one artist take the next step. Congratulations on your seven year anniversary. Hope the next seven are even better.
Dunno if anyone gives a damn but if you guys are bored like me atm then you can watch pretty much all of the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Been watching with my brother for the last few days =)
@Briggs Major yup, I've been using InstaFlixxer for since november myself =)
Same with full time any vocation that was your hobby. In 1988 I started out as the wide eyed dreamy Apprentice, and was was a hobbyist blacksmith for ten years. Yet when I had enough folks saying “can you make me a...” I went into full time Smithing in 1998. From ‘98 - ‘18 I was overwhelmed by deadlines, and so far have taken a full year off.
Congratulations on the success and for the victory over self-doubt 🎉🎊 and thank you for sharing!
thank you for your kind comment! ☺️
I found you like 2 days ago and I'm so glad I did! #3 really got to me, thank you. Congrats on 7 years!
Nina Medellin thank you so much!
Thank you so much for this and for all of your videos beautiful lady!! I am just starting out and I really needed to hear all of this but especially #3, to get over myself and get on with it!!!
For an LLC - simple paperwork, in AZ you can go and download the paperwork from the AZ Corporate Commission, You will have to find out the entity in your state. You fill the form out, go to their office, pay your fee and voila - it is very simple. You do not need a lawyer to do this - just google LLC. You do need to keep all receipts, income, taxes you charge, etc, but that is being a business person. Get Quickbooks. - Congrats on your 7-year.
Awesome..., thanks for the candor... 🙏
Thank you so much for giving us advice. I just started selling on Etsy and getting hired for commissions and this gave me a confidence boost. Not sure if I will ever do this as my full time job, but I would love to. For now it’s a passion I love to share with others.
This honest advice is really helpful as always. 7 years is something to be really proud of. Can't imagine it myself, even though it's something I do aspire to.
Kay, thank you for your kind words; I greatly appreciate you taking the time to watch and leave a comment here ✨
Just wanna say congratulations on your 7 year anniversary! I truly believe it's rough staying creative and dealing with the business side at the same time but from what I can see you're doing an awesome job at it!
Thank you for your kind words, Shana - and for watching! ☺️
Hi, Ellen, I just found you and I think YOU are my new spirit companion! :D Thank you for your wisdom and thoughtful advice.
Lorrie, that is so nice, thank you for your kind words! :)
Great idea :) I just got a mailer from a Community College with figure drawing - portrait drawing and oil painting classes in the Fall - I am registering for two classes to improve my artistic techniques :)
So candid, so helpful, so honest, so beautiful,
Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Great advice, Ellen. I just today said to myself, "am I good enough." This was so helpful for me. Thank you for the pep talk. I have to stop "watching" artists paint and just get out my stuff and do something. It's the old block of being afraid to begin. How silly is that? I know I can do it......Just Do It...LOL Happy 7th anniversary. By the way, I already know about LLC's. We did that with our art gallery. It's just a smart idea as a business.
I read what you're saying loud and clear, Judy. I think we've all been where you are at one point or another. And yes you absolutely CAN do it! Thanks for the encouragement on my LLC business decision. My accountant said that it really helped me in my taxes this past year. I still don't know much about it but I'm learning along the way!
love your videos, i appreciate your realness ..thank you so much
I find even after almost 45 yrs of art, I am always trying to learn more how to do or do better my art. Weak on color and also spent time learning to draw better. I have sold art but not anything steady. But I am hooked on art and challenged to learn more.
Great input on all your art business related videos. Way to go making it a life! Enjoy every moment.
Thanks so much!
Sound advice, from someone who has real world experience. This is why I like your channel, because you live this and know what you are talking about! 💗
Becky, thank you so much for your kind words; means a lot! 💕
thank you...your videos are helpful beyond words
I'm so glad, Maria! ☺️
Hi Ellen
Susan, thank you so much for your kind comment - that is so lovely of you! ☺️
Gotten over it, you are correct. Thank you for the advice
Good for you on 7 years as professional artist!
Thank you so much, Mary Lou! ☺️❤️
Congrats Ellen!! Tks for your Help
Thank you!
I don't know how I found your channel Ellen.....I wish I could remember... because it might be helpful for you to know how people are finding you, I just want to say I'm glad I did. Love your honesty and the help you provide. Appreciate you
Thank you for your kind comment here; so greatly appreciated 😊
Thank you Ellen- always appreciate what you have to say.
Paulette, thank you for your kind words; so greatly appreciated. ✨
Thanks for this. I am one of those who feels her art is not good enough.
Thanks a lot for sharing such wonderful thoughts
You are quite welcome! ☺️
Thank you for your insight and encouragement! Congratulations on 7 years! :)
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much, so helpful and encouraging!! So real and authentic. Currenlty, have my work on social media but trying to figure out what platform I want to initiate for website. After, I set up website I will then consider facebook or Etsy. Again thank you!
You are most welcome - thank you for watching!
So very relatable story!! Thanks for making this, at least helps me to feel I’m not alone in this full time artist journey.
You're definitely not alone!
Thanks for such a helpful video. You have a wonderful aura and I can tell that you have a good heart :)
Thank you for your kind comment! 😊
Business...zaps....drains....all the energy from artist....but it's a big must! Yes...ART business course is mandatory
Dear Ellen, Thank you for your honesty. I feel so well understood through your video. Happy 7th anniversary!!! Stay as you are! Love and hugs Maike
Sending much love to you as always, Maike - thank you for your kind comment! ☺️❤️
I do business stuff too :) I spend entire afternoons asking art gallery owners to exhibit my work :)
Hi Ellen, you are very generous sharing so much and, I, we, hope you know how much you are appreciated.
I listen to your posts and know exactly what you mean because your experience is exactly what the reality is. It is a big help hearing from others just what to expect.
So, you’ve been a successful artist for 7 years? Does successful mean it has been worth the trouble or, it has only been paying the bills?
I’ve listened to enough of your videos to wonder what the heck “successful” amounts to. If going into your studio to work is a drag, where is the success in that? If you are not excited to be in your studio then, isn’t the experience just about paying bills?
I’m not asking to be argumentative. I’m asking because these are the questions I ask myself also. To be honest, I have not figured out the answers and, I see that these very issues are things that you struggle with too...even though you say you are succeeding now.
I’ve been fascinated with painting my whole life. But, it has always been difficult for me to commit to it because it requires too much. At least, to accomplish the kind of painting that gets me emotionally fired up. I’ve heard you say that the business of being an artist prevents you from inventing...or, something to that affect.
I lived in Taos, NM for 35 years and was involved for long periods in the art world. Inevitably, it would become a tiresome endeavor and, I would leave it to pursue something else in order to maintain my sense of integrity and rationale. I would always be drawn back into the art realm because the essence of painting is so emotionally satisfying to me. The business side of art...not so much.
I keep realizing that the business of art is a total sacrifice of the spirit of art that is so attractive to so many art loving people.
I wonder if it’s possible to be an artist without having to sacrifice your values as an artist or to sell your soul just to keep the business of art going for yourself?
There is something I saw happening in Santa Fe and Taos that has always seemed amazing to me. Some people don’t seem to struggle at all. They start off and quickly seem to get picked up and carried along almost effortlessly. Others work and struggle seemingly, forever.
I wonder if you have ever noticed this in your interactions with the art world and, if you could share your insight. Thanks so much. Glenn
Hi, Glenn. I really must answer 'Yes' to both of your questions. Yes, it has been worth all of the ups and downs that comes with this line of work. But when I also must pay my bills I have to think like a businesswoman, not an artist. I wear many hats and not all of them are fun and exciting. The word 'success' is such a personal thing and will mean something different for everyone. My definition of success as it pertains to me is being able to support myself and be my own boss, while creating work that pleases me (and hopefully, others). The unpleasant tasks that I have to do, although frustrating, would not cause me to walk away from my career. It can be difficult to maintain a balance but it's something I strive to do for myself every day. This is why I don't post videos on a timely basis here on RUclips but rather only when I feel I have something significant to share. I don't post on IG as much as I should, either. Am I sacrificing followers? Absolutely, but the moment I stop protecting my creative process (and sanity), that's when I've sold my soul for the sake of my business. So much more I could share but hopefully this answers your question :) Thank you for your thought-provoking comment!
You are a good person.
toto now thank you!
Thank you for your insight! I always love your videos and will research LLC!
Hi Ellen! Thanks for this and congratulations on your anmiversary. Xx
Ive got my first solo exhibition next year in the spring. I wondered what advice you would give on this. Im wondering if i should keep surprise pieces back or just launch it all...xx
So excited for you, Sonia! 😃 I think you should do whatever makes you feel most comfortable. If you find it too stressful to release everything you have, there is nothing wrong with keeping pieces back. However, you will continue creating art and will always have more to offer!
Wow....you are just reading, speaking , every artist mind on the planet
I had my prints nice and neat in plastic sleeves, cards. It was a few months ago that a woman scoffed at me and just laughed at me when I asked if she sold my type of art in her friend's store. She said, "oh cards, ha." I said I have other prints if you want to see them. She went to talk to someone else. It made me sick to my stomach, after I poured myself into those pieces. I still have them in the same bin even though people say they love my work. She was just so rude. 🤷🏻♀️
Giselle, I am so sorry that happened to you. Some people can be so hurtful, especially when they are in a place of power. Please know it had more to do with HER and less to do with you. ❤️ At my first art fair I had someone come up to me and ask how much my 8x10 prints were. When I told him he just shook his head and said, 'No. No. No one will EVER pay that for THIS.' I was horrified and wanted to crawl into a corner! When I arrived home that night I told this story to an artist friend of mine who's work was phenomenal and she was already quite successful. She had an art show the previous weekend and her work was insulted. At that moment I thought, 'well, if someone finds something wrong with her work too, then I shouldn't feel bad.' As time passed I realized that there will always be 'that person' who will go out of their way to make someone else feel bad so they can feel better about themselves. You just keep on doing what you do and you'll succeed! ✨
Ellen Brenneman Studio Thank you for your kind words. 🌸
Just as a word of encouragement; The amazing French impressionists like Monet we’re rejected from many popular art shows of the day, so they had to create their own shows. The rejection is not a reflection of the quality of your work!
Congratulations Ellen! That is awesome :) I know its been 2 years but that fact that you made this is still so encouraging to me now.
I have a question (sorry if you've answered this before) I'm sure every week is different depending on the projects you need to work on, but I guess on average do you know how many hours per week you spend working? :) I also think its really good to take classes outside, I think I always want to have a class going on, or some meet up situation happening. I feel like if you don't fill yourself up with life, then you cant give very much. Making art in seclusion without any community had me very unmotivated for awhile until this year when I decided to take classes again. Im still an introvert, but I think I personally need that support and a little bit of healthy competition.
Thank you for your kind words, Stephanie - and for your question. If I had to break down my work schedule for this year I'd say that in all, I put in around 55 hours a week. 50% of that is painting, and the rest of the time is marketing, shipping and editing.
I'm so glad you decided to take classes again, and am glad to learn that you're finding them helpful!
@@EllenBrennemanStudio that's good to know! Thank you for breaking it down! It's helpful to gauge how long other people take to work because I am slow as a turtle and I'm trying to manage my time better! That helps!
@@stephaniepaints you are most welcome!
happy 7th
Thank you very much!
You have helped me so much. Thank you
I'm glad, Jo - thank you!
thanks for the inspiration
Thank you
cheers for the good advice!
Thanks so much for sharing this ❤️❤️
Thank you for your kind comment!
This is why I have an office at home - book keeping and listing, businessy stuff etc.. and I have a studio just for creating.
Also why don't you increase your prices, and therefore block out time for creating for joy?
I'm glad you've found a way to separate the business side from your creative side; that's terrific!
Hi Ellen
I'm really enjoying your videos. I have a similar history, lots of health problems......for me it looks like I'm never really going to be really healthy. I have not started a business yet, at the moment I'm trying to create artworks to sell and also to improve. Have you any advice about how to manage a business whilst having to deal with frequent illness? I was thinking that restricting myself to one online store and maybe a local gallery. I have also thought that perhaps doing artworks that could be done in chunks or relatively quickly to compensate for the times life sends a curve ball. I'd really appreciate your opinion. Many thanks for your generosity, Jane
I think you have the right idea, Jane. Regardless of what anyone might say, you can only do what you can do. It's best to give 100% on one or two things than to struggle keeping up with four or five. Reaching out to local shops are a wonderful idea, especially. BEST of luck to you!
A very inspiring video. Thank you Ellen
Thank you so much for this vid! You rule!
Thanks for the words of wisdom! Tangential question: who does your hair? It always looks fabulous. (I’m also in South Bend.)
Hello!! How nice to see someone local! I go to Eclips Hair Salon ☺️
Hi Ellen, can you talk about selling directly to collectors. As one might have really awesome art, but cares not of all the elbow to elbow gallery entertainment.
Really enjoying these videos and so helpful too✨
So glad to know this, Suzi - thank you!
I understand the best way to start a home business as an artist is to have my own website to have control but do I need to learn wordpress or can I hire a company to set up my own personal business webstie and have them manage it?
Also, do I need a EIN number and is that what it means to have an LLC? or are they to separate things?
I have a weebly site with nothing on it yet and they do use SquareSpace for sellinjg work on weebly but even there do I need an EIN and my own website, and LLC?
The link for your etsy page doesn't work for me! Anyways great video :)
Stephanie, thank you for letting me know about the link - very kind of you!
Glad to see you succeeding but agree with previous statement that nothing takes the joy out of a passtime faster than making it into a business. The best setting is if you have a partne spouse etc r who handles the business side. I don't see that LLC would be necessary for a fine artist. It's not like you're selling anything that is consumed, could be used in a potentially dangerous way etc, unless possibly you have customers in your home, and even then a business insurance policy might be enough.
Having a partner that can tackle the business side is a very good idea when it's possible, thank you for suggesting that! After having done my taxes this year I found that the biggest advantage to becoming an LLC was the tax breaks.
How much on average can one make as a full time artist?
Your Etsy link does not work.
Mam please replay ,which is the great platform to sell artworks online anywhere in wrld .which is better,Amazon,esty,Fine ArtAmerica...?which is more trustable.
I have been a seller on Etsy for over 6 years and find them reliable. I no longer sell my work on Amazon due to my artwork being stolen and used by other vendors. I have never sold on FineArtAmerica so I cannot comment on that platform. I hope this helps! ☺️
Thanku Mam👍💗
Is LLC just registering your name business name for a small business or is an LLC that gives you a EIN Tax ID number?
There is more to it than that. I will link to the company I registered with so you can read about the requirements and benefits - and to see if it is for you: www.incfile.com
@@EllenBrennemanStudio Thank you.
Right on --- Art is a Business,Believe and sell yourself and learn to be a business person and take your art business seriously. And Grow a little tougher skin - Not everyone will love your art - we are all looking for our audience, which is Not the world!
Should one be an LLC when starting out or wait until they are making a real living as an artist?
It's always best to consult with a lawyer since everyone's situation is different, but for me, after waiting about 6 years, my financial advisor instructed me to do so because my income was at a level to where I could take advantage of the tax breaks. Another perk - it protects my assets.
Can youupdate if you had to start over today
If it isn't something you want to do then pay someone else to do it. LLC doesn't really protect you that much, the only way to truly protect yourself you need to be a corporation.