Belgium (BEL) - 2022 Acrobatic Worlds, Baku (AZE) - Dynamic Qualification Mixed Pair

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @tilmanrotationalinvariant2257
    @tilmanrotationalinvariant2257 Год назад

    I am sorry, but 17.9 as execution??? I could atleast deduct 2.0(so 16.0) from this routine, what is this bias.

    • @mojovr5003
      @mojovr5003 Год назад

      Could you explain a little? I've always wanted to understand Acrobatic gymnastics scoring but there are so little resources out there to learn.This looked pretty solid to me.

    • @tilmanrotationalinvariant2257
      @tilmanrotationalinvariant2257 Год назад

      @@mojovr5003 Pitch to hands: 1/10 for jump, 1/10 for step
      Full in: 1-2/10 for jump, 3/10 underrotation
      salto combo: 2/10 step, 2/10 +1/10+2/10 knees too far apart
      front layout onto hands: 1/10 step, 2/10 arch
      full onto hands: 1/10 pike
      full in pike: 1/10 legs seperated, 1/10 under rotated
      = 2.0, funnily enough the same score I gave 7 month ago:)
      => 8.0 x 2 = 16.0 Execution score

    • @mojovr5003
      @mojovr5003 Год назад

      @@tilmanrotationalinvariant2257 Thank you! Wow, did not expect you to reply so soon (if at all) :)) Few more questions though, if you don't mind.
      Is every adjustment step by the base deducted? Where do you draw the line between mistakes, and correct pitching and catching techniques, which seem to require different stances (legs aside for throwing, one leg slightly back for catching)? Additionally, how do judges judge the amount of steps taken when the base has to turn around (for example in the salto combo)?
      What are the guidelines for underrotation?
      Would the steps after the full to hands be deducted? And the jump after 2 1/2 pike?
      I'd love to learn more about the judging, as I love watching the sport, especially the most recent teams from Belgium (I might be biased), as they all look really tidy to me, on top of being pretty difficult and very original. Also, I feel like acrobatic gymnasts usually have the cleanest form out of all the gymnastics disciplines, so very pleasing to look at.

    • @tilmanrotationalinvariant2257
      @tilmanrotationalinvariant2257 Год назад +2

      ​@@mojovr5003 Then you're more in line with the judges than me, but I guess it could also be the angle, where they might have overlooked something.
      There are planned steps and correction steps. You are allowed to walk from one position to another( catch with legs split and walk in parallel to throw again). Same with turning around, but in the clip you see how he has to hop back on the 2,5 tucked to compensate the "bad" throw. I deducted that. I deducted one step more, which is propably too strict.
      Yes the full to catch had one step to catch which i deducted and he stepped in to throw again, which is allowed. If would do more steps than one, it would be deducted again. If He'd purposfully stepped into split position to catch, i wouldn't have deducted that, but here you can see, that he throws too short and has do the step.
      Usually most corrections are not necessary though, so they are deducted. Shuffle with your hands? Per hand and times 1/10. I actually oversaw his shuffle with one hand, because it was so small.
      Furthermore the judge doesnt only judge elements. If you do choreo and you stumble and do more steps than clearly planned, those are deducted too.
      Underrotating is visble if the top lands with the feet behind her and/or you could clearly see that she wouldn't have stood alone and maybe even would fall. There are some drawings on page 46. On top! of that you can get deductions if the element was too low(subjective). You can get easily get 1.0 deduction if you do a crooked element.

    • @tilmanrotationalinvariant2257
      @tilmanrotationalinvariant2257 Год назад +2

      @@mojovr5003 "Also, I feel like acrobatic gymnasts usually have the cleanest form out of all the gymnastics disciplines, so very pleasing to look at". This wasn't always the case, but in the latest Cop deductions are doubled and difficulty decreased. You cannot win with only difficult elements.