Hey thanks for sharing the little tricks to fire starting. I have used a piece of 3/16" break line for years starting my BBQ fires because I only use wood in my BBQ pit and start the fire using a friction bow/drill set every time I BBQ, so starting fires with my bow/drill becomes second nature to me. My dad always told me "practice makes perfect". God Bless you, may peace be with you a,d your family brother.
Thank you Lonnie. David West's drying cycle is one of the best tips for friction fire I have heard in a long time. All the best tips I learn are from you. Lonnie, thank you for the shout out as well.
The logic in this technique makes perfect sense. Probably good for a jungle environment as well. Also a fan of fire blowers as well. Awesome video Professor! TFS and be well!
I too found David West a few months ago....never seen anyone as good at friction fire, as him....it just seems to be so natural for him.....he will never be cold......i have learned so much from you and him... I am forever indebted-thanks...Jeff
Lonnie, just discovered your channel. As someone who does "gardening how to" videos on YT, I like your clear, concise voice & direction in the helpful videos. Also, it's fun to look at the videos from a couple years back, to see the growth of the beard. Keep the great videos coming!
The hearth board style I am using is called the two hole or keyhole method. The ember collects in the previous hole through a channel cut between the two holes. Understanding Friction Fire Hearth board Styles ruclips.net/video/VViLkXRjKtg/видео.html
I recommend that you see the video at the link below. It will answer your questions advantages and disadvantages of quite a few different designs. Understanding Friction Fire Hearth board Styles ruclips.net/video/VViLkXRjKtg/видео.html
Thanks Lonnie for passing along the knowledge, always impressed with your fire making skills....Hope you and Connie are doing great, all the best to you both.....
Another excellent video Lonnie. The drying cycle seems to make sense slowly dry the wood and then gives you more dry wood on the end of that thing there. Take care.
Awesome, I had no idea. Lonnie, Connie, thank you for uploading this and all your videos. I've learnt a lot from you. One of the premier channels on RUclips.
Hi Lonnie! Your methods absolutely makes sense - thanks for sharing it with us. One alternative source for a collapsible fire blower pipe is the telescoping antenna from an older shortwave radio, also with both ends removed. Another fire blower would be short piece of thin aquarium PVC or silicone tubing, which can also be used to suck water out of small crevices or to improvise a tourniqet. ATB, Gereon
I saw this done with a set that was placed in a tube of water for a few hours. The guy actually got the set to dry out and got the coal. My arms would have fallen off before I got the coal but he got it. I was very impressed with the tip. I can not remember the channel name. Great tip and shout out!!!
High humidity is not something we have to battle here in NW Wyoming... but falling in a creek is. Good idea for drying that one may not think of in the spur of the moment.
Hi Lonnie. Mark Young came up with that trick from a video review I posted of the Pocket Bellows V.3, and I saw that gadget on The Outdoor Gear Review channel. (And I paid $30 for the darn thing...) Just goes to show how fun and close-knit the RUclips community actually is.
Ironically enough, I ran into the same problem about a week and a half ago. It was the first time trying a bow drill and I made a set out of a piece of cedar siding. (Bushcraft On Fire suggested this for first timers to help avoid frustration when you're a friction fire beginner.) I was successful the first time and repeated it three more times without any problems. That evening I tried to show some friends of mine and of course, I was unsuccessful. The temperature had dropped about 15 degrees and the humidity had increased significantly. So I tried again from scratch and was again unsuccessful. The third time however, I managed to produce an ember by re-using the partial hole from the second attempt and by also keeping the dust from my second attempt packed up against the notch in my hearth. I thought the extra dust would help trap more dust and force it to pack into a tighter ember as well as trap more heat and protect it from the humidity. At any rate, great video. I really enjoy and appreciate all the fantastic advice I've gleaned from your channel.
I wish I knew this back in Nova Scotia. So damp and humid. Bet it would have made things more successful for me. I think I'll practice friction fires more again now. Give me some ideas, too. Thanks for sharing!
That was amazing. I tried for hours with my little cousin just messing around but was so amazed at the heat and smoke I seriously tried three more times by myself. never got an ember just smoke. this makes me want to try again. You make it look too easy!
WOW, totally superb & insightful video, you have made my day, I've gone over this with a number of woodsmen having now and again had the same issues, off outside to have a go now! - you're a star for sharing this info - as always your videos are a pleasure to watch - thanks again :)
after watching so many videos on survival and bushcrafters i was afraid that most American didn't know how to survive since most channels are buy this buy that but your channel really shows bushcrafters how it should be
Great tip Lonnie. I had a problem in starting a friction fire several weeks ago .... very humid /damp conditions in Texas that morning. I will try some of the tips you've shared. Thanks, Ken
Good job on the video! I have only tried a friction fire once and gave up out of frustration. Now that I have this vid, I'll have another go at it and try your tips. It would be nice to have another fire starting method in my skill set. All due respect to you sir for the insight and motivation to try this again. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed the video. You may benefit from watching my video playlist at the link below. There are some tips given in those videos that you normally do not see in other channel videos. You Can Learn Friction Fire Bowdrill ruclips.net/video/_ayBxraYXik/видео.html Also of interest may be the following playlist Learn Primtive Fire Lighting Methods ruclips.net/video/TF10v5uTAHc/видео.html
I enjoyed the video. I have tried (and failed, so far) to get an ember with a bow drill set. I like the hearth board you are using in this one. All the other people I have seen doing friction fire on RUclips and elsewhere talk about cutting a notch in the side of the board in order to be able to harvest the ember, undercutting the notch so more air can get in to help form the ember and allow it to grow, cutting the notch just far enough into the spot where you are trying to make an ember but not too far, etc. It appears that you, on the other hand, just pick a spot on the more or less flat hearth board and go for it - and you get fire just as quickly.
I forgot to mention that one thing that sets the two hole method apart from the side notch method is the advantage of creating and harboring the ember off the ground on top of the board where the ember is safe from damp ground or snow.
The hearth board style I'm using here is known as the two hole, or key hole method. One hole is made in the board and then the next hole needs to be close by and a channel cut between the two holes so that the hot wood dust can collect in the channel similar to the way the hot wood dust collects in the notch of the hearth board styles you are referring to. You can see how the two hole method is made and used by watching my videos and video playlists linked to below. Understanding Friction Fire Hearth board Styles ruclips.net/video/VViLkXRjKtg/видео.html Learn Primtive Fire Lighting Methods ruclips.net/video/TF10v5uTAHc/видео.html
Thank you, sir. I took a look at your video about different hearth board styles. Very informative. I want to try the two hole method, now - maybe I will have more success with it than with the standard style.
Well, this winter I had no success with the bow drill, boy that was quite the time I tell you:) Then, it was like a miracle, after this video I made a new poplar set and tried it today, voila! It was like an instant ember after all the other tries, lol. I now look forward to trying other woods to increase my new found skill. Thank you Lonnie & hello to Connie and Buck from one happy viewer,:)
Awsome tip, Lonnie!!!...just by blowing direct with a straw or something else. Cuts the working time by 1/3 !....the drying cycle is also very good. Thank you very much for your insights. Homero A.
Great tip Lonnie you give me the boost to go back to bow and hand drill that I haven't practice for years. Regarding the Bellew I use it since Long Time ago when my granpa teach IT to me. In France from where I come we call IT a boufadou and They are usually made with bamboo or twigs from wich you can pull out the marrow to hollow them. Old radio and car antenna are also a very good option😉 Ciao from Québec ⚜
Thanks for the shout out Lonnie. God Bless yall.
Hey thanks for sharing the little tricks to fire starting.
I have used a piece of 3/16" break line for years starting my BBQ fires because I only use wood in my BBQ pit and start the fire using a friction bow/drill set every time I BBQ, so starting fires with my bow/drill becomes second nature to me. My dad always told me "practice makes perfect".
God Bless you, may peace be with you a,d your family brother.
my god, not even using a board, just straight. Loni is a Legend.
Great tip! It is so good to finally see somebody find a way to get the fire started without having to get smoke all over your face doing it.
Thank you Lonnie. David West's drying cycle is one of the best tips for friction fire I have heard in a long time. All the best tips I learn are from you. Lonnie, thank you for the shout out as well.
The logic in this technique makes perfect sense. Probably good for a jungle environment as well.
Also a fan of fire blowers as well. Awesome video Professor! TFS and be well!
Triumph Screen Printing Bellows!
Thanks for the explanation of "drying cycles ". It makes complete sense now.
I too found David West a few months ago....never seen anyone as good at friction fire, as him....it just seems to be so natural for him.....he will never be cold......i have learned so much from you and him... I am forever indebted-thanks...Jeff
Lonnie, just discovered your channel. As someone who does "gardening how to" videos on YT, I like your clear, concise voice & direction in the helpful videos. Also, it's fun to look at the videos from a couple years back, to see the growth of the beard. Keep the great videos coming!
Glad you found my channel and are enjoying the videos Welcome.
I'm 32y.o. I've been watching ur vids for quite a while. I appreciate how you get rite to the point and speak after trial and error. Take care..
Thanks for the tip Lonnie. I find it interesting you did not have to notch out your hearth board like everyone does. That is a nice thing to know...
The hearth board style I am using is called the two hole or keyhole method. The ember collects in the previous hole through a channel cut between the two holes.
Understanding Friction Fire Hearth board Styles
ruclips.net/video/VViLkXRjKtg/видео.html
+Far North Bushcraft And Survival ahhhh, thanks Lonnie. I missed the fire board video. Appreciate the lead...
is there an advantage to this method ? please elaborate !
I recommend that you see the video at the link below. It will answer your questions advantages and disadvantages of quite a few different designs.
Understanding Friction Fire Hearth board Styles
ruclips.net/video/VViLkXRjKtg/видео.html
Thanks Lonnie for passing along the knowledge, always impressed with your fire making skills....Hope you and Connie are doing great, all the best to you both.....
Another excellent video Lonnie. The drying cycle seems to make sense slowly dry the wood and then gives you more dry wood on the end of that thing there. Take care.
I love this hobby. And your and David West's channels.
I really enjoy David West's channel. He helped me get the Rudiger Roll to work when I was failing.
Love the spread of content you cover. Really sets you apart from the other channels. Thanks for the hours of entertainment and learning!
Awesome, I had no idea. Lonnie, Connie, thank you for uploading this and all your videos. I've learnt a lot from you. One of the premier channels on RUclips.
Thanks for that little trick Lonnie
Hi Lonnie! Your methods absolutely makes sense - thanks for sharing it with us. One alternative source for a collapsible fire blower pipe is the telescoping antenna from an older shortwave radio, also with both ends removed. Another fire blower would be short piece of thin aquarium PVC or silicone tubing, which can also be used to suck water out of small crevices or to improvise a tourniqet. ATB, Gereon
drying cycles works wonders,if it wasn't for u and David west I don't think I would have ever figured out the bow drill,thanks and great video
I saw this done with a set that was placed in a tube of water for a few hours. The guy actually got the set to dry out and got the coal. My arms would have fallen off before I got the coal but he got it. I was very impressed with the tip. I can not remember the channel name. Great tip and shout out!!!
Works great. I've used this in the past to create embers from green wood cut the same day. David's videos are great.
great tip Lonnie, I always learn something from your videos
High humidity is not something we have to battle here in NW Wyoming... but falling in a creek is. Good idea for drying that one may not think of in the spur of the moment.
Hi Lonnie. Mark Young came up with that trick from a video review I posted of the Pocket Bellows V.3, and I saw that gadget on The Outdoor Gear Review channel. (And I paid $30 for the darn thing...) Just goes to show how fun and close-knit the RUclips community actually is.
Ironically enough, I ran into the same problem about a week and a half ago. It was the first time trying a bow drill and I made a set out of a piece of cedar siding. (Bushcraft On Fire suggested this for first timers to help avoid frustration when you're a friction fire beginner.) I was successful the first time and repeated it three more times without any problems. That evening I tried to show some friends of mine and of course, I was unsuccessful. The temperature had dropped about 15 degrees and the humidity had increased significantly. So I tried again from scratch and was again unsuccessful. The third time however, I managed to produce an ember by re-using the partial hole from the second attempt and by also keeping the dust from my second attempt packed up against the notch in my hearth. I thought the extra dust would help trap more dust and force it to pack into a tighter ember as well as trap more heat and protect it from the humidity. At any rate, great video. I really enjoy and appreciate all the fantastic advice I've gleaned from your channel.
Wonderful video my friend! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
I wish I knew this back in Nova Scotia. So damp and humid. Bet it would have made things more successful for me. I think I'll practice friction fires more again now. Give me some ideas, too. Thanks for sharing!
haven't seen anyone use a board like that before, it makes sense.
thank you for doing what you do..
Wow, what wonderful knowledge! Thanks again Lonnie and Connie, best regards.
I think I always learn something valuable every time you upload a video. THANK YOU.
Drying cycles. Quite logical, when you think about it. Thanks for sharing.
Always something to learn. (Keep it simple). Basics will most "always" work.
That was amazing. I tried for hours with my little cousin just messing around but was so amazed at the heat and smoke I seriously tried three more times by myself. never got an ember just smoke. this makes me want to try again. You make it look too easy!
Never seen the straw blower, just fold it together and wave....works every time.
nice trick!
Nice trick Lonnie! For years I carried a 24" length of 1/4" rubber hose! It served many uses, one of which I blew an ember into a fire.
WOW, totally superb & insightful video, you have made my day, I've gone over this with a number of woodsmen having now and again had the same issues, off outside to have a go now! - you're a star for sharing this info - as always your videos are a pleasure to watch - thanks again :)
Thanks guys. You have some of the best vids. I learn a lot from you. :)
Thanks Lonnie good tips
Excellent. So I suppose some of the "smoke" was actually steam. makes perfect sense.
Thanks!
What outstanding knowledge. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you. Great videos
after watching so many videos on survival and bushcrafters i was afraid that most American didn't know how to survive since most channels are buy this buy that but your channel really shows bushcrafters how it should be
Great tips on the drying and using the piece of tubing
Great tip Lonnie. I had a problem in starting a friction fire several weeks ago .... very humid /damp conditions in Texas that morning. I will try some of the tips you've shared. Thanks, Ken
The lesson is learnt and appreciated too. I just love visiting with you both, Take care because we care, Duncan & Rebecca
Thanks for sharing! :) This is what is stumping me! All smoke and no ember lol, will go try this soon!
Thanks Lonnie: Chances are I will be caught because you always have something of value for us. Brian 76
thanks Lonnie!
enjoyed the tips
You are the man !! Just used all your tips and got my first friction fire on a wet cold day in the UK using willow and a boot lace bow.
Many thanks
That is awesome. Glad to hear the good news. Congratulations. Friction fires will probably get easier for you from here on.
Lonnie great tips.Thank you for sharing.
you - always teaching
me - always learning
Thanks you two great peeps!!
thanks for sharing with us I appreciate you for taking your time to bring this to us wish you all the very best until next time my friend
Good Tip. I had not heard of the drying cycle! Thank You!
Nice video. I'll have to give this method a try.
Great tips! Thank you so much for taking the time to share Lonnie! Take care my friend.
Thanks a lot for that tip! Ive learned a lot from your bowdrill videos. It helped me a lot with my first success! Wade
Excellent techniques, and they were very fast too!
Lonnie, Your videos are the BEST! you Rock!
Good tip on the drying cycles.
Great information excellent
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Good job on the video! I have only tried a friction fire once and gave up out of frustration. Now that I have this vid, I'll have another go at it and try your tips. It would be nice to have another fire starting method in my skill set. All due respect to you sir for the insight and motivation to try this again. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed the video. You may benefit from watching my video playlist at the link below. There are some tips given in those videos that you normally do not see in other channel videos.
You Can Learn Friction Fire Bowdrill
ruclips.net/video/_ayBxraYXik/видео.html
Also of interest may be the following playlist
Learn Primtive Fire Lighting Methods
ruclips.net/video/TF10v5uTAHc/видео.html
Thank you for sharing soon to be lost knowledge. Your a great teacher. I love sharing this with my 12 year old son.
Awesome tip, thank you!
I enjoyed the video. I have tried (and failed, so far) to get an ember with a bow drill set. I like the hearth board you are using in this one. All the other people I have seen doing friction fire on RUclips and elsewhere talk about cutting a notch in the side of the board in order to be able to harvest the ember, undercutting the notch so more air can get in to help form the ember and allow it to grow, cutting the notch just far enough into the spot where you are trying to make an ember but not too far, etc. It appears that you, on the other hand, just pick a spot on the more or less flat hearth board and go for it - and you get fire just as quickly.
I forgot to mention that one thing that sets the two hole method apart from the side notch method is the advantage of creating and harboring the ember off the ground on top of the board where the ember is safe from damp ground or snow.
The hearth board style I'm using here is known as the two hole, or key
hole method. One hole is made in the board and then the next hole
needs to be close by and a channel cut between the two holes so that the
hot wood dust can collect in the channel similar to the way the hot
wood dust collects in the notch of the hearth board styles you are
referring to. You can see how the two hole method is made and used by
watching my videos and video playlists linked to below.
Understanding Friction Fire Hearth board Styles
ruclips.net/video/VViLkXRjKtg/видео.html
Learn Primtive Fire Lighting Methods
ruclips.net/video/TF10v5uTAHc/видео.html
Thank you, sir. I took a look at your video about different hearth board styles. Very informative. I want to try the two hole method, now - maybe I will have more success with it than with the standard style.
Each vid is cool and this one is just a little precious present for us. Thank you and Madame from France.
really enjoy your videos thanks for sharing
Fantastic as always! Thanks for the tips cuz I'm about to start trying to learn the bow drill after I finish this semester next week
once again a good helpfull vidio thank you
great tip...thank you!
Thanks yet again for sharing your knowledge, Lonnie. Very helpful. :-)
Ralf
Good tip Lonnie, I appreciate that you share like that. This I have to test the next time I struggle.
Atb, Odd
Well, this winter I had no success with the bow drill, boy that was quite the time I tell you:) Then, it was like a miracle, after this video I made a new poplar set and tried it today, voila! It was like an instant ember after all the other tries, lol. I now look forward to trying other woods to increase my new found skill. Thank you Lonnie & hello to Connie and Buck from one happy viewer,:)
Very good video Lonny! I didn't know about the drying cycle at all! Cheers, Marc
Good job brother Lonnie!
Excellent video! Very informative!
Awsome tip, Lonnie!!!...just by blowing direct with a straw or something else. Cuts the working time by 1/3 !....the drying cycle is also very good. Thank you very much for your insights.
Homero A.
Good video man, thanks again for sharing. :) Good info on the drying cycle.
Great tip very helpful when in need of a fire.
A real good tip lonnie, many thanks for that. I'll definitely remember that one. Very useful.
Thanks for the tip, I gotta try that as I have always had trouble with getting the ember to form. nice one!
Effortless...awesome stuff.
I made my Lil' Blow Pipe out of a old car antenna. Thanks Lonnie for this Great Tip.
Thanks for all the super informative videos
Always great tips, Lonnie, Thanks Hay Connie & Scratch fer ole Buck ATB Terry God Bless
good video..like the drying part
always learn from your video's thanks for all your knowledge you take care
Great tip Lonnie! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Lonnie, great job!
been watching your videos for some time you do a very good job thank you from the heart wayne
Amazing Lonnie.
Always informative and fun!
Valuable tip sir. Thank you.
wonder top...the finer points to the craft....thank you
wow. this video explains a lot ...,, if it wont work, and it is not too wet , this is how to make it work............................love and peace
Great info Lonnie, thanks for sharing that with us!
That was very helpful. Thank you.
Thanks therefore, this is really helpful! Best Regards
Great tip Lonnie you give me the boost to go back to bow and hand drill that I haven't practice for years. Regarding the Bellew I use it since Long Time ago when my granpa teach IT to me. In France from where I come we call IT a boufadou and They are usually made with bamboo or twigs from wich you can pull out the marrow to hollow them. Old radio and car antenna are also a very good option😉
Ciao from Québec ⚜
Great tip Lonnie!
great tip,thanks for showing,and will check that channel out
atb
Steve