panellogy 260 - silent comics
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- comics without words, whole stories not only single issues.
I show and discuss:
"Hieronymus & Bosch" by Paul Kirchner (Tanibis Editions),
"Gardens of glass" by Lando (Breakdown Press),
"Largemouths" & "Xuwwuu" by Gabriel Delmas (Hollow Press),
"Soft X-Ray Mindhunters" by A.Degen (Koyama Press),
"Prosopopus" by De Crecy (Aire Libre / Dupuis)
"Nobrow magazine 9" (Nobrow Press)
"Dockwood" by Jon McNaught (Nobrow Press)
"The portable Frank" by Jim Woodring (Fantagraphics)
some related panellogies:
panellogy 243 - nicolas de crecy
panellogy 234 - nobrow press
panellogy 179 - hollow press
panellogy 117 - paul kirchner's murder by remote control
panellogy 024 - nobrow magazines
some other stuff that could have been adressed in this video ... but wasn't:
panellogy 226 - prison pit
panellogy 198 - frans masereel
panellogy 152 - from lascaux to bayeux ... very early comics
panellogy 070 - alpha & beta by jens harder
panellogy 015 - arzach by moebius
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Great themed video. You of course know Arzach, missed it? Anyway I will add some more silent comics. 1st of all comes the best(for me) and actually one of my top 10 ever: 3 secondes by Marc Antoine Mathieu. You can also find a video on RUclips about it, which is really intense since it's a 3 seconds of light speed with continuous zoom! Graphic and conceptual masterpiece from one of the most experimental authors.
Ok, going on: Arrival by Shaun Tan, Dracula by Alberto Breccia, Travel by Yuichi Yokoyama, Un Ocean d'Amour Lupano - Panaccione, Leaf by Daishu Ma, Paris Soirees by Roulet, Shintaro Kago works from Hollow Press (Industrial Revolution..., Tract, ecc), a Valentina story (the magic lantern should be the translation), 40 Days in the Desert B by Moebius, a lot of Daniel Zezelj works (Babylon, Industrial, Red Hood Redux, ecc).
Arzach!!! oha! (slapping myself against the forehead) ... no, leaving out that one was not intentional at all... but since I've done a whole video about it: hopefully forgiven (but I will add that one to the list of related panellogies in my list above)
And interesting list of creators, some of them are totally unknown to me... others I like/love (Zezelj, Breccia, Crepax)... Shintaro Kago rubs me the wrong way though
@Michele Ferrara, thank you very much for Un Ocean d'Amour (A Sea of Love) recommendation! I am not a big fan of silent comics, but this one is absolutely fantastic.
My favourite 'silent comic' was Panopticon by Thomas Ott.
A young girl visits fare/circus and weird things happen, almost short stories that all come together at the end.
He also did some others, sort of crime/mystery stories that can work in silent comics and leave you wondering WTF?
(black and white in an almost etched style)
Then there is Sean Tan(sp?) very arty silents, probably best known for The Arrival. a tale of immigration and escape from a wartorn Europe-ish Balkan-ish country (1910-ish looking) to a weird New York style city.
(very good art and worth reading, only a few years old so should be easily available?)
oha, now I remember "the flood" as well (by ....?) ... and yes, should have thought of Thomas Ott, as I said it: I probably have forgotten half of the good stuff & as tho Sean Tan: never heard that name, thanks for the heads up!
Your mention of Tom and Jerry reminded me of Mattioli's Squeak the Mouse, a silent comic where you can still practically hear the screams as cartoon violence is taken to hysterical extremes.
yes, I can see why that one is a classic ... even though I have never come beyond being "interested flipping through it but not buying"
Jason's work for the most part are filled with silence, but mostly in "sssshh". Work by Tsutomi Nihei too keep the trend of economic dialogue and let the artworks actions speak.
Kirchner's The Bus cartoon strips are also mostly silent and good. He actually sells his books on ebay, signed, of course...and quite cheap. Woodring definitely doesn't make it easy to decipher his Frank comics, does he? He had hallucinations as a kid and then saw a Surrealist exhibit, which musta cemented his mystery whatsit. Have you red his JIM book? It's got plenty of dialogue and is also very worth a read. Go to get some Jon McNaught now.
Oh, and Al Columbia's work is mostly silent, but very spare on narrative.
yupp, "the bus" is an interesting strip ... even though I like the "mild humor" of Hieronymus a bit more - but it's of course not as surrealistic or "heady" as the bus.
as to Woodring: I do have some random JIM-floppies & as far as I can tell I do like these a bit more than the silent ones.
Wow, I've just been thinking about making a silent comic. I can't wait to watch this!
would you reveal what your comic is about?
@@earlgrey862 I do alot of slapstick crime comics. Although I haven't put out much. If you go to ev_glenn on IG you will be able to see some. I also have a few on VICE comics. But now, I'm working on a piece with a writer friend of mine which is a bit more hard boiled.. but still with cartoon DNA. As its progressing, I see that it maybe works without text. So I was really wondering how that would come across. --I've got a few storyboarded comics that just might work better in silence. I'm pressing play now, to find out
thanks, I will check them out ... hrrmm: IG stands for ....?
@@earlgrey862 (after watching) Yeah, actually you helped me see something that i had been thinking about for a while regarding making silent comics. --At the end of the day, the text is what draws one into the images. Otherwise its straight up sequential art. --Which is good in its own context, but, as you said, very difficult to get a story across. --much respect. -es
@@earlgrey862 It would be a genuine honor and I would love to hear your thoughts. Instagram. I'm still trying to find a publisher that fits me right now so unfortunately I got nothing on paper outside of a few older comics in anthologies.
So, silent comics the most international of languages in the medium. From all the books presented, the Lando comic looks to me the most interesting, and it reminds Moebius a little bit. Also Nicole de Crécy, which is a favorite of mine, is also quite a comic. And of course, nobrow!! I love the Jon McNaught work with a unique storytelling and rhythm of their own. About Frank , I quite like them, and I know they seem surreal with those cute characters with serious and almost cruel traits. The Paul Kirchner comic, which seems very interesting, kind of reminds me of another silent comic about Bosch by Max - "Tríptico de los encantados", who was published by the Museo del Prado in 2016.
As others recommendations, I would mention " Comix 2000", the biggest collection of silent comics (ever) by L'Association and "Adventures of a Japanese Businessman" by José Domingo, published by nobrow.
I do have that "comix 2000" anthology ... but that one is worth a video on its own, respectively sth for Krouch who has wanted to make sth about it since forever (stimmt doch Krouch, oder ? :) )
Hope to see it shortly,@@earlgrey862!! And thanks for this one :)
Hieronymus & Bosch seems like it would be good in a weekly underground newspaper...if such things still exist.
I was always fascinated by that Goya painting as a kid. I practically transcends the artist's oeuvre and speaks to us on some Jungian / Freudian level, I think.
At the end of the day, what's most compelling to me is the combination of words and pictures. I suppose if there were only "silent" comics I might adjust more to that format more. I also associate the "silent" comics with "art" comics which are more of a trip than a story...art books with a touch of continuity (I liked the look of the Mindhunters)
What if someone claimed to be doing comics without pictures!!
"Hieronymus & Bosch" has apparently been pre-published ... but like it is nowadays: in the internet - on the adult swim-website. And Kirchner mentioned in "Awaiting the collapse" new dope rider one pagers which he publishes in "High Times" (that one still around?!)
I’m pretty sure I saw somewhere that Mike Mignola is a big fan of that Goya painting. I think it appeals to comic book artists because the subject matter is in the same wheel house, more or less.
.... like other mythological stories about titans and superhero-/supervillain-like gods, yes and in terms of this particular depiction there's definitely some bonus weirdness added on top of it.
very interesting, I did not know that silent comics existed...I agree with you, they are interesting but I miss the words...in italian comic is fumetto, which means '' little smoke' where you write the words, so without fumetto, you cannot have a fumetto (comic)...but it is interseting and as usual I'm looking forward to a silent comic that will entice me....thank you for uploading!
interesting ... but labels are often not coherent... for we call a comic still a comic even when it's a sad one
@@earlgrey862 yep! that's true..:-)..on a different note I love silent movies...some are better than the normal ones...
ahh ... Metropolis, Fritz Lang, Louise Brooks ... those were the times! and people didn't even had to use 3d-glasses
@@earlgrey862 exactly!...no need for that, great movies...by the way today I got L'Eternauta the 400 pages hard cover book, looking forward to reading it...your channel has inspired me to buy and read comics, thank you!
@@earlgrey862 I was actually thinking about silent movies as the closest media to comics...basically all the ingredients are there in different quantities...by the way check this out, you may not now this one ruclips.net/video/CkXlXc0lA9c/видео.html
I would love to spend some time personally checking out all the different books in your collection. To the point where you would get sick of me being around constantly & have to ask me to leave and never come back.
oha... (looking over my shoulder) ... now I'm a bit afraid ... the dark side of being such a star youtuber like I am: behold, the first stalker!
I only wish there was a HC Dope Rider collection. Only available in the Awaiting the Collapse book..
yes... and I'm still not quite sure about the coloring. I prefer the older black & white version in my German U-Comix Sonderband to be honest.
We'll publish a "Dope Rider" collection one of these days. But it will probably be in color: even if there were some nice French and German black & white editions in the eighties, these pages were designed to be printed in color. Anyway, thank you for this nice video.
hey, it's always neat to get some response from the ones responsible, thank you and thanks for your amazing books & of course... I appreciate your efforts with the coloring of the dope rider pages, it's definitely a new experience this way. Will you include new dope rider pages in this upcoming book?
In the postscript of "Awaiting the Collapse", Paul wrote a few words about the dope rider colors and the differences between the 1970-1980s pages published in High Times magazine and our 2017 edition: "Early on I could only afford a limited palette and the colors were highly saturated-you couldn’t get a muted tone. For this anthology I recreated the colors on the computer and, though mostly faithful to the originals, I have replaced many colors with subtler ones that I wished I had had back then."
We'd like to publish a Dope Rider collection which would include all classic and recent pages, but we'll see…
"We'd like to publish a Dope Rider collection which would include all classic and recent pages, but we'll see…"
please please ... I would promote the heck out of it on my little channel,
keep up the good work!
Great video as always. One recommendation from me: 'Almost Silent' (appropriate name!) by Jason. He's a great cartoonist and his story telling is unique, to say the least. Check him out if you haven't done so already.
oh yes, Jason! his comics look very intriguing ... but ... hmm ... stupid as it sounds ... there are so many from him, that I'm bit anxious to go down that rabbithole. but I have a feeling that sooner or later ...
thanks for commenting anyway
Age of reptiles
yes, and there's this series about that little dinosaur called .... the title escapes me right now, but it was sth short ... but I haven't read that one neither... as I said it: silent comics are actually & usually not my prime interest.
"Gon"
The creator of Age of Reptiles did an interesting 'silent comic' sci-fi miniseries titled, Herioglyph. Four issues, IRCC. Cool images and creatures: www.google.com/search?q=Ricardo+Delgado+hieroglyph&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiLrN2c4qDhAhUZGDQIHeuGDuoQ_AUIDigB&biw=1280&bih=592
No Max Enrst reprints? No Moebius?
I'll never said I would cover ALL the important silent comics (I don't know too many to begin with)... should have included or at least mentioned Arzach though.
But Ernst is a beast of his own...