Dr Stephen spoke with a lot of sentiments and teachings from his highly placed pastors, while daddy Freeze spoke with facts all scripture based. The lesson i learnt from this debate is to invest your money. Tithing will not make you rich.
Dude wasn’t even listening. He was just waiting to respond with what he was taught by his GO with no reference to the scriptures whatsoever. He’s the quintessential Nigerian Christian or should I say Churchian.
What of the Book of Malachi 3:10 Tithe was in existing before the coming of Mosaic Law.. Abraham gave tithe to Melchizedek how do you explain that oga.... Tithing is an issue of covenant. Infact in the new testament we are not giving 10% we are giving all.. it means everything you have you must be ready to surrender it all oga. So choose one 10% or ALL...
@@JourneytoEmmaus1Those who sold their properties and brought the money to the feet of the Apostles did so voluntarily. They were not compelled to. It was voluntary.
@@JourneytoEmmaus1Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek, good, so, anyone who wants to follow that example must pay his or her tithe the same way Abraham paid it; remove 10% of your salary, pay it as your tithe, and then return the remaining 90% to your employer. Simple.
Dr Stephen still needs a lot of time to focus his opinion. The Daddy, didn't go to school of ministry but he did a whoa job on the topic of tithe. Dr Stephen did a good job of being all over the place with his arguments. His argument that those who debate tithing are the poor is a self revealing insinuation. The Doctor is very empty on scripture but is full in wisdom of man - preaching of his favorite pastors.
The fake Dr. has no wisdom in delivery. Same dude went on a public African American podcast to say he forgets to tell his wife he is traveling to another country until same day of trip. It might sound okay in Naija but it sounds very mean and abooosive to an American audience that you just go and come without informing your wife. Anyways to each his own
@@iheanyifredrick2723 You need to be able to differentiate “His truth and The Truth” The Truth is based on Scripture, his truth is based on his belief system.
@@iheanyifredrick2723Good for you and the Dr...you could have just said you agree with the Dr and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I for one would have liked him to speak on 'tithing' which is a religious concept....balancing his arguments on biblical scriptures. The truth is he is very eemptyy on scriptures on tithing 😢
What an intriguing debate! Dr. Stephen Akintayo, my real estate mentor, I must advise you candidly: you're not suited for these deep biblical inspirational debates. Focus on real estate and let Daddy Freeze handle his calling. It only took me three minutes to predict the outcome of the debate. Dr., your context was the most bizarre I've ever encountered.
He is brainwashed.so full with ignorannce and won't allow DF talk.If he spoke well,where is the sound scriptural backing?the guy was jus blabbing..DF just allowed him to talk
@iheanyifredrick2723 Do not shift the goal post. There's no debate on helping people here but the conversation was centered on tithe and he couldn't defend his position with scriptural references. What he did was waffle and prevent the other party from speaking. He also facilitated that conversation so DF gave him a soft landing.
Am 20 mins in and I can’t believe how this man is all over the place trying to take over the conversation but can’t effectively get his point across. This is the problem with pastors, they are so used to lecturing people that they cannot have a civil discourse. Kudos to Daddy freeze for being respectful but yet as usual was able to school him
Dr. Damina dey him own ooo, Another man throwing shade at him. SMH Dr. Damina countless time has come out to say he misled people with the prosperity teaching, which he has also apologized many times and is now preaching against that transactional gospel. You believe in tithing oya continue with it. Una don win. I thank God for delivering me from this tithing thing.
Galatians 3:10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[a] Meaning if you are keeping to tithe and can't keep to the remaining law of Moses in the old testament, you are caused.
My take on this man's submissions: 1. Advising that people should not challenge elders but pray for them is very unscriptural and inhuman. Jesus challenged the pharisees and the scribes. Developed countries are what they are because the people speak and not pray 2. That his mum paid tithe till she died. The mum did because that was what she was fed with but that does not make it right. 3. That Jesus did not abolish the law and that he did not condemn payment of tithe. Firstly, Christ could not have condemned payment of tithe because that was the custom of the Jewish people. The tithe was to be paid to a certain tribe that were dedicated to God but didn't possession any wealth. The question is does that in anyway fit the description of any nigerian pastor? 2. Did Jesus and the apostles collected tithe? No, they couldn't because they were not Levites and as such, they could not. It was as a result of rhis they had to ask the people to give. So the question is are nigerian pastors levites? 3. We are Christians and should do what the Apostles did in the book of the Acts. They were taking and giving to their members according to their needs. Are the Nigerian pastors doing this? Daddy Freeze, please we want scholars and not follwers. Thank you
When Jesus was on Earth in the flesh, the law was still in operation, so, at that period, Jesus could not have condemned it. Bear in mind that payment of tithe in the old covenant(erroneously refered to as the old testament) was God's instruction. However, the law expired after the resurrection of Christ, so, under this new covenant(in this dispensation), tithing is not part of the Christian doctrine. Pastors have the right to ask Church members to donate towards Church projects and Church programmes. Pastors can also teach their members on the benefits of giving, this way, people can give freely and cheerfully without being forced or coerced to give.
@@iheanyifredrick2723 Are you aware that after the death and resurrecfion of Jesus, the apostles planted Churches in different cities, and in each of the Churches, there were those that can be refered to as "resident Pastors" Though, at that period, the local assemblies were not refered to as "Churches" they were called "Eklessia"(the called out ones). The word "Church" is another error, because I know the origin of the word "Church" but that is not a topic for today. I am not the owner of this platform, I am only here to comment. My question: Did members in any of the Churches pay tithe?
@@akinropoakinwande1263 JESUS USED THE WORD CHURCH WHEN TALKING TO PETER THAT ON THIS ROCK WILL MY CHURCH BE BUILT, DON'T USE GREEK ETC TO EXPLAIN THIS SPIRITUAL HOLY BOOK OF GOD TO DIRECT MAN. DON'T ADD OR REMOVE FROM THE SCRIPTURE. YOUR ACCLAIMED KNOWLEDGE THROUGH YOUR INTERPRETATION WILL REMOVE OR ADD TO THE SCRIPTURE. GOD MADE US KNOW THROUGH SCRIPTURE THAT THIS BOOK CAN BE UNDERSTOOD BY THE SPIRIT BUT BOTH FREEZE AND SOME OTHERS ARE USING INTELLECTUALLITY TO EXPLAIN THE BIBLE. THAT'S WHY THE SPIRIT THAT BRINGS THE OUTCOME OF SUCH MESSAGES FROM THEM COMES WITH AND FILL UP A PERSON WITH HATE INSTEAD OF LOVE, ANGER ALL THE FRUIT OF THE FLESH NOT THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT. THERE'S A SPIRIT BEHIND ALL THIS
All who says that this man is wrong; 1. Which life have you changed 2. He didn't force anyone to tithe 3. Jesus was an evangelist not a pastor 4. The apostles collection was more than tithe 5. Since you've started your lifestyle now are you still feeling OK with your faith, are you feeling the heart beat of heaven. 6. REPENT 7. IT'S BETTER TO FOLLOW THE FATHERS WHO FOLLOWED THE FATHERS AND MAKE HEAVEN, KNOW THAT ALL THIS NEW KNOWLEDGE ARE NOT SURE OF HEAVEN. 8. REPENT
Tithing is not wrong, but not absolutely compulsory. If you get blessed from tithing, you may go ahead with it. Should Christians tithe ?, If you want to, and can, Yes
Its funny how people (with a dr attached to his name) can make mockery of themselves...the mistake he made was giving DF that 5mins he asked for...and when he saw DF did a number on him he said DF time was up...and to make matters worst he wont admit he lost the debate he went around talking about respect and personal opinions and building people...im still trying to see where disrespect and respect came into the conversation 😅😅😅
@30th minute, Dr Steve, if your father was never responsible for you growing up, and you choose to reward him positively, what message are you sending to the negligent fathers who are currently not being responsible for their kids?
The Dr is just talking bs.i guess DF allowed him to talk based on guest.he has spoken for about 1hr20mins saying nothing..using hiw own wisdom to say how he feels things should be.DF allowed him talk and exposed a behomoth of ignorance.
Wow listening to this man reafirms the religon was made for slaves to have a believe they need anyhing om this earth and to just strive for heaven. It is so intresting hearing debates on this just give a deeper insight into one of the mass programming strategy done to Africans. I guess this is why slaves couldnt worship with their masters
This Dr should not hve invested the 90% and see how his tithe will work for him.i couldnt wait for him to end his talk everytime.very shallow..he should stick to investments.The Dr is scriptutally bankrupt.
The scriptures is of no private interpretation sir, I think daddy freeze is right. This man gave 10% cheerfully but ignorantly calling it tithe. So freeze expounded on the scriptures and we need to speak against the rituals of tithe thses fathers endorses.. the fact is to give cheerfully we are not under the law,if you subject yourself under tithe, then you need to fulfil the 613 laws.
Whenever money leaves your hands and you give to God or man, either it comes in form of tithe or offering or financial support for the poor or orphans or widows, it has become a seed, and there is no seed that does not produce an harvest. So, the fact that a person is paying tithe and getting blessed should not be a surprise. However, the law of tithing has expired.
Who respect help? Na the same so called respect put Nigeria and Nigerians for the mess we’ve found ourselves since 1999. A President of Nigeria would steal from the state treasury, we talk about respect for leaders.
Dr. Akintayo, what if your father was wrong on an issue that can cause violence or even war, or on a doctrine that will destroy the destiny of many generations, will you still keep quiet and just be praying for him? And do you think God 'touching' him would have happened if everyone kept their mouth shut and didn't raise noise on the issue like you did? Oyinbo land, that all of us japa to, are developed today because people always speak out. A person won't hesitate to report anyone, including his own parents, if they are wrong or violating any rules. Dr. Akintayo, it wouldn't have been out of place to just communicate, even if it is secretly, to Pastor Adeboye on those things you know he is doing wrong for him to have another look into them than rather just religiously praying for God to touch him and realize he is wrong in those things. That would have been one prayer point away from so many things we pray about in this country.
this man sef, how is it the responsibility of the church to help people become financially free? is that the work of the church. if you want to be financially free is the pastor in the best place to help you achieve that?
All of you that are talking against this doctor, his speaking sentimentally with a few knowledge of the word of GOD. But he has said all that happens in the church and and how they don't squander the tithe and other seeds but yes you are still speaking against him as not knowing, what exactly do you want hear, you just want to hear the bad bad news, but when the good news comes out you neglect it.
This is not a debate at all. I just heard one man going on and on and on. Not allowing the other party express his point. I dislike conversations like this. Daddy Freeze was really liberal to the guest in this conversation.
Do you know Oyedepo wasn’t allowed to enter the UK for a while. Mainly because of his lavish lifestyle while running a church which is regarded as a charity in the UK. Oyedepo has increased school fees because God told him to. BS
This man doesn't like to be corrected.And that pastor he calims he is parading himself as doctrinal saint is better than all our pastors who refuse to do a U-turn.at least he did a u turn others refused to.
Be very carefull , we the Yorubas and Igbos are Isralites , and we are from the lost sheep of the house of Israelites by blood and by spirit , so we have to pay tithe unto Levi !!!!!
THE ABLE DR HAS JUST NAILED HIM SELF BY SAYING THAT ANYONE WHO GIVES WILL PROSPER. SO TITHING DOES NOT MAKE YOU PROSPER BUT (GIVING). EVERY GIVER WILL SUCCEED IF YOU ALSO INVEST.
The Yoruba culture forbids the correction of the elderly by the young ones which I thought not from that tribe do respect however the book of Job pointed out clearly that a young man corrected job and his three friends when they were wrong 🤔🤔
Dr was just talking eba and fufu. Bro was proper all over the place on a high cringy level. 😅 You can't prove tithing with sentiment and emotions while throwing scriptures away. Dr you lost woefully and you should be embarrassed 😂
🤔 this kinda debate sha. Justice for Aninias and Sapphira. Nah every time they want to enforce the fear of tithing/giving their names are mentioned. He who has a bible, let him carry it and study it very well. Some people have vowed to profit with the faith of others. Who no know go know. The audacity of this OPM and crowd funding is other people's ignorance.
If we all listen to Dr. Akintayo from about 40:00 he said one can be financially stable without tithing. So, what happens to the devourers of that they said will invade non-tithers wealth, are they only threating us with this statementt? Have all the devourers resigned or they were all sacked? Main point, even if you give 100% of your income as tithe and you are clueless about Business and Investment, you will be poorer than the proverbial church rat.
Oga una pastor bin dey use tithes to enrich himself. He knew what he was doing. After him done become a billionaire, him come dey pretend as if him no bin know...NO EXCUSE
Daddy breeze , I won’t agree that Paul was poor , the only thing is that he went through different seasons that’s why he said I av learnt to abound and abase , then somtx has a leader he will rather use his resources to help others , if he was poor he won’t have done soo much he did , our argument here should be what should minister do with wealth and riches wen it comes to off or to spread. Also remember Paul has no wife and children that should be put in factor too , thanks
Dr. Akintayo is busy giving us personal experiences. No intellectual puncturing of DF points. He appealed to sentiments for the most part of the time. This is doesn't qualify to be tagged a debate.
I stopped listening to the video when the guy spewed out that it was wrong to correct elders outside the market. Daddy GO even said it is okay to come to him and let him know if he said something wrong. I blamed those members or even RCCG pastors close to him but who were not bold enough to correct Baba privately and waited for the outsiders to call Baba out. If you fail to correct elders privately whenever he commits to blunder , you will expose him to outside ridicule. Saying you will pray for elder when he says something wrong is a high level of hypocrisy.
Doctor is being too emotional because of personal experience. We all were members of Winners too ooo. However finance is needed to run an organization /church but not deceiving ppl like we see today.
To me, this Dŕ Stephen is just arguing blindly. No one is asking pastors not to raise money for programmes and projects. No one is asking people not to sow into pastors lives but the law on tithing has expired
59:16 mumu doctor. Ppl didn’t leave churches cos they felt hurt. Ppl are leaving cos the age of Pisces (jesus) programming is ending and we moving into the age of Aquarius (innovation technology humanity). Na internet expose una sakamanje scam😅
It is better not to defend the so called men of God because you can’t know enough about them. Please when following them open your two eyes and inner eye
I just remembered Cecilia Ibru was a "dangerous" tither and giver. She was a force to recon with in the banking industry some years back. She is currently in her village languishing.
This dude is a liar. Oyedepo admitted that he is collecting salary. He came here to tell us lies that Oyedepo ain’t getting paid by the church. This is a lie from the devil.
The man has very good points but he needs to understand that tithe is done with, cheerful giving is good. And our pastors should be transparent about how they spend tge church money..
Even the well educated people fall for religion so it’s not even about being smart or intelligent. You just need an open mind and a critical one
Funny enough, NO religious person can ever debate without sounding stupid. DR. Indeed. We're even glad he turned up for a debate.
Dr Stephen spoke with a lot of sentiments and teachings from his highly placed pastors, while daddy Freeze spoke with facts all scripture based. The lesson i learnt from this debate is to invest your money. Tithing will not make you rich.
Dude wasn’t even listening. He was just waiting to respond with what he was taught by his GO with no reference to the scriptures whatsoever. He’s the quintessential Nigerian Christian or should I say Churchian.
Walai. Very true. He sounded like he was talking to very low iq people. I felt insulted by this debate
What of the Book of Malachi 3:10
Tithe was in existing before the coming of Mosaic Law..
Abraham gave tithe to Melchizedek how do you explain that oga....
Tithing is an issue of covenant.
Infact in the new testament we are not giving 10% we are giving all.. it means everything you have you must be ready to surrender it all oga.
So choose one
10% or ALL...
@@JourneytoEmmaus1smh...me don tire to the lecture people wey nor just sabi...u still de talk mal 3:10 in 2024?
@@JourneytoEmmaus1Those who sold their properties and brought the money to the feet of the Apostles did so voluntarily. They were not compelled to. It was voluntary.
@@JourneytoEmmaus1Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek, good, so, anyone who wants to follow that example must pay his or her tithe the same way Abraham paid it; remove 10% of your salary, pay it as your tithe, and then return the remaining 90% to your employer. Simple.
We are entitled to our opinion,but we are not entitled to the facts
Dr Stephen still needs a lot of time to focus his opinion. The Daddy, didn't go to school of ministry but he did a whoa job on the topic of tithe. Dr Stephen did a good job of being all over the place with his arguments. His argument that those who debate tithing are the poor is a self revealing insinuation. The Doctor is very empty on scripture but is full in wisdom of man - preaching of his favorite pastors.
The fake Dr. has no wisdom in delivery. Same dude went on a public African American podcast to say he forgets to tell his wife he is traveling to another country until same day of trip. It might sound okay in Naija but it sounds very mean and abooosive to an American audience that you just go and come without informing your wife. Anyways to each his own
Whoo you people are something else , the dr has said the truth and still you won't believe
@@iheanyifredrick2723 You need to be able to differentiate “His truth and The Truth” The Truth is based on Scripture, his truth is based on his belief system.
@@iheanyifredrick2723truth without scriptural back up?
@@iheanyifredrick2723Good for you and the Dr...you could have just said you agree with the Dr and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I for one would have liked him to speak on 'tithing' which is a religious concept....balancing his arguments on biblical scriptures. The truth is he is very eemptyy on scriptures on tithing 😢
What an intriguing debate! Dr. Stephen Akintayo, my real estate mentor, I must advise you candidly: you're not suited for these deep biblical inspirational debates. Focus on real estate and let Daddy Freeze handle his calling. It only took me three minutes to predict the outcome of the debate. Dr., your context was the most bizarre I've ever encountered.
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I think Dr stephen spoke very well.
A very balanced view.
He is brainwashed.so full with ignorannce and won't allow DF talk.If he spoke well,where is the sound scriptural backing?the guy was jus blabbing..DF just allowed him to talk
So Oyedepo invests in people with church money then benefits personally from the investment and become personally rich...lol
He didn't show intelligence and does not know the Bible.
Dr spoke well, all of you saying nonsense what life have you impacted
@iheanyifredrick2723 Do not shift the goal post. There's no debate on helping people here but the conversation was centered on tithe and he couldn't defend his position with scriptural references. What he did was waffle and prevent the other party from speaking. He also facilitated that conversation so DF gave him a soft landing.
This is the best daddy Freeze discussion I have listened to.
Daddy freeze thanks for ur maturity in handling issues now , Dr Steve has spoken my mind and I respect both of you
Dr explanation is a personal experience can not be used for hypothesis.
Am 20 mins in and I can’t believe how this man is all over the place trying to take over the conversation but can’t effectively get his point across. This is the problem with pastors, they are so used to lecturing people that they cannot have a civil discourse. Kudos to Daddy freeze for being respectful but yet as usual was able to school him
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Dr. Damina dey him own ooo, Another man throwing shade at him. SMH
Dr. Damina countless time has come out to say he misled people with the prosperity teaching, which he has also apologized many times and is now preaching against that transactional gospel.
You believe in tithing oya continue with it. Una don win.
I thank God for delivering me from this tithing thing.
Hello daddy Freeze , please I need the Dr to discuss investment , thanks.
Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[a]
Meaning if you are keeping to tithe and can't keep to the remaining law of Moses in the old testament, you are caused.
My take on this man's submissions:
1. Advising that people should not challenge elders but pray for them is very unscriptural and inhuman. Jesus challenged the pharisees and the scribes. Developed countries are what they are because the people speak and not pray
2. That his mum paid tithe till she died. The mum did because that was what she was fed with but that does not make it right.
3. That Jesus did not abolish the law and that he did not condemn payment of tithe.
Firstly, Christ could not have condemned payment of tithe because that was the custom of the Jewish people. The tithe was to be paid to a certain tribe that were dedicated to God but didn't possession any wealth. The question is does that in anyway fit the description of any nigerian pastor?
2. Did Jesus and the apostles collected tithe? No, they couldn't because they were not Levites and as such, they could not. It was as a result of rhis they had to ask the people to give. So the question is are nigerian pastors levites?
3. We are Christians and should do what the Apostles did in the book of the Acts. They were taking and giving to their members according to their needs. Are the Nigerian pastors doing this?
Daddy Freeze, please we want scholars and not follwers.
Thank you
When Jesus was on Earth in the flesh, the law was still in operation, so, at that period, Jesus could not have condemned it. Bear in mind that payment of tithe in the old covenant(erroneously refered to as the old testament) was God's instruction. However, the law expired after the resurrection of Christ, so, under this new covenant(in this dispensation), tithing is not part of the Christian doctrine. Pastors have the right to ask Church members to donate towards Church projects and Church programmes. Pastors can also teach their members on the benefits of giving, this way, people can give freely and cheerfully without being forced or coerced to give.
@@akinropoakinwande1263Jesus is an evangelist, so he will not take tithe, also the apostle collected more than tithe
@@iheanyifredrick2723 Are you aware that after the death and resurrecfion of Jesus, the apostles planted Churches in different cities, and in each of the Churches, there were those that can be refered to as "resident Pastors" Though, at that period, the local assemblies were not refered to as "Churches" they were called "Eklessia"(the called out ones). The word "Church" is another error, because I know the origin of the word "Church" but that is not a topic for today. I am not the owner of this platform, I am only here to comment. My question: Did members in any of the Churches pay tithe?
@@akinropoakinwande1263 JESUS USED THE WORD CHURCH WHEN TALKING TO PETER THAT ON THIS ROCK WILL MY CHURCH BE BUILT, DON'T USE GREEK ETC TO EXPLAIN THIS SPIRITUAL HOLY BOOK OF GOD TO DIRECT MAN. DON'T ADD OR REMOVE FROM THE SCRIPTURE. YOUR ACCLAIMED KNOWLEDGE THROUGH YOUR INTERPRETATION WILL REMOVE OR ADD TO THE SCRIPTURE. GOD MADE US KNOW THROUGH SCRIPTURE THAT THIS BOOK CAN BE UNDERSTOOD BY THE SPIRIT BUT BOTH FREEZE AND SOME OTHERS ARE USING INTELLECTUALLITY TO EXPLAIN THE BIBLE. THAT'S WHY THE SPIRIT THAT BRINGS THE OUTCOME OF SUCH MESSAGES FROM THEM COMES WITH AND FILL UP A PERSON WITH HATE INSTEAD OF LOVE, ANGER ALL THE FRUIT OF THE FLESH NOT THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT.
THERE'S A SPIRIT BEHIND ALL THIS
@@akinropoakinwande1263 I wish they have the revelation that you have about the differences between the old and new testaments
Tithing is an honour system. There is no compulsion to it. Honour God with your substance.
is there PRIDE in POVERTY
So during covid-19, when no one paid thite and offerings, what happened ?
10% plus government tax and other...then how much is left?
Lol
All who says that this man is wrong;
1. Which life have you changed
2. He didn't force anyone to tithe
3. Jesus was an evangelist not a pastor
4. The apostles collection was more than tithe
5. Since you've started your lifestyle now are you still feeling OK with your faith, are you feeling the heart beat of heaven.
6. REPENT
7. IT'S BETTER TO FOLLOW THE FATHERS WHO FOLLOWED THE FATHERS AND MAKE HEAVEN, KNOW THAT ALL THIS NEW KNOWLEDGE ARE NOT SURE OF HEAVEN.
8. REPENT
Emptiness..no scripture just emptiness like your ghoes
Tithing is not wrong, but not absolutely compulsory. If you get blessed from tithing, you may go ahead with it. Should Christians tithe ?, If you want to, and can, Yes
Its funny how people (with a dr attached to his name) can make mockery of themselves...the mistake he made was giving DF that 5mins he asked for...and when he saw DF did a number on him he said DF time was up...and to make matters worst he wont admit he lost the debate he went around talking about respect and personal opinions and building people...im still trying to see where disrespect and respect came into the conversation 😅😅😅
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@30th minute, Dr Steve, if your father was never responsible for you growing up, and you choose to reward him positively, what message are you sending to the negligent fathers who are currently not being responsible for their kids?
The Dr is just talking bs.i guess DF allowed him to talk based on guest.he has spoken for about 1hr20mins saying nothing..using hiw own wisdom to say how he feels things should be.DF allowed him talk and exposed a behomoth of ignorance.
Wow listening to this man reafirms the religon was made for slaves to have a believe they need anyhing om this earth and to just strive for heaven. It is so intresting hearing debates on this just give a deeper insight into one of the mass programming strategy done to Africans. I guess this is why slaves couldnt worship with their masters
Slave that's richer than you, keep speaking from your level
I feel like daddy freeze didn't finish giving all his points. Make the argument no go another angle.
The conversation took a wrong turn and respect was a case In point...lol
This Dr should not hve invested the 90% and see how his tithe will work for him.i couldnt wait for him to end his talk everytime.very shallow..he should stick to investments.The Dr is scriptutally bankrupt.
The scriptures is of no private interpretation sir, I think daddy freeze is right. This man gave 10% cheerfully but ignorantly calling it tithe. So freeze expounded on the scriptures and we need to speak against the rituals of tithe thses fathers endorses.. the fact is to give cheerfully we are not under the law,if you subject yourself under tithe, then you need to fulfil the 613 laws.
Whenever money leaves your hands and you give to God or man, either it comes in form of tithe or offering or financial support for the poor or orphans or widows, it has become a seed, and there is no seed that does not produce an harvest. So, the fact that a person is paying tithe and getting blessed should not be a surprise. However, the law of tithing has expired.
Who respect help? Na the same so called respect put Nigeria and Nigerians for the mess we’ve found ourselves since 1999. A President of Nigeria would steal from the state treasury, we talk about respect for leaders.
The only sensible response from the numbers of respondents on the topic 👏 👌 👍
Peoples Time and Money has been captured
People don waste time and data finish upon NOTHING from Dr. Akintayo
This guy is not allowing Daddy Freeze to talk. 😡
The Dr is more concerned about being rich than being scripturally correct.
I wonder why Daddy freeze agree to debate tithing with this unschooled fellow.
Dr. Akintayo, what if your father was wrong on an issue that can cause violence or even war, or on a doctrine that will destroy the destiny of many generations, will you still keep quiet and just be praying for him?
And do you think God 'touching' him would have happened if everyone kept their mouth shut and didn't raise noise on the issue like you did?
Oyinbo land, that all of us japa to, are developed today because people always speak out. A person won't hesitate to report anyone, including his own parents, if they are wrong or violating any rules.
Dr. Akintayo, it wouldn't have been out of place to just communicate, even if it is secretly, to Pastor Adeboye on those things you know he is doing wrong for him to have another look into them than rather just religiously praying for God to touch him and realize he is wrong in those things. That would have been one prayer point away from so many things we pray about in this country.
Stephen Akintayo please stick to real estate
this man sef, how is it the responsibility of the church to help people become financially free? is that the work of the church. if you want to be financially free is the pastor in the best place to help you achieve that?
The church should not cojole people with tithes, but we should give willingly, hoping God Will bless us and with hardwork.
All of you that are talking against this doctor, his speaking sentimentally with a few knowledge of the word of GOD. But he has said all that happens in the church and and how they don't squander the tithe and other seeds but yes you are still speaking against him as not knowing, what exactly do you want hear, you just want to hear the bad bad news, but when the good news comes out you neglect it.
This is not a debate at all. I just heard one man going on and on and on. Not allowing the other party express his point. I dislike conversations like this. Daddy Freeze was really liberal to the guest in this conversation.
Do you know Oyedepo wasn’t allowed to enter the UK for a while. Mainly because of his lavish lifestyle while running a church which is regarded as a charity in the UK.
Oyedepo has increased school fees because God told him to. BS
No Evidence 😂😂😂
Point of correction: SCRIPTURES = OLD TESTAMENT but not the Epistles in the new testament, not even the gospels.
Im with Daddy Freeze with this “African Tithe topic” So Stephen….Will you keep Quiet 🤫- (Patience Goodluck-Johnathan Voice😆)
This man doesn't like to be corrected.And that pastor he calims he is parading himself as doctrinal saint is better than all our pastors who refuse to do a U-turn.at least he did a u turn others refused to.
What is wrong with "Study to show thyself approved?"
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This man does not know how to dialogue. Just mouthing on and on.
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Be very carefull , we the Yorubas and Igbos are Isralites , and we are from the lost sheep of the house of Israelites by blood and by spirit , so we have to pay tithe unto Levi !!!!!
Dr Ai
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THE ABLE DR HAS JUST NAILED HIM SELF BY SAYING THAT ANYONE WHO GIVES WILL PROSPER. SO TITHING DOES NOT MAKE YOU PROSPER BUT (GIVING). EVERY GIVER WILL SUCCEED IF YOU ALSO INVEST.
The man not listening, he just want to debate.
Daddy Freeze just dey do hmm....hmmm...hmmm for 1hour 😂😂😂
This is obviously not a debate, but the question here is "what kind of Dr. is this man" ?
This Dr. Self no know werin he dey talk. Daddy freeze pls teach am well
Stephen say Jesus is the light😂😂😂
Azin ehnn.....😂😂😂
Dr Stephen is just talking about his personal experience about tithing. All what he said was not scripture based.
They are both having two different debates.
This Mr Steven is talking like an Illiterate with no knowledge of the Scriptures......... But he's a Doctor 😂😂 Irony of Life
No religious bigot can sincerely stand for a sound debate irony. We're even lucky that he came to debate with DF.
This si called Dr wants to continue tithing with AI,olodo
I don’t think he’s an academic doctor… must be honorary
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The Yoruba culture forbids the correction of the elderly by the young ones which I thought not from that tribe do respect however the book of Job pointed out clearly that a young man corrected job and his three friends when they were wrong 🤔🤔
Ask him how he made his money. I bet the story no go clear.
Dr was just talking eba and fufu. Bro was proper all over the place on a high cringy level. 😅 You can't prove tithing with sentiment and emotions while throwing scriptures away. Dr you lost woefully and you should be embarrassed 😂
🤔 this kinda debate sha.
Justice for Aninias and Sapphira. Nah every time they want to enforce the fear of tithing/giving their names are mentioned.
He who has a bible, let him carry it and study it very well.
Some people have vowed to profit with the faith of others. Who no know go know.
The audacity of this OPM and crowd funding is other people's ignorance.
If we all listen to Dr. Akintayo from about 40:00 he said one can be financially stable without tithing. So, what happens to the devourers of that they said will invade non-tithers wealth, are they only threating us with this statementt? Have all the devourers resigned or they were all sacked?
Main point, even if you give 100% of your income as tithe and you are clueless about Business and Investment, you will be poorer than the proverbial church rat.
Oga una pastor bin dey use tithes to enrich himself. He knew what he was doing. After him done become a billionaire, him come dey pretend as if him no bin know...NO EXCUSE
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Daddy breeze , I won’t agree that Paul was poor , the only thing is that he went through different seasons that’s why he said I av learnt to abound and abase , then somtx has a leader he will rather use his resources to help others , if he was poor he won’t have done soo much he did , our argument here should be what should minister do with wealth and riches wen it comes to off or to spread.
Also remember Paul has no wife and children that should be put in factor too , thanks
Instead of you to just focus on your real estate 😂.
As in 😅
I'd be so embarrassed after this debate
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Dr. Akintayo is busy giving us personal experiences. No intellectual puncturing of DF points. He appealed to sentiments for the most part of the time. This is doesn't qualify to be tagged a debate.
how is this a debate, dr keeps talking and not allow daddy freeze speak
I stopped listening to the video when the guy spewed out that it was wrong to correct elders outside the market. Daddy GO even said it is okay to come to him and let him know if he said something wrong. I blamed those members or even RCCG pastors close to him but who were not bold enough to correct Baba privately and waited for the outsiders to call Baba out. If you fail to correct elders privately whenever he commits to blunder , you will expose him to outside ridicule. Saying you will pray for elder when he says something wrong is a high level of hypocrisy.
The dr used more sentiments that scripture sadly
Doctor is being too emotional because of personal experience. We all were members of Winners too ooo. However finance is needed to run an organization /church but not deceiving ppl like we see today.
Werey
To me, this Dŕ Stephen is just arguing blindly. No one is asking pastors not to raise money for programmes and projects. No one is asking people not to sow into pastors lives but the law on tithing has expired
This is not Debate at all, you're just burning our data.
It is very difficult arguing with a very ignorant mind.. Daddy Freeze sef weak he no fit argue
59:16 mumu doctor. Ppl didn’t leave churches cos they felt hurt. Ppl are leaving cos the age of Pisces (jesus) programming is ending and we moving into the age of Aquarius (innovation technology humanity). Na internet expose una sakamanje scam😅
The man is trying to make a simple point that tithing is a biblical phenomenon. It's not wrong to tithe and it's not compulsory.
Biblical for who?
It is better not to defend the so called men of God because you can’t know enough about them. Please when following them open your two eyes and inner eye
Freeze thinks it is scripture. quotation contest.
All religion has is EXCUSES
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Does he even go to church? Quoting Bible wrongly
Jesus was not rich and Jesus did not preach riches. You don't know what you are saying because YOU DON'T KNOW..
@ Dr Stephen your Mum paid tithe of 4k plus till she died, you didn’t have 800 Naira to take her to the hospital.
Adopt sense
@@MrDavid326 adopt one for yourself first.
I just remembered Cecilia Ibru was a "dangerous" tither and giver. She was a force to recon with in the banking industry some years back. She is currently in her village languishing.
Ibru in a village. Not possible.
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This man needs to go and study the Bible.
The man sounds very corny.. He sounds so much like a scammer
This dude is a liar. Oyedepo admitted that he is collecting salary. He came here to tell us lies that Oyedepo ain’t getting paid by the church. This is a lie from the devil.
Can you please provide the video as evidence? Thank you
The man has very good points but he needs to understand that tithe is done with, cheerful giving is good. And our pastors should be transparent about how they spend tge church money..
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Stupid discussion
#brainwashed