I agree that it's pretty cool! And somewhat liberating to not have to deal with all kinds of handicap rating rules - just bring the fastest boat possible!!!
Sort of the same thing going on with masthead sloops vs fractionals back in the days that I raced. During the day the fractional rig boats had the advantage because they could see the trim better but at night the mastheads ruled. What I really miss about racing is that welcome you get at the finish and the party.
Interesting, I never thought about that with masthead boats! My last boat had a masthead rig and we won lots of races with our performance at night. Current boat is fractional and we don’t do quite as well at night, at least not yet!
Maybe! They aren’t too common around here so I’m not too familiar with their sailing characteristics. I understand they are good for reaching in a breeze, but any idea how they are upwind in light air?
The boat is called “Mama Tried” and was Pete Melvin’s personal custom boat. More on the store here: www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2014/05/04/pete-melvin-mama-tried-ruled-newport-ensenada-race/
I think it's more an issue of maneuverability in tricky situations without a motor. For example sailing through Seymour Narrows is dodgy at the best of times, most boats motor through! That said, Team Tritium was willing to chance it with John Sangmeister's modified ORMA 60 in 2016 (r2ak.com/2016-teams/team-tritium-racing/) but they hit something on the delivery trip and had to turn back. Instead they showed up with F32 SXRC Taniwha/Jailbreak, but didn't finish with that either, I think because somebody's wife was pregnant and due to give birth, or something like that.
@@SailingTipsCa Okay, never have seen the route used, but I believe it's the inner passage. If so, perhaps a Formula 40 with Randy Smyth's hybrid wing would be a good choice. It may be possible to power the cat using wind from greater angles without having to tack.
@@rickemmet1104 That might work! The current record holder is a Marstrom 32 and a Formula 40 with a wing would give it a good run for its money. That would be a wild ride!
Yes those are definitely helpful! Interestingly most of the log damage has been to other parts of the boats such as bows and structural bulkheads, although some boards and rudders have definitely been broken!
This is the best race ever!! And there is so much to learn from people trying all the different types of boats and propulsion systems.
I agree that it's pretty cool! And somewhat liberating to not have to deal with all kinds of handicap rating rules - just bring the fastest boat possible!!!
enjoyed the brief analytical overview of several types of boats
Glad you liked it! Having owned and raced both monohulls and multihulls I think it’s quite interesting too!
Sort of the same thing going on with masthead sloops vs fractionals back in the days that I raced. During the day the fractional rig boats had the advantage because they could see the trim better but at night the mastheads ruled. What I really miss about racing is that welcome you get at the finish and the party.
Interesting, I never thought about that with masthead boats! My last boat had a masthead rig and we won lots of races with our performance at night. Current boat is fractional and we don’t do quite as well at night, at least not yet!
Great race, good boats & crew. Enjoy our beautiful ocean planet. # HeroesAtSea.
Yes we’re very lucky to have access to such beautiful places!!!
I think a mini transat boat might do well, they are small and fast but built to be able to carry the weight
Maybe! They aren’t too common around here so I’m not too familiar with their sailing characteristics. I understand they are good for reaching in a breeze, but any idea how they are upwind in light air?
What was the brand of boat the burd team sailed
The boat is called “Mama Tried” and was Pete Melvin’s personal custom boat. More on the store here: www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2014/05/04/pete-melvin-mama-tried-ruled-newport-ensenada-race/
Could they change the route to give more advantages to the rowers.
They could probably make the sailing yachts go further but one of the appeals to this race is also the limited rule set!
It's surprising that there aren't teams using 40 or 50 foot multihulls. Is this too difficult when the wind dies down?
I think it's more an issue of maneuverability in tricky situations without a motor. For example sailing through Seymour Narrows is dodgy at the best of times, most boats motor through! That said, Team Tritium was willing to chance it with John Sangmeister's modified ORMA 60 in 2016 (r2ak.com/2016-teams/team-tritium-racing/) but they hit something on the delivery trip and had to turn back. Instead they showed up with F32 SXRC Taniwha/Jailbreak, but didn't finish with that either, I think because somebody's wife was pregnant and due to give birth, or something like that.
@@SailingTipsCa Okay, never have seen the route used, but I believe it's the inner passage. If so, perhaps a Formula 40 with Randy Smyth's hybrid wing would be a good choice. It may be possible to power the cat using wind from greater angles without having to tack.
@@rickemmet1104 That might work! The current record holder is a Marstrom 32 and a Formula 40 with a wing would give it a good run for its money. That would be a wild ride!
@@SailingTipsCa You'll have to sign up for the team and do a video about the race from the F-40.
@@rickemmet1104 I think doing this race in an F-40 would be exciting but also a bit scary given how remote much of the course is!
I wonder when foiling tech might make its way into this competition???
Already here in some ways: Malolo/Dragon has lifting foils in each ama! Maybe others too!
logs were mentioned & might be in abundance in west coast waters, ready to sever one or more foils unexpectedly at any time, especially at night...
No1 seems to be kick up boards and rudders.
Yes those are definitely helpful! Interestingly most of the log damage has been to other parts of the boats such as bows and structural bulkheads, although some boards and rudders have definitely been broken!