How can these women be so desperate to marry someone when hes clearly not over his relationship with someone else. At this point he has done this so many times i lost count. You would think they will learn that hes only in love with himself
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND how Steffy can sleep with his father and STILL think he would WANT to be with her. Steffy needs to stop using the baby to guilt Liam into coming back to her.
Well that is typical steffy😁😁😁😁always wanting others used up things🤣🤣🤣then she gave Hope her ring but little did she know Hope don't want her one and that she wants her own one.
Whether u agree with Bills tactics or not, he was right. Even if he hadn't manipulated the situation, even if Hope hadn't been pregnant, eventually, he would have hooked up with Hope. And look where we are currently. Staying together in a Toxic relationship, just for the sake of the kids, never works out in the long run & the kids suffer the most! 🤨
Bill's been repressing these feelings for Steffy for years. It's creepy, but it's been a long time coming. He manipulated Liam to be with Steffy so he could get some fulfillment by seeing his son get what he wants. Now he's just going for it. Fortunately, Steffy knows better and is just not gonna take it. This is why I really hope they give Steffy a new guy who ISN'T a Spencer. She needs to get away from any of Bill's relation so she can fully be free of him.
@@itsme4083 What a stupid question Steffy was on the show long before the stupid Spencer bastards came to town/on the show. Marcus, Rick , Oliver, Owen. Now The Spencer are the only game in town you either date a Forrester man or a Spencer man. They are literally the only -rich- guys on the show.
Bill didn't manipulate shit. Liam was drooling over Steffy's longuire video long before Bill said shit at first Bill discourage Liam into being with Steffy but realized he couldn't do shit so he decided to support them . At first Bill told Liam that steffy wanted him as payback( for the dumping) but finally relented when he saw that Steffy truly had genuine feeling for Liam that's when Bill ego deflated until Brooke.
Bill doesn't repress shit. Katie was with Wyatt & Thorne. And Brooke ended her marriage to Bill. That's when Bill realized since it didn't work out with his Logan bimbos he would just go back and try to claim his son's wife. You notice Bill didn't try to pursue her until AFTER Brooke dumped his ass.
Why didn't Steffi just use her head and bring Liam with her to sign the papers for the house why would she get herself in that situation after what happened with bill the 1st time real stupid
@@apetnamedsteve4406 If you haven't seen already, that man is very devious. He would have found another way to get his job done, he always does. Just like when he went to steffy's house to get a picture of his off the wall, then he showed the picture to his sons and bragged about how he had been there as if she wanted him there. And he knew she didnt want him there
And Liam is happy with Hope till this day. He should have stayed with his first love in the first place. I'm so glad he's matured and learned, I just hope he keeps it up.
He ran to steffy every chance he got. Hope and Liam never believed or trusted each other, that's why it didn't work out. He didn't trust steffy either and Liam was always looking for reasons to run to the other. Plus, he didn't always chose Hope. He followed steffy to Paris to get her to come back even after hope threatened to not wait for him - and he went anyway. He also begged steffy not to go to Paris, despite Hope begging him to leave Steffy. So, he didn't always chose Hope. Why you want hope with Liam is beyond me, especially after he pursued steffy while he was married to hope and he tried to sabotage her relationship with Finn. He even admitted to hope he was still in love with steffy. Liam wanted them both - and he loved the one he was with at that time the most. He has told both of them " you're the love of my life". Liam is a joke, but he's Hope's joke now
@Stepbystepstuff84 steffy didn't always wedge herself in. She even pushed Liam and hope together more than once and they still couldn't make it work. Liam and Hope's issues were because Liam and Hope and stupid - not because of steffy. And hope kept penalizing Liam and playing head games with him.
I also like the way Bill is telling her the truth about being 2nd place. How can someone think a relationship will last when u sleep with your husband Father. Something like that will never go away.
That’s what Hopes relationship has been based on from day one. Using her family to convince Liam to be with her. Her mother had to convince her to sleep with Liam.
Steffy is a woman who acts on her own as if she has extra power over others and that is why she is in this mess. For ex. she maintains a separate relationship with Bill and she doesn't realize that she shouldn't. And she doesn't even get it! She is in fact disrespectful to her marriage even when she is not cheating on Liam.
He does love Hope. He loves Steffy too. Yes, had Steffy not interfered and manipulated, but if he had no feelings for Steffy, it wouldn't have mattered.
He didn't chose steffy,he chose trying to live under one roof for his daughter's sake.he chose his daughter but you think he will look at steffy the same like before?hell no.
People saying she’s using the baby to guilt Liam is absurd. She’s fighting keep her family together. If this is considered using the baby then Hope did the same thing when she got pregnant and Liam was trying to figure out who he wanted to be with
She does lie though. Hope has been lying to Liam all along She's sneaky too. She tried using her brother to trick steffy into signing annulment papers. She told Liam steffy was only using the baby to get him to marry her ( at Brooke's surprise wedding) then turned around and accused steffy of hiding stuff from him and said she would have told him right away ( which is it hope?? It can't be both ways). Hope is constantly telling Liam what she THINKS steffy's intentions are as of Hope had factual background when dhe did not have any Hope promised to sleep with Thomas if he signed over custody, then hope acted like the victim and she never told anyone except her mother whT she did Hope schemed and lied to steal a child from a father Hope left Thomas for dead after shoving him into acid water - and she never admitted to any of it, so how is she honest? Oh yeah, and there's this too.. hope telling her pre-teen fans to practice abstinence and about moral codes and values, while she's sleeping with a married man. Then she can't handle it when she gets caught and called out on it, so she starts popping pills - and lying about that. So, how exactly is she an honest person?
Yes that makes sense. Who gives a f*** about family or just marriage if u can divorce twice a year? Correct?! Why should they make 1. decision if there's money for 30.? It would be childish but let's call it trendy.
He's tried of drama Queen Steffy and Drama Queen Taylor. And knows Hope and Brooke aren't as dramatic as others claim unless others are purposely causing the drama in their lives.
The only thing that isn’t to blame for is the need to be alone, it’s typical, it’s natural , it’s imprinted in every human being, there is nothing wrong with that, what went down from the second she opened the door to her father in law is completely and totally her fault, she’s taking responsibility for the wrong things.
The writers milked this story for 2,3,4 seasons or more. The truth is Bill and Steffy should jave been together 10 years prior to all this drama when katie had her little meltdown. This back and forth with the son is ridiculous. I don't know how these actors keep a straight face reading these storylines..
@@nataliearreola6361 Actually Hope was really supportive at first and even got Liam to go to the ultrasound. She only stopped supporting Liam and Steffy reuniting when Liam drove himself crazy to the point that he thought he had shot his own dad. Because of the hurt he was feeling from his wife and his father sleeping together. And it's like Liam said to Hope, when she first found out, that is was so easy for Steffy to turn to Bill and so quick, without hesitation. And somehow people blame Hope for the downfall of Steffy and Liam's marriage, when really the blame should go to Steffy, but even more so to Dollar Bill Spencer, that pompous, egotistical asshole!...
This proposal from Liam was so cuuuute ◕‿◕ 😍 team hope forever Go away steffy’s lovers SpoilerAlert: Im kidding i’m just impersonating Hope’s fan 🫢🫢 This is kinda disgusting 😶🌫️
Do they ever lock their door. Why do she keep letting Bill come instead of telling him to go away and slam the door on him Who will sleep with their Father in law and think your husband won't have a problem.
I thought the love of this heinous man was Brooke... Brooke is lucky now out of his evil hands and unlucky Steffy although I don't have any sympathy for her either...
Lima and Hope stupid there are sleeping together so two wrong does that make it right and Bill was after Stephanie long time ago and Stephanie and Lima make a better couple then Hope Lima and Hope just cry😢 all the time Stephanie better with out Lima
Hope is the last one to levture about anything? you have a whole father some thing is kind of creepy but then again so it was being with two brothers back back . Hope is no angel . She’s the one that run off with Wyatt a few minutes after she thought Liam stood her up… actually she wasn’t even with Liam when she left town ,and now all of a sudden she comes back and wants to reclaim Liam. and while I admit, she did try to befriend Steffy and support her, it didn’t last very long. Nor did Brooke support that goes out the window as well. But she’s not wasting any time.She says he deserves better. And I’m sure she means herself of course . If Liam deserves better than what about Steffy and Kelly, when Liam was backstage with Hope at the fashion show impregnating her. I’m gonna stop rambling. It’s a little after five in the morning and I have not been able to sleep so I tend to ramble more than normal. lol
Liam when or you going ave a backbone make your decision on what you know or your gut feeling not on what others tell you. Hope you just like your mum and Bill when or you going stop manipulate people life
People saying she’s using the baby to guilt Liam is absurd. She’s fighting keep her family together. If this is considered using the baby then Hope did the same thing when she got pregnant and Liam was trying to figure out who he wanted to be with
Justin putting lipstick on and kissing the pillow💋 Final nail in the coffin! I couldn’t stop laughing at Bill’s comment!😂
Liam talk about love and
Hope love 💝💝💝💝💝❤❤❤
How can these women be so desperate to marry someone when hes clearly not over his relationship with someone else. At this point he has done this so many times i lost count. You would think they will learn that hes only in love with himself
It's hilarious hearing Liam talk about love and commitment when he bounced from one woman to another in less than half an hour.
Exactly
Haha, l know right
Flop flip Liam! Waffle boy
And steffy have her and bill to thank for that🤣🤣🤣
@@bluesky9739 Liam's lack of integrity is neither Steffy's nor Bill's fault.🤷
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND how Steffy can sleep with his father and STILL think he would WANT to be with her. Steffy needs to stop using the baby to guilt Liam into coming back to her.
OMG ! APSOLUTELY. !
Christina Bonvillian how is that hope... Hope didn't sleep with bill steffy did🙄🙄🙄stupid
@Danielle Magee Liam was going back to Steffy because she is pregnant.
that's right!!
Just like Hopeless used her unborn child to trap Liam
1 second Liam is going back to Steffy the next second he proposes to Hope lol!!
Just like Liam gave Steffy Hope's ring 5 seconds after Hope took it off then married Steffy the next day, that's Liam for you.
Liam is a waffle 🤣
Well that is typical steffy😁😁😁😁always wanting others used up things🤣🤣🤣then she gave Hope her ring but little did she know Hope don't want her one and that she wants her own one.
Liam regurgitating Hope's words here .... 🙄 so happy steffy finally walked away from that toxic environment
She push herself up to liam if u guys watch all de episodes u will see is steffy coming in between hope n liam
Whether u agree with Bills tactics or not, he was right. Even if he hadn't manipulated the situation, even if Hope hadn't been pregnant, eventually, he would have hooked up with Hope. And look where we are currently. Staying together in a Toxic relationship, just for the sake of the kids, never works out in the long run & the kids suffer the most! 🤨
@M A what are you even talking about if you get that mad over a fictional show you shouldn't be watching
Bill's been repressing these feelings for Steffy for years. It's creepy, but it's been a long time coming. He manipulated Liam to be with Steffy so he could get some fulfillment by seeing his son get what he wants. Now he's just going for it. Fortunately, Steffy knows better and is just not gonna take it. This is why I really hope they give Steffy a new guy who ISN'T a Spencer. She needs to get away from any of Bill's relation so she can fully be free of him.
has steffy ever had a relationship other than a spencer?
@@itsme4083
What a stupid question Steffy was on the show long before the stupid Spencer bastards came to town/on the show. Marcus, Rick , Oliver, Owen. Now The Spencer are the only game in town you either date a Forrester man or a Spencer man. They are literally the only -rich- guys on the show.
Bill didn't manipulate shit. Liam was drooling over Steffy's longuire video long before Bill said shit at first Bill discourage Liam into being with Steffy but realized he couldn't do shit so he decided to support them . At first Bill told Liam that steffy wanted him as payback( for the dumping) but finally relented when he saw that Steffy truly had genuine feeling for Liam that's when Bill ego deflated until Brooke.
Bill doesn't repress shit. Katie was with Wyatt & Thorne. And Brooke ended her marriage to Bill. That's when Bill realized since it didn't work out with his Logan bimbos he would just go back and try to claim his son's wife. You notice Bill didn't try to pursue her until AFTER Brooke dumped his ass.
@@folikusgu2972 I really believe that Bill switched the paternity test and he is just trying to be with Steffy because he know that the baby is his.
I agree with you Juanita Hayes 300 per_cent. A baby will not keep a relationship together.
Maybe Steffi she stop letting bill in her house anytime he wants
She didn't let him in. He just came in, like everybody does - Liam, Hope, Brooke - they all just come in.
That is so true everyone just walks in they don’t even knock.
Why didn't Steffi just use her head and bring Liam with her to sign the papers for the house why would she get herself in that situation after what happened with bill the 1st time real stupid
Bill still would have found a way to manipulate.
@@beanibabi8425 how would he do that in front of Liam?
@@apetnamedsteve4406 If you haven't seen already, that man is very devious. He would have found another way to get his job done, he always does. Just like when he went to steffy's house to get a picture of his off the wall, then he showed the picture to his sons and bragged about how he had been there as if she wanted him there. And he knew she didnt want him there
And Liam is happy with Hope till this day. He should have stayed with his first love in the first place. I'm so glad he's matured and learned, I just hope he keeps it up.
Exactly. He always wanted to be with Hope. He chose her time and time again.
He ran to steffy every chance he got. Hope and Liam never believed or trusted each other, that's why it didn't work out. He didn't trust steffy either and Liam was always looking for reasons to run to the other. Plus, he didn't always chose Hope. He followed steffy to Paris to get her to come back even after hope threatened to not wait for him - and he went anyway. He also begged steffy not to go to Paris, despite Hope begging him to leave Steffy. So, he didn't always chose Hope. Why you want hope with Liam is beyond me, especially after he pursued steffy while he was married to hope and he tried to sabotage her relationship with Finn. He even admitted to hope he was still in love with steffy. Liam wanted them both - and he loved the one he was with at that time the most. He has told both of them " you're the love of my life". Liam is a joke, but he's Hope's joke now
Only reason he doesn’t chase Steffy anymore is because Finn will kick that ass!
@@DAVegas-yc8xq no Steffy just wedged herself in
@Stepbystepstuff84 steffy didn't always wedge herself in. She even pushed Liam and hope together more than once and they still couldn't make it work. Liam and Hope's issues were because Liam and Hope and stupid - not because of steffy. And hope kept penalizing Liam and playing head games with him.
Wow so liam attempts to be back with steffy it fails, so he runs back to propose to hope as a second option lol.
And of course hope with her dumb self rather be a second choice
Liam sounds like ridge back in the days.
I also like the way Bill is telling her the truth about being 2nd place. How can someone think a relationship will last when u sleep with your husband Father. Something like that will never go away.
Classic Steffy... Wanting others to help her to keep Liam by her side. Why would her ex husband work as her advocate?
That’s what Hopes relationship has been based on from day one. Using her family to convince Liam to be with her. Her mother had to convince her to sleep with Liam.
Right?? She didn't treat Wyatt good at all. Why would he help her??
Hope always used her mother and her brother to get Liam 😅
Yes bill said it rite steffy is always 2 place n hope will always be his 1 love n only he like her for sex not love
In current episodes Liam trying to break up Steffy and Finn marriage. He want another chance with her
Steffy is a woman who acts on her own as if she has extra power over others and that is why she is in this mess. For ex. she maintains a separate relationship with Bill and she doesn't realize that she shouldn't. And she doesn't even get it! She is in fact disrespectful to her marriage even when she is not cheating on Liam.
NO. HE DID,NT. BOUNCE. FROM. FROM. STEFFY 2. HOPE. HE ALWAYS. LOVED HOPE. UNTIL STEFFY. INTERFEARED. IN THEIR. RELATIONSHIP
He does love Hope. He loves Steffy too. Yes, had Steffy not interfered and manipulated, but if he had no feelings for Steffy, it wouldn't have mattered.
It wouldn't have mattered if she wasn't throwing the one thing some men can't resist even tho they're married or not.her body,sex.
Hope how soon you forget that Liam chose Steffy over you just a few hours ago, Liam still loves Steffy.
He didn't chose steffy,he chose trying to live under one roof for his daughter's sake.he chose his daughter but you think he will look at steffy the same like before?hell no.
People saying she’s using the baby to guilt Liam is absurd. She’s fighting keep her family together.
If this is considered using the baby then Hope did the same thing when she got pregnant and Liam was trying to figure out who he wanted to be with
it was Hope's choice when she married Wyatt and got pregnant
quinns
No,it was all quinn's fault.lying,scheming and manipulating Hope & Liam just like bill & steffy.
He should stay with hope 🙂 she don't cheat or lie they honestly fit together
@Danielle Magee exactly. Has everyone forgotten that hope had a chance to be with liam and ran off to marry his brother
@@beanibabi8425 didnt liam get to be with hope but married steffy right in front of her while she was trapped
She does lie though. Hope has been lying to Liam all along
She's sneaky too. She tried using her brother to trick steffy into signing annulment papers.
She told Liam steffy was only using the baby to get him to marry her ( at Brooke's surprise wedding) then turned around and accused steffy of hiding stuff from him and said she would have told him right away ( which is it hope?? It can't be both ways).
Hope is constantly telling Liam what she THINKS steffy's intentions are as of Hope had factual background when dhe did not have any
Hope promised to sleep with Thomas if he signed over custody, then hope acted like the victim and she never told anyone except her mother whT she did
Hope schemed and lied to steal a child from a father
Hope left Thomas for dead after shoving him into acid water - and she never admitted to any of it, so how is she honest?
Oh yeah, and there's this too.. hope telling her pre-teen fans to practice abstinence and about moral codes and values, while she's sleeping with a married man. Then she can't handle it when she gets caught and called out on it, so she starts popping pills - and lying about that. So, how exactly is she an honest person?
@@krishasharma3795 hope only wanted Liam back once she realized he was moving on with steffy.
Yes thanks to steffy and bill scheming,manipulating and lying.
liam is tired of all of this
YES. HE IS I. CAN,T BLAME. HIM I. WOULD,NT. KEEP. SECRETS FROM. NY HUSBAND. THAT,S. WRONG
He's tired of all of her cha, cha, cha.
#Lope Yes Yes Yez
Wait liam still driving the car that bill money bought, he should give it back
Yea Steffy you’re so in love with Liam you look at Bill’s lips like you’re craving them
& THAT,S. THE. TRUTH. SHE. CANNOT. STAY AWAY FROM. BILL
@@mariejordan2369 she's stayed away from Bill ever since she decided to be her own woman, what are you talking about? 😅
Nah, she's looking at him wondering how he can lie so easily. She hasn't looked at Bill with last si ce she was 20
Yes he is but he should stay with hope BC she is my favorite actress
Yes that makes sense. Who gives a f*** about family or just marriage if u can divorce twice a year? Correct?! Why should they make 1. decision if there's money for 30.? It would be childish but let's call it trendy.
@Dannielle Berry Amen to that...
He's tried of drama Queen Steffy and Drama Queen Taylor. And knows Hope and Brooke aren't as dramatic as others claim unless others are purposely causing the drama in their lives.
No one ever get Liam a chance to breathe. Now, no more Lope, but please put them together again; they deserve each other Hope thirsty for Liam
At this point I really don't care what happens between liam and hope, I just wish Steffy will find her happiness
I can't stand Hope!
And now she Hope will take full advantage.
The only thing that isn’t to blame for is the need to be alone, it’s typical, it’s natural , it’s imprinted in every human being, there is nothing wrong with that, what went down from the second she opened the door to her father in law is completely and totally her fault, she’s taking responsibility for the wrong things.
omg Liam stahp, why do you always propose to someone when a girl hurts your feelings? how many times??
The writers milked this story for 2,3,4 seasons or more. The truth is Bill and Steffy should jave been together 10 years prior to all this drama when katie had her little meltdown. This back and forth with the son is ridiculous. I don't know how these actors keep a straight face reading these storylines..
Why is Hope lying she wanted this marriage to end from the beginning.
Just call Liam waffle boy !
Hope you brack up seffy
even when Liam knew the truth and Hope still in his ear
She didn't care about Kelly's family then. It was all me first.😒
@@nataliearreola6361 Actually Hope was really supportive at first and even got Liam to go to the ultrasound. She only stopped supporting Liam and Steffy reuniting when Liam drove himself crazy to the point that he thought he had shot his own dad. Because of the hurt he was feeling from his wife and his father sleeping together. And it's like Liam said to Hope, when she first found out, that is was so easy for Steffy to turn to Bill and so quick, without hesitation. And somehow people blame Hope for the downfall of Steffy and Liam's marriage, when really the blame should go to Steffy, but even more so to Dollar Bill Spencer, that pompous, egotistical asshole!...
Even though it was innocent Steffy should have known better than to even come anywhere near bill
This proposal from Liam was so cuuuute ◕‿◕ 😍 team hope forever
Go away steffy’s lovers
SpoilerAlert: Im kidding i’m just impersonating Hope’s fan 🫢🫢
This is kinda disgusting 😶🌫️
Lima you should not be able to say anything about what you did to your dad
Do they ever lock their door. Why do she keep letting Bill come instead
of telling him to go away
and slam the door on him
Who will sleep with their Father in law and think your husband won't have a problem.
What a turn of events. Steffy should ditch Bill, she can do better than both of these Spencers.
I thought the love of this heinous man was Brooke... Brooke is lucky now out of his evil hands and unlucky Steffy although I don't have any sympathy for her either...
Most of the guys on the show tell the woman he is with that she's the love of his life"
Liam nothing happened between stephy and bill it's a lie
Ridge and Steffy are both sick
Eish this is a lousy proposal
Beautiful 7831 sottotitoli italiani
Lima and Hope stupid there are sleeping together so two wrong does that make it right and Bill was after Stephanie long time ago and Stephanie and Lima make a better couple then Hope Lima and Hope just cry😢 all the time Stephanie better with out Lima
i hate hope
Me too
Me too!
Hope is the last one to levture about anything? you have a whole father some thing is kind of creepy but then again so it was being with two brothers back back . Hope is no angel . She’s the one that run off with Wyatt a few minutes after she thought Liam stood her up… actually she wasn’t even with Liam when she left town ,and now all of a sudden she comes back and wants to reclaim Liam. and while I admit, she did try to befriend Steffy and support her, it didn’t last very long. Nor did Brooke support that goes out the window as well. But she’s not wasting any time.She says he deserves better. And I’m sure she means herself of course . If Liam deserves better than what about Steffy and Kelly, when Liam was backstage with Hope at the fashion show impregnating her. I’m gonna stop rambling. It’s a little after five in the morning and I have not been able to sleep so I tend to ramble more than normal. lol
I agree with u
That's right Liam let them (Bill and Steffy who were a couple) go and stay with Hope, yes where you belong.
Bill and steffy were never a couple
Who’s seeing who now
Hope the rebound girl
He is saying I need a rebound 🤦🏽♀️
Steffy is his constant rebound!
And now she has dropped the flipper for a real man
Rebound marriage..
I miss Kim Matula as Hope.
Liam when or you going ave a backbone make your decision on what you know or your gut feeling not on what others tell you. Hope you just like your mum and Bill when or you going stop manipulate people life
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Man Bill was really gross here. So disgusting. And this is coming from a Bill fan but boy he really was gross
People saying she’s using the baby to guilt Liam is absurd. She’s fighting keep her family together.
If this is considered using the baby then Hope did the same thing when she got pregnant and Liam was trying to figure out who he wanted to be with