Information Leak From Inside Chanel Bag Factory - Worker's Conditions Allegedly Worse than Expected!

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  • Опубликовано: 12 апр 2023
  • Article about Luxury leather factory in France and workers and ex workers talking about their working conditions:
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  • @Emma-qh1ch
    @Emma-qh1ch Год назад +90

    I guess I’m just naive. I thought luxury houses had their own factories and the artisans were treated with respect. This is terrible. Very eye opening and should make us all think hard about where our hard earned money is allocated.

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +2

      Well said 🙏🏻🌅💖

    • @flohough1870
      @flohough1870 Год назад +5

      Me as well. That's how it used to be but now greed and mass production are the name of the game. I'm done.

    • @belinajewel
      @belinajewel Год назад +2

      Remember that this creator emphasizes that this is not a proven fact. I have a friend that used to work for Chanel in one of their factories in Italy, she said they were offered a special discount, good salary and she longed back for many years after leaving Italy. So I think this could be workers from another factory than she worked in or for a counterfeit factory? Well, anyway, it’s always sad when ppl don’t get fair treatment and fair trade.

    • @Jp22573
      @Jp22573 Год назад +6

      Since their prices are so high, why are these factories in China?

    • @Jp22573
      @Jp22573 Год назад

      I hear they are being mass produced in China!

  • @denysk.2866
    @denysk.2866 Год назад +68

    I have a friend here in Paris who worked at the packing line of Chanel bags and her stories were horrifying. I personally had a short experience in Chanel Haute Couture and also I was shocked

    • @lonnylegeam
      @lonnylegeam Год назад +15

      Please tell us your stories .

  • @totesgene
    @totesgene Год назад +37

    This was an interesting video. When people talk about the fake industry and all the harm it supposedly does I often wonder if they know how the brands themselves operate and treat there employees. I mean Hermes pays their artisans 1,700 Euros a month. No wonder these artisans move to the fake industry.

    • @flohough1870
      @flohough1870 Год назад +10

      Bingo. It seems as though none of these companies are exempt from shady practices.

    • @totesgene
      @totesgene Год назад +6

      @@flohough1870 exactly. They are businesses and the less they pay their employees the more money they make. Chanel is apparently taking away commissions from their employees.

  • @pollys6192
    @pollys6192 Год назад +82

    My question after watching you today and Romina yesterday is... What's the difference now between Chanel or Fendi... and the likes of Zara, H&M and all of the other fast fashion brands? Where is the line now? their politics of treating workers is the same...

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +8

      Hi Polly, I filmed this video last Saturday in my longer livestream. Here is the link to the livestream where more information was shared about this situation and about other practices and brands too: ruclips.net/user/liveTI6rWb1Fq5Y?feature=share

    • @ririririPXN
      @ririririPXN Год назад +6

      I suppose they are not using children and workers in death trap buildings in Bangladesh... but if we think about what the profit is, it is ridiculous... then again luxury items for a business might not be as profitable as very cheap that are sold in bulk. Most Haute Couture houses make their money from sunglasses, perfumes, and cosmetics lines.

    • @pollys6192
      @pollys6192 Год назад +6

      @@ririririPXN The key word is "suppose" yeah. Let's hope for the best but this near slaverism was unthinkable of them until very recently and surprise, brutal capitalism practices in Europe, where workers are supposed to be protected (they're not)

    • @amattes1960
      @amattes1960 Год назад +9

      Hmm, no line. One rips off workers, the other rips off both the workers and the customers!

  • @lookingforluxe-cd7il
    @lookingforluxe-cd7il Год назад +14

    I have long suspected that the counterfeit bags were also made by the original brand holders. It makes total sense.

    • @esterdrass4964
      @esterdrass4964 6 месяцев назад +3

      I agree. In fact, I personally think the place that makes the actual bag, also makes the fake. I mean, who knows better how the bag is made? I don't own a real or a fake, but I hear that the fakes are very well made, and, in some cases, I have heard that they can be better quality. None of it makes sense.

  • @annajovanoski4145
    @annajovanoski4145 Год назад +71

    Totally disgusting….we as the consumer would like to think that we pay soooo much money for a bag, for quality, proper work regulations etc. These poor people are getting treated probably no better then the people that are making fakes..So way do we judge the fakes? At least we aren’t paying $15,000 for a fake bag 😢 totally disillusioned 😢 I’m actually getting so sick off hearing these things. I worked in high end retail for 34 years and it definitely wasn’t fun. I did long hours for pretty crappy wages.. so unfortunately this doesn’t surprise me. Thank you Dacob❤ How am I going to feel next time I carry my LV or CC….pretty sad 😞

    • @Coastpsych_fi99
      @Coastpsych_fi99 Год назад +6

      Buy neither and give your money to brands that support healthy environments.

    • @katherinechase3674
      @katherinechase3674 Год назад

      @@Coastpsych_fi99 any examples?

    • @katherinechase3674
      @katherinechase3674 Год назад +2

      Yes, early on as a teen I worked retail a couple of times & bailed. Long hours on your feet, no bonuses, agro customers, not a quick way up the ladder- miserable, no thanks!

  • @rajjie100
    @rajjie100 Год назад +8

    I was a former furniture and home décor buyer, I would go to the major furniture showrooms in Europe then took a job where I had to then go to factories in China, India and Indonesia that supply these showrooms. We bought from the same manufacturers as many of the high end furniture retailers. Those factories were deplorable. Some were like prisons. Its all the same BS and taking advantage of cheap labor then selling retail for huge mark up.

  • @richardmacleod5253
    @richardmacleod5253 Год назад +71

    Its not just Chanel. Many major brands have been under fire for poor working conditions.
    Prada, Ferragamo, Fendi and all the LVMH brands have been called out for vulnerable exploitation in textile factories.
    The Kerring Brands(Balanciaga ect), Lauren, Burberry have maintained ethical supply chains and good working conditions.

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +3

      I mention Fendi in this video too. 💖

    • @walideg5304
      @walideg5304 Год назад +5

      Not Hermès. They respect their artisans.

    • @mollypapazian4423
      @mollypapazian4423 Год назад +4

      ​@Zouzou G - Amazigh Actually, they too are underpaid.

    • @walideg5304
      @walideg5304 Год назад +7

      @@mollypapazian4423 they are paid more than the average.
      In France net salaries are pretty low because it includes social security for health, retirement plan, accidents, then the additional healthcare plan.
      They have huge bonuses. I know, I have worked for Hermès, I’m not saying it’s perfect but it’s far better than Chanel for instance, and I know some people who still work at Chanel.

    • @richardmacleod5253
      @richardmacleod5253 Год назад +4

      @@mollypapazian4423 Its why the brands make so much money, is by under paying people and selling at a high price.

  • @christopherbrunson1232
    @christopherbrunson1232 Год назад +63

    Selective outrage, because even though people know this NONE OF YOU ARE GOING TO STOP SUPPORTING THE HOUSE OF CHANEL. $10,000 bags and workers in deplorable conditions. This whole system of “media” is bull. People will burn one fashion house and make excuses for the next. 😒 I’m also guilty of this

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +14

      Talking about this can help us do better if we want to do better. I have provided the links to several articles in the description box so who wishes to read more, they can. 💖

    • @tawiwicury
      @tawiwicury Год назад +14

      Exactly, I was actually laughing at how these fashion houses like to have selective outrage over the replica/counterfeit industries saying they are pushing organized crime blah blah blah. And yet they also have unsavory practices as well when it comes to forced/slave labor.
      Let's keep it real, let's not pretend about the moral outrage towards replicas, when they are doing the same thing. I will still buy my authentic designers and not attach convenient morality to it ...

    • @Rachelleluluful
      @Rachelleluluful Год назад +3

      @@tawiwicurythe only difference is buying counterfeit goods is illegal but many of these luxury houses seem to have unsavory practices and work conditions and it’s really messed up and sad.

    • @KoriEmerson
      @KoriEmerson Год назад +7

      They aren't getting a penny from me.

  • @D-bow288
    @D-bow288 Год назад +12

    There is so little about Chanel that is impressive any longer 😢

  • @gharapike2172
    @gharapike2172 Год назад +7

    Honestly it’s sad that such a luxury, and wealthy brand , treat their employees like slaves and don’t pay them that well plus they have to work in not so well conditions… it’s sad because without those hardworking people, there’s no bags… and to pay for such bad quality bags, I prefer to support another brand that deserves the recognition and the value !

  • @garssympa500
    @garssympa500 Год назад +8

    Congratulations Dacob! This has been your best video ever (!)... well researched, lucid and passionate. And you are so right about piece work... you enslave the worker who will never be able to start their own company and perhaps make a competitive product? How can you if you only know 5% of the process! And, of course, piece work is the logical start to robotics. It won't be long.

  • @thatgirl1134
    @thatgirl1134 Год назад +25

    Whilst this is very disappointing I can’t say I’m surprised. Sadly it’s not only Chanel that guilty of horrible behaviour and treating their employees badly .. I can also confirm that Chinese sellers have access to the same leathers / tanneries and hardware as the authentic bags . Very often they compare the authentic vs replica and laugh about how bad the stitching on the authentic bag is … very interesting subject Dacob🙌

    • @darnisejennings9138
      @darnisejennings9138 5 месяцев назад

      Which is why many people don’t feel bad purchasing the AAA Fakes. It’s a shame they are paid so low and the bags retail upwards of 10k.

  • @teodorabogdanova197
    @teodorabogdanova197 Год назад +6

    I am not surprised at all! A few years back I watched a documentary about from where the big fashion houses source their leathers. The work conditions in the factories where awful, the conditions in which the animal lived - awful. I remember they showed how the bunnies, used to make some obviously famous I think Max Mara coat, lived in so small cadges that they could not move, most of them were ill. It was so disturbing and an eye opener for me.
    After the journalist reached some of the big name brands for comment they just say that they didn't know about the conditions and that from now on they will be more careful from where they buy their leathers. Come on, nobody believes you! All they care is the profit.
    Luxury is not only to make beautiful peace but everything behind it has to be in higher standard - the moral, ethics etc.

  • @-MaryPoppins-
    @-MaryPoppins- Год назад +19

    My favorite part is where the factory manager (idk what his actual title is) admitted to everything and essentially called the workers weak for not wanting to slave away making cheap bags that cost thousands. How absolutely RIDICULOUS. I can’t imagine not having a sliver of shame for what they’ve done to those poor souls.

  • @666inmeyusha666
    @666inmeyusha666 Год назад +6

    Wow great work Jacob thankyou for shedding light on this exploitation.

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад

      Thank you Brogan 🙏🏻💖

  • @bellablow4287
    @bellablow4287 Год назад +1

    This was a brilliant video - Thank you - NOBODY has discussed this

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it. Thats what we do on my channel. We talk about what others do not find comfortable to talk about on their channels 😉💖

  • @stephaniec4766
    @stephaniec4766 Год назад +4

    Good on you for keeping it real here always 🙏

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +1

      Thank you Stephanie 🙏🏻💖

  • @howardshair3235
    @howardshair3235 Год назад

    Thank you for posting this. ❤

  • @NatashaEstrada
    @NatashaEstrada Год назад +56

    Tell me again how unethical fakes are? Because I'm having a hard time believing there is really any difference at this point. Bad working conditions all around. Only difference is the inference that fakes fund "bad things".

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +29

      I think the bigger question here is what is ethical at this point? And is there any ethics left in fashion in general?

    • @NatashaEstrada
      @NatashaEstrada Год назад +6

      @@SuperDacob Honestly there probably never was ethics in fashion in the way we consume it now.
      Maybe long before our time there was when you could get stuff made by a tailor/seamstress but even then there was exploitation. Think of the tale of the Tailor of Gloucester.
      I think I was probably happier with fashion when I couldn't afford it and used to sew it myself but now I have means I find it hard to find stuff that really is worthy of my dollars so far as quality goes.

    • @sooki82
      @sooki82 Год назад +13

      The factories that are making the fakes probably have better working conditions haha

    • @dianevioletta1408
      @dianevioletta1408 Год назад +9

      @@sooki82 and better quality!

    • @NatashaEstrada
      @NatashaEstrada Год назад +1

      @@sooki82 Certainly the distribution of proceeds in relationship to their contribution to making the product is probably more ethical and there are probably less middle men in the process.

  • @katcankan7129
    @katcankan7129 Год назад +3

    Wow this was most insightful, thank you💜. Part of the waking up process is questioning and not assuming as we once did...I knew once folks started digging around stuff would come to the surface on all brands...It really makes you think long & hard 😔

  • @chrislstahl4239
    @chrislstahl4239 Год назад +4

    I want to add that you really look fresh and healthy and glowy today, such nice look

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад

      Thank you very much Chrisl 🙏🏻💖

  • @JacobSmith-yh7yo
    @JacobSmith-yh7yo Год назад +2

    Okay this video is insane! Thanks Super Dacob!!!! Ps your makeup! You need to give us a rundown on every video beautiful ❤ woof

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад

      Thank you Jacob 🙏🏻💖

    • @goli4399
      @goli4399 Год назад

      You are good looking and have absolutely perfect flawless skin but I feel you look a lot better sans makeup. You have good sharp features hence very lucky. Au natural love it better!

    • @kyliewalker6647
      @kyliewalker6647 6 месяцев назад

      He should do makeup tutorials, he has real artistic flair!

  • @michellebelle4624
    @michellebelle4624 Год назад +2

    You’re so very informative and so easy on the eyes too Dacob❤

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +1

      Thank you MichElle Belle 🙏🏻💖 Too kind. 🌅💗🥰

    • @michellebelle4624
      @michellebelle4624 Год назад

      You replied😃OMG😁I’m going to screen shot this and send to my daughter in London 😃She also loves you❤️

    • @kyliewalker6647
      @kyliewalker6647 6 месяцев назад

      He is pretty cute, I love his big eyes, quirkiness and style.. he’s handsome and quite unique.

  • @debbieharry4452
    @debbieharry4452 Год назад +5

    Woooooow! Such an eye opener. The whole situation is very sad... in fact disgusting. Very Very shameful. Thank you for sharing.

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад

      Thank you Debbie 🙏🏻💖

  • @katerinajoan257
    @katerinajoan257 Год назад +1

    Really appreciating your opinions on these issues.

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +1

      Thank you Katerina 🙏🏻🥰

  • @user-jy6vp1zm9m
    @user-jy6vp1zm9m 5 месяцев назад

    Binge watching your videos! Thanks for the entertainment!

  • @JhelValencia
    @JhelValencia Год назад

    Made sense. It’s so sad. Thank you for sharing this. I love your soul ❤

  • @lx95020
    @lx95020 Год назад +10

    My question to your followers is the following: Would you buy a Chanel bag that is 100% perfect that doesn't have a Chanel logo on the outside or would they buy a slightly or an imperfect bag that shows a prominent Chanel logo? I'm curios what people think regarding quality vs branding.. Thanks of your video.

    • @SelfishxRomance
      @SelfishxRomance 10 месяцев назад +1

      I'd buy the quality & durable one without the logo, of course. It's the logic choice imo!!

  • @supercjh
    @supercjh Год назад +7

    I have a couple Chanel bags, but I stopped carrying them because if you live in Southern California like me if you go to the mall like South Coast Plaza in OC, Fashion valley in SD or Beverly Hills in BV, literally everyone is carrying Chanel, BV, YSL…etc. the luxury bags have become ubiquitous, it’s like everywhere you turn it’s everywhere! Yes, I own BV, CHANEL, YSL bags… etc. I bought them when I was younger and now I am older I look for leather bags from independent leather artisans, so called “quiet luxury”.

    • @MyHersheyBoy
      @MyHersheyBoy Год назад +2

      I just found out that the daughter of a former coworker of mine is making beautiful handcrafted (by her) leather bags and small leather goods. I think I’m going to order something from her instead of buying a name brand.

  • @walideg5304
    @walideg5304 Год назад +3

    SMIC is the minimal legal wage in France. It’s around 1300 € per month after tax.

  • @DieynabaNduwayo
    @DieynabaNduwayo 26 дней назад

    Thank you ,Thank you so much for making more highlight onto this subject. I recently watched a video regarding this type of process of leather making factory in Italy and let me tell you its sad. So bascily they hire a lot of senegalese put them on those factories with horrible conditions, no PPE or assurance, lay them off if they haave some tragic accidents and the process goes al along. But in the other hand, they hir Italians pay them the regular pay with better conditions, those guys orks 13 hours a day if they wanted to file a complaint they will have to travel 30 miles and yet their complains won't be even taken in seriously. The worst part is the office to take care of them are open only the times they work making them impossible to meet with them if so they will lose a day or their jobs. Sometimes, I wonder if even buying a real one worth it since the fake one also are made the same way, either or the money they get are not worthy. One of them lost their 3 joints and never got justice, its hard very hard tobe honest on luxury.

  • @betequeue6233
    @betequeue6233 Год назад +3

    SMIC is the French version of minimum wage, since 2018 it's 1 498,47 Euro per month with 35h per week (says Wikipedia). It's exploitation given the working conditions described and the fact the Chanel could easily pay more!

  • @Chunkyshoesuk
    @Chunkyshoesuk Год назад +17

    Sitting for hours on end in silence sounds horrific. Like torture. Sounds similar to solitary confinement but with people around to make it harder. The boredom must be insane. I suspect radio’s arnt allowed! Ive always wondered if the workers get made to sign nda’s before they start working at these places. I bet they’ll be some sacking now this has got out!
    I feel like the fast fashion factory brands are under the microscope but these lux brands go under the radar.
    Ive heard that a few times about real being sold as counterfeit as another means of revenue

  • @pupsalot1382
    @pupsalot1382 Год назад +5

    They only train people on one task because they believe it stops counterfeiting of bags. No one person knows how to properly do one bag, or has access to all components of a bag.

  • @JasonLuxLover
    @JasonLuxLover Год назад +1

    This explains a lot ! I ❤❤❤❤

  • @sidrissmd
    @sidrissmd Год назад

    Thank you very much for the expose. I have been listening to your Contant on RUclips for the past week. I find you very interesting and definitely have important information.
    Saying that I also feel that it seems to me that we are very naïve to believe that the factory worker is going to be making as much as the CEO of the company, specially in Europe, which has been a class society for centuries.
    One of the main reason I like your Contin today is because we have been doing exposes on worker abuse in developing countries for decades, it is time somebody discussed the working conditions of factory workers in the west.

  • @missb1097
    @missb1097 Год назад +3

    Thank you for speaking on this Dacob! What a sad state we are in when people are treated like this! Makes my heart hurt. And indeed no wonder why the bags are the way they are. I dreamed about a Chanel bag for so many years … I have many now and it doesn’t feel the same. I’m glad people are talking about this and again thank you for your candid conversations ❤🙏🫶

  • @stefandomonkos1059
    @stefandomonkos1059 Год назад +3

    SMIC is the minimum salary in France. It is an abbreviation of "Salaire minimum de croissance". In 2023, the hourly SMIC is 8.92 euros.

  • @premeyumlife443
    @premeyumlife443 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing this my love, shocking. 😔🙏🏼😘😘😘Sandy

  • @jessicalynnstrom
    @jessicalynnstrom Год назад +2

    Luxury Brands have NO EXCUSE to treat staff like that.

  • @christianvivendi-bs3xp
    @christianvivendi-bs3xp Год назад +1

    Love it❤

  • @rm6700
    @rm6700 Год назад +5

    The one task specialization is called “lean manufacturing” - and that is developed by Japanese car companies. It improves yield, speed and consistency but IMO, it removes the luxury aspect from the product - the magic, if you will. This is known as the Pégase system in LVMH, I believe.

    • @NatashaEstrada
      @NatashaEstrada Год назад +2

      The interesting this is there is a Toyota Manufacturing System for apparel manufacturing and it actually involves a working completing all the steps of a garment moving around a cell of sewing machines to complete it. That way one piece get started and finished by the same worker and it eliminates work in progress. It requires standup sewing machines though.

    • @StarstreamJester
      @StarstreamJester 4 месяца назад

      The difference is no one on a car assembly line is going to start a small business making cars.

  • @dragamboazulinqiacupuntura122
    @dragamboazulinqiacupuntura122 Год назад +2

    Thank you Dacob, we need to do so much better... We need the crap to come out so it can be fixed.

  • @samiamdean
    @samiamdean Год назад +2

    Wow this is awful to hear, thanks for covering and sharing the info!

  • @TheMaleGayz
    @TheMaleGayz Год назад +5

    This is the kind of behavior I would expect from the replica factories in China....not a leading brand itself. Eye-opening for sure, but It's sad I'm not shocked at the same time

    • @DungNguyen-ti9dk
      @DungNguyen-ti9dk Год назад

      I mean 😢 I stop buying from Shein because workers are treated poorly. I can’t afford Chanel frankly but to hear this is how they treated workers in France 😞 And the price tag is more than enough for them to treat them better.

  • @natasa3412
    @natasa3412 Год назад +2

    One word: Horrifying!

  • @whisper180
    @whisper180 Год назад +2

    "Ethical" and "sustainable" are the big marketing buzzwords right now. It's time to make them the reality. No more hypocrisy!

  • @murphyville
    @murphyville Год назад +2

    This is so sad. I just expected better from such a iconic brand!

  • @carolrakecky5083
    @carolrakecky5083 Год назад +2

    You look amazing today!!

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад

      Thank you so much Carol 🙏🏻💖🥰🌅🌸

  • @Foudedanse
    @Foudedanse Год назад +2

    Great video. Very sad :(. I worked in a french factory once looooong ago. We were treated well but this sound appalling what is happening with Chanel.

  • @aziscloset
    @aziscloset Год назад +3

    Sorry for all the comments .. i just loved this video ..
    i had a discussion with my chanel SA .. she told me the bags are all different ( flaps not being straight and stitching ) bc they are “ handmade” and they are not perfect bc they are “handmade “, when i asked her if they were actually handmade or machine made

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +5

      Chanel bags are for the most part machine made but with a few steps requiring human hands to finish them off. There are cases of bags made with a lot of sequins or extra added details. Those details might be done by hand as well but the bulk of the basic bags is made using machines mostly with a few steps in between done by human hands. The stitching if the leather and the combining assembly of the parts of the bag are usually done by machine while a human hand guides the pieces of leather through the machines,

    • @aziscloset
      @aziscloset Год назад +4

      I guess what i was saying is that she told me they are not “perfect “ bc they are “ handmade “ … but then again , i think if im paying $10k it better be damn perfect and symmetrical

    • @kyliewalker6647
      @kyliewalker6647 6 месяцев назад

      @@SuperDacobyou are right of course, machines make the patterns, cut the leather, sew the bags, but the artisan still has to guide the sewing machine and assemble the bag. It’s truly fascinating watching the whole process, from start to finish. There are some terrific videos of this on yt

    • @kyliewalker6647
      @kyliewalker6647 6 месяцев назад

      @@azisclosetEXACTLY!!! $20,000 AUD I’d expect bloody perfection!

  • @Tommaso_Squarzoni
    @Tommaso_Squarzoni Год назад +3

    NO WORDS….

  • @D-bow288
    @D-bow288 Год назад +9

    Thank you for this expose however this is not new - it’s sickening

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +3

      The article is a new article but we have been hearing about several luxury brands allegedly doing shady practices. 💖

    • @katherinechase3674
      @katherinechase3674 Год назад +1

      @@SuperDacob Are any not shady? After being well researched? Or are there levels to it all?

  • @LiaAndrews
    @LiaAndrews Год назад +1

    Not surprising. Brands that cut corners with product quality will try to get away with taking as much as they can from their employees. As someone who feels frozen in 60 degree weather this is inhumane working conditions.

  • @Aieshoo
    @Aieshoo Год назад +3

    They charge so much money and pay their workers so poorly. 😡

  • @StarstreamJester
    @StarstreamJester 4 месяца назад

    It's shocking this happens in France.

  • @AnastasiaBeverhousen
    @AnastasiaBeverhousen Год назад

    Shocking!

  • @helena20000
    @helena20000 4 месяца назад +2

    👍Well Said 'Super Dacob'

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  4 месяца назад

      Thank you 🥰🙏🏻

  • @Wilonda
    @Wilonda Год назад +4

    Yeeaah, I'm Officially Done Buying Designer Anything. I Started In 2020 Due To The Pandemic. Next Month Will Make It 1 Year Since I've Bought My Last Designer Bag (Preloved), And With All That Has Been Revealed Within This Past Year From Balenciaga, Chanel, & I'm Sure Others Will Join The Exposure Line Soon; It's Not Worth It. At One Point In Time Years Ago, I'm Pretty Sure It Was, But Now...Nahhh. I'm Good.
    I'm Honestly Thinking About Selling My Coco Handle I Bought In Cannes 2021 During My Bday Trip. Definitely Can Make A Profit From It, But It's My Only Chanel Bag 😮‍💨 Designer Is Just Not Luxurious Anymore. All Of These Accusations Are Leaving A Bad Taste In My Mouth For These Houses. I'm Not Sure How These Brands Still Have Some Folks In A Choke Hold 😬

  • @martingades
    @martingades Год назад

    The factory you mentioned with the huge sculpture in front of when you arrive is that “Les Ateliers de Verneuil-en-Halatte” ?

  • @viktoriaherzberg9519
    @viktoriaherzberg9519 5 месяцев назад

    I've studied manufacturing organization. Conveyor-type work organization where one person does only one thing is proven ineffective, as people tend to lose concentration after a few hours of work. Pure pragmatical approach to efficiency. It's just bad for the quality.
    Even more concerning for normative people is that this might increase the number of injuries plus lead to quick burnout. Disgusting.

  • @deconstructedluxury1964
    @deconstructedluxury1964 Год назад +3

    The contract will be given by Chanel based on a competitive low price for manufacture. The fault lies with Chanel for negotiating stupidly low prices with third party suppliers.

    • @kyliewalker6647
      @kyliewalker6647 6 месяцев назад +1

      Outsourcing, yes, I read something very similar about the LV workers in Spain & LV cutting costs and manufacturing parts of their bags in China during Covid. They had quality issues and returned to the original workers. It’s a small village in Spain and half the population are employed by LV apparently

    • @deconstructedluxury1964
      @deconstructedluxury1964 6 месяцев назад

      @@kyliewalker6647 there are some great videos on people investigating the leather tanneries and hardware suppliers in Italy- it's shocking and sad, but not surprising for luxury brands to be so ruthless

  • @saekuto
    @saekuto Год назад +1

    Such horrible working conditions, yet they could actually have them in a proper environment with good conditions, they can afford it. 😢

  • @AsaLyngstad
    @AsaLyngstad Год назад +6

    In the end it does not matter if you buy fast fashion or luxury. Unless some laws and control system changes (and bribes and lobby will be punished more) we cant do much. But it wont change ever. Humans have always been like that. You pay someone to shut up and they accept in most cases...

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +2

      Its a sad state of affairs for sure.

  • @mrsllewelyn822
    @mrsllewelyn822 Год назад

    Speaking of quality, what do you think of Polene?

  • @Jessiestyle
    @Jessiestyle Год назад

    It is really sad. A complete contrast to what’s shown on CCS RUclips channel in regards to how they “craft” the boy bag etc.

  • @sohogrunge9206
    @sohogrunge9206 Год назад +2

    Horrible and I‘m so glad people are speaking up, but if I‘m honest a lot of us assumed that this was going on and I do not think it‘s very recent. The issue is also far bigger than chanel unfortunately :(
    It‘s easy to stop buying chanel but where does it stop? Pretty much all the fashion houses/brands etc. are doing this, also food companies and so on. I think we really fucked up as a society/consumers and in a way it seems hopeless. I feel so sorry for these workers and the physical and mental abuse they have to go through.

  • @sarandaoverholser9738
    @sarandaoverholser9738 4 месяца назад

    They are too greedy. It's sad. I love Celine. It is under LVMH. If you have any information, i would love to know.
    I like your make up. You should do make up tutorial or share what you use. Its very beautiful eye shadow and blush on for this look.

  • @innekekoops4615
    @innekekoops4615 Год назад +1

    Did anybody was able to see the movie Gomorra, from Roberto Saviano?? I recommend, in that movie the shady business of the luxury brand factories are discussed…its sad..but a difficult discussion 😢

  • @gorgeouss79
    @gorgeouss79 Год назад +2

    If you do a quick google search you'll see that back in 2018 there's several article(s) talking about exploitative conditions and forced labor, including sweatshop conditions, at Prada, Fendi, Dior, Chanel, Max Mara, Louis Vuitton, Coach, Kate Spade, and Dolce & Gabbana (and I'm sure there's more). This isn't anything new. These fashion houses need to do better. We can make them do better by putting our money where our values lie.

    • @gorgeouss79
      @gorgeouss79 Год назад +1

      There's an article entitled "Luxury’s Hidden Indian Supply Chain" by The New York Times. Everyone should read it.

    • @deeplyerring
      @deeplyerring Год назад +2

      @@gorgeouss79 I used to work for a small designer 15 years ago. We would order our beaded textiles from a company in India. Sometimes we would choose from their designs, sometimes we would send them designs and they would make make them for us. We labeled our items as beaded in India, assembled in the USA. One day they messed up and emailed us purchase orders for a super high end Italian designer. And that fashion house, of course, labels all of their items as made in Italy. There’s just no transparency in fashion.

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +3

      I had a friend who worked for a major Luxury Brand in Paris and all their beaded pieces were ordered, made and sent from Bangladesh and India but the final products were all labelled either made in France or made in Italy.

  • @pinayinuk
    @pinayinuk Год назад

    Omg this is shocking

  • @bloodtypena
    @bloodtypena 5 месяцев назад

    Ok I don't know the laws regarding room temperature in France. But in Lithuania the law for room temperature is 18 C to 22 C so even if its 18 C still on the minimum. But maybe in France they don't have these laws. The temprature standard is 18 to 22 C not just 18 C

  • @minwade5436
    @minwade5436 Год назад

    Any product is only as good as having good HR practices & keeping staff comfortable whilst @ work. The No. 1 priority should be happy workers which will equate to better quality. Terribly sad state of affairs for those workers, I guess there’s no “union” support in the factory. Great vlog highlighting this topic Dacob. I had 3 factories in 2 Australian States to ensure all the workers were cared for & rec’d the appropriate rehab if they were injured @ work. Not luxe products but manufacturing air conditioning components & insulation products (complete with foundry & very hot temperatures to melt glass). If Australia can help their factory workers be well paid fairly happy workers, why can’t larger countries? It breaks my heart for these “piece workers” that don’t have good working conditions. So these “counterfeit” bags allegedly are made in the same factory as the authentic bags, isn’t this ripping consumers off & treating consumers as idiots⁉️ Best wishes from Adelaide; South Australia🇦🇺💐

  • @beethemessiah9973
    @beethemessiah9973 10 месяцев назад +1

    A lot of businesses are getting away with this kind of behavior in the US as well. Businesses are also getting in trouble for child labor. All I say is speak up and say it LOUD!! Unionize too because power in numbers. It’s 2023. These people shouldn’t be getting away with this stuff anymore.

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  10 месяцев назад

      Hear hear 🌅🌅🌅 unionizing is the way to go 💖💖💖

  • @crewlworld
    @crewlworld Год назад +2

    It sounds like those hides fell off the back of a trunk...allegedly! (cough cough)🤫

  • @Rachelleluluful
    @Rachelleluluful Год назад +4

    Just another reason to only buy pre-loved, vintage Chanel. Sounds like Mousselini is running Chanel now.

    • @Pieperteam
      @Pieperteam Год назад +1

      I ended to buy a new Chanel bag in 2021 and the bag was from 2019. New designs are also often strange styles that they have to cracks sooner or later.

    • @tippytoe1250
      @tippytoe1250 Год назад +1

      I haven’t bought from Chanel since 2016. I also stopped buying from other luxury brand around 2019. Just couldn’t justify the prices anymore. So I settle for being content with what I already have.

  • @carlosillustrates
    @carlosillustrates Год назад +3

    How long before Chanel bags are made in Texas? Imagine!

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +4

      Louis Vuitton already makes some of their bags in the USA… its all possible 😉

    • @carlosillustrates
      @carlosillustrates Год назад

      @@SuperDacob I know, I live in Texas.

  • @timetomuskup2
    @timetomuskup2 Год назад

    I guess this is one reason why that guy Tanner has taken off.

  • @jolies5329
    @jolies5329 Год назад

    Shocking info. Did anyone know that Chanel outsources production?
    FYI: Mediapart is a credible investigative journalism publication. SMIC is the French minimum wage.

  • @mahoganyqt1
    @mahoganyqt1 Год назад +1

    wow….one of the main reasons people are told not to buy fakes is due to the poor working conditions in sweat shops.

  • @aziscloset
    @aziscloset Год назад +1

    Regarding have them specialize in one thing may not be a bad thing as they can do a much better job focusing on what they are specializing in instead
    Of doing everything… at least thats how it is in medicine .. you want to go to a specialist who focus on a few procedures instead of doing everything … thats how they become experts.. i loved this video tho .. thank you for sharing

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +1

      You said it: in medicine they specialize in a few procedures. Not just one! In the factory its just one. Plus I would not compare a doctor or surgeon who saves lives to a bag maker. Imagine a surgeon specializing only in cutting open a human chest to access a heart for heart surgery but then not knowing how to do the next step cuz they were only trained to do that one thing… good luck paying that medical bill later, after fifty to a hundred surgeons had to work on you for one procedure.💖

    • @aziscloset
      @aziscloset Год назад

      Yes good point 👍🏼

  • @aziscloset
    @aziscloset Год назад +1

    Omg 😱

  • @msocean542
    @msocean542 Год назад +2

    Whoa 😳 this is pretty scary stuff… sad and def not “luxury”

    • @flohough1870
      @flohough1870 Год назад

      To me it doesn't seem like it's an authentic piece if it needs to be outsourced.

  • @dragamboazulinqiacupuntura122
    @dragamboazulinqiacupuntura122 Год назад +2

    I agree not promoting employee professional development is a form of modern slavery. If you add frozen fingers and silence... Get robots then... Why are you treating people without human dignity? Unacceptable

  • @OrioleBeagle
    @OrioleBeagle 5 месяцев назад

    People need to move around to avoid getting blood clots.

  • @Jason-ml3vs
    @Jason-ml3vs 6 месяцев назад

    For the insane prices these places charge for a few square feet of apparently cheap leather and now trashy gold painted hardware these workers should be delivered to work by limousine and hand fed caviar.

  • @sqwekity2
    @sqwekity2 Год назад +2

    Chanel won’t get in trouble if they “subcontract” out. We all know how the game is played.

    • @flohough1870
      @flohough1870 Год назад

      Which why are they subcontracting out in the first place? This seems to be an underlying problem in fashion that gets worse by the day. Greed. Crank them out, sell them, perpetuate the lie I guess.

  • @juliaf4837
    @juliaf4837 Год назад

    Bags in general are 99% of the time made in terrible conditions, I've seen it, been there. What I don't understand is: why is it that such huge, luxery brands NEED so much profit? I mean, the bags are SO expensive. Why can't they pay fair salaries?

  • @octobermoon9
    @octobermoon9 Год назад +1

    I'm curious who owns this factory.

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +1

      From what I gather from the article it seems to be privately owned but who knows… maybe some major brand is hiding behind the ownership of the factory. But that is of course just speculation and everything is just alleged.

  • @chrislstahl4239
    @chrislstahl4239 Год назад +3

    Guess what? I always dreamt about owning some colorful tweed bag from chanel. I didn't want to buy it preloved because of all fakes out there....
    Then the quality issues, the snobism and now that...
    Thx but no thx.

  • @erikalatanya8478
    @erikalatanya8478 Год назад +2

    But are these factories owned by the brands or are the factories just contractors? I’m thinking if they don’t own the factories then they can’t control the factories which is why the factories may be selling replicas through the back door.

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +2

      This is a question many of us are asking ourselves. I do think that there are possibly many legal loopholes for bigger corporations to use in order to minimize or cancel out liabilities. There is always a way I suppose but the question for me is not so much about the legalities of all these practices but rather about the morals. If any given brand hires subsidiaries and external factories, then they technically allegedly have no responsibilities about how the owners of said factories treat their workers. But what about the moral responsibilities?

    • @erikalatanya8478
      @erikalatanya8478 Год назад

      @@SuperDacob I agree.

    • @nathalieduran7355
      @nathalieduran7355 Год назад +1

      @@SuperDacob it's a separate company called La Fabrique Andegave. They specialize in subcontracting work for companies like Chanel. This is their second factory opening and it looks like they have been benefiting from the French Employment ministry many 'job creations' subsidy scheme to train workers. It's a gravy train for them to employ people at low cost with state funding under the premise that they will create permanent jobs in a rural part of France. Sadly a lot of employers use these schemes to line their pockets at the expense of the workers.

  • @Jessiestyle
    @Jessiestyle Год назад +1

    Lol yes I watched the fendi factory video…seems suss and hard for me to trust 😅

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад

      Extremely sus to say the least. 💖 allegedly

  • @devonneshort4749
    @devonneshort4749 Год назад

    That's horrible greed is real so sad😢

  • @surpriseme1082
    @surpriseme1082 Год назад +2

    Ridiculous that a laborer is complaining that they can’t afford the luxury item they make. Luxury items aren’t made for laborers lol

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +2

      Thats a very classist way of seeing things. Just because the system is sick, It doesn’t mean it should remain that way.

    • @surpriseme1082
      @surpriseme1082 Год назад

      @@SuperDacob we’re not socialists here.

  • @ginkat1318
    @ginkat1318 Год назад

    Oh no, cliffhanger

  • @mrbabushka8715
    @mrbabushka8715 Год назад

    Thats actually made sense. Because, honestly speaking its impossible for luxury brand to be mass producing of bags whilst maintaining its quality and having it ready 24/7 if it wasnt for hiring small factories to be making it in large scale. And also, i have few pieces of certain designer brand that have sturdy leather and the stiches are very properly but it came with a serial number that deemed counterfeit. i was unhappy, so i bought the original. Dude, the original leather peels, it cracks. I in fact used the original less knowing its original but its busted too much than the counterfeit. I was flabbergasted.

    • @SuperDacob
      @SuperDacob  Год назад +1

      Times are tough for luxury leather products in general.

    • @kyliewalker6647
      @kyliewalker6647 6 месяцев назад

      Yes, I recall my first experience of Damier ebene cracking on my bucket bag back in 1998, that’s why I’d never buy a neverfull or any design with edging. (Except with Chanel bcos they don’t have any of those issues)

  • @mlh5627
    @mlh5627 Год назад

    so sad.......But what is tolerated...is promoted!

  • @jonidjuanda5013
    @jonidjuanda5013 Год назад

    Amazing how luxury brand keep pressing their SA while their brand value getting higher.

  • @leouisegrech722
    @leouisegrech722 Год назад

    For $10,000 bag it better be perfect!