I know you mentioned it, but there is a clear distinction between Rev rec and receiving the cash. You are allowed to recognize the revenue as long as you delivered the service. However, cashflow doesn't always track with rev rec.
Hey TK, Great video. I was wondering, at what point do revenues start to be considered MRR? For example, if I have a customer on a 3-month contract (paying once per month), is this really recurring? Or in other words, after how many months of recurring payment (3, 6, 9 months) can it provide a meaningful MRR? Thanks
It should count as MRR if the customer is expected to continue to use the product and pay for it for the foreseeable future unless you fail the customer in some way along the way (churn).
@@TKKader but, how do you regsiter in the MRR metric the normalized value of that customer that paid the 6 months subscription in one time payment?? I mean, if you divide it between 12 and he leaves the company in the 7th month, how do you register the churn rate?, Do you have to wait until the 12th month to register the Churn, even though he left in the 7th month?
Awesome as always, Just want to add one more reason for not having cash flows to make payments even though sales are doing fine is your As CAC spending is upfront while LTV gets paid overtime in SaaS.
This is amazing!!, Just one doubt: Considering the example of an “IT Consulting company”; how do you include in the MRR metric the earnings of “it projects” (software and applications developments, etc) that have a duration of 3, 7 or 24 months?? I mean, I could divide the “Total Contract Value (TCV)” between 12, but after 7 months, when the project had been finished and total payments had been done, I would have to register a “Churn”, but this would be incorrect! I would have only taken into account 58% of income (7 months out of 12)… the other option is to divide the TCV between 12 and register the Customer Churn 5 moths later t 5 months after the actual departure date, but this would make an unreal MRR metric… I really hope you could help me!
Hey TK! Thanks for the informative video! I still have the following question. Let's assume that there is no churn rate and the subscription moments are continuously increasing. Is it then correct to simply take the MRR of month 12 and multiply by 12 to calculate the ARR after the first year? Or do I need to accumulate each MRR of the past 12 months?
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TK - My favourite part is how you visualized rev rec as a beer belly 😂
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Well Explained brother
Glad you liked it
I know you mentioned it, but there is a clear distinction between Rev rec and receiving the cash. You are allowed to recognize the revenue as long as you delivered the service. However, cashflow doesn't always track with rev rec.
Correct.
Does MRR apply to other, more traditional types of businesses besides SaaS/Subscription based businesses?
You can certainly have a non SaaS recurring revenue business. Like gyms.
Thanks TK , great video
Thank you too for watching!
YES YES YES. valuable af
Boom!! Glad you’re getting value!
Hey TK, what camera are you using for your videos?
Nothing fancy, I use a 4-year old Sony a6300 with a Rode Mic.
Not bad, might buy the updated version for my SaaS channel content. Your videos are great.
Awesome video man, thank you so much for the simple language
Glad you enjoyed it man!
Any idea for how to include usage/variable consideration revenue in arr?
What if we charge 6 month and 1 year plans? Everyone is required to pay upfront. Assuming ARR would be the better calculation?
Hey TK, Great video. I was wondering, at what point do revenues start to be considered MRR? For example, if I have a customer on a 3-month contract (paying once per month), is this really recurring? Or in other words, after how many months of recurring payment (3, 6, 9 months) can it provide a meaningful MRR?
Thanks
It should count as MRR if the customer is expected to continue to use the product and pay for it for the foreseeable future unless you fail the customer in some way along the way (churn).
@@TKKader but, how do you regsiter in the MRR metric the normalized value of that customer that paid the 6 months subscription in one time payment?? I mean, if you divide it between 12 and he leaves the company in the 7th month, how do you register the churn rate?, Do you have to wait until the 12th month to register the Churn, even though he left in the 7th month?
I love your honest stories thank you!
Glad you like them!
Awesome as always, Just want to add one more reason for not having cash flows to make payments even though sales are doing fine is your As CAC spending is upfront while
LTV gets paid overtime in SaaS.
Totally. I should’ve included that one! Perhaps in a future video.
Awesome content TK, keep it coming👌
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Great content and very useful info! I really like the concrete examples.
Can't thank you enough for your kind words!
This is amazing!!, Just one doubt:
Considering the example of an “IT Consulting company”; how do you include in the MRR metric the earnings of “it projects” (software and applications developments, etc) that have a duration of 3, 7 or 24 months?? I mean, I could divide the “Total Contract Value (TCV)” between 12, but after 7 months, when the project had been finished and total payments had been done, I would have to register a “Churn”, but this would be incorrect! I would have only taken into account 58% of income (7 months out of 12)… the other option is to divide the TCV between 12 and register the Customer Churn 5 moths later t 5 months after the actual departure date, but this would make an unreal MRR metric…
I really hope you could help me!
Hey TK! Thanks for the informative video! I still have the following question. Let's assume that there is no churn rate and the subscription moments are continuously increasing. Is it then correct to simply take the MRR of month 12 and multiply by 12 to calculate the ARR after the first year? Or do I need to accumulate each MRR of the past 12 months?
Generally, MRR x 12 is your ARR. Most don't even take the churn into account (usually).
MRR vs ARR cadence - Would perhaps another factor to decide be the customer's budgeting cycles? Awesome byte sized sessions btw. Thanks!
That could certainly be a consideration! However, important to focus on offerings + customers who are going to use you quarter after quarter.
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