Nice video and play. They sound pretty close. Very subtle differences... I have TS-9 and TS-808... I use both and honestly I don't loose too much time comparing them. Both do the job... TS10, TS9 and TS808 sounds like... Ibanez Tube Screamer. I love them... I do not miss a TS10. I am very happy with my two versions of ts and today would be very pleased with only one of them.
They all sound the same but the 808 looks the coolest🤣 For real tho the only difference is that there’s more treble on tap in the tone control with the ts9 or ts10. The 808 can’t get as bright. That’s why metalheads love them. But if you keep the tone close to the middle, yeah you can’t hear a difference
I have the TS10 and I wanted to get either the 9 or 808. TS9 feels more even and leveled overall. TS808 and TS10 sound pretty much identical to me especially with the gain at 12. Would be great to hear just the two of them back to back. Compared to the TS9 they can get more "acid and raw", great for vintage tones.
Man the 9 and 10 sound crazy close to the live Try! version of Good Love...Used to play that tune in a band. Did the same little G and D string B-A-G F#-E-D triplet roll you did lol
ok but the jhs is a modern pedal, it does not have a mojo ans sex appeal. the TS808 is legendary and is my favorite and in reality is more transparent and has more dynamics than the TS9.
@@quoimagueule628 If you think a pedal needs mojo and sex appeal, then great for you...kinda weird, but whatever. I don't care what it looks like, I use them to make noises with my guitar, the noise rules, not the "sex appeal"....What do you do with your pedals btw? haha!
@@joesaxon6566 Like many passionate guitarists, I love vintage gear. (pedal, guitar, amps) and the sound is essential but so is the design. the ts9 we see everywhere it's a pedal that's too common and too copied, the bump in the medium bothers me. the TS808 is much warmer and pleasant to the ear, it also has more dynamics, to boost a fuzz it reacts better. you have to be honest and not lie to yourself, it sounds better. on a RUclips video it is very difficult to tell the difference, especially for a beginner. the videos are so compressed that they lose the most important frequencies which make the difference during a comparison. overdrives I have lots of ts808, KOT analogman, klon centaur, anasound (a French brand from home) vemuram jan ray. These are the only overdrives that I kept, and they are only vintage and “boutique” pedals. I don't know if the term boutique means this to you too
@@joesaxon6566 everyone knows that the TS808 is superior and sounds better than the TS9, if you didn't know that you need to review your training my little one.
Note articulation/clarity: 9>808>10 Compression: 10>808>9 Hated the TS10! It just melted the notes together and it was so so compressed it just killed the dynamics of my playing. Now I have a TS808 35th anniversary and love it! So unforgiving! Only thing is that is a quiet pedal. But when boosted ia heaven! At least over my DRRI.
Different examples of those 3 pedals will obviously yield different results (some ts9's just sound better than others, same with 808's and ts10's). I think the Ts9 in this video is a better than average Ts9......it sounds better than the other two imo.
Thanks for this comparison! The TS 808's legendary status is well-deserved, but the TS 10 seems like a good alternative with its own character. Which one surprised you the most?
Hi, my question does not include a comparison between the Tubescreamers, what i liked the most was the sound of stacking the gain pedals. Do you go TS -> Centura or Centura-> TS? Greetings!
Interesting. When you play ‘who did you think I was’ I actually prefer the ts10, it sounds more scooped and distinct. But when you add the centura and do lead stuff I cant hear the difference anymore
It is the same as a ts 808. Maxon made al the TS for Ibanez back in the day. I just don't get the hype of a ts10 it used to be the cheapest one and now they are ridiculous over priced 😂
yes pretty similar if not the same but i'd say the od808 (my unit) is more transparent, less mids, and bigger headroom somehow but you have to remember tolerance in the pots and parts may differ so every od808 or ts10 may have a difference. But i use both od808 and ts10 in my rig, they sound amazing! especially when u stack them!
Hi. I have some more questions. Thanks in advance! What is the Katana pedal? Where are the screamers is the signal chain? Does JM put his screamer after or before the Klon?
I sold a perfectly working TS 10 last year for $45 I can't see how people are asking from $400 to $1,000, how stupid is that? My modern Maxon SD9, Mad Professor and Zendrive pedals do the trick nicely thanks.
Hi. I have a katana mini going into a Mk1 BB into a TS10. I know this is the combo he used for where the light is, but I can’t seem to get the sustain that he got. When I switch to a maxon TS I get a little more. Any advise?
Hi! I did a video trying to mimick the tone he got for 'Belief' on 'Where The Light Is'. Those settings should help. Not claiming I got the exact same tone, but I guess it's on the ballpark
Here it's placed before the drives, pushing them into (slightly) more saturation. If you place it after the drives, you won't get more saturation, but more volume
Great tones bro! They’re all definitely similar and you honestly won’t be able to tell in a full band mix lol Btw, what’s your setup? Amp? Guitar? Pickups? Bcuz it sounded soo good! 🤩
Gracias, Johnny! As I told you, Peace Hill TRJM and BIAS AMP 2, the guitar is my MIA Strat: Genesis HW Texas Special (neck), Fat 50s (middle) and Lindy Fralin Vintage Hot (bridge)
The TS-10, .. has "some PRO & Creamy Sound", .. (in My Ears), and sound more Full & Fat, .. but the One TS-10 I can Buy now, (in Sweden) costs around $400, .. & That Is Very Expensive! .. I can Buy 2 TS-808 (used) & or 4-5 TS-9's for the Price of One TS-10! .. I'm Happy with My TS-9 for Now!! ;-)) It Sounds Great In My Band, .. & Nobody are Missing "the Extra Creamyness!" .. 🤩
i really doubt that someone can hear any difference when playing with a band and guess which TS is being used... guitar players are getting even more stupid with those prices on cheap pedals
Thanks for the video. It is difficult to hear the real difference between TS10 and TS808 on the video. In real, did you hear a difference that could justify to pay 250/300€ for the TS10? Thank you
It's definitely not a difference worth $250 in terms of sound. It *might* be worth in terms of being collectable and sought-after, but as you heard in the video, they're closer than most people would think
808 is that classic sound, TS9 growls &is my preferred choice, TS10 is flubby least like the other two adds complexity I like complexity in my wine not in my beer our my tubes screamer it is the IPA of guitar pedals...some people like the taste of a** as for me it is a hard pass.
@@sebgentyguitariste1744the hot rod is a little bit of the black sheep of fender amps. I’ve played one for years, the amount of clean headroom and loudness and midrange makes them unique. He probably means like a blackface fender amp like a twin or a deluxe reverb. They’re more scooped. When you turn the volume knob on a pedal, usually the amp gets more distorted too because you’re pushing the front end. But on a hot rod, it doesn’t. It just gets louder because of the massive headroom. Good if you need a pedal platform amp so you can really hear the sound of the pedals
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Honestly all 3 are good. I'd be happy with any of them!
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Nice video and play. They sound pretty close. Very subtle differences... I have TS-9 and TS-808... I use both and honestly I don't loose too much time comparing them. Both do the job... TS10, TS9 and TS808 sounds like... Ibanez Tube Screamer. I love them... I do not miss a TS10. I am very happy with my two versions of ts and today would be very pleased with only one of them.
You're a really great player, man! Excellent demos!
Thank you so much!
Man,this comparison is good.
The tubescreamers really amplifies the woody tone of guitars. Between 1.54 to 2.24
They definitely aren't capable of that.
The one I liked more in ALL of the situations you put is the TS9, always gorgeous in my opinion!
Thank you, I'll go look for one😅😂😂😂
They all sound the same to me 😎
Oh yes!
😂😂😂
100%
They all sound the same but the 808 looks the coolest🤣
For real tho the only difference is that there’s more treble on tap in the tone control with the ts9 or ts10. The 808 can’t get as bright. That’s why metalheads love them. But if you keep the tone close to the middle, yeah you can’t hear a difference
I like the green one
Pretty close! (almost the same IMO)
Super close!
Got all 3 - love em all, but if I had to pick one, its the 1981 TS9 for me
I have the TS10 and I wanted to get either the 9 or 808. TS9 feels more even and leveled overall. TS808 and TS10 sound pretty much identical to me especially with the gain at 12. Would be great to hear just the two of them back to back. Compared to the TS9 they can get more "acid and raw", great for vintage tones.
non buttare i soldi.... il ts 10 è molto bello...
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Man the 9 and 10 sound crazy close to the live Try! version of Good Love...Used to play that tune in a band. Did the same little G and D string B-A-G F#-E-D triplet roll you did lol
To me the ts10 and ts9 sound pretty much the same but I hear a very slight difference in the 808 compares to the 10 and 9
What do you feel from the 808? I say it's slightly "warmer" without being extra compressed
@@JohnMayerGear yeah definitely! Been playing with a ts9 for a long time now and would say it’s definitely my favorite. Which one do you prefer?
@@zakgershagen8241 if I were to choose just one, the 808!
@@JohnMayerGear yesssssss brother.....💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃🕺.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
3:51 vs 4:09
Don’t mind me, just using the timestamps to compare these 2
This is why I just ordered the JHS Bonsai! I can have them all in one pedal now!
ok but the jhs is a modern pedal, it does not have a mojo ans sex appeal.
the TS808 is legendary and is my favorite and in reality is more transparent and has more dynamics than the TS9.
@@quoimagueule628 If you think a pedal needs mojo and sex appeal, then great for you...kinda weird, but whatever. I don't care what it looks like, I use them to make noises with my guitar, the noise rules, not the "sex appeal"....What do you do with your pedals btw? haha!
@@joesaxon6566 Like many passionate guitarists, I love vintage gear. (pedal, guitar, amps) and the sound is essential but so is the design.
the ts9 we see everywhere it's a pedal that's too common and too copied, the bump in the medium bothers me.
the TS808 is much warmer and pleasant to the ear, it also has more dynamics, to boost a fuzz it reacts better.
you have to be honest and not lie to yourself, it sounds better.
on a RUclips video it is very difficult to tell the difference, especially for a beginner. the videos are so compressed that they lose the most important frequencies which make the difference during a comparison.
overdrives I have lots of ts808, KOT analogman, klon centaur, anasound (a French brand from home) vemuram jan ray.
These are the only overdrives that I kept, and they are only vintage and “boutique” pedals.
I don't know if the term boutique means this to you too
@@quoimagueule628 You make a lot of assumptions in your post and assert your preference in sound as "better". Whatever dude....
@@joesaxon6566 everyone knows that the TS808 is superior and sounds better than the TS9, if you didn't know that you need to review your training my little one.
Note articulation/clarity: 9>808>10
Compression: 10>808>9
Hated the TS10! It just melted the notes together and it was so so compressed it just killed the dynamics of my playing.
Now I have a TS808 35th anniversary and love it! So unforgiving! Only thing is that is a quiet pedal. But when boosted ia heaven! At least over my DRRI.
I agree with the 808 being the one with a more "overall" sound for a TS
Different examples of those 3 pedals will obviously yield different results (some ts9's just sound better than others, same with 808's and ts10's).
I think the Ts9 in this video is a better than average Ts9......it sounds better than the other two imo.
Great comparison. Do you recall your amp settings in this video?
I mimic John’s usual settings from his Two-Rock Sig amp into my Peace Hill TRJM preamp
Thanks for this comparison! The TS 808's legendary status is well-deserved, but the TS 10 seems like a good alternative with its own character. Which one surprised you the most?
Definitely the 808 is the overall warmer, I'd say
ts10 is not "alternative", its the most expensive and rare one.
Hi, my question does not include a comparison between the Tubescreamers, what i liked the most was the sound of stacking the gain pedals.
Do you go TS -> Centura or Centura-> TS?
Greetings!
Hi! Both are great sounds! I think Klon at the end offers a kinda bigger sound
What level did you keep the katana the whole time?
0:51 omg what is that riff it’s been stuck in my head for the longest time 😫😫
Good Love Is on the Way
Interesting. When you play ‘who did you think I was’ I actually prefer the ts10, it sounds more scooped and distinct. But when you add the centura and do lead stuff I cant hear the difference anymore
What about the Maxon od808 ? Close to a ts10?
Haven't had the chance to play one myself
It is the same as a ts 808. Maxon made al the TS for Ibanez back in the day. I just don't get the hype of a ts10 it used to be the cheapest one and now they are ridiculous over priced 😂
yes pretty similar if not the same but i'd say the od808 (my unit) is more transparent, less mids, and bigger headroom somehow but you have to remember tolerance in the pots and parts may differ so every od808 or ts10 may have a difference. But i use both od808 and ts10 in my rig, they sound amazing! especially when u stack them!
I'll go for ts808. TS9 and TS10 is too aggressive for me.
Same. Out of these 3 units, 808 is the one I use the most
Where should the gain be on the tube screamer when paired with the clean boost and klon for Where the Light is tone?
Klon wasn't used for Where The Light Is.
There's a video on my channel where I try to match the sound for Belief from WTLI. Those settings might help
@@JohnMayerGear Will check it out! Thanks.
Hi. I have some more questions. Thanks in advance! What is the Katana pedal? Where are the screamers is the signal chain? Does JM put his screamer after or before the Klon?
The Katana is a clean boost. The TS are after the Centura. JM switches the order of TS and Klon back and forth
I sold a perfectly working TS 10 last year for $45 I can't see how people are asking from $400 to $1,000, how stupid is that?
My modern Maxon SD9, Mad Professor and Zendrive pedals do the trick nicely thanks.
Hi. I have a katana mini going into a Mk1 BB into a TS10. I know this is the combo he used for where the light is, but I can’t seem to get the sustain that he got. When I switch to a maxon TS I get a little more. Any advise?
Hi! I did a video trying to mimick the tone he got for 'Belief' on 'Where The Light Is'. Those settings should help. Not claiming I got the exact same tone, but I guess it's on the ballpark
Tasty morsels
What exactly is the Katana pedal?
A clean boost, no coloration to the tone
Do you always put katana first? What if there’s a wah?
I think they are the same )) Thank you
One question, where is the katana‘s position in that chain , I’ve heard it does make a difference
Here it's placed before the drives, pushing them into (slightly) more saturation. If you place it after the drives, you won't get more saturation, but more volume
Great tones bro! They’re all definitely similar and you honestly won’t be able to tell in a full band mix lol
Btw, what’s your setup? Amp? Guitar? Pickups? Bcuz it sounded soo good! 🤩
Gracias, Johnny!
As I told you, Peace Hill TRJM and BIAS AMP 2, the guitar is my MIA Strat: Genesis HW Texas Special (neck), Fat 50s (middle) and Lindy Fralin Vintage Hot (bridge)
The TS-10, .. has "some PRO & Creamy Sound", .. (in My Ears), and sound more Full & Fat, .. but the One TS-10 I can Buy now, (in Sweden) costs around $400, .. & That Is Very Expensive! .. I can Buy 2 TS-808 (used) & or 4-5 TS-9's for the Price of One TS-10! .. I'm Happy with My TS-9 for Now!! ;-)) It Sounds Great In My Band, .. & Nobody are Missing "the Extra Creamyness!" .. 🤩
They don't sound a lot different but the TS10 does seem to have more character and depth than the other two.
Are the ts9 and ts808 keeley modded?
No. Stock
What amp is this?
i really doubt that someone can hear any difference when playing with a band and guess which TS is being used... guitar players are getting even more stupid with those prices on cheap pedals
Yeah, I don't like prices getting so crazy!
TS-9 sounds the best to me
Thanks for the video. It is difficult to hear the real difference between TS10 and TS808 on the video. In real, did you hear a difference that could justify to pay 250/300€ for the TS10? Thank you
It's definitely not a difference worth $250 in terms of sound. It *might* be worth in terms of being collectable and sought-after, but as you heard in the video, they're closer than most people would think
TS10 sounds better cause its more expensive :P
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808 is that classic sound, TS9 growls &is my preferred choice, TS10 is flubby least like the other two adds complexity I like complexity in my wine not in my beer our my tubes screamer it is the IPA of guitar pedals...some people like the taste of a** as for me it is a hard pass.
the switchpedal of the TS10 is better
No sens without knowing the amp model …
This works the same with any clean Fender-styled amp
I had ts9 , ts 808 and mini , they sound the same … but with hot rod Deluxe doesn’t sound like that 😢
@@sebgentyguitariste1744the hot rod is a little bit of the black sheep of fender amps. I’ve played one for years, the amount of clean headroom and loudness and midrange makes them unique. He probably means like a blackface fender amp like a twin or a deluxe reverb. They’re more scooped.
When you turn the volume knob on a pedal, usually the amp gets more distorted too because you’re pushing the front end.
But on a hot rod, it doesn’t. It just gets louder because of the massive headroom. Good if you need a pedal platform amp so you can really hear the sound of the pedals
why do people always use single coils….. 🤦♀️
Cause they’re awesome!