Found this video after juggling the idea with becoming an art therapist, I much appreciate you putting this video out there for a reference! I also imagined myself with this awesome space to help clients- more or less a cool fish tank for clients too look at and all sorts of art supplies! A safe place. But billing and stuff- yeah that seems frustrating haha
I've been planning to take up a masters in art therapy and hopefully work in the pediatrics department of a nice and big hospital, not necessarily private practice or freelance. However, there's so many things I'm unsure of, like whether I'll actually be able to get a stable job after investing in a university degree and such and whether I can just get a certificate in art therapy instead of taking a post graduate degree. Everything becomes all the more scary since I plan to study abroad so I guess I want to know everything with certainty.. but there's no way to know if I'll enjoy and succeed in something I'm trying for the first time haha
Im thinking of majoring in art therapy for my masters. Im doing psych right now for my bachelors, would you recommend that i do counseling for my masters and just do a certificate in art therapy? Thank you!
@@VanessaLoveCounselor Can you elaborate on why you feel it would be better to do master's in counseling or psychotherapy instead of art therapy? Is it because art therapy is too limiting?
Yes, it's very difficult to go from state to state. A therapy or counseling can theoretically be easily transferred to another state and one could read all the literature about adding art and art therapy theories to a practice. Sometimes there are art therapy certifications or post master programs offered but those are also hotly contested. This field is a mess.
Any subject is totally fine. It's not good to use the materials in a way to damage them, ie pressing too hard on paint brushes, eating clay, etc. I think one colleague told me that their client wouldn't do artwork because the client always worn new clothes to the sessions.
I have my counseling license. I am working on getting my art therapy recognition (it's not a license in any state) or ATR so I can continue to call myself an art therapist. If I don't get the ATR, my masters in art therapy is mute.
Hello! I realize you don't like art therapy, but my girlfriend is interested and university of florida has a certificate program in it. Just curious, do you know anything about the cert programs vs the MA programs? Also, what is a good assumption of starting pay in the field? Some additional information would be great! Thanks! (hopefully you still keep up with these comments lol)
Greener Side Wellness I didn't realize that some places are still doing the certifications. Certifications are much better because you can be a licensed mental health worker or licensed social worker and get a certification in art therapy. I don't necessarily agree with a master's in art therapy because the starting rate is really low. As far as I can tell the people who are working in the fields average between 20 and $60,000 and work between 40 and 60 hours a week.
@@Marie-vj5pk I'm licensed. Since writing this comment two years ago, there are not certifications in art therapy available anymore. The pay scale remains the same.
@@VanessaLoveCounselor The college I want to attend has a program for Clinical Mental Health Counseling and Art Therapy together. Is that the type of program you had?
@@Marie-vj5pk the school I attended eventually had that. But when I attended, they were not officially approved as a counseling program but as an art therapy program.
It went really good!! i got a little sensitive and was about to cry but then she kept asking me questions and i kept talking and she would listen i will have an appointment once every week and i hope i will get better soon :) the therapist also asked my mom some questions about me to see what she can help me with!
Hi! I'm a junior in high school and I am planning on going into art therapy as my career path! are there anything you think I should know? thank you so much :-)
I'm not sure. What aspect are you most interested in? I.e. are you interested in private practice? Populations you can work with? What to expect in school?
@@VanessaLoveCounselor thanks for replying! I'm hoping to work with the lgbtq+ community, I think private practice would suit me well but I'm not opposed to other ideas. I'm guess I'm curious as to what to expect in school?
In my grad school experience, I did lots of artwork, research and essays. I can't attest to what other programs are like nor what the program I attended is currently since it's been a decade.
Thank you for this video!! I just graduated with a BFA in Media Art with a minor in psychology. Im really interested in art therapy and I want to go to graduate school for that. Would going to graduate school in counseling work well with that. What do you recommend?
If you'd like to do counseling, then, that is an option. You can check with your state or country to see what the requirements are. If you don't plan on staying in your state or country, check the process for other countries and states. If you need help, you can talk with your college's career counseling center to see what options are best for you. I apologize if this isn't a direct answer. I don't know your full story so I don't feel I can give a definitive answer for you, your likes, your personality, and what your career goals are. Best of luck.
Hello, I’m a junior in high school and I’m exploring different career options. I was thinking about art therapy (specifically for kids) in hospitals- is that too hard of a field to get into? Is it pretty common? Do you know what qualifications I would need? Thank you so much!
You can find resources at arttherapy.org/becoming-art-therapist/ It's a field that changes often. It depends on your area as to whether there are opportunities in hospitals where you would work with kids. What do you think you'd like about the career?
@@VanessaLoveCounselor thank you for the information! I think the thing that appeals to me the most is working with kids- I’d like to be able to be a friend to them and help them through art.
Hello. I'm in my AS level year, and I'm looking into becoming an art therapist. I personally do not think A level will benefit me, especially with the subjects I am doing. Do you think I could apply for an art therapy course with just my O-Level and AS Level results?
I can't attest to what is required. The British Association of Art Therapy can help you better understand what's necessary for you to study art therapy.
Hey, So I hold a masters degree in PSychology from India and planning to pick up an art therapy course with some aspect of psychology in it. any suggestions?
I'm not sure if it works the same way, but in the US, we have Continuing Education Credits (CEUs) in Art therapy with particular concentrations like Art Therapy in Grief so we get flyers sent to us about these topics. I watched a good one on RUclips called Art Therapy for Survivors of Sexual Trauma on the Center for Healthy Sex channel.
i am interested in a drastic career change and considering art therapy. there are grievances in most work that i, and most people experience first hand in almost any role- so just to understand what you're saying for someone who is seeking to learn more- medical records are the annoying thing? im not exactly clear.
Most graduate programs require art classes. If you have that requirement fulfilled, you'll be accepted. I apologize that I can't give you direct answers about what career might be good for you as I don't know your history, interests or capabilities. There are career counselors as well as college counselors available in most areas if you want to figure it out.
angel sorrentino yes, I do. If I didn't go to a program that also let me get a different license that was covered by insurance, I would be working in a hellish facility. I don't like that I have my masters in this instead of marriage and family therapist or social worker. Its not easy to go across state lines and it's a lot of work for only the recognition of being an art therapist, nothing that makes a significant income for how much is spent on getting the recognition.
angel sorrentino it depends on the person. I don't recommend it in its current state. I think a masters in social work or something else works better with the additional trainings in art therapy.
Go for it!!! It is an amazing field. Do research before hand. It doesn't sound like Vanessa did. I have met with so many amazing Art Therapists and they love it!!
That's if the client keeps the work. Often, clients leave work and some clients don't want it around their house because it's fairly personal. It's up to the therapist, what's dictated by ethics and what the client states and understands about the work. Bruce Moon goes over this extensively in his ethics book. He says it belongs to the session.
Found this video after juggling the idea with becoming an art therapist, I much appreciate you putting this video out there for a reference! I also imagined myself with this awesome space to help clients- more or less a cool fish tank for clients too look at and all sorts of art supplies! A safe place. But billing and stuff- yeah that seems frustrating haha
I've been planning to take up a masters in art therapy and hopefully work in the pediatrics department of a nice and big hospital, not necessarily private practice or freelance. However, there's so many things I'm unsure of, like whether I'll actually be able to get a stable job after investing in a university degree and such and whether I can just get a certificate in art therapy instead of taking a post graduate degree. Everything becomes all the more scary since I plan to study abroad so I guess I want to know everything with certainty.. but there's no way to know if I'll enjoy and succeed in something I'm trying for the first time haha
I'm in the same position rn
I wonder how is it going for you now
what did you end up doing?😊
Im thinking of majoring in art therapy for my masters. Im doing psych right now for my bachelors, would you recommend that i do counseling for my masters and just do a certificate in art therapy? Thank you!
Angie and Krystal Absolutely yes.
@@VanessaLoveCounselor Can you elaborate on why you feel it would be better to do master's in counseling or psychotherapy instead of art therapy? Is it because art therapy is too limiting?
Yes, it's very difficult to go from state to state. A therapy or counseling can theoretically be easily transferred to another state and one could read all the literature about adding art and art therapy theories to a practice. Sometimes there are art therapy certifications or post master programs offered but those are also hotly contested. This field is a mess.
Can you please share some examples of the “no you can’t do this, no you can’t do that”? I’d love to know! Thanks!
Any subject is totally fine. It's not good to use the materials in a way to damage them, ie pressing too hard on paint brushes, eating clay, etc. I think one colleague told me that their client wouldn't do artwork because the client always worn new clothes to the sessions.
Do you have a dual license with counseling too or just art therapy?
I have my counseling license. I am working on getting my art therapy recognition (it's not a license in any state) or ATR so I can continue to call myself an art therapist. If I don't get the ATR, my masters in art therapy is mute.
Hello! I realize you don't like art therapy, but my girlfriend is interested and university of florida has a certificate program in it. Just curious, do you know anything about the cert programs vs the MA programs? Also, what is a good assumption of starting pay in the field? Some additional information would be great! Thanks! (hopefully you still keep up with these comments lol)
Greener Side Wellness I didn't realize that some places are still doing the certifications. Certifications are much better because you can be a licensed mental health worker or licensed social worker and get a certification in art therapy. I don't necessarily agree with a master's in art therapy because the starting rate is really low. As far as I can tell the people who are working in the fields average between 20 and $60,000 and work between 40 and 60 hours a week.
@@VanessaLoveCounselor But you said you have your counseling license so aren't you also a Mental Health worker?
@@Marie-vj5pk I'm licensed. Since writing this comment two years ago, there are not certifications in art therapy available anymore. The pay scale remains the same.
@@VanessaLoveCounselor The college I want to attend has a program for Clinical Mental Health Counseling and Art Therapy together. Is that the type of program you had?
@@Marie-vj5pk the school I attended eventually had that. But when I attended, they were not officially approved as a counseling program but as an art therapy program.
Im going to art therapy today after school and im really scared, im mostly scared to show people how i feel and i dont know what to expect.
How did it go?
It went really good!! i got a little sensitive and was about to cry but then she kept asking me questions and i kept talking and she would listen i will have an appointment once every week and i hope i will get better soon :) the therapist also asked my mom some questions about me to see what she can help me with!
@@mmq4017 soo hows it going with the therapy? :)
Hi! I'm a junior in high school and I am planning on going into art therapy as my career path! are there anything you think I should know? thank you so much :-)
I'm not sure. What aspect are you most interested in? I.e. are you interested in private practice? Populations you can work with? What to expect in school?
@@VanessaLoveCounselor thanks for replying! I'm hoping to work with the lgbtq+ community, I think private practice would suit me well but I'm not opposed to other ideas. I'm guess I'm curious as to what to expect in school?
In my grad school experience, I did lots of artwork, research and essays. I can't attest to what other programs are like nor what the program I attended is currently since it's been a decade.
Thank you for this video!! I just graduated with a BFA in Media Art with a minor in psychology. Im really interested in art therapy and I want to go to graduate school for that. Would going to graduate school in counseling work well with that. What do you recommend?
If you'd like to do counseling, then, that is an option. You can check with your state or country to see what the requirements are. If you don't plan on staying in your state or country, check the process for other countries and states. If you need help, you can talk with your college's career counseling center to see what options are best for you. I apologize if this isn't a direct answer. I don't know your full story so I don't feel I can give a definitive answer for you, your likes, your personality, and what your career goals are. Best of luck.
Could you give an example?
On which part?
@@VanessaLoveCounselor on the whole complaint
Interesting take. What's the time stamp on that exact quote?
Hello, I’m a junior in high school and I’m exploring different career options. I was thinking about art therapy (specifically for kids) in hospitals- is that too hard of a field to get into? Is it pretty common? Do you know what qualifications I would need? Thank you so much!
You can find resources at arttherapy.org/becoming-art-therapist/
It's a field that changes often. It depends on your area as to whether there are opportunities in hospitals where you would work with kids.
What do you think you'd like about the career?
@@VanessaLoveCounselor thank you for the information! I think the thing that appeals to me the most is working with kids- I’d like to be able to be a friend to them and help them through art.
Hello. I'm in my AS level year, and I'm looking into becoming an art therapist. I personally do not think A level will benefit me, especially with the subjects I am doing. Do you think I could apply for an art therapy course with just my O-Level and AS Level results?
I can't attest to what is required. The British Association of Art Therapy can help you better understand what's necessary for you to study art therapy.
Hey, So I hold a masters degree in PSychology from India and planning to pick up an art therapy course with some aspect of psychology in it. any suggestions?
I'm not sure if it works the same way, but in the US, we have Continuing Education Credits (CEUs) in Art therapy with particular concentrations like Art Therapy in Grief so we get flyers sent to us about these topics. I watched a good one on RUclips called Art Therapy for Survivors of Sexual Trauma on the Center for Healthy Sex channel.
i am interested in a drastic career change and considering art therapy. there are grievances in most work that i, and most people experience first hand in almost any role- so just to understand what you're saying for someone who is seeking to learn more- medical records are the annoying thing? im not exactly clear.
Other videos also explain the issues with insurances, licenses, title protection and problems in the community.
I’m not much of an artist, could I still do this career?
Most graduate programs require art classes. If you have that requirement fulfilled, you'll be accepted. I apologize that I can't give you direct answers about what career might be good for you as I don't know your history, interests or capabilities. There are career counselors as well as college counselors available in most areas if you want to figure it out.
Look into expressive art therapy like me!
hello I was thinking about becoming an art therapists can you tell me if you regret going into that field
angel sorrentino yes, I do. If I didn't go to a program that also let me get a different license that was covered by insurance, I would be working in a hellish facility. I don't like that I have my masters in this instead of marriage and family therapist or social worker. Its not easy to go across state lines and it's a lot of work for only the recognition of being an art therapist, nothing that makes a significant income for how much is spent on getting the recognition.
Vanessa Love would you recommend someone to go into this field
angel sorrentino it depends on the person. I don't recommend it in its current state. I think a masters in social work or something else works better with the additional trainings in art therapy.
hmmmm
Go for it!!! It is an amazing field. Do research before hand. It doesn't sound like Vanessa did. I have met with so many amazing Art Therapists and they love it!!
Patient keeps original artwork, the therapist should have limited rights to artwork.
That's if the client keeps the work. Often, clients leave work and some clients don't want it around their house because it's fairly personal. It's up to the therapist, what's dictated by ethics and what the client states and understands about the work. Bruce Moon goes over this extensively in his ethics book. He says it belongs to the session.