Did FAST Detect an Alien Signal? Probably not, but still...

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024

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  • @LaunchPadAstronomy
    @LaunchPadAstronomy  2 года назад +10

    🔴 Learn about the message we sent with the Arecibo telescope: ruclips.net/video/5V2KuClix_k/видео.html

  • @QUIRK1019
    @QUIRK1019 2 года назад +106

    Even with 200k subscribers, I think this channel is still a hidden gem. The quality of information, narration, and graphics are on par with RUclips's biggest channels. I hope you keep getting bigger

    • @LaunchPadAstronomy
      @LaunchPadAstronomy  2 года назад +12

      Wow, thank you so much!

    • @QUIRK1019
      @QUIRK1019 2 года назад +6

      ​@@LaunchPadAstronomy You're welcome! I definitely rank this channel up there with the big ones like PBS Space Time or Sci-Show Space

    • @LaunchPadAstronomy
      @LaunchPadAstronomy  2 года назад +7

      I'm honored to be mentioned in the same sentence as those channels!

    • @KaiseruSoze
      @KaiseruSoze 2 года назад +8

      I agree. I have much more confidence in content that is based on observation rather than theory. (PBS spacetime et.al. not so much)

    • @jerrypolverino6025
      @jerrypolverino6025 2 года назад +4

      @@LaunchPadAstronomy I agree.

  • @infinitumneo840
    @infinitumneo840 2 года назад +71

    I like the fact that astronomers from the US and China are working together on these kind of discoveries. One day we will have a radio receiver on the moon. That would be awesome.

    • @ff-qf1th
      @ff-qf1th 2 года назад

      ​@Preston412 I mean yeah the CCP is bad and has done a lot of human rights violations. It's an authoritarian state, what do you expect? But there's nothing wrong with collaborating with China on a scientific basis. International scientific collaborations should be the last thing you care about in this respect. I don't think astronomers are the ones running sweatshops in China.

    • @666chapelofblood
      @666chapelofblood 2 года назад +1

      China did so well with communism.

    • @mj1653
      @mj1653 2 года назад

      Are they though??

    • @maboleth
      @maboleth 2 года назад +1

      It's astonishing how much ignorance and sheer stupidity shines among fellow amateur astronomers that never been to China, let alone know anything outside of junknews.

    • @kayzeaza
      @kayzeaza 2 года назад

      It’s not. Of course it’s a California college that’s doing it. They’re already in Chinas pocket politically

  • @captain_context9991
    @captain_context9991 2 года назад +24

    You know the rules... Its NEVER aliens. Until its aliens, then its aliens. Point being that everything else is more likely than aliens.

    • @lexington476
      @lexington476 2 года назад

      Lets just always says its aliens 🙂.

    • @captain_context9991
      @captain_context9991 2 года назад

      @@lexington476
      Most RUclips channels do that. Its always aliens!!! And when it isnt, they forget about it. Until its aliens again the next time.

    • @Nickelodeon81
      @Nickelodeon81 2 года назад +2

      Ancient alien theorists say yes!

  • @RingoBars
    @RingoBars 2 года назад +13

    Upvoted and watched explicitly because of the anti-clickbaity title.
    Keepin it classy as always, LPA!

  • @dmanagable
    @dmanagable 2 года назад +19

    Great video as always! And a reminder, "It's never aliens until it's aliens." By the way, if you ever take video ideas from random commenters I and I bet a lot of viewers would love to hear about that Nancy Roman Space Telescope which AFAIK is NASA's next great observatory after Webb. Thanks so much for the videos and all you do!

    • @LaunchPadAstronomy
      @LaunchPadAstronomy  2 года назад +7

      Thanks Daniel, RST is certainly on my "to do" list!

    • @dmanagable
      @dmanagable 2 года назад +1

      @@LaunchPadAstronomy Fantastic! I'm sure whenever it comes out it'll be an excellent video. Thanks again!

  • @andyoates8392
    @andyoates8392 2 года назад +6

    Audible “ping”
    “Dude..noodles are ready”

  • @jasoniannone9675
    @jasoniannone9675 2 года назад +4

    You have such a striking way of delivering information. You lead us through the step by step process of falsification in such an elementary way, digging into many practical obstacles that these researchers have to manage. At some point, they run out of ideas or hit the limits of their instrument's capabilities and have to publish as a cry for help. "Global scientific community, please help me get rid of this line!"

    • @HansDunkelberg1
      @HansDunkelberg1 Год назад

      Even if you could with certainty say that you have discovered an alien signal - what would it help? Could you then also already _interpret_ such a signal?

  • @Leo.Wirabuana
    @Leo.Wirabuana 2 года назад +2

    Thank You for reporting China's radio telescope. Salute.

  • @Entropy825
    @Entropy825 2 года назад +6

    I love this channel.

  • @BenitoAndito
    @BenitoAndito 2 года назад +3

    Shoutouts to the Viridis color scheme (and likely python seaborn-derived plots) in the time vs frequency RF heatmaps.

  • @asdf123311
    @asdf123311 2 года назад +3

    I am not saying it was aliens, but it was not aliens

  • @zazugee
    @zazugee 2 года назад +3

    usually i get annoyed by "it's not aliens", as if it's the only reasonable assumption they can come up with, but your explanation was very helpful, i had no idea those radio telescopes gets thousands of signals very often (false positives)
    i always thoughts that SETI worked the other way around

  • @brucegelman5582
    @brucegelman5582 2 года назад +1

    Pray we are never discovered by another civilization.DINNER TIME

  • @aaronsmith4940
    @aaronsmith4940 2 года назад +1

    All the UAP stuff is happening across the world so not surprising China's looking too.

  • @benmorgan59
    @benmorgan59 2 года назад +1

    wonder if fast was featured in the film Cable guy with Jim Carrey lol

  • @daviddean707
    @daviddean707 2 года назад +1

    To have strengthened their candidacy must be the goal of every alien civilization.

  • @KentheDeer
    @KentheDeer 2 года назад +3

    Quiet interesting info! Thank you for explaining things in a clear, concise, and easy-to-follow manner, Mr. Ready. Always look forward to your videos!😊

  • @safe-keeper1042
    @safe-keeper1042 2 года назад +2

    The opposite of clickbait -- you say right in the title that this is probably not what we're all hoping for. Then the video itself is divided into chapters so we can easily navigate to the part we're interested in if we don't feel like watching it from beginning to end. More YT channels should be like this.

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 2 года назад +2

    Did anyone check the microwave in the break room 🙂?

  • @pepe6666
    @pepe6666 Год назад +1

    'hey i think i found aliens!' 'not so FAST'

  • @IlIlIlIlIlIlIIlIlIlIlIlIlIIIII
    @IlIlIlIlIlIlIIlIlIlIlIlIlIIIII 2 года назад +1

    I would suggest an improved mic. The audio causes fatigue it is so tinny. Excellent channel otherwise, thanks.

    • @LaunchPadAstronomy
      @LaunchPadAstronomy  2 года назад

      Thanks! Audio has always been my most frustrating thing. Happy for any audio hardware.

  • @TheSpiritoftheCocktail
    @TheSpiritoftheCocktail 2 года назад +9

    CHRISTIAN!! This was fascinating!!! I cant even imagine how the world would react if we actually found a real alien signal. Great video as always!!!

    • @LaunchPadAstronomy
      @LaunchPadAstronomy  2 года назад +1

      Thanks buddy:)

    • @selfworthy
      @selfworthy 2 года назад +2

      it will be, oh, ok, interesting, anyways. Because people are too much caught up in their lifes and problems.

    • @SMaamri78
      @SMaamri78 2 года назад +1

      @selfworthy …. I agree. Most people are too concerned about their favorite celebrity or what the Kardashians are doing to give much of a hoot. To me, it would be a view changing event since I tend to think we are alone.

    • @fabiorodrigo3638
      @fabiorodrigo3638 2 года назад +1

      I recommend reading a sci fi called "The Three Body Problem". It's fiction but it shows the most plausible scenario about what would happen if we receive a signal. Little spoiler: it doesn't have a nice ending.

    • @TheSpiritoftheCocktail
      @TheSpiritoftheCocktail 2 года назад

      @@fabiorodrigo3638 HA!!! I'm still going to grab a copy!!! Thanks!!!

  • @muheniathili5414
    @muheniathili5414 2 года назад +4

    It might be true ... I got that signal too...

    • @ff-qf1th
      @ff-qf1th 2 года назад

      what? do you own a personal FAST?

  • @tankerock
    @tankerock 2 года назад +1

    accurate titles i'd actually click on and watch

  • @justexactlyperfectbrothersband
    @justexactlyperfectbrothersband 2 года назад +1

    I hope its not Vogons bursting with poetry.

  • @goldwingerppg5953
    @goldwingerppg5953 2 года назад +1

    I went to Green Bank Observatory on Friday and I highly recommend it. Make sure you buy tickets before you go, they sell out fast. I learned a lot, like it was the GBT that discovered Sag A.

  • @pipertripp
    @pipertripp 2 года назад +2

    congrats on passing the 200K subscriber mark!

  • @DON.229
    @DON.229 2 года назад +2

    Always nice informative videos keep it up and keep making knowledgeable videos

  • @badartgallery9322
    @badartgallery9322 2 года назад +1

    I really like this guy.

  • @free_spirit1
    @free_spirit1 2 года назад

    Great! Now watch astronomers ignore this signal for the next 20 years, then point the telescope back and say "see, it didn't repeat!"

  • @physicslover1950
    @physicslover1950 2 года назад

    I hope you are making a video on the Webb's first images... Please also demosntrate the corresponding MIRI images of all the four images taken by webb.. Also please tell that which color represnets the most energetic (high frequency) short wavelength light and whichcolor represents the least energetic (low frequency) longer wavelength light in both NIRcam and MIRI images... I am only confused by the blue purple and green color in the MIRI images; there are no purple and green stars then why so much purple , blue and green color in MIRI images... Furthermore , Nasa recently released yellow orange and red colored NIRcam and MIRI images of Jupiter... Which are absolutely making no sense... Why they haven't used all the seven colors for the depiction of different wavelengths in the Jupiter image?
    Will we ever get the colored image of Jupiter?
    Please clear these misconceptions in your next video on Webb's first images..
    One more question
    Will Webb give us answer to the question: Whether we live in an open universe or a closed universe?

  • @shdii4132
    @shdii4132 2 года назад +1

    i love your channel

  • @darrylpioch2055
    @darrylpioch2055 2 года назад

    1.14GHz with a bandwidth of only 1Hz is artificial. That’s a perfectly tuned RF signal. If it is interference can’t they just figure out if one of their pieces of equipment is operating at 1.14GHz and rule it in or out? Help me understand

  • @kathykline7202
    @kathykline7202 Год назад

    "Watch 581D" " Last of 5" - thats what Wow signals says, and I never heard of 581D so I couldnt have made this up. Thats what the 2nd and 3rd WOW messages say. I wont say the first one. There were 3 not 1, wasnt there? Maybe not at same time. They ciphered them all, but what they did, was use a variety of earth languages, sometimes, right in the middle of the cipher. This is what they say in English. All the public has heard of was the first one.

  • @AdultZechez
    @AdultZechez 2 года назад +1

    Best of the best

  • @timminh468
    @timminh468 2 года назад

    "Probably not Aliens"
    My fellow humans, this is the reason why we haven't detected a single Alien signal in decades...

  • @25jessieg
    @25jessieg 2 года назад

    Probably a washing machine in Albuquerque they're picking up :)

  • @ramiromunoz7168
    @ramiromunoz7168 2 года назад

    The Thing is that sígnals most probabably are not attempts
    To comunicAte
    But residual activity not necesary trying to reach us… really nature behaviour of the electro magnetic spectrum is easaly distinguible

  • @ibluap
    @ibluap 2 года назад

    It's funny! They spend such a long time trying to find any ET signal in the sky, and when they finally find it, They don't believe it actually is ET!

  • @allthingsdestructive
    @allthingsdestructive 2 года назад +1

    Do not answer! Do not answer! Do not answer!

  • @olips2010
    @olips2010 2 года назад +2

    Another Great Video 👍🪐🌙🌖 This channel should have millions of subscribers 🌙🪐💫💯

  • @Chmee2
    @Chmee2 2 года назад +1

    Very nicely done movie, thank you a lot for it.

  • @takanara7
    @takanara7 Год назад

    If the source was a planet, wouldn't it's frequency also drift due to the movement of it's planet, as well as earth?

  • @peterw1534
    @peterw1534 2 года назад +1

    Loved the video! Concise and informative as always. So after all our work at radio silence on the hydrogen line we somehow made a telescope that can perfectly fool itself with a fake signal (from itself) right on the hydrogen line? With all the hallmarks were looking for? Also with respect to the habitable zone and liquid water, a huge caveat is that you also have to have a substantial atmosphere. Seems like no one ever mentions this. The moon is in the habitable zone and liquid water can't exist there because it has no atmosphere. Atmospheric density also plays a huge role with respect to distance from the star and liquid water. I know the habitable zone is just a ballpark but atmosphere is at least half the equation and is never mentioned.

    • @LaunchPadAstronomy
      @LaunchPadAstronomy  2 года назад +1

      I'm glad you liked the video :) And yes, point well taken that just because a planet is in the habitable zone, it doesn't mean it actually has water. An insufficient atmosphere would be a very good reason.

  • @PUNKMYVIDEO
    @PUNKMYVIDEO 2 года назад

    Am I going to watch the whole video? Probably not!

  • @isbestlizard
    @isbestlizard 2 года назад +1

    What makes signals 'interesting'? How is their interestingness quantified?

  • @christianobrandao9972
    @christianobrandao9972 2 года назад +1

    Great video my friend! One of the best about the subject! Keep on rocking in the astronomy world Christian!

  • @josmeproslonije724
    @josmeproslonije724 Год назад

    Trying to find intelligent live on other planets isn't all that challenging. Try finding intelligent life in serbia! I dare you!

  • @Релёкс84
    @Релёкс84 2 года назад +2

    Wow I'm early

    • @ivan-Croatian
      @ivan-Croatian 2 года назад +1

      Well, I'm not as early as you, but nevertheless, I'm early enough!

  • @mmenjic
    @mmenjic 2 года назад

    1:59 the red dwarfs are not habitable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But planets around them could be !

  • @bobbymac1947
    @bobbymac1947 2 года назад

    how come no one tries to decode the signal? If this is the signal, then it will include information.

  • @pogo30pago
    @pogo30pago 2 года назад +1

    Donation to Seti donne!

  • @Rudderify
    @Rudderify 2 года назад

    The signal the Chinese ‘received’ was from someone who opened the microwave door before the timer stopped as he was heating up lunch.

  • @Seekthetruth3000
    @Seekthetruth3000 2 года назад

    Did the Chinese use any slave labor in making this dish?

  • @mmenjic
    @mmenjic 2 года назад

    7:24 is that why it is called fast ? very creative if it is 😂🤦‍♂️

  • @EnglishMike
    @EnglishMike 2 года назад +1

    Wouldn't polar telescopes on the Moon be a better option? There's a bunch of craters located near the poles that are in permanent darkness and yet are mere meters away from almost permanent sunlight, the perfect source for powering any telescopes and other equipment within the crater.
    The deeper parts of these craters are also shielded from RF interference from Earth (and the Sun!), but again, a judiciously positioned radio antenna outside the crater walls would provide continued communications with Earth without requiring them to be bounced off a satellite.

    • @TuNguyen-vu1cg
      @TuNguyen-vu1cg 2 года назад

      Actually no, because polar telescopes can't see anything out of the direction of the pole, and that's bad

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 2 года назад

      Just put them on the far side, larger sky.

  • @ricoreyes6044
    @ricoreyes6044 2 года назад

    I wonder how strong this signal was, just as a general point of reference.
    If it was an omnidirectional transmission from Kepler 438b, what's the order of magnitude of the transmitter power? Megawatts?
    Also, I wonder, would we even notice our own civilization in a mirrored SETI search? Doesn't seem likely, we just make a lot of relatively low power noise all over the spectrum. Nothing that'd make a big bright narrowband trace on an alien spectrograph, like the ones we're looking for.

  • @mmenjic
    @mmenjic 2 года назад

    don't you think if they wanted for us to hear them we would ?

  • @Jessicatt88
    @Jessicatt88 2 года назад

    Clicked away at….or not probably not….but good job on to the next alien video thanks for not wasting my time

    • @EnglishMike
      @EnglishMike 2 года назад +1

      Shame. It's a very interesting and educational video. Very much worth your time.

  • @hanisultan179
    @hanisultan179 2 года назад

    thanks for the video sir ... thanks for upload

  • @awsumguy-bh9pz
    @awsumguy-bh9pz 2 года назад

    wait doesnt proxima have 3 planets u said 2

  • @DangerDave-e7u
    @DangerDave-e7u 2 года назад +1

    👽📻🌊

  • @fstopPhotography
    @fstopPhotography 2 года назад +1

    With the ever increasing global satellite, Space X, won't that interfere with these audio-observations like the one you spoke of in China?

    • @LaunchPadAstronomy
      @LaunchPadAstronomy  2 года назад

      They're supposed to broadcast outside of the frequency range reserved for astronomy but it's hard to completely avoid spilling into that range on occasion. So yeah, it'll probably get worse :(

    • @fstopPhotography
      @fstopPhotography 2 года назад +1

      @@LaunchPadAstronomy
      Lol.
      Thanks
      Love the videos BTW. I've learned so much watching them.
      Take Care.

  • @rodnee2340
    @rodnee2340 2 года назад

    This is China we are talking about...

  • @Jimmy-B-
    @Jimmy-B- 2 года назад

    Have you seen the new pictures from James Webb, not impressed at all.

  • @splodge561
    @splodge561 2 года назад

    Chinese state media? Oh it must be true then!😂

  • @jerrypolverino6025
    @jerrypolverino6025 2 года назад +1

    Very good video. Thank you.

  • @JurassicJenkins
    @JurassicJenkins 2 года назад

    If the signal was “internal” why is it only present when targeting Kepler 438? Or am I just missing something?

  • @DDG2023
    @DDG2023 2 года назад

    "You're a red dwarf, man!" - Creed

  • @OlichkaNesterova
    @OlichkaNesterova 2 года назад

    So we need a radio telescope on the moon

  • @Laszlo34
    @Laszlo34 2 года назад

    "FAST is slow..." Hmmmm.....

  • @sarthmotaphale2597
    @sarthmotaphale2597 2 года назад +1

    Hello all i am in tenth grade confused that which enginnering field should i take please comment this this one to let me know and why........................ i am very serious about this ..............
    Thank you in advance and see my fav subj. is maths :)

    • @StrongerThanBigfoot
      @StrongerThanBigfoot 2 года назад +1

      Whatever you feel most pulled to

    • @Big_Tex
      @Big_Tex 2 года назад

      You’ve got plenty of time to figure it out. You can change you major if you change your mind and that’s still years away. None of us can tell you what you should do. I’d think at this point you should just focus on mastering math and computer programming as well as you can.

    • @muheniathili5414
      @muheniathili5414 2 года назад

      In my opinion don't take engineering .. rather focus on pure physics

    • @sarthmotaphale2597
      @sarthmotaphale2597 2 года назад

      @@Big_Tex heyy thank you big bro

    • @maths4noobs
      @maths4noobs 2 года назад

      What is your favourite subject?

  • @mahokhan9122
    @mahokhan9122 2 года назад

    I'M PARI Son 👽

  • @Wave1dave
    @Wave1dave 2 года назад

    "It's not aliens, until it is aliens."
    - Matt O'Dowd, PBS Space Time

  • @hoekbrwr
    @hoekbrwr 2 года назад

    I am interested in many things so I spend little time on a lot of interesting science facts. Therefore I appreciate this video for its high concentration of information in a very clear format. A short one but most probably a lot of work to produce all those fragments. As it is for the scientists to deal with over a million signals and then sifting out only 1 interesting subject.

  • @sachiperez
    @sachiperez 2 года назад

    The last 6 years have been so wild, that I don’t for a minute doubt that it is “aliens”!

  • @geophat75
    @geophat75 2 года назад

    What was the verdict on BLC-1 in 2020? The proxima centauri signal. Was it ruled by the scientific community as inconclusive after peer review?

  • @dosomething3
    @dosomething3 2 года назад

    0:49 “ Even if it does get published it’s by no means conclusive” you mean it is scientific. Science is never conclusive. Science is always self speculative.

  • @dosomething3
    @dosomething3 2 года назад

    0:43 “but it hasn’t been accepted for publication yet“ so how did you read it?

    • @EnglishMike
      @EnglishMike 2 года назад

      Scientists can publish a "preprint" version of their paper while it is still undergoing peer review. Good reasons for doing this are for time-sensitive research (e.g. many of the papers about Covid-19 were preprinted to help inform and guide other teams in their efforts to understand the disease and how to combat it), and to help control the flow on information when word of more controversial or newsworthy research (like this one) leaks out leading to lots of ill-informed speculation. Of course, preprints can be used by more unscrupulous scientists who, for example, know their paper won't pass peer review, but want to make a splash anyway for less-than ethical purposes --- like promoting fake cures for Covid...

  • @vimalramachandran
    @vimalramachandran 2 года назад

    How far away is Kepler-438?

    • @Релёкс84
      @Релёкс84 2 года назад

      It took be 12 seconds to look it up. Can you beat that?

    • @vimalramachandran
      @vimalramachandran 2 года назад

      @@Релёкс84 I know, but it would have been even better had he given that info upfront coz he was talking about it anyway.

  • @yourstruly4817
    @yourstruly4817 2 года назад

    If we were somehow able to build a big radio telescope on the farside of the Moon, would it be much easier to discover signals?

  • @peters616
    @peters616 2 года назад

    There seems to be a problem with explaining the waterfall signal from Kepler 238 as coming from the instrument based on matching polarization. That is -- you would not expect the signal from the instrument itself to be a waterfall signal - as you point out, you can get a waterfall from the Doppler effect of a moving satellite or airplane but not from a stationary component in the instrument. Also the fact that just the central detector registered that signal also tends to distinguish the instrument itself generating it, as all the detectors should have detected it. Is the polarization detection relatively new? If so I'd check if that was working correctly.

    • @peters616
      @peters616 2 года назад

      Kepler 438

    • @Релёкс84
      @Релёкс84 2 года назад

      Perturbations from unstabilized sources like microwaves can drift in a similar fashion to this, and while it's improbable that it would drift in just the same way a Doppler shift would look like, it's not impossible. Also I said microwaves but don't actually expect them to be as narrow banded as this.

  • @lexington476
    @lexington476 2 года назад

    Don't leave us hanging. What are the Waterhole frequencies? And why would civilization to drink water look there?

    • @LaunchPadAstronomy
      @LaunchPadAstronomy  2 года назад +3

      1420 to 1720 MHz. It spans the range of frequencies for hydrogen (H) and hydroxyl (HO), so the hypothesis was that since these two molecules combine to form water, and since it's also in a naturally quiet part of the radio spectrum, that might be a good range to broadcast in.

    • @manw3bttcks
      @manw3bttcks 2 года назад

      I has nothing to with drinking water. It's because water in the intersteller medium absorbs in that wavelength so it's handy for telescopes to look in that band since there's less noise.

  • @usptact
    @usptact 2 года назад +1

    It’s another microwave. Relax.

    • @ff-qf1th
      @ff-qf1th 2 года назад +1

      why are you saying "relax"? no-one is freaking out about this. This is a SETI thing, we're looking for aliens. Here's a possible signal. let's talk about why it's probably not aliens, and what evidence would be needed for something to more likely be extraterrestrial- perfectly reasonable science communication. Please stop projecting

  • @BrainDamageBrian
    @BrainDamageBrian 2 года назад

    can we please start to pronounce the first R in "temperature"?

  • @chrisholdread174
    @chrisholdread174 2 года назад

    How much money do we need to raise to rebuild Arecibo?

    • @EnglishMike
      @EnglishMike 2 года назад

      They're not going to rebuild Arecibo. If they reuse the site, it will be for a completely different radio telescope with far greater capabilities than the original. As for cost, nobody knows unless or until the new specs have been completely, and that depends on what the astronomers want and how much Congress is willing to put toward the project. Puerto Rico doesn't have anyone representing it in Congress, so it's going to be an uphill battle.

    • @DucaTech
      @DucaTech 2 года назад

      All the money will be directed to the MIC and Ukraine War

  • @666chapelofblood
    @666chapelofblood 2 года назад

    It's unrealistic to assume that there's no other civilisations out there capable of our technological advancement.

    • @EnglishMike
      @EnglishMike 2 года назад +2

      True, but unfortunately, it's not that unrealistic to believe there's none within reach of our telescopes. We could easily be the only technological civilization within a thousand light years of here.

    • @666chapelofblood
      @666chapelofblood 2 года назад

      @@EnglishMike They wouldn't be detected through telescopes, they'd be detected through radio signals. There could be civilisations out there right now like ours and there hasn't been enough time for those radio signals to travel to Earth.

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 2 года назад

      @@666chapelofblood There is also the problem of inverse square law. Any signals to be picked up by our dishes would need to be VERY powerful. A civilization like ours 1000 ly away would be undetectable from here.

    • @EnglishMike
      @EnglishMike 2 года назад

      ​@@666chapelofblood Radio telescopes are a thing too you know :)

    • @EnglishMike
      @EnglishMike 2 года назад

      @@TheEvilmooseofdoom I suspect any transmitting civilization that wanted to be found would use more than one transmission. The first would be a powerful but basic (though unmistakable) "we are here" signal, telling use where to point our most sensitive instruments. The second would be data rich requiring much more sophisticated and sensitive receiving equipment, perhaps even beyond our current capabilities.
      You can bet that if we're pinged by the former, we'd be investing a massive amount of time energy and resources to detect the latter.
      Yes, we're talking about very powerful transmitters, but then what else is an advanced alien civilization to do if they're lonely and want something new to study?

  • @DanSlotea
    @DanSlotea 2 года назад

    If the signal is not from Earth or Earth-made objects, than it's alen for sure, no doubt. Whether it"s natural or artificial, is the question.

    • @EnglishMike
      @EnglishMike 2 года назад

      Typically "alien" means artificial in this context, with "natural" being the opposite.

  • @filesopen6188
    @filesopen6188 2 года назад

    Clickbate!! 13:06

  • @dosomething3
    @dosomething3 2 года назад

    0:18 “probably not” can you show please the calculation of the probability?

    • @EnglishMike
      @EnglishMike 2 года назад

      The answer is at the end of the video.

  • @curiousuranus810
    @curiousuranus810 2 года назад

    Probably not, but still...... let's all indulge in massive baseless speculation and wet-dream wish forefilment.

  • @samsonsoturian6013
    @samsonsoturian6013 2 года назад +1

    The thing about the Chinese dish is this is the first time we heard from it since they built the thing and they only have it to one-up the US so it's not clear how well it works.
    Also, they rushed to publish the signal's detection before they even checked what it was.

    • @samsonsoturian6013
      @samsonsoturian6013 2 года назад

      @EMAN67:RP forum Dude, this is a matter of Chinese culture. People have often gone into deep debt to obtain prestige items and is by far the largest consumer of luxury goods. They lack the equipment to build capital ships but go to great lengths to build a carrier they don't need simply because the US has 11 of them. So YES, they'd totally build a dish just to one up the US. This can be confirmed by how the ONLY innovation in China's dish was it was a little bigger than the American one operational at the time, but was otherwise off the shelf tech. They built this dish even as new tech rendered it obsolete as these days there are algorithms that allow two synced up smaller dishes to act as one enormous dish.

    • @nishitd
      @nishitd 2 года назад +1

      Can't rule that out. Chinese want to engage in oneupmanship even at the cost of science. Winnie the Pooh gotta be "the leader"

    • @thegreencan1286
      @thegreencan1286 2 года назад

      @@nishitd Oh yeah? Chinese breakthrough in science? Disctatorship. CHinA bAd. F⚛️ck you.

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 2 года назад +1

      This is the first YOU have heard of it. They've been doing and publishing from there for years. You need to see the world a little past the tip of your own nose otherwise you risk making a fool of yourself again.