Code Geass R2: Checkmate - Extra Detailed TL Notes Edition
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- Опубликовано: 11 апр 2014
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TL Note: Schneizel just made an illegal move in chess, so it doesn't make sense that he could say checkmate, he might possibly say check but the use of the term here is wrong. The only way this could be a legal move is if this were blitz chess, also known as "Fast Chess". However, in this scene, it is never declared they are playing "Fast Chess", and neither of the players are using clocks to time their turns in the game. (Source: /a/)
TL Note 2: The reason why Schneizel did this is because the game was going to turn into a threefold rep. By pulling this illegal move, he is able to gain insight into Zero's personality, and "un-mask" part of him, thus fulfilling his victory condition in a subtle and Schneizel-ish manner. To look at the picture more properly, think of the chess board not as a game but as a battlefield. Zero's other options were to take his King, which would have made him similar to his father, or to call Schneizel out on making an illegal move, which would have made Zero look dumb since "lol rules of war". What Zero chose to do was keep his pride and run away from a free victory. Furthermore, by placing his King behind a pawn instead of any other open tile, Zero symbolically shows cowardice.
TL Note 3: Alternatively read like this: [aers | laptop] Well personally I think the symbolism in Schneizel moving his king is that he wants to be buddy-buddy with Zero. And that Zero moving behind the pawn is because he is afraid of Schneizel's advances. (Geass is about yaoi and shit, so the likelihood of aers being correct is somewhere over 9000.)
TL Note 4: This scene is interesting because it raises the question of whether or not Schneizel "plays dirty" in bed with Canon. :3 
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Judging by Schneizel's knowledge of the rules of chess, if he was capable of beating Lelouch 8 years ago, Lelouch must have been really, really bad at chess.
HAHAHAHA
He's knowingly breaking the rules here my dude.
The chess here is not real chess, it's a metaphorical clash between Schneizel and Lelouch.
@@bilalahmedsiddiqui9639 no, I think they' just don't get the rules. That's why the positions make no sense.
@@seankrkovich2869 bro, Lelouch and his brother are the smartest characters in this anime, you'd think they won't know how to play chess?
Rules of chess:
Am I a joke to you?
Screw the rules, i'm rich
Chess is a metaphor for war and conflict in this show, and as we all know, sometimes there's no rules in war.
You are right only 70%
Is it good idea to sac your Greatest Leader also the one came up strategies just to get your opps personality and mindset?
Ofc not 💀
After all this time, I just realized that he is saying checkmate to himself lol
After all this time? Always?
*One guy from all the way in the corner of the room*
"Y- you can't do that in chess, that's not lega-"
*SHOT*
thats illegal but if the other player move also he is doing another illegal movement so illegal + illegal= the game is still on
+Spirit the guy must be from a different universe
@@lFakundo9999 we can say both Player doesn't know the rules of chess.
The chess speaks for itself. The beads must have vibrated so hard that Schneizel was unable to control his movement and directly put his king in front of Lelouch's king.
Schneizel did a double illegal move: 1 - A King can't stood an adjacent tile near to the opponent's King for obvious reasons; 2 - Schneizel moved his King into Lelouch's pawn's capture zone, putting it in check.
I believe the game was already ended in a draw, Schnitzel was fooling around.
Even if he did not and made it as a legit move, Britannian chess might not have that rule and instead allowing the king to be captured. That would certainly seem like something Britannia could do when you think about where the rules about capturing the king being illegal comes from.
Instead you should complain about pieces magically appearing and disappearing and both players playing like morons.
that's same rule: can't move king into position under attack
it doesn't matter what piece is attacking it
Yea
@@lunedefroid8817 He wasn't just fooling around
"If I take his invitation, it means giving in to his plan," Yes, and? His plan is stupid, and he threw the game. Screw his plan.
Right 😂
@@kirtisoni448 not right
they both are seeking to be superior to one another through the challenge, You can't see ur self better if he gave it to you as if it were nothing. in fact it will be him looking down to you
@@a.muhammad3850 So what? He was going to use the Geass anyway.
@@MrJimmyist did you miss the fact that Lelouch is prideful and theatrical, and repeatedly chooses less than optimal options for these reasons?
did u even get the symbolism? TL note there is no rules in war. lol
The way I see it, and Lelouch brings it up again when he meets Schneizel for the last time -- Schneizel was always willing to sacrifice his own kingdom for his own purposes. Him getting rid of the "king" in the chess board was only to see what Lelouch would do in reality, as he wanted to know what kind of person was behind the mask. Lelouch knew that Schneizel was testing him with that move, so he retreated -- basically avoiding conflict with Britannia and the Chinese Federation at that moment; had he taken the king, Schneizel would most likely had his guards fire on Zero instead (and not give over Suzaku). Lelouch realized that, so he backed off -- which Schneizel found amusing, and hence backed off too. Schneizel probably would have enjoyed seeing bloodshed, as he didn't care -- and that's why Lelouch got upset at him; Schneizel is always looking down on everyone -- he doesn't care so long as he gets his desired outcome -- which was to force everyone into slavery and rule from top when all the dust settled. That's why he came up with the Fleija plan too, he had no concern for human life, everyone was expendable, it was always about control. I guess the chess game is symbolism -- Lelouch is ready to protect his people/kingdom, while Schneizel is ready to dispose of his people/kingdom -- both for the sake of winning.
That's also why he planned to self destruct the bombs with Nunally still there.
2:17 Wait. That's illegal.
Everyone was like "His king can capture the enemy king"
That one pawn chilling on the tile next to Lelouch's king: Am I a joke to you?
To capture the King in Chess is as Illegal as putting the your own king on check.
@@cybercorenirvana2904 Is it actually a rule? I just know that a rule like that would be redundant considering you're not allowed to spend a turn in check
@@clashthegamer4873 on each turn. Each player has to make a legal move. If there is no legal move available, then the game ended in a draw.
You mean the pawn that magically appeared that wasn't there at 1:47?
@@clashthegamer4873 if you make a illegal moves but your opponent didn’t do anything and then he makes a illegal move, he will lose the game
1:34 Hikaru when playing Bongcloud
So does Magnus!!
1:38 Magnus as well.
Who came here after watching "Chess King sacrifice"? Anyone?
still trying to find the original video, no idea how i stumbled upon this
@@sebastianstark3224 same 😂😂
King sacrifice, epic title😂
@@user-ib1up1hm9x ruclips.net/video/Mg9000GMj74/видео.html
@@sebastianstark3224 Thx ❤️
*TL Note 0:* "Keikaku" means plan.
what's this episode
Death Note xD
LOL
王から動かないと部下はついてこない
くそかっこいいな
In a world where King pieces can just teleport themselves into a loss.
1:46 down a knight and three pawns
'tHey aRe evEnLy mAtcHeD'
Tay pang shiang they were just because your down pieces doesn’t mean your gonna lose u might have a slight disadvantage but winning is still likely with good play people have won games with less
Lelouch is magnus Carlsen so it's even 😂
@@manamitsuki3851 nope this is losing lelouch does ot have any compensation for the lost material and schneizel has connected past pawns on both sides so its losing for lelouch
@@arthchawla6283 yet he won . Speaks for itself
@@manamitsuki3851 well its anime so..........
This shit was fun and I'm glad I was there for the /a/ threads.
ルルーシュが唯一 チェス で
勝てなかった 相手 シュナイゼル
三日月夜空 マオはちょっと違くね？
Nice analysis!
このチェス回好き
シュナイゼルのような温厚で物腰柔らかく理知的で一見非の打ち所がない良い人に見えるが、実は非情で冷酷な一面もあるみたいなキャラすごく好きだな
シュナイゼルを呼び捨てにしても、あなたと言うとこ好き
The explination of this move is quite easy to understand. Schniezel is somebody who wants victory. In this scene there is a draw game between the two players. This is why Schneizel concede to Zero, but he gives to Zero a victory by his own choice. Zero can't take this easy win, because it's a victory gives by Schneizel from his own. Zero makes miracle and brings victory against opponents stronger than him. But now it's not a spectacular victory. Lelouch goes back because Zero's personnality can't just take victory and results without miracle.
Illegal move.
When the fansubbers put more thought into the scene than the writers
この時点でシュナイゼル気づいてるような気がする
たしかに。
気づいてもいないのに
単なるプライドで負ける危険を冒すシュナイゼルじゃないよな
最終話でシュナイゼルは常に負けない所で
ゲームをするって言ってたからシュナイゼル
からすれば負けないと思ってたんでしょうね。
つまりゼロのことをよく知っている.......
シュナイゼル殿下の声いい
The king move was illegal (lol), and nobody should ever bring their king out until the endgame unless there are special circumstances. Also, the bishop move G2-F3 at 1:47 was pointless, it gained literally no new useful squares to attack and no tempo. *Edit, How did he get a pawn on his kingside when clearly there was none before?
zepeterinma different world, dofferent chess
Bryce Richardson nope the animators just got lazy these moves would make sense if the pieces moved differently which they don't
No, if you're gonna use chess as a pretentious tool to portray the "intelect" of your characters at least follow the rules.
You should defiantly bring out your king in the endgame. Basic theory.
Ye ik this is totally bullshit, i did like to see their opening and middlegame
実際これ先に開き直ったシュナイゼルの負けだよな
その悪い癖のせいで後にギアスをかけられてしまった…。
KEIJI JUNKNESS 天才かよ
the foreshadowing is real
That was Illegal Move even in Blitz game.
1:47ではどう見てもゼロが負けてるけど、2:31ではゼロが優勢になってるｗ
1:47scene indicates that Zero will lose, but 2:31scene explains that Zero has more advantage.
ギアスだよ(白目)
Putting the illegal move aside, there are also pieces popping in and out of the board somehow. Mostly black pawns
オデュッセウス「唯一勝てる可能性があるとすれば...亡くなってしまった弟になるね、残念だよ。」
それって…クロヴィス？
ルルじゃね？
@@user-ct6lh8th5e 過大評価とかのレベルじゃなくてwww
Legend said they make Live Action to this scene
2:17でめっちゃ長い英文流れてくっそ笑ったw
yes, i agree very much.
@@BLaCkKsHeEp ゆああさつぴとまん
2:17 It's a bit illegal
Code Geass treats actual chess much like Yu-gi-oh treats actual Yu-gi-oh.
Basically
The match was going to end in a draw.
- Schneizel instead of letting it end that way , did a mind game and pulled an illegal move by offering his King to Lelouch, thereby offering to let Lelouch win.
- Lelouch's mindset : if he takes the win it would subconsciously looks like he is "taking Schneizel's offer" and would look like a sign of submission.
- instead of taking the win, Lelouch moves his king away instead out of pride.
So instead of ending it in a draw, at least Schneizel learned something about Zero's personality by comparing it with the Emperor's.
To Lelouch's dismay of course.
Ah yes, the infamous “king’s gambit”
2:10 chexkmating yourself is illegal in chess
Vidit played this strategy against Hikaru
友達に同じことやったらあっさり取りやがった
Xeno 2013 屈服したな
Xeno 2013 胸を張れ。友達を屈服させたんだぞ？
ルルーシュが勝ったらスザク頂くことに
なってたから、シュナイゼルがわざと
キングを出したときにスザクは心の中で
ドッキドキだったでしょうねw
Lelouch: if I win I'd like to have sir kururugi
Kallen: say what
I would allowed the Pawn to take the king and thus allow the Subordinate to claim victory.
And we transpose in the kings sacrifice declined
*down a million points of material*
"They're evenly matched!"
2:46 シャルル「わーい！」
I think the point of this is that if Zero's king took the white king, then Zero's 'pawns' would take him - kind of foreshadowing the ending
This is such a Shneizel move.
It was auto loss for schnizel regardless of zero's next move because the king and the pawn were hitting the wht king so he couldn't avoid it in just 1 move.
l saw the move as resigning just to disrespect the thought that they were in the same level, schniezel preferred to throw the game in an outlandish way. Eventhough Zero won, his pride was damaged.
I mean no way that should have happened since schniezel had so many more pieces and the fact zero pulled a pawn out of his ass since it wasn't there at 1:47
This is a right state
lets just say that they change the rule of chess in this anime
Rules aside.
Lelouch should've gone for it. He'll get Suzaku and will give his brother a false info about himself. It's a winning situation, but no, he chose his ego over it.
I don't know if Schneizel was going to respect the agreement made.
1:47 black is losing, but in the next scene the girl said they r equal, they dont even know how to play chess
This whole show is stupid lol.
@Blue Silver
I don't need to when it's trash from the start.
Schneizel isn't playing to win the game, he's playing to win the game going on outside the game.
When he called checkmate he was calling it on himself
Schneizel way of saying life is not just a chess he's willing to do illegal move or cheat to destroy he's opponent .
He did it to read how zero/lelouch way of thinking or what kind of person it is .
Where did you get the video from?!?!? I am an AMV maker and I need this kind of videos. Can you or anyone in this section please tell me?
If you're still interested it is from Code Geass S2 E9
Well, he was the son of the emperor. Maybe he changed the rule of chess
If a king doesn't lead how he can except his subordinate to follow
What kind of rules they're this chess with
At 2:46 schneizel found that zero is a revenger not an emperor ( just I think )
Well, it's kind of good to see some animes trying to make sense on chess but those are some of the worst moves since falling victim to a three move end game. Whoever wrote this is probably more into Shogi. The game is more close to Shogi but with different rules when it comes to the pawns who attack diagonally when it comes to neutralizing the opposer because they can't attack horizontally.
The true Kings Gamble.
Season 2 episode 9
I agree on TL Note 4
ルール無視してて笑える
キングで白のキングを取るのが嫌ならポーンで取れば良くない？
How excited Kaguya got. She is so cute;-)
he does not even need to move a king! A pawn on the right would do the job.
皇帝陛下〜の下りあたりでZEROの正体がルルーシュって気づいてそうだよな…
2:16 wait where did that pawn on a6 come from? It wasn’t there at 1:47
I cant believe that I thought it was a smart move when I was 6
When you don't know how to play chess
But you act like you do
Obviously the chess clocks are off screen to the side lol
I don't get why people question the chess scenes in Code Geass when it could all be easily justified in-universe that the chess they developed had slightly different rules and extra nuances than the chess we grew up playing.
and with which rules would that move be possibly anything other than giving up? also is lelouch moving his pawn to his ground line? even if this is legal what possible benefits can he gain. i highly doubt they play edgeless chess
Well, in Code Geass' version of Chess there could be unique interactions on King vs. King checkmates.
You definitely seem knowledgeable on Chess, but your saying "I highly doubt they play edgeless chess" sort of proves my original point, that people are assuming what version of Chess is played in Code Geass when we have no clue how the game rules developed in their universe.
PandaJerk007 ridiculous king checking another king wouldn't result in a check mate cause both kings would be in check that makes no sense
PandaJerk007 they just got lazy here
PandaJerk007 It would not work well
If the king doesn't lead, how can he expect his subordinates to follow... fine philosophy!!!!!
This is a tutorial for - How not to play chess.
なんでチェックメイトのときあんなに文字出るんだよwww
おのれシュナイゼル！！
チェスの説明だろ
シュナイゼルがこの手を指した理由も書かれているみたい
チェスのルール的に間違いがあるらしい 放送当時も結構言われてた チェス全然知らんからわからんけど
SCREW THE RULES
Schneizel moves king - lelouch NANI?! He rekt my swag wtf?
チェスが三つから五つに増えてる気がするが気のせいか
ルルーシュ強いから俺らからすれば
コマが増えてるように見えるんだよな。
🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The chance of the translator beeing female is also over 9000 lol
Can't believe people are still complaining about the rules where there is an EXTRA DETAILED TRANSLATOR NOTES in the video.
Even in Blitz game, it is still considerated as Illegal Move. I'm a chess palyer myself, so i can say it for sure.
For everyone saying they dont know how to play
chess via one Lelouch spawning with extra
pawns thats because the animators mistake and
its consistent that he had more pawns but that
one scene was art mistake because we even hear
kaguya say "well there evenly matched" implying
thats its more so in the realm of actuality that he
did have that many pieces so that can be
dismissed and thrown out the window. And 2
Schneizel moving the king next to each other is
simply him doing this as intimidation to discover
Lelouchs identity as we alr know thats his only
intentions so thats why he did the illegal move.
In this position I was like WTF! Isn't White a knight and 3 pawns ahead??
キングは自殺行為出来へんぞwww
I always found it funny that no one in the Code Geass staff knows how to play chess ...
I wanna say “ please japan just play your shogi, you’re bad at chess” but i remember one of the best blitz players is from japan
*Best... Anime... Ever*
*opinion*
2:16 The scene and the explanation doesn't make any sense...
EZ Button: 2:11
Question did the author really think that chess is won when you eat the opponents king?
im dead when watching this
Hikaru Nakamura: *confused*
Or you could take with the pawn...
if someone can help me who released this? What subgroup?
Even if he moves black king the white king is still in check by black pawn
WTH???
I don't miss SELF-SERVING translator's notes at all.
did anyone read the discription?
Bram ten Have ye