I have lived in Greenville my whole life. My grandparents on my mom’s side on buried a few graves down from Joe. My aunt great aunt worked with Joe in Brandon Mill and talked about watching him play for the Spinners. It’s a trip to see this on RUclips! One of the best baseball players EVER!!!! It’s truly a shame he is not in the Hall of Fame.
My family is from SC. I’m Black. I wonder if he was passing for white. Some of his story of getting kicked out the league makes more sense. That’s the only thing worse than gambling since it’s clear he didn’t fix the games. The fact he grew up as a sharecropper makes me question most of his story.
Late in his life I met a former Furman University (and later semi-pro baseball player) named Eddie Edwards. Eddie said late in his life Joe Jackson would regularly stand near an outfield fence and watch the university team practice. The way Eddie told that story made me realize how much the game meant to Joe. It makes a person sad to think the guy with the most passion for the game had it taken away. Long live Joe’s memory. Thank you for this video.
Thank you for relating that moment in his life. It makes that scene in 'Field of Dreams" even more tender, when Joe talks about getting kicked out, the smell of the game and how he would have played for noth'n. Can you imagine Joe and Ray embracing on the other side? This is why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
I'm glad you included that story about Ty Cobb stopping by to check on his friend. Most people aren't familiar with that, they just go off the BS story that hack failed sports writer wrote. The guy was a fall down drunk and he assassinated Ty's reputation after he passed away to sell his book. The story you shared, a guy checking checking on his buddy when the rest of baseball had moved on, and Joe's meek but grateful response to the gesture, speaks to the real character of the two men. Maybe now that baseball is openly cavorting with gambling houses themselves they'll drop the hypocrisy and let Joe in the Hall. He was banned for life and he served his sentence. I'm with you on this one, let him in.
@@ernestpassaro9663 You might want to look again. I never said Joe wrote anything. I said a drunken washed up sports writer out of New York wrote a hit piece on Ty Cobb, not Joe Jackson.
What a lovely tribute. As a Brit that learned about Baseball in the 90s, Joe was 1 of the legends' names that always cropped up. Fingers crossed a commissioner will at some point reverse the ban and induct Joe into the Hall, as he truly deserves
Very good video. I grew up in Greenville. In the 1990s, while supporting a campaign to get Shoeless Joe into the HOF, I had an opportunity to talk to his younger sister Gertrude and a young friend of Joe's who learned and was inspired by him to play baseball (Joe Anders - Brooklyn Dodgers). Near the Brandon baseball field is Woodside Mill, which has an almost hidden baseball field with original dugouts and stands from the 1920s. It was for sale then, and I almost bought it, but thought such a treasure should be community owned It is now owned by the county recreation department. Shoeless Joe managed a baseball team there after the ban, I think when he was in his 40s. It is said that even then, he could routinely hit the chain link fence 415 feet away.
Terrific, terrific job! Really well done. Your commentary, the pace of your voice, goes right along with the period of time you are reflecting on. Excellent!
Yes. The ban was a lifetime one, his "debt" if that is how anyone regards it, has been paid. He was human, but his ability, talent and skill deserves to be celebrated & included amongst the pantheon of the greats in Cooperstown.
Thank you so much for your kind words! I agree I was hoping commissioner Manfred would do the right thing and now he’s done the same as so many before him and just kicks the can down the road. I’m hoping the success of the field of dreams game may have an impact.
@@lancemousel3457 I know he was a great hitter; this is not the point. I need no history lessons about baseball from you. He accepted money to throw the 1919 World Series, and this is an absolute FACT! He does not belong in the HOF, and he is NOT in the HOF, and I am not asking to like it. Disagree with me all day long, and you will still be wrong!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It seems to be that Shoeless Joe was a very kind man. Just sort of accepted the bad hand that he was dealt and then tried to do right and live a humble, quiet life in his beloved town. This made me hope that MLB gets him into the Hall. He deserves it.
@@PassingThroughProductions Yes, it's always pointed out that he hit quite well in the Series of 1919, but often omitted that he did not hit well in crucial situations, and his defensive play was very questionable.
@@garymorris1856 Just as long as you feel that exact same way about the steroid cheats that have forever ruined the entire game of baseball and not just one world series.
Thanks for making this video and putting it out here. I've hear people say he was born in 1887 (Wikipedia), 1888, 1895, etc, etc... it seems a mystery, much like why he's not in the Baseball Hall of Fame. But going off this, if he were born in 1895 and in the year 1900 he'd only be 5 years old. Aside from all this... again, thank you for making this video and sharing the information and experiences that you had.
Thanks so much for this! That museum in Greenville is now on my bucket list! A couple of observations: The museum, formerly his home, has a street number on the door of 356 - the same as his lifetime BA. Coincidence? At 7:48, where they show the commemorative plaque at the base of his statue, the second paragraph leads with "At the peek of his career..." We all see typos all the time - but on a bronze plaque? A little embarrassing, I think.
Joe Jackson is a model of what we all should strive for. To be humble, to always do your best, and show kindness to one another. A simple man that had his career cut short by a vengeful commissioner. It saddens me that this ruling could not have been reversed by one of the very best human beings... Joe Jackson!
Always do your best does not apply to Shoeless Joe he admitted he was part of the fix and went out of his way to not do his best and he delivered. I don’t want to hear he didn’t know what he was involved in he wasn’t able to read and write but he still had common sense .
@@PassingThroughProductions I'd keep up better, but I don't hardly ever get notifications, so I drop in from time to time, to see what's new, LOL! While not a huge baseball fan, this was very interesting. I'm also glad, that you didn't go into all the horrid details about his part in the cheating debacle, but focused on his awesome career.
Definitely deserves to be in the hall of fame! one of the greatest! Actually he is #2 on my list of the greatest of all time! Thanks for posting this video great work!
Joe also played for the Pacific Mill-Lyman team for a couple of seasons in the late 1920s. There were team pictures that hung in the Lyman Community Building. I saw them in the 70s during my Little League years.
What was done to him was horrific! He did his part to win! This man did NOTHING wrong! If he has any family alive today the current commissioner of MLB needs to do a Worldwide apology for the unfair way he was destroyed.
he was also called sockless joe as told in the book "Commy" the life story of Comiskey written in 1919., you should also read the book 8 men out for more facts than the movie.
I always believed that Jackson was handed a very raw deal by Landis and your video only reaffirmed that belief! Shoeless Joe was, and remains to this day, one of baseball's most tragic figures!
Back when i was in my late teen years( i am 56 now ) ,i living in North Carolina and was working for a cable company and we would go to Greenville South Carolina from time to time on jobs . I wish i knew shoeless Joe lived ther i would have tried to see what ever there was about him . I always loved badeball , always will.
@@PassingThroughProductions You're welcome. I always knew the basics of the story, and researched Joe more after watching the video. Guilty or not, he served his time! Pete, same thing. Reinstate these guys. Their baseball prison terms were MORE than fulfilled at this point.
Great singer in the 1980's also. Lol Seriously and obviously he wasn't a better hitter than Cobb, Ruth, Gehrig or Hornsby to name a few but he is THE NATURAL.
It's difficult to get the background of some of the players in early baseball. I really enjoyed this video. I like getting to know the man. Good job! Thank you.
*Mistakenly said Joe was born in 1895 due to the fact the subject of a previous days filming was born then. Joe was born in 1889. (Some sources say 1888)
shoeless joes glove is where triples would go to die a quote from the movie field of dreams shoeless joe was a great player and it's sad he will never get the well deserved honor of entering the hall of fame
Great insight into the life of Shoeless Joe Jackson. It appears if he knew about the scandal he never participated in it even if he did attend a meeting. He batted .375 leading all hitters in the 1919 World Series with no errors and I think I saw something where he threw some runners out besides in that World Series. It appears he was a successful businessman which says a lot for him since he was illiterate. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
He really seemed like a truly decent human being. Some people may say that being illiterate is a sign of stupidity. I think one has to be very intelligent to get through life when not being able to read or write. This was an awesome video!
As a huge baseball fan from the UK the fact that Shoeless isn't in the Hall is the most disgusting travesty in baseball history. He's one of my favourite players of all time.
I grew up with this dude on my mind.I love med baseball more then all things as a kid and hearing how much all other players looked up to joe made me a huge fan of his. When you look at his career and what he did in a 10-12 year majors career it’s easy to wonder what his all time placement would have been had he played as long as cobb. Joe Jackson in my opinion would have been number #1 had he got more then only half a career. Hea still 3rd all time best batting average and only 11 points behind cobb so he without question would have been 1st had he the extra 10-12 years in the majors as cobb had. The only thing joe Jackson didn’t have huge stats on was home runs and that is simply because home runs were not a thing until the babe came along and before babe was home run baker who even with the name home run baker still only averaged 10 homers a season. Ty cobb and joe Jackson have very low all time home runs because they were not a thing yet.That being said Jackson could do anything on the field and at bat he truly was gifted from day one. I could never afford any of his cards but one day about 5 years back I found 4 original sholess joe cards along with 2 ty cobbs and a large original 1918 Red Sox babe Ruth team Photo made from origional photo paper of the day all in great condition but the joe Jackson cards are still my best cards I love the most he was the best ever in my opinion.
I never quite understood his banishment from baseball. He never attended any of the meetings with the players conspiring to throw the game, and he was the leading hitter in the world series. Something doesn't add up. I believe that somehow this man got railroaded.
@@bauerj3398 He did testify in the affirmative, however history will show that he was railroaded. He took the advice of the attorney hired to defend he and his teammates. That attorney was very short-sighted. Sorry, but lawyers are ruthless. I was once accused of a crime I most certainly didn't commit. Money was tight and I was assigned a legal aid lawyer who told me to plead guilty to a lesser charge. When I said I had committed no crime he said well then go hire a lawyer because it's "my job to get you through the system ASAP." Long story short, I had to borrow $5,000 from my sister, hired a real attorney, and the mess was cleared up 1 2 3. I realize the man wasn't using a legal aid attorney, but he was just going with the legal advice given him. The money was forced on him and he basically either took it, or followed legal advice saying that he took it. Why would he conspire to throw the series, and then go out and have a great world series? It doesn't make any sense to me. It's another one of those many instances where the history that was recorded was pure bullshit. Look at all the erroneous things that history has recorded about Ty Cobb. Hell, history tells us that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered JFK 😂
@@mtp4430 Wait, so you are saying he lied and didn't take money? That is some serious revisionist history you got going there. If you want to try to argue that he took the money but then didn't partake of the game fixing, that is a reasonable discussion, but to pretend he didn't take money, when he did, and he admitted he did, is just plain ludicrous.
@@bauerj3398 it's obvious you don't have much experience with lawyers or the practice of law. The jails are filled with people who claimed culpability in things they never took part in. It's all part of the system, and unfortunately the system doesn't work. However, it's the only one we've got. I said he may or may not have taken money. Just because he said he did regarding the legal advice he was given doesn't necessarily make it so. I was advised to plead guilty to a crime I've never committed, just to get a reduced sentence. Why should I have a sentence at all if I'm innocent. It took me $5,000 and an above board attorney to squash that claim before it even went to court. The evidence was clear that I had done nothing, but these legal aid schmucks advised me to plead guilty to a lesser sentence. This man was an uneducated illiterate man. Documents actually had to be read to him because he didn't even know how to read. But you're right, he shouldn't have taken the money. But the jury is still out on whether he took it or not. Ask yourself this? Why would the conspirators who devised the plan to throw the series pay this man when he never delivered on his promise? Instead, he had an outstanding series. When things don't add up you have to question it. And you have to question it two or three times when it involves our legal system. If he was advised it would go away by just admitting he took part in it, and that was the legal advice he got, and uneducated unsophisticated type that he was, would probably go with whatever his counsel advised. Maybe he did take the money as he stated. But I believe that was coercement. Go ahead, make a deal with underworld figures, then renege on that deal, and see if they pay you LOL. The man was the leading hitter in the series. You don't pay a man who double crosses you. That's just plain and simple logic.
@@mtp4430 It is obvious the only experience you have in this matters is that of a criminal. Keep making up excuses, talking out of your ass, in complete disregard of the facts, and pretend you are some sort of autodidact Perry Mason, if that helps you puff out your chest a bit. Meanwhile, in the real world, Jackson testified under oath that he took $5000, signed a confession to the exact same effect, and stated afterwards, the exact same thing (his bone of contention was that he was promised $20,000, but only got $5000.)
The one constant that keeps everyone equal, the place where you can’t buy your way in, you have to earn it by being in the top 1/2 of one percent, of the genre, you have to be great just to play baseball. And people know it’s real, it’s not rigged it has rules for everyone.
Rob Manfred listen up. If you really care that much about the history of baseball you need to overturn that bigoted Commissioner Keneshaw Mountain Landis's ludicrous decision and put Joe Jackson in the Hall of Fame. He is deserving of that recognition. If the fans had the opportunity to elect him it would be an overwhelming vote for his enshrinement. What happened to him is one of the greatest tragedies in baseball history.
MLB will let juicers into the Hall Of Fame but not a legend who hit .375 in the World Series while committing no errors? MLB per usual is on the wrong side of history.
You would think by now that an honest baseball commissioner would have reinstated him considering he was acquitted of any wrongdoing. His case is a perfect example of guilty by association. Just look at his World Series stats. Are those the stats of someone trying to throw a series?
I would hope that somewhere down the road, Joe is admitted to the HOF. After all, Cobb was enshrined in the #1 spot and he too bet against his own team during his playing days. You can look it up.
From a longtime Scottish baseball fan.
Thank you for this video.
Bless you 🙏🏼
Thank you so much!
Another fan in Scotland ? 🏴👍
@@robbiemacinnes8517 yes'sir 👍🏼
Joe Jackson should be in the Hall of Fame. No question.
I agree. In a matter of speaking, he is. The Hall has a pair of his spikes on display.
A fitting memorial to one of the patron saints of Baseball. Thanks for showing him the respect he deserves.
Thank you so much for your time in watching and the much appreciated comments.
I have lived in Greenville my whole life. My grandparents on my mom’s side on buried a few graves down from Joe. My aunt great aunt worked with Joe in Brandon Mill and talked about watching him play for the Spinners. It’s a trip to see this on RUclips! One of the best baseball players EVER!!!! It’s truly a shame he is not in the Hall of Fame.
My family is from SC. I’m Black. I wonder if he was passing for white. Some of his story of getting kicked out the league makes more sense. That’s the only thing worse than gambling since it’s clear he didn’t fix the games. The fact he grew up as a sharecropper makes me question most of his story.
Late in his life I met a former Furman University (and later semi-pro baseball player) named Eddie Edwards. Eddie said late in his life Joe Jackson would regularly stand near an outfield fence and watch the university team practice. The way Eddie told that story made me realize how much the game meant to Joe. It makes a person sad to think the guy with the most passion for the game had it taken away. Long live Joe’s memory. Thank you for this video.
Thank you for relating that moment in his life. It makes that scene in 'Field of Dreams" even more tender, when Joe talks about getting kicked out, the smell of the game and how he would have played for noth'n. Can you imagine Joe and Ray embracing on the other side? This is why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
I'm glad you included that story about Ty Cobb stopping by to check on his friend. Most people aren't familiar with that, they just go off the BS story that hack failed sports writer wrote. The guy was a fall down drunk and he assassinated Ty's reputation after he passed away to sell his book. The story you shared, a guy checking checking on his buddy when the rest of baseball had moved on, and Joe's meek but grateful response to the gesture, speaks to the real character of the two men.
Maybe now that baseball is openly cavorting with gambling houses themselves they'll drop the hypocrisy and let Joe in the Hall. He was banned for life and he served his sentence. I'm with you on this one, let him in.
Great use of “cavorting”. I agree with the points you’ve made. He’s served his time.
Unfortunately Cobb was a Freemason... 👎 Hopefully he Found Jesus.
He couldn’t read or write so how could he sign anything!
@@ernestpassaro9663 You might want to look again. I never said Joe wrote anything. I said a drunken washed up sports writer out of New York wrote a hit piece on Ty Cobb, not Joe Jackson.
@@itinerantpatriot1196 ok
What a lovely tribute. As a Brit that learned about Baseball in the 90s, Joe was 1 of the legends' names that always cropped up. Fingers crossed a commissioner will at some point reverse the ban and induct Joe into the Hall, as he truly deserves
Thank you so much for watching!
Very good video. I grew up in Greenville. In the 1990s, while supporting a campaign to get Shoeless Joe into the HOF, I had an opportunity to talk to his younger sister Gertrude and a young friend of Joe's who learned and was inspired by him to play baseball (Joe Anders - Brooklyn Dodgers). Near the Brandon baseball field is Woodside Mill, which has an almost hidden baseball field with original dugouts and stands from the 1920s. It was for sale then, and I almost bought it, but thought such a treasure should be community owned It is now owned by the county recreation department. Shoeless Joe managed a baseball team there after the ban, I think when he was in his 40s. It is said that even then, he could routinely hit the chain link fence 415 feet away.
Thank you so much for your kind words and amazing comments!
@@PassingThroughProductions That’s awesome I lived there was born there.Thanks for the history lesson 😊❤
Terrific, terrific job! Really well done. Your commentary, the pace of your voice, goes right along with the period of time you are reflecting on. Excellent!
That made my day, thank you!
Joe Jackson should be in the Hall of fame
Proud of my shoeless Joe Jackson from our hometown my grandfather played with him on a mill team before he became famous,he was a kind gentleman.
He deserves to be in the hall of fame
Put him in the Hall of fame!!!!!!!!!!
IT'S BEEN WAY OVER DUE, THAT
SHOELESS JOE SHOULD BE IN
BASEBALL HALL OF FAME !
Yes. The ban was a lifetime one, his "debt" if that is how anyone regards it, has been paid. He was human, but his ability, talent and skill deserves to be celebrated & included amongst the pantheon of the greats in Cooperstown.
Fabulous Homage and Tribute . Bravo. I hope Joe Does get that Reinstatement and Hall of Fame Tribute he SO deserves. Tragic.
Thank you so much for your kind words! I agree I was hoping commissioner Manfred would do the right thing and now he’s done the same as so many before him and just kicks the can down the road. I’m hoping the success of the field of dreams game may have an impact.
@@PassingThroughProductions YES ! Perhaps THIS will have a visceral response from him to right this !
Love Greenville , Spartanburg Area , Beautiful Place and very Nice People!
He was still a great player and he should be in the hall of fame
I AGREE!!
No, he accepted money to throw the 1919 World Series. Hell no!
@@marcbrooks2466 I do not agree.
The bambino patterned his stance and hitting on shoeless Joe enough said I rest my case should be in the hall shame on hall of Fame idiot people
@@lancemousel3457 I know he was a great hitter; this is not the point. I need no history lessons about baseball from you. He accepted money to throw the 1919 World Series, and this is an absolute FACT! He does not belong in the HOF, and he is NOT in the HOF, and I am not asking to like it. Disagree with me all day long, and you will still be wrong!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It seems to be that Shoeless Joe was a very kind man. Just sort of accepted the bad hand that he was dealt and then tried to do right and live a humble, quiet life in his beloved town. This made me hope that MLB gets him into the Hall. He deserves it.
Thank you so much for watching!
Great video, and a great player, but NO, he does not deserve to be in the Hall. He accepted the money, and of this, there is no question.
@@garymorris1856 yes several historians keep ending up with that same conclusion.
@@PassingThroughProductions Yes, it's always pointed out that he hit quite well in the Series of 1919, but often omitted that he did not hit well in crucial situations, and his defensive play was very questionable.
@@garymorris1856 Just as long as you feel that exact same way about the steroid cheats that have forever ruined the entire game of baseball and not just one world series.
Great job. Love this game and it's history
Thank you!
Many thanks for this video. Delighted to see the field and museum. 👍🏴
@@robbiemacinnes8517 my pleasure! Thank you for watching.
Thanks for making this video and putting it out here. I've hear people say he was born in 1887 (Wikipedia), 1888, 1895, etc, etc... it seems a mystery, much like why he's not in the Baseball Hall of Fame. But going off this, if he were born in 1895 and in the year 1900 he'd only be 5 years old. Aside from all this... again, thank you for making this video and sharing the information and experiences that you had.
Thank you so much! Yes I pinned a comment about why I got the birth year wrong. I appreciate so much you watching and commenting.
Thank you for this tour my friend!!
Thank you for watching!
This was absolutely delightful!
Thanks so much for this! That museum in Greenville is now on my bucket list!
A couple of observations:
The museum, formerly his home, has a street number on the door of 356 - the same as his lifetime BA. Coincidence?
At 7:48, where they show the commemorative plaque at the base of his statue, the second paragraph leads with "At the peek of his career..." We all see typos all the time - but on a bronze plaque? A little embarrassing, I think.
Well done video. Thank you. All baseball fans are curious about Joe Jackson. So sad they took MLB baseball away from him.
Thank you so much for watching!
BRAVO! You've restored dignity that the man deserves...
Thank you so much!
This man deserves to be in the Hall of Fame
Joe Jackson is a model of what we all should strive for. To be humble, to always do your best, and show kindness to one another. A simple man that had his career cut short by a vengeful commissioner. It saddens me that this ruling could not have been reversed by one of the very best human beings... Joe Jackson!
Always do your best does not apply to Shoeless Joe he admitted he was part of the fix and went out of his way to not do his best and he delivered. I don’t want to hear he didn’t know what he was involved in he wasn’t able to read and write but he still had common sense .
Citation please.
Hard to throw a series when you're doing everything in your power to win. Pete Rose sort of got what he had coming. Joe, nah! No way.
WOW! What an in depth, and awesome history of a baseball legend.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you my friend! This was a joy to film. I really appreciate you watching.
@@PassingThroughProductions I'd keep up better, but I don't hardly ever get notifications, so I drop in from time to time, to see what's new, LOL!
While not a huge baseball fan, this was very interesting.
I'm also glad, that you didn't go into all the horrid details about his part in the cheating debacle, but focused on his awesome career.
Definitely deserves to be in the hall of fame! one of the greatest! Actually he is #2 on my list of the greatest of all time! Thanks for posting this video great work!
Thank you so much for watching!
@@PassingThroughProductions You're welcome 😊
Excellent video! Thank you so much for sharing his amazing story.
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
Good job with this personal view of this historical summary. I can tell you know and enjoy Greenville, my home town!
Thank you so much!
Was in Greenville last week but the museum was unfortunately closed so was great to get some glimpses inside from this.
Thank you so much for watching! I’m glad you were able to see some of the museum through the video.
Excellent history video!! So professional and informative!! Keep up the good work!!
Molly thank you so much! I really appreciate it. This is maybe the most fun I’ve ever had making one.
Joe also played for the Pacific Mill-Lyman team for a couple of seasons in the late 1920s. There were team pictures that hung in the Lyman Community Building. I saw them in the 70s during my Little League years.
Great video! Thanks a lot
I really appreciate the kind words!
What was done to him was horrific! He did his part to win! This man did NOTHING wrong! If he has any family alive today the current commissioner of MLB needs to do a Worldwide apology for the unfair way he was destroyed.
He probably should not have taken the money to throw the games then (which he testified, under oath, that he did).
He made dubious fielding decisions throughout the series. Still, to have been barred for life from the HOF was unfair.
No, you are wrong.
@@HankFinkle11 No, he should not be in HOF.
Compared to the criminals in sports today he's a saint
I love learning the history of baseball ⚾️ 👏👏💃💃
Thank you for watching!
he was also called sockless joe as told in the book "Commy" the life story of Comiskey written in 1919., you should also read the book 8 men out for more facts than the movie.
8MO is a great book, give The Betrayal by Charles Fountain a try, it's more factual.
Put this on to go to sleep but ended up watching the whole thing. Great vid 👍🏽
Thank you!
Had to grab some popcorn for this. lol Great job putting this together! Retiring with a liquor store.. Not a bad way to go out.
Thank you so much my friend! I really appreciate you watching.
I just have to say THANK YOU for this amazing video!
Mike
That means the world to me that you enjoyed it. Thank you so much!
Very enlightening and most enjoyable! Thank you!
Thank you so much!
I always believed that Jackson was handed a very raw deal by Landis and your video only reaffirmed that belief! Shoeless Joe was, and remains to this day, one of baseball's most tragic figures!
Great video! I’ve always felt that Joe Jackson and Buck Weaver got a raw deal.
Thank you so much!
Back when i was in my late teen years( i am 56 now ) ,i living in North Carolina and was working for a cable company and we would go to Greenville South Carolina from time to time on jobs . I wish i knew shoeless Joe lived ther i would have tried to see what ever there was about him . I always loved badeball , always will.
Thanks for watching!
Really cool, always been fascinated by joe as I have always been a white sox fan. Thanks for showing us!
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Awesome video man! I went by Rickwood Field in Birmingham on my trip. I love Baseball history
Thank you so much sir! Baseball definitely will always be my favorite.
Is it Hank Aaron stadium in Birmingham also you can see it from Interstate 65
Great video sir! Stellar 👍
Thank you so much my friend. Really enjoyed this one.
Cool watch for any baseball lifer. Thanks bro 👍
Thank you so much!
@@PassingThroughProductions You're welcome. I always knew the basics of the story, and researched Joe more after watching the video. Guilty or not, he served his time! Pete, same thing. Reinstate these guys. Their baseball prison terms were MORE than fulfilled at this point.
Another great video of early baseball.
Thank you so much!
Great singer in the 1980's also. Lol
Seriously and obviously he wasn't a better hitter than Cobb, Ruth, Gehrig or Hornsby to name a few but he is THE NATURAL.
It's difficult to get the background of some of the players in early baseball. I really enjoyed this video. I like getting to know the man. Good job! Thank you.
I really appreciate your comments so much!
Read L.Ritter's " Glory of their Times"
About baseball old days- a great great read
*Mistakenly said Joe was born in 1895 due to the fact the subject of a previous days filming was born then. Joe was born in 1889. (Some sources say 1888)
shoeless joes glove is where triples would go to die a quote from the movie field of dreams shoeless joe was a great player and it's sad he will never get the well deserved honor of entering the hall of fame
Great insight into the life of Shoeless Joe Jackson. It appears if he knew about the scandal he never participated in it even if he did attend a meeting. He batted .375 leading all hitters in the 1919 World Series with no errors and I think I saw something where he threw some runners out besides in that World Series. It appears he was a successful businessman which says a lot for him since he was illiterate. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
He really seemed like a truly decent human being.
Some people may say that being illiterate is a sign of stupidity. I think one has to be very intelligent to get through life when not being able to read or write.
This was an awesome video!
Thank you so much!
@@PassingThroughProductions you're welcome!
Great job Arron
Thank you!
I love the video!! I will visit Greenville in his honor.
Thank you!
Jackson hit 375 in that series!
Excellent video. Thank you.
Thank you so much!
As a huge baseball fan from the UK the fact that Shoeless isn't in the Hall is the most disgusting travesty in baseball history. He's one of my favourite players of all time.
Thank you for watching and commenting sir!
I grew up with this dude on my mind.I love med baseball more then all things as a kid and hearing how much all other players looked up to joe made me a huge fan of his.
When you look at his career and what he did in a 10-12 year majors career it’s easy to wonder what his all time placement would have been had he played as long as cobb.
Joe Jackson in my opinion would have been number #1 had he got more then only half a career.
Hea still 3rd all time best batting average and only 11 points behind cobb so he without question would have been 1st had he the extra 10-12 years in the majors as cobb had.
The only thing joe Jackson didn’t have huge stats on was home runs and that is simply because home runs were not a thing until the babe came along and before babe was home run baker who even with the name home run baker still only averaged 10 homers a season.
Ty cobb and joe Jackson have very low all time home runs because they were not a thing yet.That being said Jackson could do anything on the field and at bat he truly was gifted from day one.
I could never afford any of his cards but one day about 5 years back I found 4 original sholess joe cards along with 2 ty cobbs and a large original 1918 Red Sox babe Ruth team Photo made from origional photo paper of the day all in great condition but the joe Jackson cards are still my best cards I love the most he was the best ever in my opinion.
Joe belongs in the Hall of fame..no doubt!!
Thanks for sharing!!
Kinisaw Mountain Landis was born near my home town. There’s a small plaque on the side of the road for his remembrance.
Great video!! Thank you....
Thank you so much!
He has done his time. Let him in.
I never quite understood his banishment from baseball. He never attended any of the meetings with the players conspiring to throw the game, and he was the leading hitter in the world series. Something doesn't add up. I believe that somehow this man got railroaded.
Probably should not have taken the money then (which he did, by his own admission, under oath).
@@bauerj3398 He did testify in the affirmative, however history will show that he was railroaded. He took the advice of the attorney hired to defend he and his teammates. That attorney was very short-sighted. Sorry, but lawyers are ruthless. I was once accused of a crime I most certainly didn't commit. Money was tight and I was assigned a legal aid lawyer who told me to plead guilty to a lesser charge. When I said I had committed no crime he said well then go hire a lawyer because it's "my job to get you through the system ASAP." Long story short, I had to borrow $5,000 from my sister, hired a real attorney, and the mess was cleared up 1 2 3.
I realize the man wasn't using a legal aid attorney, but he was just going with the legal advice given him. The money was forced on him and he basically either took it, or followed legal advice saying that he took it. Why would he conspire to throw the series, and then go out and have a great world series? It doesn't make any sense to me. It's another one of those many instances where the history that was recorded was pure bullshit. Look at all the erroneous things that history has recorded about Ty Cobb. Hell, history tells us that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered JFK 😂
@@mtp4430 Wait, so you are saying he lied and didn't take money? That is some serious revisionist history you got going there. If you want to try to argue that he took the money but then didn't partake of the game fixing, that is a reasonable discussion, but to pretend he didn't take money, when he did, and he admitted he did, is just plain ludicrous.
@@bauerj3398 it's obvious you don't have much experience with lawyers or the practice of law. The jails are filled with people who claimed culpability in things they never took part in. It's all part of the system, and unfortunately the system doesn't work. However, it's the only one we've got. I said he may or may not have taken money. Just because he said he did regarding the legal advice he was given doesn't necessarily make it so. I was advised to plead guilty to a crime I've never committed, just to get a reduced sentence. Why should I have a sentence at all if I'm innocent. It took me $5,000 and an above board attorney to squash that claim before it even went to court. The evidence was clear that I had done nothing, but these legal aid schmucks advised me to plead guilty to a lesser sentence. This man was an uneducated illiterate man. Documents actually had to be read to him because he didn't even know how to read. But you're right, he shouldn't have taken the money. But the jury is still out on whether he took it or not. Ask yourself this? Why would the conspirators who devised the plan to throw the series pay this man when he never delivered on his promise? Instead, he had an outstanding series. When things don't add up you have to question it. And you have to question it two or three times when it involves our legal system. If he was advised it would go away by just admitting he took part in it, and that was the legal advice he got, and uneducated unsophisticated type that he was, would probably go with whatever his counsel advised. Maybe he did take the money as he stated. But I believe that was coercement. Go ahead, make a deal with underworld figures, then renege on that deal, and see if they pay you LOL. The man was the leading hitter in the series. You don't pay a man who double crosses you. That's just plain and simple logic.
@@mtp4430 It is obvious the only experience you have in this matters is that of a criminal. Keep making up excuses, talking out of your ass, in complete disregard of the facts, and pretend you are some sort of autodidact Perry Mason, if that helps you puff out your chest a bit. Meanwhile, in the real world, Jackson testified under oath that he took $5000, signed a confession to the exact same effect, and stated afterwards, the exact same thing (his bone of contention was that he was promised $20,000, but only got $5000.)
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He's always my first choice in my all time greatest White Sox players.
Like Ruth, up from nothing to greatness.
A lot in Joe's eyes 👀 deep soul
I hope I'm alive when they finally realize that he truly belongs.
Very cool.
He should be in the hall of fame but we got stupid commissioner. I hope we get a good one who will let him in.
The one constant that keeps everyone equal, the place where you can’t buy your way in, you have to earn it by being in the top 1/2 of one percent, of the genre, you have to be great just to play baseball. And people know it’s real, it’s not rigged it has rules for everyone.
Uniform, bats, quite valuable I imagine ⚾️⚾️⚾️
I think it has been long enough that Joe Jefferson "Shoeless Joe" Jackson should be reinstituted back in the M.L.B.
Very well made video!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it.
Smashing the like button 👍 thank you..thank you very much
Thank you King!
Excellent Video
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Good presentation.
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Interesting video
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He belongs in the HOF. It's a crime that he isn't.
8:19 look at how big that house under construction next to it is brah
Hero's get remembered, Legends never die - Babe Ruth
well done!!!
Thank you so much!
Did he ever do any interviews? Like later in life during the 30s-50s?
I’ve seen a magazine interview from 49’ www.blackbetsy.com/theTruth.html
His house that he was born in right here in downtown Greenville south Carolina!!
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Rob Manfred listen up. If you really care that much about the history of baseball you need to overturn that bigoted Commissioner Keneshaw Mountain Landis's ludicrous decision and put Joe Jackson in the Hall of Fame. He is deserving of that recognition. If the fans had the opportunity to elect him it would be an overwhelming vote for his enshrinement. What happened to him is one of the greatest tragedies in baseball history.
In comparison to what pro athletes have gotten away with today, he was an angel, and really should be in The HOF.
Now now... Two wrongs don't make a right...
No, he should not.
@@TheBatugan77 hell no!
MLB will let juicers into the Hall Of Fame but not a legend who hit .375 in the World Series while committing no errors? MLB per usual is on the wrong side of history.
Which “juicers” are in the HOF?
@@HankFinkle11 Ortiz, Pedro and Pudge to start with.
I hope the Jackson family is profiting from everything
Cmon, its the 21st century..do away with those draconian chains worn by shoeless joe..
You would think by now that an honest baseball commissioner would have reinstated him considering he was acquitted of any wrongdoing. His case is a perfect example of guilty by association. Just look at his World Series stats. Are those the stats of someone trying to throw a series?
I agree wholeheartedly!
I would hope that somewhere down the road, Joe is admitted to the HOF. After all, Cobb was enshrined in the #1 spot and he too bet against his own team during his playing days. You can look it up.
What about Pete Rose will he ever be in the Hall of Fame
@@mikekeeler6362 no chance
Exactly - Maybe THE Greatest player of all time...... .356 lifetime average... ! what would THAT be worth today....... ?
Reinstate Joe Jackson.
I agree.
Put Joe in the HOF!!!!
I AGREE ALSO@@richardhausig9493
I live 25 min from fluor field!!