SQLite is enough

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  • SQLite is enough.
    You should not use MySQL or Postgres.
    And you should definitely not use queues
    or other fancy cloud services like that
    Here is why
    Simplicity
    Complexity is coming from everywhere,
    and to keep ourselves sane,
    we have to pursue simplicity.
    At the end of the video
    I'll show why SQLite is enough
    Benchmarks and shit
    SQLite benefits
    But first, isn't SQLite just a toy technology?
    Not really
    SQLite gives a fresh breath of air
    It is the sleek database
    It is a super duper relational database
    but just a file.
    There are no servers.
    It is incomprehensible what this does to your flow.
    Elegant things happen when you just have a file.
    1. Setup and permissions
    2. Staging environment
    3. Wonderful little things like Metabase
    Why can you do this?
    Standard Traffic
    46% of websites received 1,001-15,000 visitors
    19.3% received 15,001-50,000 visitors
    23.2% received 50,001-250,000 visitors
    11% received 250,001-10 million visitors
    Only 0.5% of websites received more than 10 million visitors per month
    blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6...
    Performance?
    ```
    Insert 50,000 took 113.7 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, OFF, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 114.3 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, EXCLUSIVE, OFF, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 114.3 ms ([NOMUTEX, 8000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, OFF, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 114.8 ms ([NOMUTEX, 4000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, OFF, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 115.0 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, OFF, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 115.1 ms ([NOMUTEX, 2000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, OFF, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 115.5 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, OFF, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 116.0 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, OFF, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 116.0 ms ([NOMUTEX, 4000, 8192, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, OFF, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 116.2 ms ([NOMUTEX, 4000, 8192, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, OFF, MEMORY])
    ...[snip]...
    Insert 50,000 took 307.0 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 8192, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, NORMAL, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 316.3 ms ([FULLMUTEX, 1000, 1024, EXCLUSIVE, EXCLUSIVE, NORMAL, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 335.3 ms ([FULLMUTEX, 2000, 4096, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, NORMAL, WAL])
    Insert 50,000 took 348.9 ms ([NOMUTEX, 2000, 4096, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, OFF, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 351.4 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 1024, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, FULL, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 355.1 ms ([FULLMUTEX, 2000, 1024, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, NORMAL, TRUNCATE])
    Insert 50,000 took 368.1 ms ([FULLMUTEX, 1000, 1024, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, FULL, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 368.1 ms ([FULLMUTEX, 2000, 4096, NORMAL, EXCLUSIVE, NORMAL, MEMORY])
    Insert 50,000 took 436.4 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 1024, NORMAL, IMMEDIATE, FULL, WAL])
    Insert 50,000 took 541.6 ms ([NOMUTEX, 1000, 4096, EXCLUSIVE, IMMEDIATE, FULL, MEMORY])
    ```
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Комментарии • 62

  • @nodidog
    @nodidog Месяц назад +9

    I use SQLite by default. If a project needs a client + server structure, anticipates lots of concurrent writes, or requires more granular permissions, then I'd use Postgres - but they rarely do. SQLite is very, very capable, im a big proponent. Also, it is trivial to spin up an in-memory database with SQLite - great for lightening fast tests

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  28 дней назад

      Hey Nodidog, you might check a new video about SQLite in Production ruclips.net/video/z6LUgup3bs0/видео.html

  • @thomasborg4442
    @thomasborg4442 3 месяца назад +6

    Didn't think about the staging environment, but you're 100% spot on

  • @steffengroenandersen
    @steffengroenandersen 28 дней назад +13

    Bro, someone is whistling in the background music on this video 😅 It can make it hard to pay attention - atleast for me.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  28 дней назад +3

      Hey Steffen!
      Yea we got told this. We are never doing that again hehe. Like 10 people complained about it so far.
      By the way, if you wanna know about running SQLite in Production, I just released this
      ruclips.net/video/z6LUgup3bs0/видео.html
      Hygge :))

    • @bumpersmith
      @bumpersmith 7 дней назад +1

      @@MartinBaun It would be better without the captions also. If we want captions they can be turned on.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  7 дней назад

      @@bumpersmith thank you, I'll talk with my Editor what we can do. The next few videos are unfortunately already made so too late with those. I think we'll probably not have captions on the longer form, but then on the shorts we'll have.

  • @Imaginativeone_DF
    @Imaginativeone_DF 13 дней назад +1

    Magnificent video - thanks for making it.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  12 дней назад

      Thank you! :) I also made a follow up here
      ruclips.net/video/z6LUgup3bs0/видео.html
      Tell me what you think :)

  • @scotmcpherson
    @scotmcpherson 8 дней назад +1

    SQLite is the single most deployed and used database solution on the planet.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  8 дней назад

      yep, Linux, Firefox, Chrome, Phone apps.
      But most developer frown upon using it on the server as their main database. They probably should consider it before going with some more complicated stack

    • @scotmcpherson
      @scotmcpherson 8 дней назад +1

      @@MartinBaun I use it as the stage 1 database solution for my game servers.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  8 дней назад

      @@scotmcpherson Cool! I just checked your channel and subscribed!
      Are you making more videos in the future? :)

    • @scotmcpherson
      @scotmcpherson 8 дней назад

      @@MartinBaun yes, since I am in transition from Unity to Godot, I don’t have anything fun to share yet, but getting there and will produce content again once there is something fun to show. No one who cares about games will care to know my network stack, database choices, and bitpacking. They want to see game content. Imagine that!! ☺️

  • @avsync-live
    @avsync-live Месяц назад +4

    I think the advantage of copy and pasting your database is a little overrated. If you are setting up a pipeline to test and deliver your software, replicating databases between environments is abstracted away and automated. Automation is easier than copy and pasting files between environments. It’s more work to set up the first time, but then more reliable and hands off from then on.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  Месяц назад +1

      Hey Avsync - Audio Video Sync? :P
      For our staging environment we literally just run the following command locally
      scp user@PRODSERVER:./db.db /tmp/db.db
      scp /tmp/db.db user@STAGSERVER:./db.db
      and when we make a new project, we just copy paste this command. It is that easy. Sometimes we need to also copy uploaded files, and then we use rsync.
      It seems silly, it seems stupid, but it is so easy to work with comparaed to pipelines etc..

  • @the_ace248
    @the_ace248 22 дня назад +3

    I honestly love the whistle lol. It adds a bit of 'fill' to the silence.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  22 дня назад

      thanks for writing this. Hehe it is a bit funny, so many complained about the whistle, but it is also our most performant video so far :)
      By the way, if you liked this, I made a follow up video here
      ruclips.net/video/z6LUgup3bs0/видео.html

  • @vanillaface6097
    @vanillaface6097 28 дней назад +3

    I agree SQLite is fast, but you also need replication if you don't want to be down when one server is down. There's BedrockDB which is distributed SQLite with same benefits, but it's replicated.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  28 дней назад +2

      Yes, but it comes with a caveat. a lot more complexity. We have like 1 hour of downtime on most of our Hetzner machines per year. They just keep running when you 1. keep them overpowered and 2. keep it simple.
      BedrockDB sounds cool though, tell me more about it. How's the difference between litestream?

    • @charliezugasti
      @charliezugasti 25 дней назад +1

      @@MartinBaun can LiteFS be used to replicate the db?

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  25 дней назад

      @@charliezugasti Cool! I haven't seen LiteFS before. It looks like it can. So many things are happening in SQLite Universe right now.

  • @BosonCollider
    @BosonCollider Месяц назад +1

    There's a few caveats to the "just copy the file" argument, you do need to lock the database file using sqlite commands to take backups if it is in journaling mode. It's a bit less of an issue in WAL mode where you can have multiple readers, but you still can't just use cp if the database file is in use. You can use tools like litestream but then you are technically back to having a streaming replica setup although a simpler one.
    Sqlite is really really nice when it is an option though. It makes testing a lot easier, and sharding between users or self-service/provisioning is absolutely trivial which is another major advantage imo. If you need a lot of databases sqlite is your friend.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  Месяц назад +1

      Hey Boson,
      Yes, that's (kinda) true. They warn against using cp as it can corrupt some of the data, but I never had an issue doing this.
      For backups, I also use
      sqlite3 your.db ".dump" > backup.sql
      that should work wtihout any issues. Litestream is really cool concept, I haven't tried it but it is on the todo list.
      By the way, Monday I'll release a new video called "SQLite in Production - a master course". You'll probably enjoy that one ;)

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  28 дней назад

      Hey Boson, the SQLite in Production video is ready😎 ruclips.net/video/z6LUgup3bs0/видео.html

  • @Alex-zm9ww
    @Alex-zm9ww Месяц назад +1

    are u planning to release the "config" video soon ?

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  Месяц назад +3

      Hey Alex,
      Thanks for asking. I completely forgot about this video.
      I'll start working on it. Probably have it for you in a few days ;)
      Stay tuned!

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  28 дней назад +1

      Hey Alex, the SQLite in Production video is ready ruclips.net/video/z6LUgup3bs0/видео.html

    • @Alex-zm9ww
      @Alex-zm9ww 28 дней назад +1

      @@MartinBaun wow, thanks a lot!

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  28 дней назад

      @@Alex-zm9ww Thanks for reminding me :))

  • @_shahdhaval
    @_shahdhaval Месяц назад +1

    How you handle multiple requests accessing the same db file?

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  Месяц назад

      Great question, SQLite can handle it in most cases. If you have many apps doing continous queries it can be a problem, but usually it is not.
      You should probably set a PRAGMA to WAL, but it is very easy one liner.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  28 дней назад +1

      Hey Shahdhaval, the SQLite in Production video is ready ruclips.net/video/z6LUgup3bs0/видео.html
      There I'm explaining why and how to use WAL

  • @earthling017
    @earthling017 Месяц назад +3

    The video is informative and good to see. One feedback - the background score is very distracting. Please change it or get rid of it.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  Месяц назад

      Hey Earthling, thank you!
      What do you mean with the background score?
      1. the sound?
      2. the memes ?
      3. the background I am filming at?

    • @samuelm2934
      @samuelm2934 Месяц назад +1

      @@MartinBaun it's the sound/background music for me

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  Месяц назад

      @@samuelm2934 Thank you so much Samuel!
      Yes, it is quite distracting. Next videos we'll avoid this.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  28 дней назад

      Hey Earthlin👋, you can check our new video "SQLite in Production" ruclips.net/video/z6LUgup3bs0/видео.html
      I think this time the background music is not distracting from the video. 😎

  • @mojo6689
    @mojo6689 28 дней назад +1

    Great video

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  28 дней назад

      Thank you Mojo! If you like this, you'll probably like my newest video about SQLite in production!
      ruclips.net/video/z6LUgup3bs0/видео.html
      if you have questions, just write and I'll reply :)

  • @CaribouDataScience
    @CaribouDataScience 27 дней назад +5

    But duckdb is enougher....

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  27 дней назад

      DuckDB looks very interesting. Can you tell me more about it? I see it is in-memory but persist to disc. So I could imagine it is super fast

    • @karaloop9544
      @karaloop9544 18 дней назад +1

      @@MartinBaun sqlite = OLTP, duckdb = OLAP for what it's worth.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  18 дней назад +1

      @@karaloop9544 didn't get that analogy at all. Can you elaborate Kara? :)

    • @lldadb664
      @lldadb664 8 дней назад

      @@MartinBaun I don’t know anything about DuckDB but I’m assuming based on what @karaloop9544 said is that it is made for analytical queries. I imagine a good candidate for extract transform and load (ETL) scenarios when you need a reporting (OnLine Analytical Processing OLAP) DB based off of your transactional (OnLine Transaction Processing OTLP) DB.

  • @blueml08
    @blueml08 Месяц назад +1

    Great video, but pls next time - skip the whistle background sounds.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you Blue,
      You're not the only one saying this, and I wont have this on next time :)
      By the way, I am soon making the configuring / mastering SQLite in production.
      Stay tuned :)

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  28 дней назад +1

      Hey Blueml08, you might want to check our new "SQLite in Production video" 😎 ruclips.net/video/z6LUgup3bs0/видео.html

  • @YouTubePavlo
    @YouTubePavlo 3 месяца назад +3

    How about difference between sqlite and, for example, postgres? There may be a lot of problems if you will be top 10% visited sites
    But in general SQLite is great for pet-projects, startups etc.

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  3 месяца назад +5

      The 99% of websites should be fine unless you have very specific needs.
      The change that you'll become more than a 1% visited website is very low.
      And if you do, then switching from SQLite3 to Postgres is a lot easier than the reverse.

    • @BosonCollider
      @BosonCollider Месяц назад +2

      You need postgres if more than one running process needs to connect to the db. Postgres can be used as a message bus for example, while sqlite can't. But sqlite is very useful when you need a database that is owned by one application.

    • @YouTubePavlo
      @YouTubePavlo Месяц назад +1

      Does it mean that microservices can't eeven possibly work with SQLite?

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  Месяц назад

      ​@@RUclipsPavlo
      You can but it is probably not a great choice.
      You could for example have each microservice have their own sqlite database.
      Probably not great as I mentioned. As @bosoncollider mentioned, Postgres is probably better here

    • @StephanBeal
      @StephanBeal 29 дней назад

      @@BosonCollider "You need postgres if more than one running process needs to connect to the db" is not true. SQLite's forum and source control system are both sqlite-based and are in concurrent use 24/7 by many users, each request being processed by a separate CGI application instance (as opposed to a single persistent server process). Aside from those, at least one separate application continually polls the databases for queued email notifications to send out.

  • @BrunoBernard-kn6vt
    @BrunoBernard-kn6vt 2 месяца назад +1

    Just doing a copy-paste of a db is so underrated 😂

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  2 месяца назад +2

      exactly! It just makes things so much easier. Where do you use Sqlite?

    • @BrunoBernard-kn6vt
      @BrunoBernard-kn6vt 2 месяца назад +2

      @@MartinBaun I have a inventory management system used by my clients. Single instance on a 6$ vps :)
      Had zero hiccups so far! 🎉

    • @MartinBaun
      @MartinBaun  2 месяца назад +1

      cool, yeah And backup is so easy and simple Kudos to you for not doing what most people would do. Making it "web-scalable" with cloud infrastructure and complicated stuff

    • @BrunoBernard-kn6vt
      @BrunoBernard-kn6vt 2 месяца назад

      @@MartinBaun that's right! Also I am looking at SQLite extensions and litstream for disaster recovery.
      One example of extensions is to compress the data with time. Since everything is one server it has only 20Gb. I am planning to try it. Benchmarks say it can reduce 1GB of data to 72MB which is insane!