Wow, I'm pretty blown away. I'm consistently impressed with your projects, but your expertise really shows when you can not only make a bad ass project, but do a great job documenting and explaining your processes. Great job man thanks for the awesome video!
Wow. Great video. You've made yourself the master of table top cnc. Work like this pushes the "hobby" forward. Thanks for all that you put into it. Cheers! : )
Very cool, I have a new build that I have been fighting with trying to get it to cut aluminum. I feel that I might just be expecting more performance than it is capable of and watching this has provided me with a fresh perspective. Thanks
3:46 resistance from bending actually comes from an object's Area Moment of Inertia (2nd Moment of Area), and whilst thickness (dimension perpendicular to the axis taken), shape and aspect ratio are also important, and can allow you to get more bending resistance without increasing weight, by removing mass to create a certain shape. It's way they use I beams, and not massive solid rectangular sections the same size, because they can get "stiffness" from that shape.
There was a lot to take away from this video but the big one for me was “don’t let wall finishing tool paths touch the bottom of pockets and don’t let pocket finishing tool paths touch your walls. Never though about that! Talk about putting the time in at the computer not at the machine! Love it!
Great inspiration and good job. Watched the datron clip last night so the youtube algorithm made a good job and sent me here. :D Might try to do one myself on my 6040, would most likely be a "shortboard" due to the 60 cm of travel.
Nice work and you did a great job of showing how well, and how much, you can do with a light duty CNC Router. Some naysayers are having an anxiety attack!
My Schools Robotics team Recently got an OMIO CNC Router. I would consider it a desktop machine, but we've been able to push 16000 RPM with a .065 inch depth of cut with a feed rate of nearly 15 inches per minute. I've run it at a much lighter depth of nearly .01 inches and gotten a feed rate of nearly 60 inches per minute. And people say desktop machining sucks. Personally, it's amazing I can make parts that were unable to be made before with a mill or by hand.
You can definitely run much faster than that. Try adding a mister and changing to 4+mm single flute endmills if you aren't already. Increase rpm and feed directly in mach3, you want to be going 60IPM plus usually. With a 4mm or larger tool you should be able to do 100ipm, 0.060" DOC with 24krpm quite happily. Your probably running too slow. Winstons videos don't translate too well as the OMIO is capable of cutting more than 10x as fast in Aluminium.
We’re running a mister and a 4mm 2 flute end mill at nearly 60 ipt. But when running much faster reliability issues occur because of chatter. Will look into federate and rpm and depths however, thank you.
Wait, are you throwing all of those aluminum chips away?!?! Very nice work indeed! Makes me want to build my own Shapeoko and throw my big arsed DeWalt router on it.
The Shapeoko being closest to the Datron, in work area, is why I chose it. It's a great untapped platform. I'm pulling out all the stops on my Shapeoko, and apart from tool changer (which maybe someone can help me with someday) I'll have every bit as capable machine that's well within my newbie machining capabilities. Maybe I'll make a video on it when it's all done the way I want it.
That's fucking fantastic man. Utterly jaw droppingly beautiful. Motivates me to get going upgrading my OX CNC with some half decent drivers so I can more reliably cut aluminium :)
Hello Winston, Great video!! I noticed on a few videos of late you haven't been using your suckit setup. Is there a reason for this that may be on a video I missed? Thank you for all the time you put into your videos, you are very appreciated.
Loving these aluminum-related videos!!! Could you please link the air pump system you use? I'm looking around on Amazon and don't quite know how large of a hydroponic air pump to get to effectively clear chips.
Is there any chance you can share the operation settings? They can even be the templates, I am really curious about those 3d adaptive settings. Just subscribed by the way great content!
Hi Winston , i´ve almost watch all your videos and i do apreciat it if you do a project with whole details from fusion 360 till the end result passing by tool changing and how you do that , i have just own a cnc and got to learn Fusion 360 in about a week , i am doing well axcep some problem with how do i manage to do the tool change and the calibration between tools ..Greetings from Germany
Awesome video! I have a china 6040 and use 3 flute ZRN coated endmills and want to try the single flute like you use. Where can I find them? Quick search at Lakeshore and Carbide 3D didn't pop right up, all I found was 2 flute.
This is... amazing. Meanwhile, I tried finding someone who could make me a small, custom aluminum "T"-shaped part that I designed, and all I managed to find were people who sawed off aluminum by hand... I mean, where would you even find someone with half your expertise?
I really hope 5 axis software becomes more available to the hobby space in the future. Machine designs are already out there and the parts shouldn't be that hard to manufacture, making a driver board wouldn't be that hard, etc. etc., in the end it's just software that needs to catch up. Having a hobby 5axis machine that can do at least aluminum would be a huge money saver. As outsourcing an aluminum one-off to a cnc shop is ridiculously expensive, and a lot of shops don't take projects unless production is in mind. Finding a casting method can also get pretty expensive, especially with the trial and error methods of learning how to properly cast, not to mention the cost of machines, materials, and fixtures to accomplish casting by itself; plus the addition of a 3d printer if you're going with the lost pla method, costs can get pretty high, pretty quickly. A rotational gantry, where the 4th axis is hinged at both ends under the x axis rails and holds the mechanism for the 5th axis rotary table, would probably be the best solution for adapting these gantry based machines to 5 axis. Which this design is used in professional machines built to be 5 axis, not the ones that're 3 axis and upgraded with a couple of trunnions. Having a rotational gantry, if that's the proper name for it, is much more rigid, and probably has better harmonic properties to it. Yes, more expensive, as it's not a one size fits all solution when it's compared to adding a couple of rotary trunnions, but it should be better. Plus with a brand name machine, that brand name could eventually just create the part themselves for their machine; but with off-brand machines and fully DIY built machines, this could become an issue, though hopefully some solid designs become open sourced or available to purchase from a third party.
Very nice! It's great to see it in a semi-finished capacity instead of teaser shots on Instagram. Will you sand it down to make it even for anodizing or let the machining marks show through the anodized layer?
I go through them all on the latest Carbide3D video. A 1/4 single flute rougher, 1/4" 3 flute I used as a finisher, 1/8" for the smaller features, chamfer cutter, and ball endmill.
Freaking amazing! Seriously inspiring to what is possible to this new Shapeoko owner climbing that steep learning curve to learning the machine and the software. Also, what are the green, post it note looking things on the end of your spindle arm for?
@@WinstonMakes Ah! Makes sense. I'm having that issue with wood on mine right now, but that should be taken care of when I get my dust boot I ordered now they are in stock again. Love the videos! And appreciate you leaving things like your make shift chip guards in them. Makes it much more inspiring and gives hope that I too can learn to make stuff even a fraction as well. And reminds me that seemingly silly things aren't stupid if they work, lol
If you want a tessellated pattern but don't want to copy Datron, copy NASA. Get the McDonnell Douglas Isogrid Design Handbook en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isogrid Unfortunately the scan quality is pretty poor, especially the photos. Looks like the PDF was made from an early 1970's photocopy. Would be nice if an original print copy could be found to make a good scan. Page 42 of the PDF has a diagram of the isogrid dimensions used in Skylab.
You find it to be quite german that is lacking soul? one could argue that you are quite german handling this longboard project, which turned out great as a proof of concept, congrats. Americans have stereotypes for every nation on this planet, yet only 47% have a Passport.
Smart idea Romans 10:9 New International Version If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
“Quite German that is lacking soul” that just made my day!!! Greetings from Germany Herr Moy!
But for germans there's soul in every single cut.... how can there be more soul with less cutting? :}
Loved Germany. Spent 3 years there nearly 40 years ago.
You were trying to go between the machinist and maker world, but ended up in the Professional world. Amazing stuff!
Awesome work. People are fast to dismiss the more consumer level machines, but people like you prove a lot can be done with them.
Wow, I'm pretty blown away. I'm consistently impressed with your projects, but your expertise really shows when you can not only make a bad ass project, but do a great job documenting and explaining your processes. Great job man thanks for the awesome video!
Great job Winston! This turned out great!
This is such a cool project. Can't wait to watch the full series on C3D!
Glad to see you make advanced projects using the Shapeoko, keep them coming!
Wow. Great video. You've made yourself the master of table top cnc. Work like this pushes the "hobby" forward. Thanks for all that you put into it. Cheers! : )
Very cool, I have a new build that I have been fighting with trying to get it to cut aluminum. I feel that I might just be expecting more performance than it is capable of and watching this has provided me with a fresh perspective. Thanks
Seriously impressive considering what you are working with.
Dude! This was amazing! You should be proud!
The board looks very cool/minimalism!
The can-do attitude about desktop CNC is awesome as well!
Well done, very impressive design and machining strategy. I'm looking forward to the next video!
Finally got a chance to watch this, it turned out so sexy!! Definitely deserves more attention.
This is an incredible achievement. Your channel has really been amping up of late.
You should send it to Braille Skateboarding.
Good idea they test RUclips boards from multiple channels 👌👌
3:46 resistance from bending actually comes from an object's Area Moment of Inertia (2nd Moment of Area), and whilst thickness (dimension perpendicular to the axis taken), shape and aspect ratio are also important, and can allow you to get more bending resistance without increasing weight, by removing mass to create a certain shape. It's way they use I beams, and not massive solid rectangular sections the same size, because they can get "stiffness" from that shape.
Really nice Winston.... great design..
There was a lot to take away from this video but the big one for me was “don’t let wall finishing tool paths touch the bottom of pockets and don’t let pocket finishing tool paths touch your walls. Never though about that! Talk about putting the time in at the computer not at the machine! Love it!
Great inspiration and good job. Watched the datron clip last night so the youtube algorithm made a good job and sent me here. :D
Might try to do one myself on my 6040, would most likely be a "shortboard" due to the 60 cm of travel.
This longboard is insane
This is fantastic! I am really looking forward to the Carbide 3d series!
Nice work and you did a great job of showing how well, and how much, you can do with a light duty CNC Router. Some naysayers are having an anxiety attack!
My Schools Robotics team Recently got an OMIO CNC Router. I would consider it a desktop machine, but we've been able to push 16000 RPM with a .065 inch depth of cut with a feed rate of nearly 15 inches per minute. I've run it at a much lighter depth of nearly .01 inches and gotten a feed rate of nearly 60 inches per minute. And people say desktop machining sucks. Personally, it's amazing I can make parts that were unable to be made before with a mill or by hand.
You can definitely run much faster than that. Try adding a mister and changing to 4+mm single flute endmills if you aren't already. Increase rpm and feed directly in mach3, you want to be going 60IPM plus usually. With a 4mm or larger tool you should be able to do 100ipm, 0.060" DOC with 24krpm quite happily. Your probably running too slow. Winstons videos don't translate too well as the OMIO is capable of cutting more than 10x as fast in Aluminium.
We’re running a mister and a 4mm 2 flute end mill at nearly 60 ipt. But when running much faster reliability issues occur because of chatter. Will look into federate and rpm and depths however, thank you.
Hi! What bit(s) do you recommend for this type of engraving? I didn't see them on your list.
You mentioning Datron is the best marketing for them. Some people watching your show have the funds to buy the datron neo.
wow! nice programming and build! if you make another the deck needs concave for that planted locked in feeling.
I really enjoyed watching your videos. Keep up the good work!
Wait, are you throwing all of those aluminum chips away?!?!
Very nice work indeed! Makes me want to build my own Shapeoko and throw my big arsed DeWalt router on it.
GENIUS! Thank you every day for this channel!
Very cool Winston! I'm looking forward to seeing this and chatting with you at Bay Area Maker Faire.
1st . Really freaking awesome project. You are crazy about CNCs. Thanks for videos.
The Shapeoko being closest to the Datron, in work area, is why I chose it. It's a great untapped platform. I'm pulling out all the stops on my Shapeoko, and apart from tool changer (which maybe someone can help me with someday) I'll have every bit as capable machine that's well within my newbie machining capabilities. Maybe I'll make a video on it when it's all done the way I want it.
That's fucking fantastic man. Utterly jaw droppingly beautiful.
Motivates me to get going upgrading my OX CNC with some half decent drivers so I can more reliably cut aluminium :)
Nice job,total time on machining.
Hello Winston, Great video!!
I noticed on a few videos of late you haven't been using your suckit setup. Is there a reason for this that may be on a video I missed?
Thank you for all the time you put into your videos, you are very appreciated.
Very impressive!
Beautiful board. Worth alot of money because of your story behind creating it. Not a rubber stamped chinese made board.
How do you do those beautiful long sweeping shots like at 00:40?
Loving these aluminum-related videos!!! Could you please link the air pump system you use? I'm looking around on Amazon and don't quite know how large of a hydroponic air pump to get to effectively clear chips.
JUST WOW.
This is so freaking cool man.
You've been reading my mind!
Agreed it's is awesome. nice work Sir
thats one skateboard i wouldnt want getting away from me. real ankle gasher
Cool video!
Bravo. Nothing to add.
Looking good! , maybe you could try anodizing at home, especially if you live in the states, the chemicals aren't that hard to come by.
I'd also like to see this, especially since this part is quite large compared to what most people anodize themselves in videos.
Is there any chance you can share the operation settings? They can even be the templates, I am really curious about those 3d adaptive settings. Just subscribed by the way great content!
I'm very, very interested in the deep-dive CAM details and techniques that you've worked out for cutting AL on the Shapeoko!
Hi Winston , i´ve almost watch all your videos and i do apreciat it if you do a project with whole details from fusion 360 till the end result passing by tool changing and how you do that , i have just own a cnc and got to learn Fusion 360 in about a week , i am doing well axcep some problem with how do i manage to do the tool change and the calibration between tools ..Greetings from Germany
Awesome video! I have a china 6040 and use 3 flute ZRN coated endmills and want to try the single flute like you use. Where can I find them? Quick search at Lakeshore and Carbide 3D didn't pop right up, all I found was 2 flute.
Carbide3D will carry them soon. Melin Tools has some, there are also generics on eBay. Datron has a lot but they can get pricey.
whats that song at the beginning of the video? Its so catchy
This is... amazing. Meanwhile, I tried finding someone who could make me a small, custom aluminum "T"-shaped part that I designed, and all I managed to find were people who sawed off aluminum by hand...
I mean, where would you even find someone with half your expertise?
look at tech schools or EDM wire places. You can say its a school project and you might get a good price.
Winston, this Shapeoko is driven by DRV8825 stepper drivers??
Great work !!! Work to the limits of your creativity not your machine :-)
I really hope 5 axis software becomes more available to the hobby space in the future. Machine designs are already out there and the parts shouldn't be that hard to manufacture, making a driver board wouldn't be that hard, etc. etc., in the end it's just software that needs to catch up.
Having a hobby 5axis machine that can do at least aluminum would be a huge money saver. As outsourcing an aluminum one-off to a cnc shop is ridiculously expensive, and a lot of shops don't take projects unless production is in mind. Finding a casting method can also get pretty expensive, especially with the trial and error methods of learning how to properly cast, not to mention the cost of machines, materials, and fixtures to accomplish casting by itself; plus the addition of a 3d printer if you're going with the lost pla method, costs can get pretty high, pretty quickly.
A rotational gantry, where the 4th axis is hinged at both ends under the x axis rails and holds the mechanism for the 5th axis rotary table, would probably be the best solution for adapting these gantry based machines to 5 axis. Which this design is used in professional machines built to be 5 axis, not the ones that're 3 axis and upgraded with a couple of trunnions.
Having a rotational gantry, if that's the proper name for it, is much more rigid, and probably has better harmonic properties to it. Yes, more expensive, as it's not a one size fits all solution when it's compared to adding a couple of rotary trunnions, but it should be better. Plus with a brand name machine, that brand name could eventually just create the part themselves for their machine; but with off-brand machines and fully DIY built machines, this could become an issue, though hopefully some solid designs become open sourced or available to purchase from a third party.
Very nice! It's great to see it in a semi-finished capacity instead of teaser shots on Instagram. Will you sand it down to make it even for anodizing or let the machining marks show through the anodized layer?
Raw machined look. I think it tells a better story.
How many endmills did it takes for the entire operations ?
I go through them all on the latest Carbide3D video. A 1/4 single flute rougher, 1/4" 3 flute I used as a finisher, 1/8" for the smaller features, chamfer cutter, and ball endmill.
So do you constantly replace the brushes??
I have never replaced a set of brushes.
Very impressive. How do you index your parts on the shapeoko?
Locating pins.
Is machined aluminum a good material for a part like this? This seems like a very carbon part.
Freaking amazing! Seriously inspiring to what is possible to this new Shapeoko owner climbing that steep learning curve to learning the machine and the software.
Also, what are the green, post it note looking things on the end of your spindle arm for?
To help keep aluminum dust off the v wheels. Poor man chip guard.
@@WinstonMakes Ah! Makes sense.
I'm having that issue with wood on mine right now, but that should be taken care of when I get my dust boot I ordered now they are in stock again.
Love the videos! And appreciate you leaving things like your make shift chip guards in them. Makes it much more inspiring and gives hope that I too can learn to make stuff even a fraction as well. And reminds me that seemingly silly things aren't stupid if they work, lol
Good job! Machinist's and Toolmakers use formulas, bakers use recipe's.
How do you recycle the chips
Wait you don't recycle all the aluminum waste?
I wish I could hit the like button twice.
Great work as usual Winston! Too many questions to ask but one is, how many ZrN-coated endmills did you go through to achieve this??
Every type of endmill I used, I only used one of. And then I made another longboard deck.
Ok great, so each endmill lasted for 2 longboards or is there more life still let in them?
There's more life in them.
Could you cnc your own hot wheels?
Some serious ASMR good feels from that last bit where you separate the kick tail from the block.
SUBBED FO DANG SURE.
Please include as much detail as possible for the anodizing process. That will be a new thing for us.
I guess this is the new buff for Winston in overwatch...
@1:01 What?! Gotta Link?????
ruclips.net/video/alx1DKskyrQ/видео.html also in description.
If I sent you a slab of metallic epoxy could you cnc machine it in too a telecaster style guitar, its hypnotic blue and would make a cool video
Next up: CNC-machined protective gear so we continue to have a helpful Winston in the future :)
what about that fatigue though
Sounds like a Carbide 3D advertisement.
You don’t recycle the aluminium?
"I find it to be quite 'German.' That is, so full of technical features that it lacks soul." Dayum.
You really need some flex in a board. Something that stiff would be pretty rough to ride.
Depends if you're riding for a long time or not.
The dislikes are from people with no imagination.
If you want a tessellated pattern but don't want to copy Datron, copy NASA. Get the McDonnell Douglas Isogrid Design Handbook en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isogrid Unfortunately the scan quality is pretty poor, especially the photos. Looks like the PDF was made from an early 1970's photocopy. Would be nice if an original print copy could be found to make a good scan. Page 42 of the PDF has a diagram of the isogrid dimensions used in Skylab.
do you know who much is that datron M8 cost? hahaha
You could anodize the piece yourself. I have seen a few vids about this.
don't trash those aluminum chips. they can be melted and recast again.
oohhh no you could melt the aluminium dust and re-use it !!
gg wp
Get a pop filter for your mic, please.
needs weight reduction, use cars aluminium wheels rims as an inspiration.
Because chip load is important for tool life. But tool is cheap
You find it to be quite german that is lacking soul? one could argue that you are quite german handling this longboard project, which turned out great as a proof of concept, congrats.
Americans have stereotypes for every nation on this planet, yet only 47% have a Passport.
REMELT THAT ALUMINUM
It's heavy, and doesn't bend
Smart idea
Romans 10:9
New International Version
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
It's not a longboard. It's a fishboard.
why are you throwing away all that Aluminum? what a waste.
You wanted something that wouldn't drop draw comparisons to the Datron board, but the basic idea for this project is a clone of their idea.
you simply missed the core concept of a skateboard...
Cnc crasher hehehe