They EXIST! London's Other Railway Foot Crossings
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- From my recent video of the imminent closure of one of London's only open foot crossings, a few people commented that London does have more than one foot crossing, and indeed it does! Maybe not so close to Metropolitan London as the Angerstein Wharf foot crossing in Charlton/Greenwich but still in Greater London nonetheless. In this video, I visit four gated railway foot crossings - one each in the North, South, East and West! We also see a couple of the UK's older rolling stock passing at some of these crossings - the class 313 and 315 which are due to be retired in 2019/20.
The first crossing featured is at Osborne Road, in Hornchurch, East London
The second crossing is off Strayfield Road, Enfield, North London 3:42
Third is at Trumpers Way in Hanwell, West London 7:10
(my mistake on the directions when looking down the track! They are the opposite)
Fourth is Bourne View foot crossing in Kenley, South London 10:01
Credit to NATIVE NOUSE who appears to be the first to film the Strayfield Road Crossing - • London's Other Railway...
My original Video of the Angerstein Wharf Open Foot Crossing - • RARE Alley to a railwa...
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4:40 Never mind "Cyclists Dismount" ... the sign should read "Cyclists - haul your bike over the railings - there's no way you'll get it through this gate" !!
I was going to ask that. It appears some of the gates are designed so that you have to stand in a very small contained area in order to close or open the gates. So if you have a bike forget it.
The Upminster line crossing was made the way it is now due, in part, to (mainly children) NOT dismounting in the past.There are bridges not far away on both sides.
@@jeremywilcox Yeah, that downhill slope on either side would be way too much of a temptation - go down as fast as you can, fly over the railway, and then see how far you can get up the other side before you have to start pedalling again.
obviously, its for those of us on unicycles...!
Emphasis on unicycle and foot-path/crossing. It's obvious that there's no intent on it being used by wheel-chair users. As one of the wheel-chair section now, I hate those 'sheep gates' but they do keep the places, like on the video there, safe. That's the main thing, I defer.
Keep using the by-ways and foot-paths to keep them open because the highways are choked with cars!
Great video as always, you're essentially Geoff Marshall at this point. Really interesting to see the different foot crossings, but the horses really topped it off.
5:20 CYCLISTS DISMOUNT.... and then presumably throw your bike over the gate and retrieve on the other side? Because there’s no way you’re going to be able to wheel it through.
Not wishing to drag you back to Enfield, but Lincoln Road level crossing between Enfield Town and Bush Hill Park must deserve a video in its own right! Technically a full level crossing, but it’s been closed to vehicles for about 6 years following the failure of the equipment - Network Rail hasn’t deemed it worth replacing. This means it’s essentially operated as a foot crossing ever since. But even more notably, it’s manually operated, with an attendant Monday to Friday daytimes and the public left to their own devices on evenings and weekends.
I know the one you mean. My friend visited this crossing ruclips.net/video/ZhVdGCkKkzE/видео.html
What is possibly there to attend to on a foot-only crossing‽
I was there the other week, there appeared to be a signalman who I assumed was doing the points for Enfield Town.
if you use Streetview on google maps - the approaches were photographed in April 2016 but on the crossing itself Streeview jumps back to Sep 2012 when it was still open for traffic !
My driving instructor always used to take me there on Sundays when it wasn't operated to practice 3 point turns.
The way you filmed this video was so satisfying, it was so smooth, it reminded me of how the main character of a first person game observes their surroundings.
Thanks
I love how rural it is with fences and gates.
That was a fascinating update to your record of the London foot crossings. I am intrigued as to why there is such a high fence on one side of the Angerstein foot crossing but not the other side? The second crossing had a "cyclists dismount" sign but I think they would have a lot of difficulty with those gates. As for the third crossing- What a friendly greeting from the horse!
Great video! I personally love the footpaths leading up to the crossings!
It is a nice walk
@@morthren Rather too much panning though...
@@corrigenda70 I think it’s the perfect amount, with no obnoxious animations that ruin the peace
Superb bunch of gems you found there mate, nicely done.
So enjoying these videos. Love urban exploring. Great camera work and informative comments.
Thank you. Great stuff. Haven't been in London for a while. Hope next time I will have the opportunity to visit those foot crossings.
Really great video! I didn’t know about the Enfield one! Thanks!
Great video like the way you don't just jump into the crossing and have a build up. Horse was particularly entertaining
Thanks
Once again a great video and very relaxing. I am guessing you have a gimble of some description to make the filming nice and smooth. I love this type of chilled out relaxed walk along hearing the footsteps it's a lot like ASMR. Keep up to good work.
That London horse was trying to mug you. Glad you got away unscathed.
Very nice video. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you - well done. I loved it. I love trains and crossing the tracks - safely. Many thanks indeed. Cheers
I lived at 12 Cranham Road and used many times. There is yet another foot crossing in Cranham itself linking Heron Way to St Marys Lane via numerous fields on the Fenchurch Street to Southend/Shoeburyness line. Connects via fields I, 2 & 3 then more fields until you end up at The Thatched House Pub.
1:41
Sign: Do not Slam the Gate, This is a Residential Area
1:52
Train: HOOONK!!!!
That's nothing. You ever heard an American horn?
@@SgtChip no, I've never been to America.
@@alexthewoo I see. Horns are much louder here.
@@SgtChip nice
@@alexthewoo It is. My personal favorite is the Canadian tuned K3Ls.
Nice! All nice, but particularly that view of Trumpers crossing from the horse meadow above.
If you ever fancy a trip completely out of town, The Hatches between Farnborough and Frimley Green is particularly attractive. Must be a good half mile and crosses not one but two lines - the Wokingham-Gatwick line at Farnborough North station and the Ascot-Ash Vale line at the other end. A third line - the Basingstoke-London main line - runs parallel to The Hatches just a few hundred yards to the south. The Hatches also crosses the River Blackwater and runs between two old gravel pits.
Sorry if I mentioned the Hatches before. I tend to repeat myself a lot these days.
Just to make you aware there are 2 more in Hornchurch (Also Crossing the Overground Track which you showed in the first clip)
1st one connects Maywin Drive to woodhall Crescent.
2nd one connects Maybush Road to Burnway.
Just found located another in Cranham located in open grassland / forest connecting Kerry Drive to St Mary’s Lane.
Found another 2 in Rainham, but they are vehicle and pedestrian crossings, so I don’t know if this counts:
Ferry Lane just outside Rainham interchange station, it crosses one rail track and then a footbridge goes over a second rail track.
And same applies with the one just up the road at manor way.
Thanks for pointing out some of London's foot crossings - they are all different in the way they're approached, safety fencing etc. The 3rd rail crossing for the Caterham branch is perhaps more worrying for anyone without good sense to stay clear of the rail.
Brian Seaman that's what those triangular lengths of wood are for. They are about 2.6m long and design to reduce the chance of trespass by man and beast. By law they have to be put in place on lines with third rail electrification (they're optional everywhere else).
Neil Dahlgaard-Sigsworth I know, but it would be no problem for some people who are hellbent on trespassing.
Brian Seaman true, you can't stop everyone.
Amazing footage! Congratulations!
I used the Enfield one yesterday, it's on a pleasant walk connecting the London LOOP with a well laid out path across a golf course on the way to Crews Hill
Very safe, formal, visible, gated crossings. I like these. We need these in the US. And beautiful as always. I want to visit!
Great video, thanks.
A bit more about the Enfield foot crossing which I've known for many years, having crossed it both by train and on foot. The path continues past Tingey's Top pond and on to Crews Hill Golf Course. If you walk across the golf course, you emerge on Crews Hill (Cattlegate Road) next to a footpath sign. Turn right, walk a short distance down the hill and you're at Crews Hill station.
Thanks for sharing 🥰
The Enfield one, we squashed so many penny's there in the 1990s while riding our mountain bikes, good times (apart from when we nearly got ran over as we were looking the wrong way).
Great videos!
The Upminster to Romford line never knew there was a foot crossing along it but most of the time it's over grown.
Great video thanks.
Awesome video 🎉
FANTASTIC TOUR
Nice crossings and trains!!!!
First thought. Why are trains from 1980 already due for retirement, then I realized, that's 40 years!!! How time flies by.
In grove park (London) there is a footbridge over the southeastern lines and it has a great view of the train shed. On certain days the trains are more frequent and to get there you need to take a short walk through grove park nature reserve.
Great video! Always like hidden little ped crossings like that, don't believe there are many like that here in the US (at least in my part of the country, lol).
Great video!!
not a "train-fan"...but found this video quite enjoyable ...well done!
There is a SECOND ONE on the Romford-Upminster branch, as well ...
I really enjoyed this vid.
Gr8 vid m8......and birds twittering !
Nice camera work
Very interesting. With the gates just before the rail lines it looked difficult to get a bicycle thro them, let alone a pushchair unless lifted over the top!
I've encountered this type of gate before with a bike - you can just get it through if you balance it on the back wheel (after dismounting!) Only thing it needs a second person to operate the gate!
Great video! These crossings doesn't need to close.
I'll have to check out the one in Hanwell..I go to the UK at least once a year to catch a Brentford Bees game and I stay at the Boston Manor hotel..Something different to see..Thanks!
A fabulous adventure and day out for transport enthusiasts indeed
Very close to the Bourne View crossing there is another foot crossing on the adjacent Oxted line - it's quite interesting because it's right on the county border between London and Surrey :-)
I've seen paths between Eagle Estates in Medford and Gordon Heights, New York that were in better condition than the second one in Enfield.
Great video! Just subscribed!
Thanks mate good vid
This is the reason why I love U.K.
Good job!
cheers
There is one outside my aunts house in woodhall Cresent, Hornchurch Not sure if it's still in use now though.
I honestly want to do train spotting at the footpath in the thumbnail
That was strangely fascinating 👍
Hello Mate that Enfield crossing is where I grew up!
Interesting video
There is another one not far from Kenley on the East Grinstead line on a footpath from the A22 which goes from Whyteleafe to Warlingham. That's a good one, as you get 171s as well as 377s, and they bomb along at about 80mph
With 212 steps leading up over Riddlesdown to the A22 dual carriageway.
212 steps? I never counted it! The A22 isn't a dual carriageway at that point - not until further down after Whyteleafe
7:21 very cute horse
Theres plenty of foot crossings on the Croydon tramlink as well on sections where they travel on old railways like between Wimbledon and New Addington/ Beckenham Junction.
Many of those crossings didn't exist while the lines were "railways" with conductor rail electrification, but were created/converted when the lines were converted to overhead line powered tramway. The Morden Hall RAIB report states that was done to improve accessibility of the routes.
I wonder if the Riddlesdown common crossing in the old quarry is still there. Just up the road from the Kenley one.
I use to live in Enfield and I never knew about that one
"Do not slam the gate. This is a residential area", says the sign next to the train line...
The best of London... Picturesque areas where large real state can be found.
I think there is one somewhere on the Rainham to Purfleet line near the RSPB place that used to be the firing range.
11:03 Live 3rd rail just feet away. Busy line.
VAL VLOG that why they have the anti-trespass devices on both sides of the crossing. These are IIRC 2.6m long (in the direction of the tracks) and the complete width of the crossing.
@@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 How to those anti trespassing devices work they just look like a bunch of wood in a n zigzag shape.
I was actually very surprised to see overhead wire I always thought (and even read about it once that) most of South East England uses 3rd rail and the rest of the UK mostly diesel and some overhead wire. 3rd rail seems very common in England. Especially you seem to prefer to make contact with the 3rd rail from the top. A lot of systems make contact on the bottom and therefore grab under it. So you can put a cover on to to protect people a bit more. In Hamburg Germany they uniquely make contact with the 3rd rail on the other side of the rail.
Pascal S. Third rail electrication is the only electrification system south of the River Thames, other than HS1. North of the Thames, outside of the London Underground, Liverpool and the Watford line, it is all overhead electrification.
The anti-trespass devices are designed to be difficult to walk on and are too long for most people to jump across. They are triangular in cross-section and with a pitch that makes it not easy to keep your footing.
Saw somewhere years ago that the third rail used to be covered with side pickup but that was abandoned in favour of present arrangement. The original Channel Tunnel trains were triple voltage - 25kV France and through tunnel, 3kV DC overhead for Belgium and 750V DC third rail for southern England. The third rail pickup had to be lifted clear in France to avoid fouling SNCF equipment -SNCF placed a concrete block to shear off the pickup if the driver forgot to lift it. Would have been a relief when the new line into St Pancras was opened so they could eliminate the 750V gear.
netking66 that might have been the ex-L&Y Manchester to Bury line which was electrified at 1200V dc and used side conductor shoes, until it was converted in to the Metro-Link.
Thise concrete blocks were put in only after a couple of accidents were the shoes were left out; a Euro-Star train coming off the 25kV forgot to lower the pantograph and had it ripped off on a signal gantry.
What's so special about foot crossings?
Great camera work by the way, love it.
On Your Face barely any in london, and they are dangerous.
TransportFlick oh, fair enough, I ask because I'm live in NZ, and they are everywhere. They even have automated gates, there own alarm thing and lightning system.
On Your Face Most ones with roads do
Love the horses
I love these peculiar little places. And also when I was a kid you could explore all of them without the addition of so many annoying gates and fences!
You should do the 'Iron Bridge' between Goodmayes and Chadwell heath.
Hi.
Unless already commented on, I saw another 2 foot crossings on the Romford to Upminster stretch on Google maps.
Gosh I had no idea that such old trains were still in service! I guess they've updated the seats and stuff over the years?
They are refurbished over the years. The 315 at 2:04 was last refurbished when London Overground took them over in 2015
I ride the trains on the Enfield line and they are horrible. Old, smelly and loud. The new ones are far better
Adam - The 313's have occasionally been re-upholstered, and, _very_ occasionally, repainted, but the underlying seating etc hasn't changed since 1980. As a regular user, I have to say they're not that bad, if a little old-fashioned.
Is there still a foot crossing between Staines and Ashford(Mx) connecting Woodthorpe Road and, I think Village Way? I've moved away years ago but used to use it a lot when I lived locally.
I’ve lived in Romford 15 years and I didn’t know about the first one
I seem to remember there being a couple on that line, but that was years ago.
Great video.☺️ I just subscribed to ur channel.☺️ Did u see the foot crossing in Geoff Marshall’s channel at Westcome Park in Southeast London?☺️
Joshua Hall a.k.a. Controlla I just love the genius Geoff Marshall I want to go on tube trips with him
313 are used by southern now down the coast
I have never been to London, is The Tube separate from the outer electrified system? The Tube uses the third rail and the first two lines here are overhead lines.
Wow, Geoff Marshall has some serious misinformation on these foot level crossings!!
At Bourne View I thought I saw an unprotected electrified third rail. Looks like a terribe hazard.
Lovely to see Hanwell in the video. My local town.
Mine too, West Ealing for me so just round the corner
That's weird. There's not a lot of difference between the 377 and the 375 although they have a massive age gap between them. Also talking about age, the 313's seem very new for some reason although they were built in 1977!!!!
The 375s and 377s are both part of the "*Star" family - all Electrostars from 1999 357s to 2016 387s were, overall, built to a similar "family look", whether they have corridor connections or not. Same thing for the Turbostars, whether 1998 170/1s or 2011 172/2s and 172/3s. Although the latter use a different exterior light design like the 378 "Capitalstars".
The 313s and 315s have been refurbished over the years. in original British Rail form they would look very tired and dated / old fashioned
Whilst it's debatable that it's actually IN london, there is also a foot crossing on the line between theobalds grove and turkey street. It's used mostly by london overground trains heading to and from cheshunt. Nobody else seems to comment on it and i havent seen any videos on it, so maybe that might be worth visiting? it's just off a road called park lane.
Were you perfectly on time at the last foot crossing to record the train? I mean this as in not having to stop the recording for a while
Yes, I looked up the train times to the nearest station and managed to time it just right
Looks like some of the footpaths may have had tracks on them at some point in time.
Just a comment about Trumpers crossing in Hanwell, you had the directions reversed, as you cross from the field to Trumpers Way the left hand goes towards the Great Western main line and the right towards Brentford, the reason I know that area is I used to work at Eailing hospital and that was one of my favourite walks in my lunch break and those horses are gorgeous, they used to follow me around the field for company. Interesting video though, showing crossings I never knew existed.
You're right! What a silly mistake! Thanks for pointing it out. The horses really are friendly
@@morthren And, of course, the line doesn't actually make it to Brentford Docks now. The aggregate site is north of the Great West Road. The old bridge support at London Road/High Street is still there tho'. I used to go under that to school many...many years ago!
A couple of other useless facts. This line is said to be Brunel's last before his death. And there was a short-lived 'halt' at Trumpers Crossing in the early 1900's, partly to service the new golf club at Wyke Green.
Mate you should've visit Melbourne. There re like thousands of pedestrian crossing here
That horse tho awwwwwwwwwww
There’s also one up near amersham
What about Park Lane Waltham Cross towards Cheshunt Travelodge ?
Whats the requirements to be considered a foot crossing? - is it just an official crossing point on foot?
If so, the Upminster - Romford Branch actually has other crossing points along its length. Look at "Maywin Drive" and youll notice a footpath marked on Google maps crossing into Woodhall Crescent.
Its even signposted, but requires you to go over steps to access (rather than a gate)
I’d say whether Network Rail categorises it as a foot crossing on its level crossing map @ www.networkrail.co.uk/communities/safety-in-the-community/level-crossing-safety/
Osborne/Osbourne Road... A abduction took place there 😨😬. Was on the news this morning
Have you been to Mantels wood footpath crossing in Amersham? Chiltern trains pass it on the way to Aylesbury and london Marylebone.
No, I haven't been to that one
OK
What does the green talk to us sign mean?
@@c2c312 it's put there by the Samaritans for people who are feeling suicidal and thinking of jumping in front of a train
Thanks for letting me know
Do not slam the gate. Residential area. Meanwhile a big fuck off train roars by lol.
Does morthren post any more?
Good vid thanks that dirt track I would be too scares of spiders and snakes not for me thanks
6:08 *A CLASS 313!!!*
REALLY?!?!
Sorry I get really excited they're my favourite stock!
Hey! Does any one now what's the reason there are like spikes between the rails or next to the foot crossing?
@Lucianonline My guess from here in the United States is that they are meant to prevent cattle and other hoofed animals from entering the railway's right-of-way.
@@michaela.chmieloski3196 Maybe, but i have heard that they are meant for tresspassers, but that doesnt mean that your idea is false tho.
@@dozilwolf_196 In continuing my read through the other comments after posting to you, I see that Morthren himself states the installations are to discourage trespassers, so there you have it.
Class 313, 315 and the Pacers all due to be retired this year. Any others for the chop?
314s too
I’d wager that 317s are due the chop too
A load of Greater Anglia MK3s (including the DVTs), certainly. Maybe not all sets but a lot of them will be although the 90s won’t because they’re off to Freightliner
Anyone who came up with the idea of the Pacer should have been retired.. or maybe just euthanased..
What do you use to film?
It's a Panasonic Lumix TZ40