Russia’s Destiny: Collective Unconscious and Moral Responsibility
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Here, I explore the concept of the collective unconscious and how it applies to the people of Russia. I claim that each citizen of Russia, or those who identify with the Russian language or cultural identity, bears a moral responsibility to engage with and influence their collective unconscious. The goal is to course-correct Russia's trajectory by fostering peaceful, meaningful change that aligns with the shared aspiration to improve the world. This collective effort requires introspection, awareness, and a commitment to transforming deep-seated societal values for the greater good of humanity.
Love it, Mark. Thank you for bringing your unique and informed opinion to the topics that you discuss. The synthesis of economics, theory, philosophy, and history is so cool!
Thank you Benjamin.
I second that. You stated it perfectly.
@@williammasselink he did and does in all his videos
Thank you very much for this video!!
It may be that hunter gatherers were much better at controlling their bodies. The had a larger proportion of the brain devoted to this.
Thank you Mark, really enjoy your content and its widening of my perceptions and education. Thanks again
Thanks Mark - appreciate you taking the time to create these amazing, thought provoking videos. Thumbs up!
I think it would have been more useful to develop a thought of your own and put it into 3 or 4 reasonable sentences, rather than reapeting the usual obtrusive and meaningless gushing...
Enjoy listening to you Mark. I wish Americans would have Polands mindset on supporting Ukraine. Trump if elected and the Supreme Court here would like that along with this fascist Republican Party! Trump would end the war alright, he already said Russia do what ever the hell you want. I despise him. Anyway thank you Mark. ☮️ & ❤️ Mark!
Trump won't be elected.
Это НАТО делает что хочет через терориста-Украину переходя красные линии вопреки всем договорам требует нефть, газ почти бесплатно Россия обороняется от расположения НАТО у самых границ
Yes - but the interesting thing I why the US society took that direction and how it can be reversed and who orchestrated the transformation as they must be sanctioned even if they are very very rich.
Many Americans do support Ukraine. 🇺🇸 🇺🇦
@@bjrnhjjakobsen2174You better go back in time and sanction Newt Gingrich and Rupert Murdoch.
Hey I'm the 3rd person to watch the video Very cool For me.
Thank you Scott, its morning here.
Hi Mark, thanks for a very informative video - as always. I just watched the first minutes of Lavrov's speech at the UN yesterday, and he said, among other things, that several things had to be done for the UN to function, i.a. he referred to the right of peoples to be free from war and mentioned the US invasion of Iraq in 2002. I had to turn him off. What about Russia's invasion of Ukraine - it all seems completely hopeless.
I couldn't bring myself to watch it. Maybe I'll try later.
There’s no hope for Russia with leaders like Putin and Lawrow. 😢people always talk about the global elites, without recognizing that there’s many Russians being part of this elite, having tight connections to western elites and influencing our societies enormously 😢
There’s no hope for Russia with leaders like Putin and Lawrow. 😢people always talk about the global elites, without recognizing that there’s many Russians being part of this elite, having tight connections to western elites and influencing our societies enormously 😢
Excellent video.
Thank you Steve.
Hey ,I like you ,man !
Great video! Don't forget the alcohol part in Russia and what it does to the brain!😊
According to World Health Org, alcohol consumption in Poland is higher than that in Russia. Do you think it did something to Mark's brain?
That is not true. Hungry is number 1 and Russia number 2. I do not see it here, but I see it in Russia. People here are pretty healthy looking.in Poland and the rates for 2024 are way down the list.
Or just leave Russia, and refuse to fund/ take part of it.
Yes but also fund humanitarian aid.
Very interesting topic again. Thank you!
Mark, I can see from your videos. you have never been a follower, but always followed your own path, you let your intuition and insight, your core knowledge, guide and direct your life. A most respectable trait in humans. Thank you for your presentations, your revelations, and your humanity. I spent a year in Russia and know what you say is so. Slava Ukraini!
Dear Mark another thought provoking video.
Can I recommend you to listen to a recent BBC Radio 4 programme. "The Food Programme", hosted by a lassie called Sheila Dillon, 27 Sep edition. A great discussion on food and how it affects health, especially mental health. Great contributions from Kimberly Wilson , author of "Unprocessed: How The Food We Eat Is Fuelling Our Mental Health Crisis". With contributions from Dr Ally Jaffee, famous chef Heston Blumenthal and educationalist and school dinner advocate Natilie Hackett. One point mentioned during the discussion was that about 25% of all the calories we eat are consumed by the brain. I'm sure you will enjoy listening to this programme.
Your broadcast today puts the spotlight on moral behaviour, be it individual or collective.
I really enjoy your fresh insights into topics rarely discussed in other forums.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you for that recommendation, I tend to like BBC programs.
I'm sure Sheila would be delighted to be thought of as a lassie. 🙂
There's many a gem on R4. I usually have it on as my audio wallpaper.
I didn't catch that episode so giving a listen now on iplayer.
A subject of interest to me is the gut microbiome which also has brain developmental implications amongst others.
Very thought-provoking episode and universal truths.
You doubt everything by constantly analysing? Hello INTP, my friend. 😏
Hello GermanTaffer.
Fantastic (as always) 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Good morning Mark,
Now i will see your video, i know i can make 👍 before i see it.
Have a nice day
Thank you K66a865, have a nice day.
I like how you bring solutions. The Darkness in Social Media and developing a positive Collective Unconsciousness of light may be the battle of our lifetime
Hi Mark, thank you very much for your videos. I fully agree with your message given my recent meeting and conversations I had with a Russian GP who has lives in Belgium for twenty years.
Russian Mentality is a "Bystander Effect Mentality"
Perfect. More so than even under the Soviet Union at this point.
the koala bear evolved to have a small brain. a small brain use less energy
Moral what, again? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Finno-Ugrians were thousands of years longer in Paleolith. That is the cause.
Good point friend.
there is nothing that could prove the genetic link between Finns and Hungarians
Damn mark your channel seems to be growing nice! Good work, Great content.
But anyway he’s channel won’t grow that much at all - there’s simply not that many people able to follow him 😊😜
The Mongol empire was said to be pacified through the introduction of Buddhism. 🖖
I love this comment about Buddhism. Religion plays an important part in the collective consciousness.
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Contrast with the Russian Orthodox Church/KGB synthesis.🤮
I always enjoy your videos, but this one was a bit different. I enjoyed the interesting snippets of information combined with simple moral principles. The morality seems so obvious, and yet, here we are, with millions not 'getting it'. Keep up the good work in spreading your dogma-free, common sense observations, as we all should be doing.
Read "Extraodinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds". An old book but still relevent.
Mark, I disagree. Myth is far older than the brain size change. Jon at Crecganford covers myth, well worth following on RUclips.
From my philosophical position I would argue with late Wittgenstein, and add, that collective unconsciousness is a concept that just summs up many aspects like cultural habits and stories , but is not necessary and even not a scientific view onto the world. From my biological position, it is obvious, that brain size does not correlate to intelligence in the ranges, we are talking about here, either. The complexity in the brain is reached by interactions on so many levels, that I could write a whole book to match it at least a bit. Size is only one factor besides at last 7 further ones that do fall into my mind spontaneously. I will not explain them further, dropping them in a short way is only thought to be a hint at what kind of complexity on different levels I refer to: Increase in surface area due to the variety and type of folds, general type and structure of the network, partitioning and interconnectivity throughout the network, division of labor in the compartiments, interacting cell types and cell fuctions (Neurons, Glia, but also excitatory and inhibitory nerve cell types etc), genetics as the fundamental base - but only in interaction with the environment of an individual - which again matches the cultural aspects mentioned further above and also including nutrition, interactions of neurohormons together with the hormone system of the body in general and throughout the network, .. I´ll stop here, because, I think it will be enough to see, which points I wanted to make. Depth psychology on the other hand, that developed 100 years ago and in parallel to classical modern psychology, reminds me more a bit of those "theories" of homeopathy, that have developed in parallel to and in the early stages of the development of modern medicine, 200 years ago. I am a Neuroscientist, Biologist and have studied Philosophy (especially Philosophy of language and Philosophy of science) in parallel. Greetings from Nuremberg, Germany - and Slava Ukraini
For the terrible one is brought to nought,
and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off: That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought. Isaiah 29:20-21, God's AV1611 Holy Scriptures
3:52 “we didnt need this part of the brain because….because we stored information through stories….called that collective unconscious”. You fail to define collective unconscious, you fail to show why collective unconscious is necessary: we already have the nouns books and stories and society we dont need you to also label it “collective unconscious” that helps in no way. you use an analogy of a bee separated from the hive as if that has anything to do with human behavior. I can say Baby alligators are alone shortly after birth and they don’t die which contradicts your example. You have a baseless argument and your asserting patterns that are evidence you think is significant.
I love Jung, Campbell, and even Bronowski. However, most people think they are dated or woo-woo today. Robert Sapolsky is another matter, even though he focuses on physical evolution not the development of ideas and cultures. He points out how tribalism is in our brains, as it were. How culture evolved symbiotically with our biology and now the power of culture is so immense he posits we don’t even have free will-a contested conclusion. ruclips.net/video/ke8oFS8-fBk/видео.html
Assuming we are knowingly creating our societal structures. The beauty of Canada and America is that our systems attempt to establish countries free of racism; the evolved biological tendency to group people into “one of us” and “the other.” We aren’t doing very well. But we are doing better than any other country in the world today. There is hope for Russia. But not until their culture is redefined.
I enjoy your talks because you know how to think. I agree with you about skepticism. One of my credos in life is: Question everything, especially yourself. I’ve been a habitual reader for over 50 year. I have read (not studied) most of Campbell’s work and some Jung.
Up to a point, I suspect that there is validity to the idea of a collective unconscious. Let me offer a somewhat different perspective. The collective unconscious might be a metaphor for something a bit more tangible that allows for, perhaps, a more tangible solution. The solution may take centuries, but it needs to be introduced to the Culture, or as I would say, the Collective Conscious.
The problem might be that people do not know how to think. I suggest that one of the functions of the brain is to make logical sense of our perceptions/reality. If we allow our brain to accept “false” information as “truth”, our brain creates a reality to accommodate this “false” information. As the “false” information piles up, you can imagine the twisted and distorted views of “reality” people have.
The short answer to the solution is a radical change to the educations system so that we teach people how to think. Learning how to think is not easy to say the least. And everyone from the academia to basically all the powers that be would likely fight it tooth and nail.
I do not think that the essence/ethos/whatever of humanity has significantly changed since…? Part of the “solution” needs to be the long game.
Respectfully
David
What you say about neutrality is always is on the side of the agressor has direct economic consequences. Switzerland's armament industry is starting to feel the negative consequences of being neutral in the Ukraine conflict as most of their contracts are coming to term and not being renewed.
I love stories about strangers helping strangers. It reminds me that people are generally good.
Good morning Msrk. Great analogy of the war in Ukraine woth your incident at St Petersburg. It's criminal the RuSS police didn't investigate a criminal act of a RuSS against a foreigner. It shows the general uncivilisedness of that society.
Keep well and Slava Ukraine.
Dictatorships by their nature historically tend to be paranoid and/or empire building bullies. Democracies tend to be economic predators rather than war mongers.
Doubt is the beginning of wisdom, faith feeds ignorance.
Carl Jung was as much of a quack as Freud.
Collective memory needs a definition so we know you are not into woo woo.
That's an interesting take. Just a brief intro : I read a lot of Jung's books since I was very interested in that notion of a collective unconscious. I also read a lot about symbolism, like tarot cards and the like. Nothing like occult B.S. I also am a hardcore skeptic.
And I know for a fact that human beings ability for non-verbal communication is MUCH higher than most people suspect, to the point that it feels like telepathy. Once again, nothing supernatural in this, it only works when you're in the physical presence of the other party. And it's not conscious. It's probably a relic of our time as hunters, like how wolves can act as a pack without language.
You posit that the collective unconscious is somehow stored in the social fabric, which is rather different than what Jung was driving at, I.E that all humans have a deep layer of symbols and archetypes that we all share somehow. But then again, Jung didn't really try to determine if that was present in our brains or in our society...
The idea that that deep layer of archetypal concepts would be stored in the social fabric, probably largely relying on this subconscious, non-verbal communication, is quite interesting. But it has some very positive and also very frightening implications.
The collective unconscious does not only have positive archetypes, like the solar hero. It also has very dark figures and symbols.
What do you do when a society is seized by such dark figures ? How do you get back to the light ? How do you consider the people that are in such a grip ?
And what of the responsibility of those that drive such a dark descent ? How do you reconcile that with free speech ?
I'll try to think of that. Anyways, thanks for the message, it opens a very interesting train of thought.
Hunter gatherers individually were smarter than human's today, but also more much more aggressive and living in small-isolated tribes.
Human society today is infinitely larger, delegates functions to groups, creating an infinitely smarter, less fragile, superorganism.
I very much enjoy your broad views on things and your general positive attitude. Always looking forward to the next video. Keep on doing the stuff you are doing, please continue with your mission. I enjoy your thoughts and discourse.
Hope MAGA and Russia just lose, I am tired of Donald Trump, just leave us alone.
A connecting aspect: If there is an overall human (sub)consciousness, being neutral equates to abandoning the collective responsibility of that consciousness.
More starkly phrased: How "human" are you when you opt to look away?
We can say: alright, then maybe there is a collective conscious per state and interests of the state and the collective are therefor 1) co-aligned 😂 and 2) indipendent from other states and collectives.
These 2 points are obviously false but narratives in isolationalist / nationalist circles desperately try to make the case ..
Thanks for your videos btw. Sometimes a bit hard to follow but I feel inspiration and hope through you from time to time.
Thanks for an interesting start to Sunday. Over the years I have realised their is one key rule to life - There is no free Lunch. And one approach to life - everything we do is based on assumptions about fact not the facts themselves because they are often to complex to interpret in real time or for many, to research. So always keep checking your assumptions (doubt your doubts) and keep looking for the actual price of your actions. Russians could do well to apply both to their thinking because Putin's war on Ukraine is clearly built on false assumptions and demonstrably isn't free.
Jacob Bronowski and his seminal TV series The ascent of Man come highly recommended. A little slow by modern standards but also by modern standards an amazingly dense assembly of Thought and Reasoning and still incredibly relevant. From the same era as the equally seminal Cosmos by Carl Sagan - back when TV was more than reality TV. In the same genre I would recommend Kenneth Clarke's Civilisation. All or parts of them can be tracked down here on RUclips.
Is it any wonder that Our Lady of Fatima requested that the pope consecrated Russia to her Immaculate Heart for the sake of peace and conversion of its people? The fact that such a request was made for Russia, but not for Germany and Japan of WW2 is very telling. German and Japanese societies, bad as they were up to, and during WW2, nevertheless had redeeming features that enabled them to make a turn-around; Russians lack such redeeming features, and thus need to be showered with grace from the outside. I cannot fathom why pope after pope refused to consecrate Russia in the manner requested by Our Lady of Fatima.
Thank you for making this loud and clear! United for justice peace!❤💙💛❤!
My - German - grandmother always used to say: leave thinking to the cows - they have bigger heads 😂
She used that when somebody did something wrong and was arguing with: but I thought…😅
The collective unconscious and things like corrosive skepticism are interesting concepts. Import for countries!
"We need to reach down and touch people." I will never forget that part from The Accent of Man.
As much as I love watching your videos, I think Ukraine is in the back foot in this war and may even lose.
Doubt is what Trump thrives on😮 it would not suprise me that if he gets in and they let there guard down. Bam. Got ya😮 then he ill claim he his the smartest. I pray for all .
Since we do not still live in caves, I think there is some excess of constructive urges over destructive urges.
Good episode. Agreed that we need to step up and stop the bully each in our own way.
Great video, and as a Brit can i also say that i love Poland. Will be going for the 10th time in November (Poznan) :)
Love your work Mark, great to see powerful intellect doing good.
"Collective Unconscious" Well put!
This channel is growing. Keep up the good work.🎉😊❤
Collective Unconscious, not Collective Unconsciousness
Why don’t you put a video of you cliffdiving on?
Thanks.
свобода это рай
Love from Cumbria
Thanks again for another high-content video!
Ruzzian with morals is an oxymoron.
Thank you, Strength and love.
Turn your cap around.You are not 15 yo.🇺🇦
I always look forward to Mark's vids.
Justice for Ukraine!
I love history economics!
Any tips on learning Polish?
THANK YOU Mark !!!!!!❤
Thanks, Mark.
Thank you Mark! 👍❤
If doubts are your start point for truth then your baseline is fear and not love…
Descartes uses doubt in his meditations in his pursuit of truth, the ultimate good.
Just another excuse for hate. A false sense of status. Your truth at whatever cost.
@@raymondkey1952You're way off base here and missing the whole point.
Doubt is perfectly healthy.
Fear and criticism of doubt is not.
Scepticism has often led to the truth where doubt was feared.
Suppression of doubt has all too often led to a severe lack of love.
@@bakedbean37 They're not allowed to doubt Putin in Putin's Russia, as in any repressive dictatorship.
Thank you Mark.
Well said!
Very perceptive
BRILLIANT IDEAS- HOW COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS CORREALATRS
Russians think their collective conscience is something higher while proving opposite by deeds
Everything and everyone interconnected? You just described Buddhism. My take on this is the Buddha was the actual father of modern psychology and a social scientist rivaling Aristotle.
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Tak!
Joseph Campbell, one of my mentors.