10-8 Performance Lab, Episode 37: Staccato P Throwdown
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Hilton Yam of 10-8 Performance compares the 2019 and 2020 models of the Staccato P.
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Classic presentation, appreciated.
Thanks for the reviews. Always super informative. All the best
Love the intro/outro riffs!!
Excellent explanation! As always..
Thanks!
I spy a kemper profiler head in the background. I’m assuming you are doing all the guitar work at the beginning and scene changes? 🤘🏻
Yes, I play all the music on the videos (minus the programmed drums). Kemper was cool with all the tones it could offer, but I am just an analog guy from the 80's so I sold it.
Looking forward to a video on the new slide plates you worked on with the new iron sites. Waiting till I need a battery change to jump.
Awesome video, put my fears to rest about getting the newer model!
You know whats funny? 10-8 sights are actually the best iron sights on the market by far. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised though, Mr Yam is indeed a gun guy. I guess it goes to show, gun guys will create better stuff than engineers that arn't gun guys.
Why did they stop the full length dust cover? That was one of my favorite features. I still bought my 2020 staccatos but would have loved the full length dust cover.
I agree I wish that was standard on the newer models, I think is partly to do with the increased volume they are producing, unfortunately I don’t think we are going to see the same level of machining on the super small details but shootability seems to be the same from my experience.
I think it helps lower weight , that is my guess
got my 2021 staccato p about 2 weeks ago.. best gun I've ever owned. Carry it on duty everyday...I did get hooked up by staccato and got an extra 3 mags , I assume due to a little miscommunication that put order 5 days behind.. still got it with in the 21 days .
I bought a 2022 Staccato P DUO five days ago and waiting for my LAS Saya AIWB holster to arrive.
I’ve been intrigued w the design since I learned about it in the 90s. First with the .45 for obvious reasons, then the 10mm. As I learned they were mainly geared for competition use, I stood fast. When the Marauder was released, I got excited! The only reason I didn’t buy it was because I couldn’t find information about it being duty/defensive rated. Then the Staccato was born… and since I’m not a beta tester, I waited a bit. My local dealer had a few flavors available, and that set my wheels in motion. I went back sometime later, and out of stock. When I went back to attend a class, there she was in a beautiful glass case above some Wilson and tuned P320 variants. After licking the windows for a few minutes and eyeing the clock as the store (register) was closing, I asked if I could see the Staccato P. She was perfect and the gentleman was more than happy to conduct the sales process. I was eight minutes late to my class, but all were accepting as they knew what I was buying.
what do you think about Bull Armory 2011's Tac models
Staccato is my grail gun, someday I will be able to afford one.
I saved up for literally eight months so happy I got one, it puts all my other pistols to shame
@@i_Kalash That is my plan to start saving up for one and then buy once I have what I need. I figure it might take 8 - 9 months but I am sure it will be worth the wait.
@@idraw4me181 It definitely is I wish you luck hopefully they’ll still be available in that time God knows what Biden is planning on doing with the second amendment
I have a P, I prefer my Beretta m9. I’ve done some polishing and changed the hammer spring on the m9 but that’s it. I have a shadow 2 I prefer over the P also. I’m fortunate enough to own quite a few race guns and I find the staccato to be in the middle of the pack for guns I own or have shot. There’s nothing wrong with the staccato, I have no complaints but I think there’s better for less money.
which P's has better fit and finish in your opinion?
Man I love you’re channel, and all the content you put out! Do you think staccato will release another staccato p duo next year? And if so, around what month or period of the year? Thanks.
I like the 4.45 better, just wish they still had the full length dust cover!
Glad you did some comparison between the two version. 4.45' is a little bit soft shooting but 4.15' version has a much better finish. It's little bit shiny and super smooth and durable. Beside, the full rail looks more tactical compare to the 4.45' one. And the grip, I don't want to say it's my personal opinion but every single person I met who got both told me the same thing: 2020 version grip has nothing to compare with the 2019 version in terms of comfortability. STI is just want to cut the cost(no magwell?) and increase the production quantity to meet the demand.
Thanks Hilton for the great videos and specifically this review. Since you now own a C2 and your P’s what are your impressions of the C2 v P 4.15? Is the P 4.15 the Goldilocks between the C2 & the P 4.45?
The P 4.15” is the “grail” IMO as it’s about as soft as P 4.45 but with the ODS grip it’s about as concealable as the C2 (except some bit heavier, but a good rig makes that moot). Sadly that Grail configuration is about as easy to source/assemble as the actual fabled cup.
@@108Performance Thanks Hilton! My quest will continue. All the Best!
You mention “as you will see in the throwdown” that the times were similar. I would have liked to see more shooting and times etc rather than just have you mention them. Love your channel.
jeffshootsstuff Thanks for watching. Times were basically
identical and in Ep30 there are some side by side Bill Drills with times.
I just picked up the 2019 model, love it. But who would you recommend to mill the slide for an RMR with Trijicon plate? I want the milling to be coated but to not touch the rest of the dlc. Thanks in advance.
Contact CHPWS.com for their options. You really can't just coat the one spot, so you either redcoat the whole slide or leave the milled area bare.
Someday maybe I'll have a 2011. In the meantime I'll be over at the webstore for a new 1911 front sight.
Do you have any reccomendations for a fixed rear tritium for the 2020 lpa style stacatto p? I've had trouble determining compatible heights
will magwells for gen 1 grips still fit the gen 2 grips? there are very limited magwells for gen 2 grips as of now. thank you.
Do the your basepads still work with that gen 1 DVC magwell for your 2019 Staccato P? Thanks!
Yes, as the pictured gun is using 10-8 pads during the video segments.
Can you do a video of installing the Atlas Aluminum trigger on the 2011 Staccato P. Thank you.
Watch ep35 on 2011 Flat Triggers
@@108Performance This video doesn't show the installation process. Thank you.
Imo. The 4.45 with adjustable sights is looks better than the others.
Just cant decide between a 2020 p or c2
Hey man i got a 2020 staccato p 4.45 and i got the iron sights i put a magwell on the gun and it looks great , do you think i can order the chrome slide from STI with the duo or i will have to get another gun ? I love how the chrome looks on the slide.
Marco Villavicencio The 2011 slides and pretty much all the parts are gunsmith fit, not Lego/drop on like Glocks. If you want a chrome slide it has to come on the gun.
@@108Performance thank u so much
I am looking at used 2020 Staccato P if I want a Holosun 508T on it who would you recommend to do slide work? You don't do this do you?
At time 1:05 in your Video..... The blue trigger on the 2020 Stacato P.... Is that metal or polymer? And did you have to file the gun or make any adjustments to put it in?
Cheely Custom Gunworks, requires gunsmith level fitting for safe function.
Is anyone had failures to extract issues. I did a short 200 range session and I had 25 failures to eject. In over 3000 rounds my Staccato P has on done this a couple of times before so I'm confused
Check your mag. I took all of mine apart and put slight bit of gun oil coating on the plastic sides and the insides of the mag. It has helped a lot. Also, I clean my gun after each range session, and key is to keep it clean from debris. Never had an issue with my P.
Is the blue trigger an aluminum? Do you have a video installing it? Also, where do you get it? Thank you.
Watch ep35 on 2011 Flat Triggers
@@108Performance Did you do it yourself? Or did you have a blacksmith do it? I would like to see the process. I saw one from another person who recently added an Atlas flat trigger, and it looked simple, but it did require the slight filing of the top and sides of the trigger section of the grip. Would love to get your take on it.
This is what I got with the BOW from Atlas. It is the Vario trigger it seems. But I am assuming the Bow that it comes with should fit the trigger fine, since it is from the same company. atlasgunworks.com/product-details?id=1928675
Carry ammo recommendation. Thanks
Here you go: pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?99-Self-Defense-and-Duty-Loads-ballistics-info-by-DocGKR
Not a gun question but what is the MM2 patch on your uniform shirt behind you? Thanks
PC B My call sign.
@@108Performance Thanks
Machinest Mate 2nd class?
0:24 What targets are those? Ive been looking to find the best portable 2x4 mounting option
Defense Targets, Noner (Mike Pannone) mini torso.
@@108Performance Are they rifle rated or pistol caliber only
When will the magazine release be available?
JJx5o within 2 weeks or less. Please email via the site as these comments are tough to track.
Thanks
Hi Hilton hopefully you or somebody would see this comment and can answer some questions I want to know. So I'm debating which one I should get between 3 guns all Staccato. 1st one is the 2019 Staccato P Duo Saami Black with the 2nd gen grips 2nd gun is 2020 Staccato P 3rd gun is Staccato C. I think I narrowed it down to the Staccato P. I watched many reviews including yours on differences between 2019 and 2020 P's in terms on down the line if I were to sell it which one is more desirable and has more resell value. I'm a little confuse on the 2019 model I see them with the older treebark grips the one that I'm interested on buying has the 2nd gen grip with the stars also I've seen most Staccato if not all has that DLC coating on the gun more shinnier thank the one I'm looking at which on the tag state Saami Black which is like a flate matte Black finish. Which finish would be better between the 2? I'm sure between the 2 models older 2019 or newer 2020 are similar in terms on how they shoot. Just now I just have to decide if I want the older moder with the DUO or the get the newer 2020 model without the DUO. If i went with the 2020 P model can I send it in the slide to Staccato to get the DUO cut on it? Thank you and I hope I will get some replies. Jim
2019 DUO - it's optic ready and they only made that size format for 1 year. It's my favorite of the various sizes/formats. Just as a pro tip: if you wish to ask detailed questions or be sure to reach me, you'll do better emailing through the website.
So do u like the c2 or the 4.4 p.
Hilton, with all that said, which one do you carry daily?
Keith Vance C2
Rgr that