This is a great video. I kinda wanna make the trans girl equivalent to this video because as a trans woman that passes it's kinda bizarre feeling the difference between how you used to be treated vs how you're treated now. And even though passing is a privilege of itself, if you pass as female there's certainly a sorta shocking moment where you realize that people don't really respect you the same way they did.
I never think i pass until i do. Once I went to a Mcdonalds, minding my own business and waiting in line then me and this girl both step up to the counter, me being the submissive nice guy I am about to step back to let her go first but the guy at the counter looks right at me and says "What can I get you, young man" im there like 'bro im about to let her go first' but she just smiles and steps back and im left there stuttering like an idiot because that had never happened
Yeah, I just get reallllllly aggressive when male sphere convo's go wrong. Other dudes seem to chill fast around me as long as you call it off STRONGLY. I.E. Don't go emotional, just hit it hard as "That is a rape joke.... That's f'ing not OKAY, BRO" and they instantly just stop.... Then you bring up something else and command the situation. Trans-life!! Subvert and recalibrate your brothers!
That's niche satire. Satire can be harmful. Satire that doesn’t challenge what it is satirizing is not satire, and most people who use racism/homophobia/etc. in their comedic style definitely don't make any challenges. If the supposed satire in question only makes the people meant to mock it feel catered to/justified, then it isn’t good satire, or satire at all. It loses whatever criticizing merit it had going to it if it’s completely and utterly indistinguishable from whatever it is that is being satirized. People use this type of humor to justify their racist beliefs a lot of the time, and that's disgusting. The problem with “I’m not really racist [or sexist, or homophobic, etc.], it’s just a joke” is that it makes positively zero difference. Saying something prejudiced automatically caters to prejudiced people. They fucking love it. Every neo-nazi fascist skinhead and fundie bible-thumping zealot adores that you’re making jokes about black people or trans women and trying to pass them off as harmless nonsense. You’re giving them fuel, giving them shit to hide behind, making them feel like you’re on their side. Who else would jokes like that be for? The highly specific portion of other people you believe “aren’t really” racist but also find your allegedly “fake” racism funny? Do you realize how small a demographic that’s always been? Of course not, it's all just "social justeece warrior bullshit" and refusal to listen.
@@crab5862 Lol, why did you have to make me aware of cringy comments I left five years ago? Thank you for your concern tho, I actually did find help a long time ago.
I'd like to see more videos about how to navigate a world one wasn't socialized in. like making friends with cis males or working with cis male colleagues.
Just be yourself, don't dwell on this, it's hard to navigate the world regardless of how you are. So just be kind and open about how you feel and just deal with things as they come. Don't go looking for things to be worried about. Everybody has different privileges. There is nothing we can do about it. Just be yourself and treat people how you want to be treated. If someone's not treating you the way you want to be treated then correct them in a polite way. That is the best way to navigate this world.
For me, being read as male makes me extremely self-conscious of the space I take up and how my presence affects others (namely, women and other marginalized genders and people). Whether I'm walking down the street, sitting on the bus, speaking up in class... I'm now extremely self-conscious of the fact that people view me as male and that in doing so I am utilizing male privilege. I don't want to be like ignorant cis (esp. white) men who walk through this world without batting an eye at all the space they take up that consequently pushes others to the edge. I want to contribute to the improvement of society and make the lives of others who are marginalized safer and better. But the first step in doing so is to be aware of my privileges... Namely, male privilege. The thing is though that having male privilege is an extremely new thing for me, and I am still adjusting to the fact that I no longer live in this world as a "woman." Going outside and realizing that I am no longer a target for catcalls and creepy men is both refreshing and unsettling. I'm still the same inside, but my outer shell determines how people around me perceive and treat me. And that terrifies me.
+sandtime23 Wow, your self hatred is sad. Men in the west are less privilege than women in my opinion. Who did this to you? SJW and Feminists are disgusting human beings.
Any man should speak up regarding rape "jokes". It's not a funny topic and any decent person would say something, regardless of gender or identity. And while I agree with you that male privilege exists when it comes to jobs, promotions, or whatever, our litigious society kind of squashes that a bit. No company wants a discrimination lawsuit. The topic of male bonding talk about women and sex is difficult. I can always tell when the guys at work have been talking like that. They clam up faster than the speed of light when I get within earshot (or maybe they were just trash talking me :-O ) I think the majority of men either think all men talk that way, or they do it because they think they are supposed to. Not sure yet on that one.
As soon as I pass, I just can't wait to randomly say "When I was a girl scout" Because I was in the goddamn girl scouts back in elementary school, and left when I realised "O.. i am not very feminine. they too girly. meesa say goodbye". XD
you know, I used to use confusion as mask. I was always a masculine child, (bio female, 16 years old, trying to find the guts to come out to parents) but when people would question my gender as a kid, I never got offended, I only got embarrassed because i thought the people around me who knew me were embarrassed. then when my friends said stuff like 'you are very boy-ish' 'Nah, she's just a tomboy, it's cool', I'd be like, well it confuses people as to what gender I am, and I like having that, I know something about you stranger whilst you know nothing about me. I was a weird kid..
This is such an interesting topic. I'm straight, and I'm a born female, identify as female, all that good stuff. But I was raised in a VERY gender neutral environment. My parents raised me and my sister the same as they raised our brother. I was told that I have the right to objectify men in the same way that men objectify women. That I have the right to one night stands and to basically (pardon my language) "shake it off" and leave when I'm done with them. I'm generally "one of the guys" in my social circle and I talk as if I were a guy (people comment on that all the time). Don't know where I'm going with this, but it's a super interesting topic. (Y) Thumbs up Chase!
When I went to the doctor, a nurse there was happily referring to me as male until she brought up my file and then switched to female pronouns, until I said that actually the male ones were fine. Then she happily switched back, with a really impressive lack of discomfort. (Or if she was uncomfortable then she was hiding it like a pro - but I really think she just didn't care.) There are a fair number of people out there who don't seem to care either way, is my point, and they don't treat you any different; but naturally there's still a whole lot who do care, and do treat you different. When you do come across someone like that nurse, though, it makes you feel pretty good.
So I just happened upon your videos today and spent the last two hours watching a ton. I really appreciate your views and ability to relate information. You've really opened my eyes. I had no clue how to wrap my head around sex/gender/orientation. But you've really helped. I've concluded that my best bet is just to respect people's identities and always treating them as fact. And then just move the fuck on. Thanks again!
I'm the same way, but I'm pre-everything and barely pass. Really. Big rack, feminine voice - but I learned pretty quickly that I didn't care about living up to other peoples' expectations on what it is to be "masculine" or "feminine". It's to the point that I completely ignore the whole concept of masculinity and femininity. We're all human with unique personalities and quirks and ideals, those things shouldn't be altered because of our sex. I want to get on T and get top surgery ASAP. Still considering my options for bottom surgery. Even though I'm not comfortable with my body, I'm comfortable with my personality regardless of whether I come off as "girly" or "boyish". I know who I am and what makes me happy. I just wish the entire world shared the same view.
I believe male privilege exists because I have experienced it. When I was out as lesbian I didn't get the same " acknowledgment" as I do now if that makes sense.
The worst it like if i am seen as a guy its a guy younger 3-2 years than i actually am... So when I'm adressed as a male in idk bookstore and im coming home like "WOOHOO I PASSED" and then i go to the shop and i hear "anything for ya young lady" I just want to die forever- is that normal..?
U r an awesome person! I been following you for a while. i feel like you had show me a bunch of points that I fit in and couldn't explain what it was but you cleared it for me. Thnks again.
Hey, just found this video and I have to say: You're totally right. I can relate to all the things you say. Soon I will get on T an you take up all my fears of the world I was'nt sozialized in. Thank you for sharing your thoughts
This is the first time I've ever seen or heard someone talk about this subject. I'm not even sure how I didn't find this video sooner. But I want to thank you for talking about this because I deal with this every single day and it's so difficult for me. I think it is so difficult for me because it's so soon into my transition and I'm pre-t and pass 100% of the time. It's extremely hard for me to make male friends and talk to other men because my voice isn't as low as theirs and I'm not as masculine as them and I don't really.. know how to talk masculine? Like when you said you could be at work and these male coworkers are talking like, "Oh I just fucked this bitch" and they talk about what men are supposed to talk about and I just don't, can't talk about that stuff. It makes me so uncomfortable. I just get so much anxiety when it comes to interacting with men and I thought I was the only one haha. Thank you Chase for bringing this up, and sorry for finding this video so late
Can't you be a really vocal and outspoken feminist without outing yourself as trans? What I often react to most is how a lot of guys who call themselves feminists think that they can't be active and react to sexism cause they don't think it's their "fight". Everyone needs to get involved.
No, you can't. Many guys operate at herd mentality. If someone steps outside that mentality, by being feminist in a masochistic group for example, they are put under a microscope and examined. This leads to people discovering secrets, such as transgender status.
ericpaul698 this is bullshit. if they have no idea you are trans and say this sexist shit in front of you why would they think you are after you call them out? if anything they'll just say something about you being a weird male feminist or something. very little chance they're gonna investigate your gender identity
***** Calm down. No if it's just that one thing, no one is going to suspect anything. However with trans guys it's not just that one thing. They have smaller wrists, many trans men are shorter then the average male, many have a more hesitant attitude in comparison to their peers and so on. It's about avoiding the accumulation of evidence. Any one thing could break the camels back. That said, I think speaking out is an admirable action to take and it's worth the risk if it might give someone reason to think.
i am calm....there are plenty of small cis men so i really don't see the problem. if you carry yourself in an assertive way and have been on t for a significant amount of time i don't see many cis people being able to tell. i'm not saying go up to a bunch of dudes in a bar who are drunk and tell them to fuck off, i'm saying that if you are in a situation like what chase said at a restaurant and the waiter is only talking to you, be assertive and say 'my girlfriend is here too, she can speak for herself.' or something. the waiter isn't gonna check your pants for a dick. yes, it's situational but i think most situations you can call another dude out without outting yourself.
@@ericpaul698 I somewhat disagree with that. I felt insecure about my wrists and hands for a while, but T has shifted my proportions. No one has any idea about me unless I say I am. I used to work with the public all the time and everyone is all over the place in terms of sizing. I find it harder to fight some of the privilege/misogyny stuff, but I find you have to pick your battles. I'm also the height of an average male so that works in my favour.
I am really enjoying your videos! I am planning to talk about some of these things in my videos, and it's good to see how other RUclipsrs approach these topics.
I don't really ever think I pass but one time I ?apparently? cut some guy in line at the soda machine and he was so pissed. I apologized but he seems like he wanted to fite me. I guess if I presented as female he wouldn't have been so rude. This is kinda more like the opposite of male privilege
Thanks for making this, dude! I came out 4 months ago and ever since I started identifying as male at school, I've noticed that the male side of society IS SOOO different from the female side. I used to love rough housing before I started Middle school, but I stopped being so rough and masculine because "girls aren't supposed to be like that." Now that I'm in high school, I'm trying get back to how I was 4 years ago before I was thrown into the female box. I agree with you that it does suck that there isn't just an equal section between the gender spectrum in society's eyes. I mean, where the hell do androgynous, gender queer, and gender fluid people go? How do they navigate the system? It's definitely a huge change to cope with and adapt to. It definitely wasn't something that I thought about when I started transitioning. I feel like this is also such a huge topic that is ignored by the trans community. So thanks again for bringing this up and actually acknowledging it.
this is such an interesting video, the world is so fucked up... it is just sad that women are treated like that and that lots of men are blind about this situations. My dad is an amazing guy and having three daughters he learnt a lot about how to treat women with respect, and yet I caught him in situations in which he allows my brother (who is 5 years younger than me) to think that he (my brother) can have some kind of power over us, I don't know how to explain it, like he can decide things for the 'benefit' of my sisters and me.. it is a hard work to keep constantly my brother in his place.... ok I will end this rant here lol... well, just wanted to say that I like your videos a lot, this in particular transmits a nice sense of freedom, I wish I could be that confortable on my own skin... good luck man, you seem an awesome person.
Wow fascinating topic, and I couldn't agree with you more. My brother is a Trans guy and we have talked about this, not in detail as you did. I just love your personality, you are truly an awesome guy Chase :-)
enlightening indeed!!! your video made me think of how I have experienced the opposite as I am mtf... I did not know there was male privilege till I became a woman... all of a sudden men feel allowed to comment on you as you walk down the street... or if you send your cv suddenly you realise you have less chances to get the interview... so on and so forth... I might make a video actually! thank you x
I really like this: you are a very thoughtful an eloquent young man (I am feeling wicked old today). You brought up a lot of good stuff that I was unaware of (being all cis person-ish)... So, forgive me if I am intruding on a space that is not for me... But , I wanted to let you know that I found you to be very funny, charming and genuine... and I am so down with anyone who loves cats! (my spouse and I have several...as well as a chinchilla)
Thanks for this. I noticed the difference at around 8 months on t. I was very uneducated about male privilege so I was confused. Other men would just want to chat about random stuff with me. Guys I didn't know would be like thanks man when I would hold a door. Strange, took me by surprise!
Thanks for this video Chase - for the past few years I've been trying to reconcile with the fact I now have male privilege despite not feeling like I have it
Chase, I litteraly thought you were gay 😂 but when I pass 100% as male I think It would be quite liberating to act flamboyant and the way I am when I'm happy and people still see me as male
the uke™ - That sucks. I also like crossdressing because I like feeling feminine and stuff but I find that as trans guys people expect us to "prove" our gender by behaving so stereotypically masculine. Which is horribly heteronormative and just, well, horrible. I'm so sorry that happened to you sweetie.😔🙇
Thank you Chase. Great video as always. Yes privilege is what people give to you, so if a person is not seen as male they won't get that particular privilege. Although they might get race privilege or class privilege or any other depending on their circumstances in life.
Hey this is the owner of UpperCaseFANS on instagram ^^' Since we've talked, I've managed to pass better. But my mom has become downright abusive. She refuses to say anything but negative comments. Her reasoning for not liking me being trans is because she wants me to have an 'easy life'. I tell her I'd rather have a difficult life and be happy with who I am instead of an easy life and hate myself. Your videos help her understand a bit, but she's still not grasping it. Advice?
When I was dating, I felt so awkward bringing up that I had a boyfriend. I usually was very neutral when it came to gender related stuff & although I never have been physically attracted to anyone, not even my ex, I still would check out girls but I also would look at men. Odd thing is, if I ever saw a guy that I thought was cute, he was always scrawny. What I'm getting at is, I guess you can say I'm a woman, I feel more in the middle but everyone who knows me knows me as female but since I'm definitely not the sort anyone would ever think would have a boyfriend, they were always surprised when I brought it up & I felt so weird about it. I never even told my parents I was dating since it felt like I was doing something wrong. He could tell I felt that way so he talked to me about it & we decided that breaking up was the best option but we're still friends.
Omg the resocializing thing sucks. I can't seem to get it yet especially because I was socialized as a female for so long, and because I'm not straight. I have my feminine side, so its really hard for me to talk to guys and be friends with them unless they are trans or gay. Even then my qualities and characteristics have stuck so I'm sensitive and I notice guys straight or gay mess around a lot and "tease". Idk if I'm ever going to get it.
Hey Chase, this is a pretty random vid for me to leave a comment on, but I just wanted to say how much I appreciate you. I'm at my university working on my research project about my experience of campus spaces as a non-binary geography master's student. The speakers at my computer don't work so I am literally just watching your cute face as I write along side of it. Your resources are amazing and I really admire your honesty. I think we would be friends IRL. I had a trippy moment when I was watching a review video of yours earlier, when I noticed the trans flag in the background and wondered, "why does Chase have a trans flag?" DUH. It dawned on me that you pass so well that I forgot you were a trans man while simultaneously listening to how you sexually pleasure yourself - lol. Sending you so much love. Some of your trollier comment sections (like on the truscum video u made a while ago) actually made me get out of bed to go work on my research. Today is the first day in a long time that my gender expression (mostly) is matching my internal sense of gender.
You should make more videos about this topic, Chase! It's really interesting and we don't usually find trans people willing to talk about this. There are lots of things that can emerge from this topic. It would be definitely great! All the best, mate!
I really like your vids Chase butttt I think it's wrong to say that pre-T transguys don't pass. I've had a few people say that they thought I was a cisguy and they were really surprised when they found out I was trans... And even if I don't pass I like to pretend I do because most of the time people don't comment on it so yeah... great video anyway :)
My first introduction to this world was when I was on Facebook, and I replied to someone to tell them where to buy an adult version of a product... And someone told me I was mansplaining. I didn't bother explaining myself to them. And I feel this lesbian thing so hard, I was a lesbian before I decided to transition and no matter how hard I try, I'm still pre t (soon!) so I barely get acknowledged properly. I always gravitated towards female friends so I don't understand the male world at all heh... Hopefully someday I'll understand.
I feel like the weird thing for me was that as a female passing person, if I called a girl celebrity hot or fit, or said I wanted her to bang me, it was like ' go girl ikr she's damn finnneeee ' but if I say anything similar now, as a fourteen year old male, people call me out for stuff that I'd never be called out for when female passing. It's weird. I don't want to accidentally objectify someone but I'm scared I will and be seen as sexist
CHASE, please answer I have a question! About passing, when you say sometimes passing is a little unrealistic because most of the time people won't (sorry if I completely misunderstood what you said). Anyway, I have not started T have not taken any steps toward transition ( I plan to someday though;). I am 13 but in my opinion I feel like since I have been "boyish or tomboyish" I feel that I have always passed (for now). Which if you want (and believe me this isn't a way for me to somehow get you to subscribe to me) but please feel free to check out my channel and please tell me if you agree that in a way I pass. But, takes deep breath is it possible for someone to pass without taking any steps toward transitioning and still have some what of a male privilege? ( I'm sorry for having such a long back story but imma open up to ya Cause I look up to you. And tbh you and FTMTranstastic are pretty much my escape from society:)!
I think male privilege is present in society, but I would refer to it as masculine privilege because feminine men aren't as privileged as masculine men (you mentioned that) But also because a female acting slightly masculine isn't as looked down upon in society as a male acting slightly feminine. I remember when I was younger (I questioned my gender at a young age), I remember thinking that I was either a feminine guy or a masculine girl and that I would rather be a masculine girl. That was only because, at school, it was the feminine guys who got picked on and not the masculine girls (at least, that was my experience by the age of 10). So, I think masculine privilege is present (this including people of all gender identities with a more masculine gender expression) but that, with in that masculine privilege, there is male privilege. Of masculine people, those that appear more male, are more privileged. So, a girl acting like a boy isn't as "bad" as a boy acting like a girl. I consider that situation "masculine privilege". But, a boy acting like a boy is "better" than a girl acting like a boy and a boy acting like a girl. That I consider male privilege. I think being privileged based on something so unrelated to a person's true character is so stupid. I don't have much experience (14 year old feminine pre-everything transguy) but that's just my opinion.
Cay Lynch I'm SUPER late but yes you make a very valid point. For most of my life I identified as a butch/stud lesbian and I work in a male dominated industry. I find that people treat me a little better than my more femme counterparts and respect me a little more. Granted they don't see me as an equal but they sure don't talk down to me the way they do my femme counterparts and they respect me just a TAD bit more YET I'm still seen as female to them so I do not get the full affect of MALE privilege just yet. (Just starting to come to terms with being trans and planning on starting T soon =} )
I agree with everything you say. I'll never see what's wrong with acknowledging that I benefit from privilege. No-one's saying men never face persecution for their gender (which they do, but less often and in fewer situations than women) but I'm definitely more privileged. Some of the shit some other guys say is pretty bad. I call them out on it and I've never been seen as less of a person for doing so. That said, I don't encounter these types of guys as often as people say, but I'm the kind of person who ignores conversations, keeps a low profile and makes a point to surround himself with people who aren't horrible, so there's that.
That's not privilege, nor is any of the stuff he's talking about. Privilege implies that it's codified by temporal or personal law, and we both know that temporal law always trumps personal law. Male privilege does not exist because men and women must follow the exact same laws, regulations, etc. However, female privilege absolutely exists when one considers Affirmative Action, VAWA, etc.
+Xavier Duncan wahaha, so hilarious, this is great satire. I imagine how you give a speech like that and struggle to keep a serious face. Keep on like that and you're gonna be a great comedian once! (I mean, if you manage to beat all the big, well-known comedians who all are women)
dasMaiki Or the old ass comedians that continue to do great work like Bill Maher. Or comedians that get their own shows like Trevor Noah. I'm not saying that women aren't talented, no one would insinuate that. But privilege requires that the privilege be codified. There is no law that women have to follow that men do not. However, there are laws that men have to follow that women do not. Men and women are also treated differently by the law.
+At13000FeetAGL There is absolutely no such thing as male privilege. These are the facts. 1. Women live 5 years longer than men. 2. Men are forced to do all the dirty/dangerous jobs of society, front lines of war, oil rig worker, coal miner, deep sea fisherman, toxic chemical jobs etc. 3. Men are 80% of the suicides. 4. Men are 80% of the homicide victims. 5. Men are 75% of the homeless population. 6.Women get less jail time for the same crimes as men ( much less). 7. 93% of the on the job fatalities are men. 8. The divorce courts favor women. 9. The custody courts favor women. 10. Men pay 68% of the Social security tax, but only collect 40% of the benefits. 11. Women control 70-80% of the purchasing power in America. Where is the privilege? Men are the disposable gender. It's an evolutionary fact. Women have the relatively rare and valuable eggs, men have the sperm which is plentiful. So men are considered disposable, and women are protected by society.
appreciate this vid very much. would love to see a vid with a trans man of color/trans masc person of color views. im still learning how to navigate the world read as masc and a person of color.
I've never thought about any of this, I have some mental disorders that like to disconnect me from my younger years. I will say whatever I want to whomever I want. If I'm passing as a guy and was born a woman and a guy is talking about anyone in a derogatory way I will say what comes to my mind, usually "ew" because I'm very close to asexual and get uncomfortable with anything adult fun timey. If it's a woman talking about how men are scum, I'd do the same, and say what comes to my mind, and say "probably, it really depends on who you attract, maybe you just attract bad ones, I got a good one." XD I don't conform to anything for anyone. I am me, and no one is going to influence that.
Meh.. As a man, i'd say genders are pretty even. I see just as many powerful CEOs and managers wherever i go. Socially there will always be a difference, as it's just how we evolved as a species. As far as rights are concerned, in western culture we've made leaps and bounds and the line is pretty gray. My work actually favors woman as managers because they micro manage much better in general.
I'm sure each place is different, that's the thing generally groups will favor a gender or another, however on a much larger scale it tends to even out. Confirmation bias is pretty big, when you have an idea set, you tend not to apply as much cognitive attention to the details that don't favor your mindset. Were all guilty of it, it's how were made. We just need to keep this in mind when we make our conclusions in life.
The issue with cis men is they don't see that they have male privilege because they were born with it. If you spent one month as a female, you'd change your mind.
One difference is men are not really entitled to the same emotional freedom as women. Women can express themselves in a way freely, that men don’t have. Men have to always keep to together, always be in control.
Also it's interesting haring 'the other side' as it were, because I'm interested in misandry and the social expectations men deal with and toxic masculinity etc. If we put our heads together we can write a 'man handbook' lol
I am a gay transman who had a mastectomy but I stopped my testosterone because I don't want to be on synthetic hormones for life. And because of this I don't pass. But it is so frustrated to be hit on by straight men...
I think it's an interesting topic, and it seems strange, but I guess human nature when I see trans guys who are totally unaware and start using words like c____ and so on. I have called them on it, and then they act like I made them feel unsafe in trans space. Come again?
Thanks for posting this... I'm FtM and I have my first gender clinic appointment next month. I'm also a feminist and I felt a huge conflict before coming out, as I love women and really hate how people are read as women are treated and before coming out, I felt the word "man" came with the baggage that reflected my own negative experiences growing up. I guess a big turning point with me was meeting other feminist trans guys and also, the realisation that I'll still be me, despite looking different at some point. Have you been in the same work sector since transitioning? I'm openly transgender in work and using male pronouns... I work with disabled adults. I people watch a lot and feel my job is very gendered, like the emotional labour between people (I read as/am introduced to as) "male" and "female" is really different... The amount of body contact, tone of voice, methods of communication. I really like working in my job, but I feel it will be an adjustment to make, especially with working in environments where I am going to day centres and people may not know me. Visibly queer... I'm pansexual/queer and have a girlfriend. We're read as a lesbian couple a lot I feel, when we're out in the streets. I do worry a bit about being read as a straight cis guy, though I tend to be read a lot as a lesbian, or as a straight trans guy when I say I have a girlfriend... Do you mind me asking, if you're attracted to men, do you feel more comfortable with this now than pre-T? Femininity... I'm quite a camp guy, but try to appear as masculine as possible (I feel a bit better since being out 100%)... Do you feel there was a point where you could present femininity more comfortably? Hope you're having a good weekend. Seb x
+lizokitten2 If you ever divorce him. I'm sure his privilege of you being treated as a victim and just awarded shit based on your gender will come in handy :) or the fact if you have kids. The court will award you custody in 88% of cases. The fact his 89% more likely to kill himself than you are. 98% more likely to die at work. Just as likely to abused but have no shelters or awareness. Men are now less likely to get into higher education, 68% less likely. Yes he is so much damned privilege, you must be proud. Maybe its time you checked your own privilege.
+Becks B Lol. Some of that is plain wrong (68% less? I think you mean 68% of...), some of it is grossly exaggerated ("no shelters or awareness" more like not enough), and none of it is systemic privilege. Some of it, as you pointed out, is as a result of women being considered victims, which is comes from misogyny. Some of it, like the issue of suicide, is not clearly related to some sort of systemic anti-maleness. (I would posit it has more to do with biology, male psychology and the structure of the modern world.) I have not heard any evidence that the lower rates of admission are because of anti-male bias, and I really see no reason to assume that is the case. In short, while the BROAD strokes of what you are saying are correct, you don't seem to understand what systemic privilege is, so feel free to look it up. I don't think everything is necessarily easier for all men than it is for all women -- and men have their own unique issues that are also born out of misogyny. Everyone is hurt by hate and oppression -- the oppressed, the oppressor and everyone else involved. My husband has struggles with how to be a masculine man in a healthy way in our modern society and I would never belittle his struggle. I have a feeling though that you're just trolling and you don't care to think deeply about this stuff so whatever.
+lizokitten2 There is absolutely no such thing as male privilege. These are the facts. 1. Women live 5 years longer than men. 2. Men are forced to do all the dirty/dangerous jobs of society, front lines of war, oil rig worker, coal miner, deep sea fisherman, toxic chemical jobs etc. 3. Men are 80% of the suicides. 4. Men are 80% of the homicide victims. 5. Men are 75% of the homeless population. 6.Women get less jail time for the same crimes as men ( much less). 7. 93% of the on the job fatalities are men. 8. The divorce courts favor women. 9. The custody courts favor women. 10. Men pay 68% of the Social security tax, but only collect 40% of the benefits. 11. Women control 70-80% of the purchasing power in America. Where is the privilege? Men are the disposable gender. It's an evolutionary fact. Women have the relatively rare and valuable eggs, men have the sperm which is plentiful. So men are considered disposable, and women are protected by society.
LOL talking points. All I had to do was google "counterarguments MRA talking points." You should try it. Here's a few links to get you started. Have a good day. debunkingmras.wordpress.com/2014/03/12/debunking-the-mens-rights-movement-x/ mic.com/articles/90131/the-8-biggest-lies-men-s-rights-activists-spread-about-women#.E9iuZR75p
Um I think you mean WHITE male privilege. I love ya Chase but for a self id'd feminist this video sure lacks a shit ton of intersectional aspects to the trans male experience. Class Race Access to Healthcare people who weren't socialized female or had single moms etc etc
It's not that he's saying pre t trans men can't pass. He's saying some ppl just can't. It can be caused by many factors. I can pass cause I have a more masculine posture and my facial structure. I also have a deeper voice than a regular female usually does.
I am armed with a quote I found recently that basically says, while not all men are rapists, all rapists think all men are. So. Should the situation arise, I'm prepared to be the 'party pooper'. Though I'm used to being that person anyways. So actually, it ends up not being helpful because no one is going to respect my opinion anyways. Hm. Is there a happy median between always calling out and only waiting until rape jokes? I'm really interested in gaslighting and how the principle of it could be used positvely. Positive manipulation? Hm. Suggestive guidance? I'm not saying I'm going to manipulate people, but it's quite an interesting thing to think about. How can this awful, negative, abusive tool be learned from and utilized in a positive manner? I think what you're doing is great, and actually probably the most wise. As I said earlier, your opinion has to gain value and respect. You can't do that with hostility or creating a space where others would trust you. But I am fiercely, overly proactive, and if nothing else a lover of psychology. So. It's an interesting proposition at least. --- Thanks for making this video. On both ends, er.. All ends, you don't get the socialization if you don't pass. I'll leave that shitstorm lying, but it does have some consequences. I was almost raped by a transwoman, and one of my transmasculine friends was sexually assaulted by a transwoman. I don't want to get into it. I'm not in any form bad mouthing our wonderful trans-sisters. But I firmly believe (to be binary about it) that each trans person carries the burden of their socialization. The patriarchy fails literally everyone. --- I think it will be interesting to see what happens as I pass. Having autism makes my socialness rather awkward. Actually, to extend it out, I would like to know how the experience differs for anyone with social issues like anxiety or anything that would make a person keep away from others. There will still be male privledge, but I'm curious of social interaction and friendships will change at all. It would seem you'd have to be buddy-buddy with guys in order to get to the level of them telling you about women. Hm. --- Thank you. Many things to ponder.
Hey! It's fun to see your evolution after having not seen you for awhile. In the interim, I've had interesting opportunities in my professional life to provide customer service to a couple of young people on their trans journeys. I strive to treat everyone (customers) like good friends. It's heart warming to see the fear of my reactions melt away when I provide the same welcome & kind service that they were witnessing before our encounter. My most recent person was excitedly telling me about his hysterectomy & that was why I had seen relatives picking up his things for him. It was nice to see him so happy. I hadn't thought about your topic here before. I'm glad you've touched on it. I witness wild privilege for males in my industry. It's weird, for sure.
I never thought id ever hear you say "Too many Trans"LOL and there's nothing wrong with cats. Cats are cool. All they have to do is sit around and look cute and they get fed and loved. Its a good life. Im going to come back in another life as a cat. pur pur pur. There's a big difference between having male privilege and being a douche bag.
Because you pass as male, it allows you to say rape jokes are wrong?? What does male or female, passing or not passing have ANYTHING to do with speaking up about rape??
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This is a great video. I kinda wanna make the trans girl equivalent to this video because as a trans woman that passes it's kinda bizarre feeling the difference between how you used to be treated vs how you're treated now. And even though passing is a privilege of itself, if you pass as female there's certainly a sorta shocking moment where you realize that people don't really respect you the same way they did.
I'd be really interested to see this video if you decide to make it! c:
240AG I'm def gonna make it!
Kat Blaque yes please do kat!
Tony Stark lol.
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I never think i pass until i do. Once I went to a Mcdonalds, minding my own business and waiting in line then me and this girl both step up to the counter, me being the submissive nice guy I am about to step back to let her go first but the guy at the counter looks right at me and says "What can I get you, young man" im there like 'bro im about to let her go first' but she just smiles and steps back and im left there stuttering like an idiot because that had never happened
Yeah, I just get reallllllly aggressive when male sphere convo's go wrong. Other dudes seem to chill fast around me as long as you call it off STRONGLY. I.E. Don't go emotional, just hit it hard as "That is a rape joke.... That's f'ing not OKAY, BRO" and they instantly just stop.... Then you bring up something else and command the situation. Trans-life!! Subvert and recalibrate your brothers!
That's niche satire. Satire can be harmful. Satire that doesn’t challenge what it is satirizing is not satire, and most people who use racism/homophobia/etc. in their comedic style definitely don't make any challenges. If the supposed satire in question only makes the people meant to mock it feel catered to/justified, then it isn’t good satire, or satire at all. It loses whatever criticizing merit it had going to it if it’s completely and utterly indistinguishable from whatever it is that is being satirized. People use this type of humor to justify their racist beliefs a lot of the time, and that's disgusting.
The problem with “I’m not really racist [or sexist, or homophobic, etc.], it’s just a joke” is that it makes positively zero difference. Saying something prejudiced automatically caters to prejudiced people. They fucking love it. Every neo-nazi fascist skinhead and fundie bible-thumping zealot adores that you’re making jokes about black people or trans women and trying to pass them off as harmless nonsense. You’re giving them fuel, giving them shit to hide behind, making them feel like you’re on their side.
Who else would jokes like that be for? The highly specific portion of other people you believe “aren’t really” racist but also find your allegedly “fake” racism funny? Do you realize how small a demographic that’s always been? Of course not, it's all just "social justeece warrior bullshit" and refusal to listen.
@@crab5862 Lol, why did you have to make me aware of cringy comments I left five years ago? Thank you for your concern tho, I actually did find help a long time ago.
I'd like to see more videos about how to navigate a world one wasn't socialized in. like making friends with cis males or working with cis male colleagues.
Just be yourself, don't dwell on this, it's hard to navigate the world regardless of how you are. So just be kind and open about how you feel and just deal with things as they come. Don't go looking for things to be worried about. Everybody has different privileges. There is nothing we can do about it. Just be yourself and treat people how you want to be treated. If someone's not treating you the way you want to be treated then correct them in a polite way. That is the best way to navigate this world.
For me, being read as male makes me extremely self-conscious of the space I take up and how my presence affects others (namely, women and other marginalized genders and people). Whether I'm walking down the street, sitting on the bus, speaking up in class... I'm now extremely self-conscious of the fact that people view me as male and that in doing so I am utilizing male privilege. I don't want to be like ignorant cis (esp. white) men who walk through this world without batting an eye at all the space they take up that consequently pushes others to the edge. I want to contribute to the improvement of society and make the lives of others who are marginalized safer and better. But the first step in doing so is to be aware of my privileges... Namely, male privilege. The thing is though that having male privilege is an extremely new thing for me, and I am still adjusting to the fact that I no longer live in this world as a "woman." Going outside and realizing that I am no longer a target for catcalls and creepy men is both refreshing and unsettling. I'm still the same inside, but my outer shell determines how people around me perceive and treat me. And that terrifies me.
+sandtime23 Wow, your self hatred is sad. Men in the west are less privilege than women in my opinion. Who did this to you? SJW and Feminists are disgusting human beings.
Well said
Any man should speak up regarding rape "jokes". It's not a funny topic and any decent person would say something, regardless of gender or identity. And while I agree with you that male privilege exists when it comes to jobs, promotions, or whatever, our litigious society kind of squashes that a bit. No company wants a discrimination lawsuit. The topic of male bonding talk about women and sex is difficult. I can always tell when the guys at work have been talking like that. They clam up faster than the speed of light when I get within earshot (or maybe they were just trash talking me :-O ) I think the majority of men either think all men talk that way, or they do it because they think they are supposed to. Not sure yet on that one.
As soon as I pass, I just can't wait to randomly say "When I was a girl scout" Because I was in the goddamn girl scouts back in elementary school, and left when I realised "O.. i am not very feminine. they too girly. meesa say goodbye". XD
You covered this topic so well and the way you've coped should be good lessons for many.
you know, I used to use confusion as mask. I was always a masculine child, (bio female, 16 years old, trying to find the guts to come out to parents) but when people would question my gender as a kid, I never got offended, I only got embarrassed because i thought the people around me who knew me were embarrassed. then when my friends said stuff like 'you are very boy-ish' 'Nah, she's just a tomboy, it's cool', I'd be like, well it confuses people as to what gender I am, and I like having that, I know something about you stranger whilst you know nothing about me.
I was a weird kid..
This is such an interesting topic. I'm straight, and I'm a born female, identify as female, all that good stuff. But I was raised in a VERY gender neutral environment. My parents raised me and my sister the same as they raised our brother. I was told that I have the right to objectify men in the same way that men objectify women. That I have the right to one night stands and to basically (pardon my language) "shake it off" and leave when I'm done with them. I'm generally "one of the guys" in my social circle and I talk as if I were a guy (people comment on that all the time). Don't know where I'm going with this, but it's a super interesting topic. (Y) Thumbs up Chase!
man i didn't think about the restaurant waiter thing til now, that is a really awful thing we do
When I went to the doctor, a nurse there was happily referring to me as male until she brought up my file and then switched to female pronouns, until I said that actually the male ones were fine. Then she happily switched back, with a really impressive lack of discomfort. (Or if she was uncomfortable then she was hiding it like a pro - but I really think she just didn't care.) There are a fair number of people out there who don't seem to care either way, is my point, and they don't treat you any different; but naturally there's still a whole lot who do care, and do treat you different. When you do come across someone like that nurse, though, it makes you feel pretty good.
They like to categorize into two boxes.......couldn't agree more
They as in the other half of the two? Yeah that’s what I thought🥱🥱
You don't have to out yourself in order to stand up for women and call out sexist bullshit.
FranckByNature yes. 100% yes
When have you ever seen women standing up for men
@@duncanhewitt6557when have you seen a man deal with sexism outside of social media
So I just happened upon your videos today and spent the last two hours watching a ton. I really appreciate your views and ability to relate information. You've really opened my eyes. I had no clue how to wrap my head around sex/gender/orientation. But you've really helped. I've concluded that my best bet is just to respect people's identities and always treating them as fact. And then just move the fuck on.
Thanks again!
I'm the same way, but I'm pre-everything and barely pass. Really. Big rack, feminine voice - but I learned pretty quickly that I didn't care about living up to other peoples' expectations on what it is to be "masculine" or "feminine". It's to the point that I completely ignore the whole concept of masculinity and femininity. We're all human with unique personalities and quirks and ideals, those things shouldn't be altered because of our sex.
I want to get on T and get top surgery ASAP. Still considering my options for bottom surgery. Even though I'm not comfortable with my body, I'm comfortable with my personality regardless of whether I come off as "girly" or "boyish". I know who I am and what makes me happy. I just wish the entire world shared the same view.
I believe male privilege exists because I have experienced it. When I was out as lesbian I didn't get the same " acknowledgment" as I do now if that makes sense.
Dude, you are super down to earth about serious issues and it is awesome.
The worst it like if i am seen as a guy its a guy younger 3-2 years than i actually am... So when I'm adressed as a male in idk bookstore and im coming home like "WOOHOO I PASSED" and then i go to the shop and i hear "anything for ya young lady" I just want to die forever- is that normal..?
U r an awesome person! I been following you for a while. i feel like you had show me a bunch of points that I fit in and couldn't explain what it was but you cleared it for me. Thnks again.
Hey, just found this video and I have to say: You're totally right. I can relate to all the things you say. Soon I will get on T an you take up all my fears of the world I was'nt sozialized in. Thank you for sharing your thoughts
Show me a legal law that gives you privileges
This is the first time I've ever seen or heard someone talk about this subject. I'm not even sure how I didn't find this video sooner. But I want to thank you for talking about this because I deal with this every single day and it's so difficult for me. I think it is so difficult for me because it's so soon into my transition and I'm pre-t and pass 100% of the time. It's extremely hard for me to make male friends and talk to other men because my voice isn't as low as theirs and I'm not as masculine as them and I don't really.. know how to talk masculine? Like when you said you could be at work and these male coworkers are talking like, "Oh I just fucked this bitch" and they talk about what men are supposed to talk about and I just don't, can't talk about that stuff. It makes me so uncomfortable. I just get so much anxiety when it comes to interacting with men and I thought I was the only one haha. Thank you Chase for bringing this up, and sorry for finding this video so late
Can't you be a really vocal and outspoken feminist without outing yourself as trans? What I often react to most is how a lot of guys who call themselves feminists think that they can't be active and react to sexism cause they don't think it's their "fight". Everyone needs to get involved.
No, you can't. Many guys operate at herd mentality. If someone steps outside that mentality, by being feminist in a masochistic group for example, they are put under a microscope and examined. This leads to people discovering secrets, such as transgender status.
ericpaul698 this is bullshit. if they have no idea you are trans and say this sexist shit in front of you why would they think you are after you call them out? if anything they'll just say something about you being a weird male feminist or something. very little chance they're gonna investigate your gender identity
***** Calm down. No if it's just that one thing, no one is going to suspect anything. However with trans guys it's not just that one thing. They have smaller wrists, many trans men are shorter then the average male, many have a more hesitant attitude in comparison to their peers and so on. It's about avoiding the accumulation of evidence. Any one thing could break the camels back.
That said, I think speaking out is an admirable action to take and it's worth the risk if it might give someone reason to think.
i am calm....there are plenty of small cis men so i really don't see the problem. if you carry yourself in an assertive way and have been on t for a significant amount of time i don't see many cis people being able to tell.
i'm not saying go up to a bunch of dudes in a bar who are drunk and tell them to fuck off, i'm saying that if you are in a situation like what chase said at a restaurant and the waiter is only talking to you, be assertive and say 'my girlfriend is here too, she can speak for herself.' or something. the waiter isn't gonna check your pants for a dick. yes, it's situational but i think most situations you can call another dude out without outting yourself.
@@ericpaul698 I somewhat disagree with that. I felt insecure about my wrists and hands for a while, but T has shifted my proportions. No one has any idea about me unless I say I am. I used to work with the public all the time and everyone is all over the place in terms of sizing. I find it harder to fight some of the privilege/misogyny stuff, but I find you have to pick your battles.
I'm also the height of an average male so that works in my favour.
I am really enjoying your videos! I am planning to talk about some of these things in my videos, and it's good to see how other RUclipsrs approach these topics.
I don't really ever think I pass but one time I ?apparently? cut some guy in line at the soda machine and he was so pissed. I apologized but he seems like he wanted to fite me. I guess if I presented as female he wouldn't have been so rude. This is kinda more like the opposite of male privilege
Thanks for making this, dude! I came out 4 months ago and ever since I started identifying as male at school, I've noticed that the male side of society IS SOOO different from the female side. I used to love rough housing before I started Middle school, but I stopped being so rough and masculine because "girls aren't supposed to be like that." Now that I'm in high school, I'm trying get back to how I was 4 years ago before I was thrown into the female box. I agree with you that it does suck that there isn't just an equal section between the gender spectrum in society's eyes. I mean, where the hell do androgynous, gender queer, and gender fluid people go? How do they navigate the system?
It's definitely a huge change to cope with and adapt to. It definitely wasn't something that I thought about when I started transitioning. I feel like this is also such a huge topic that is ignored by the trans community.
So thanks again for bringing this up and actually acknowledging it.
this video is like the culmination of all my deepest fears about passing
this is such an interesting video, the world is so fucked up... it is just sad that women are treated like that and that lots of men are blind about this situations. My dad is an amazing guy and having three daughters he learnt a lot about how to treat women with respect, and yet I caught him in situations in which he allows my brother (who is 5 years younger than me) to think that he (my brother) can have some kind of power over us, I don't know how to explain it, like he can decide things for the 'benefit' of my sisters and me.. it is a hard work to keep constantly my brother in his place.... ok I will end this rant here lol... well, just wanted to say that I like your videos a lot, this in particular transmits a nice sense of freedom, I wish I could be that confortable on my own skin... good luck man, you seem an awesome person.
Wow fascinating topic, and I couldn't agree with you more. My brother is a Trans guy and we have talked about this, not in detail as you did. I just love your personality, you are truly an awesome guy Chase :-)
you are so awesome
This is one of my favorite videos of yours. Really interesting to listen to you sit here and process of all of this
enlightening indeed!!! your video made me think of how I have experienced the opposite as I am mtf... I did not know there was male privilege till I became a woman... all of a sudden men feel allowed to comment on you as you walk down the street... or if you send your cv suddenly you realise you have less chances to get the interview... so on and so forth... I might make a video actually! thank you x
Lol... I talk about my cats, I talk about Rent... You crack me up dude.
I really like this: you are a very thoughtful an eloquent young man (I am feeling wicked old today). You brought up a lot of good stuff that I was unaware of (being all cis person-ish)... So, forgive me if I am intruding on a space that is not for me... But , I wanted to let you know that I found you to be very funny, charming and genuine... and I am so down with anyone who loves cats! (my spouse and I have several...as well as a chinchilla)
Finally got around to making my response to this video.
Thanks for this. I noticed the difference at around 8 months on t. I was very uneducated about male privilege so I was confused. Other men would just want to chat about random stuff with me. Guys I didn't know would be like thanks man when I would hold a door. Strange, took me by surprise!
one time i got called a "insensitive prick" because i could grow facial hair pre T
its just a thing that happens
Thanks for this video Chase - for the past few years I've been trying to reconcile with the fact I now have male privilege despite not feeling like I have it
Chase, I litteraly thought you were gay 😂 but when I pass 100% as male I think It would be quite liberating to act flamboyant and the way I am when I'm happy and people still see me as male
so can you be ftm and cross dress and use the boys rest room? i tried it before but got beat up
the uke™ - That sucks. I also like crossdressing because I like feeling feminine and stuff but I find that as trans guys people expect us to "prove" our gender by behaving so stereotypically masculine. Which is horribly heteronormative and just, well, horrible. I'm so sorry that happened to you sweetie.😔🙇
Thank you Chase. Great video as always. Yes privilege is what people give to you, so if a person is not seen as male they won't get that particular privilege. Although they might get race privilege or class privilege or any other depending on their circumstances in life.
your laugh is actually my favourite.
Hey this is the owner of UpperCaseFANS on instagram ^^' Since we've talked, I've managed to pass better. But my mom has become downright abusive. She refuses to say anything but negative comments. Her reasoning for not liking me being trans is because she wants me to have an 'easy life'. I tell her I'd rather have a difficult life and be happy with who I am instead of an easy life and hate myself. Your videos help her understand a bit, but she's still not grasping it. Advice?
Tip for pre-T guys: Write "I'm a man" in place of your moustache in black marker. Then people won't have an excuse that they "didn't know"
When I was dating, I felt so awkward bringing up that I had a boyfriend. I usually was very neutral when it came to gender related stuff & although I never have been physically attracted to anyone, not even my ex, I still would check out girls but I also would look at men. Odd thing is, if I ever saw a guy that I thought was cute, he was always scrawny. What I'm getting at is, I guess you can say I'm a woman, I feel more in the middle but everyone who knows me knows me as female but since I'm definitely not the sort anyone would ever think would have a boyfriend, they were always surprised when I brought it up & I felt so weird about it. I never even told my parents I was dating since it felt like I was doing something wrong. He could tell I felt that way so he talked to me about it & we decided that breaking up was the best option but we're still friends.
Omg the resocializing thing sucks. I can't seem to get it yet especially because I was socialized as a female for so long, and because I'm not straight. I have my feminine side, so its really hard for me to talk to guys and be friends with them unless they are trans or gay. Even then my qualities and characteristics have stuck so I'm sensitive and I notice guys straight or gay mess around a lot and "tease". Idk if I'm ever going to get it.
Hey Chase, this is a pretty random vid for me to leave a comment on, but I just wanted to say how much I appreciate you. I'm at my university working on my research project about my experience of campus spaces as a non-binary geography master's student. The speakers at my computer don't work so I am literally just watching your cute face as I write along side of it. Your resources are amazing and I really admire your honesty. I think we would be friends IRL. I had a trippy moment when I was watching a review video of yours earlier, when I noticed the trans flag in the background and wondered, "why does Chase have a trans flag?" DUH. It dawned on me that you pass so well that I forgot you were a trans man while simultaneously listening to how you sexually pleasure yourself - lol. Sending you so much love. Some of your trollier comment sections (like on the truscum video u made a while ago) actually made me get out of bed to go work on my research. Today is the first day in a long time that my gender expression (mostly) is matching my internal sense of gender.
You're a good person. Thank you for sharing.
I love listening to you, your thoughts are always incredibly interesting.
You should make more videos about this topic, Chase! It's really interesting and we don't usually find trans people willing to talk about this. There are lots of things that can emerge from this topic. It would be definitely great! All the best, mate!
I really like your vids Chase butttt I think it's wrong to say that pre-T transguys don't pass. I've had a few people say that they thought I was a cisguy and they were really surprised when they found out I was trans... And even if I don't pass I like to pretend I do because most of the time people don't comment on it so yeah...
great video anyway :)
I would say they can, but it's unlikely that they will pass all the time.
Thank you for this! I wish more men were feminist like you, and instead of fearing the word they read what that is all about.
Brilliant! Love it. Male priveledge is so real and rampant in all it permutations. Great ending😉
My first introduction to this world was when I was on Facebook, and I replied to someone to tell them where to buy an adult version of a product... And someone told me I was mansplaining. I didn't bother explaining myself to them. And I feel this lesbian thing so hard, I was a lesbian before I decided to transition and no matter how hard I try, I'm still pre t (soon!) so I barely get acknowledged properly. I always gravitated towards female friends so I don't understand the male world at all heh... Hopefully someday I'll understand.
Oh god I feel the manurism thing so hard too. Especially my hip movement
I love your natural hair soo cutee
I feel like the weird thing for me was that as a female passing person, if I called a girl celebrity hot or fit, or said I wanted her to bang me, it was like ' go girl ikr she's damn finnneeee ' but if I say anything similar now, as a fourteen year old male, people call me out for stuff that I'd never be called out for when female passing. It's weird. I don't want to accidentally objectify someone but I'm scared I will and be seen as sexist
Thankfully, I wasn't socialized at all, I was brought up feral! So I'm a tabula rasa!
This sh*t was DEEP! #handsdown
CHASE, please answer I have a question!
About passing, when you say sometimes passing is a little unrealistic because most of the time people won't (sorry if I completely misunderstood what you said). Anyway, I have not started T have not taken any steps toward transition ( I plan to someday though;). I am 13 but in my opinion I feel like since I have been "boyish or tomboyish" I feel that I have always passed (for now). Which if you want (and believe me this isn't a way for me to somehow get you to subscribe to me) but please feel free to check out my channel and please tell me if you agree that in a way I pass. But, takes deep breath is it possible for someone to pass without taking any steps toward transitioning and still have some what of a male privilege? ( I'm sorry for having such a long back story but imma open up to ya Cause I look up to you. And tbh you and FTMTranstastic are pretty much my escape from society:)!
I think male privilege is present in society, but I would refer to it as masculine privilege because feminine men aren't as privileged as masculine men (you mentioned that) But also because a female acting slightly masculine isn't as looked down upon in society as a male acting slightly feminine. I remember when I was younger (I questioned my gender at a young age), I remember thinking that I was either a feminine guy or a masculine girl and that I would rather be a masculine girl. That was only because, at school, it was the feminine guys who got picked on and not the masculine girls (at least, that was my experience by the age of 10). So, I think masculine privilege is present (this including people of all gender identities with a more masculine gender expression) but that, with in that masculine privilege, there is male privilege. Of masculine people, those that appear more male, are more privileged. So, a girl acting like a boy isn't as "bad" as a boy acting like a girl. I consider that situation "masculine privilege". But, a boy acting like a boy is "better" than a girl acting like a boy and a boy acting like a girl. That I consider male privilege.
I think being privileged based on something so unrelated to a person's true character is so stupid.
I don't have much experience (14 year old feminine pre-everything transguy) but that's just my opinion.
Cay Lynch I'm SUPER late but yes you make a very valid point. For most of my life I identified as a butch/stud lesbian and I work in a male dominated industry. I find that people treat me a little better than my more femme counterparts and respect me a little more. Granted they don't see me as an equal but they sure don't talk down to me the way they do my femme counterparts and they respect me just a TAD bit more YET I'm still seen as female to them so I do not get the full affect of MALE privilege just yet. (Just starting to come to terms with being trans and planning on starting T soon =} )
You're amazing and I love your videos and listening to you speak
Every single thing you said in this video made me love you a million times more
I agree with everything you say.
I'll never see what's wrong with acknowledging that I benefit from privilege. No-one's saying men never face persecution for their gender (which they do, but less often and in fewer situations than women) but I'm definitely more privileged.
Some of the shit some other guys say is pretty bad. I call them out on it and I've never been seen as less of a person for doing so. That said, I don't encounter these types of guys as often as people say, but I'm the kind of person who ignores conversations, keeps a low profile and makes a point to surround himself with people who aren't horrible, so there's that.
That's not privilege, nor is any of the stuff he's talking about. Privilege implies that it's codified by temporal or personal law, and we both know that temporal law always trumps personal law. Male privilege does not exist because men and women must follow the exact same laws, regulations, etc. However, female privilege absolutely exists when one considers Affirmative Action, VAWA, etc.
+Xavier Duncan wahaha, so hilarious, this is great satire. I imagine how you give a speech like that and struggle to keep a serious face. Keep on like that and you're gonna be a great comedian once! (I mean, if you manage to beat all the big, well-known comedians who all are women)
dasMaiki Or the old ass comedians that continue to do great work like Bill Maher. Or comedians that get their own shows like Trevor Noah. I'm not saying that women aren't talented, no one would insinuate that. But privilege requires that the privilege be codified. There is no law that women have to follow that men do not. However, there are laws that men have to follow that women do not. Men and women are also treated differently by the law.
+At13000FeetAGL There is absolutely no such thing as male privilege. These are the facts.
1. Women live 5 years longer than men.
2. Men are forced to do all the dirty/dangerous jobs of society, front lines of war, oil rig worker, coal miner, deep sea fisherman, toxic chemical jobs etc.
3. Men are 80% of the suicides.
4. Men are 80% of the homicide victims.
5. Men are 75% of the homeless population.
6.Women get less jail time for the same crimes as men ( much less).
7. 93% of the on the job fatalities are men.
8. The divorce courts favor women.
9. The custody courts favor women.
10. Men pay 68% of the Social security tax, but only collect 40% of the benefits.
11. Women control 70-80% of the purchasing power in America.
Where is the privilege? Men are the disposable gender. It's an evolutionary fact. Women have the relatively rare and valuable eggs, men have the sperm which is plentiful. So men are considered disposable, and women are protected by society.
appreciate this vid very much. would love to see a vid with a trans man of color/trans masc person of color views. im still learning how to navigate the world read as masc and a person of color.
you do you your awesome and inspire me to physically transition on T and stuff. !!! 😄😎
I love you BRO!!!! your soO REAL!!!
I've never thought about any of this, I have some mental disorders that like to disconnect me from my younger years. I will say whatever I want to whomever I want. If I'm passing as a guy and was born a woman and a guy is talking about anyone in a derogatory way I will say what comes to my mind, usually "ew" because I'm very close to asexual and get uncomfortable with anything adult fun timey. If it's a woman talking about how men are scum, I'd do the same, and say what comes to my mind, and say "probably, it really depends on who you attract, maybe you just attract bad ones, I got a good one." XD I don't conform to anything for anyone. I am me, and no one is going to influence that.
Me at school
Other students: Gosh guys are so perverted and sexist ugh!
Me: Yes hi, can I just apologize on the behalf of our existence? ;w;
Truuu at work mad guys think I’m just hella gay....which is true but...also trans....
I think maybe that the people on tumblr saying that you can have male privilege before you pass has more to do with not having internalized misogyny.
Amen. Not all men are arrogant and sexist, but it is a real thing.
Meh.. As a man, i'd say genders are pretty even. I see just as many powerful CEOs and managers wherever i go. Socially there will always be a difference, as it's just how we evolved as a species. As far as rights are concerned, in western culture we've made leaps and bounds and the line is pretty gray. My work actually favors woman as managers because they micro manage much better in general.
That is not the usual case, sadly.
I'm sure each place is different, that's the thing generally groups will favor a gender or another, however on a much larger scale it tends to even out. Confirmation bias is pretty big, when you have an idea set, you tend not to apply as much cognitive attention to the details that don't favor your mindset. Were all guilty of it, it's how were made. We just need to keep this in mind when we make our conclusions in life.
The issue with cis men is they don't see that they have male privilege because they were born with it. If you spent one month as a female, you'd change your mind.
what country are you from?
One difference is men are not really entitled to the same emotional freedom as women. Women can express themselves in a way freely, that men don’t have. Men have to always keep to together, always be in control.
Also it's interesting haring 'the other side' as it were, because I'm interested in misandry and the social expectations men deal with and toxic masculinity etc.
If we put our heads together we can write a 'man handbook' lol
This is a good one.
I am a gay transman who had a mastectomy but I stopped my testosterone because I don't want to be on synthetic hormones for life. And because of this I don't pass. But it is so frustrated to be hit on by straight men...
Very interesting, thanks
YES to all of this!
especially when you pass 100% you have the power to use that privilege to bring other man to listen to you, so you can just argue the shit outta them
maybe a reply could be the mention of something all genders have in common, and then the ''we're all humans''' and such
Awesome video!
We have the same purpose in life: I love to confuse people too :D
I think it's an interesting topic, and it seems strange, but I guess human nature when I see trans guys who are totally unaware and start using words like c____ and so on. I have called them on it, and then they act like I made them feel unsafe in trans space. Come again?
I really really really love you
Thanks for posting this... I'm FtM and I have my first gender clinic appointment next month. I'm also a feminist and I felt a huge conflict before coming out, as I love women and really hate how people are read as women are treated and before coming out, I felt the word "man" came with the baggage that reflected my own negative experiences growing up. I guess a big turning point with me was meeting other feminist trans guys and also, the realisation that I'll still be me, despite looking different at some point.
Have you been in the same work sector since transitioning? I'm openly transgender in work and using male pronouns... I work with disabled adults. I people watch a lot and feel my job is very gendered, like the emotional labour between people (I read as/am introduced to as) "male" and "female" is really different... The amount of body contact, tone of voice, methods of communication. I really like working in my job, but I feel it will be an adjustment to make, especially with working in environments where I am going to day centres and people may not know me.
Visibly queer... I'm pansexual/queer and have a girlfriend. We're read as a lesbian couple a lot I feel, when we're out in the streets. I do worry a bit about being read as a straight cis guy, though I tend to be read a lot as a lesbian, or as a straight trans guy when I say I have a girlfriend... Do you mind me asking, if you're attracted to men, do you feel more comfortable with this now than pre-T?
Femininity... I'm quite a camp guy, but try to appear as masculine as possible (I feel a bit better since being out 100%)... Do you feel there was a point where you could present femininity more comfortably?
Hope you're having a good weekend.
Seb x
use your privilege for good! not for evil! my cis husband can't stand when other men act crass or demean women either
+lizokitten2 If you ever divorce him. I'm sure his privilege of you being treated as a victim and just awarded shit based on your gender will come in handy :) or the fact if you have kids. The court will award you custody in 88% of cases. The fact his 89% more likely to kill himself than you are. 98% more likely to die at work. Just as likely to abused but have no shelters or awareness. Men are now less likely to get into higher education, 68% less likely. Yes he is so much damned privilege, you must be proud. Maybe its time you checked your own privilege.
+Becks B Lol. Some of that is plain wrong (68% less? I think you mean 68% of...), some of it is grossly exaggerated ("no shelters or awareness" more like not enough), and none of it is systemic privilege. Some of it, as you pointed out, is as a result of women being considered victims, which is comes from misogyny. Some of it, like the issue of suicide, is not clearly related to some sort of systemic anti-maleness. (I would posit it has more to do with biology, male psychology and the structure of the modern world.) I have not heard any evidence that the lower rates of admission are because of anti-male bias, and I really see no reason to assume that is the case. In short, while the BROAD strokes of what you are saying are correct, you don't seem to understand what systemic privilege is, so feel free to look it up. I don't think everything is necessarily easier for all men than it is for all women -- and men have their own unique issues that are also born out of misogyny. Everyone is hurt by hate and oppression -- the oppressed, the oppressor and everyone else involved. My husband has struggles with how to be a masculine man in a healthy way in our modern society and I would never belittle his struggle. I have a feeling though that you're just trolling and you don't care to think deeply about this stuff so whatever.
+lizokitten2 There is absolutely no such thing as male privilege. These are the facts.
1. Women live 5 years longer than men.
2. Men are forced to do all the dirty/dangerous jobs of society, front lines of war, oil rig worker, coal miner, deep sea fisherman, toxic chemical jobs etc.
3. Men are 80% of the suicides.
4. Men are 80% of the homicide victims.
5. Men are 75% of the homeless population.
6.Women get less jail time for the same crimes as men ( much less).
7. 93% of the on the job fatalities are men.
8. The divorce courts favor women.
9. The custody courts favor women.
10. Men pay 68% of the Social security tax, but only collect 40% of the benefits.
11. Women control 70-80% of the purchasing power in America.
Where is the privilege? Men are the disposable gender. It's an evolutionary fact. Women have the relatively rare and valuable eggs, men have the sperm which is plentiful. So men are considered disposable, and women are protected by society.
LOL talking points. All I had to do was google "counterarguments MRA talking points." You should try it. Here's a few links to get you started. Have a good day.
debunkingmras.wordpress.com/2014/03/12/debunking-the-mens-rights-movement-x/
mic.com/articles/90131/the-8-biggest-lies-men-s-rights-activists-spread-about-women#.E9iuZR75p
lizokitten2
"Debunked" by feminist propaganda okay love. LOL
Um I think you mean WHITE male privilege. I love ya Chase but for a self id'd feminist this video sure lacks a shit ton of intersectional aspects to the trans male experience. Class Race Access to Healthcare people who weren't socialized female or had single moms etc etc
It's not that he's saying pre t trans men can't pass. He's saying some ppl just can't. It can be caused by many factors. I can pass cause I have a more masculine posture and my facial structure. I also have a deeper voice than a regular female usually does.
i want to hug you and i want you to hug me
TOO MANY TRANS! Dying.
I am armed with a quote I found recently that basically says, while not all men are rapists, all rapists think all men are.
So.
Should the situation arise, I'm prepared to be the 'party pooper'.
Though I'm used to being that person anyways.
So actually, it ends up not being helpful because no one is going to respect my opinion anyways.
Hm.
Is there a happy median between always calling out and only waiting until rape jokes?
I'm really interested in gaslighting and how the principle of it could be used positvely. Positive manipulation? Hm. Suggestive guidance? I'm not saying I'm going to manipulate people, but it's quite an interesting thing to think about. How can this awful, negative, abusive tool be learned from and utilized in a positive manner?
I think what you're doing is great, and actually probably the most wise. As I said earlier, your opinion has to gain value and respect. You can't do that with hostility or creating a space where others would trust you. But I am fiercely, overly proactive, and if nothing else a lover of psychology. So. It's an interesting proposition at least.
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Thanks for making this video.
On both ends, er.. All ends, you don't get the socialization if you don't pass.
I'll leave that shitstorm lying, but it does have some consequences. I was almost raped by a transwoman, and one of my transmasculine friends was sexually assaulted by a transwoman.
I don't want to get into it.
I'm not in any form bad mouthing our wonderful trans-sisters.
But I firmly believe (to be binary about it) that each trans person carries the burden of their socialization.
The patriarchy fails literally everyone.
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I think it will be interesting to see what happens as I pass. Having autism makes my socialness rather awkward. Actually, to extend it out, I would like to know how the experience differs for anyone with social issues like anxiety or anything that would make a person keep away from others. There will still be male privledge, but I'm curious of social interaction and friendships will change at all. It would seem you'd have to be buddy-buddy with guys in order to get to the level of them telling you about women.
Hm.
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Thank you.
Many things to ponder.
im just glad im trans from a young age
Hey! It's fun to see your evolution after having not seen you for awhile. In the interim, I've had interesting opportunities in my professional life to provide customer service to a couple of young people on their trans journeys. I strive to treat everyone (customers) like good friends. It's heart warming to see the fear of my reactions melt away when I provide the same welcome & kind service that they were witnessing before our encounter. My most recent person was excitedly telling me about his hysterectomy & that was why I had seen relatives picking up his things for him. It was nice to see him so happy. I hadn't thought about your topic here before. I'm glad you've touched on it. I witness wild privilege for males in my industry. It's weird, for sure.
Seeing you makes me both happy and jealous as fuuuuuck
Chase how tall are you? I know you have smaller feet and Aaron is shorter than you? Just wondering.
I never thought id ever hear you say "Too many Trans"LOL and there's nothing wrong with cats. Cats are cool. All they have to do is sit around and look cute and they get fed and loved. Its a good life. Im going to come back in another life as a cat. pur pur pur. There's a big difference between having male privilege and being a douche bag.
8:07 -- "too many trans"
Because you pass as male, it allows you to say rape jokes are wrong?? What does male or female, passing or not passing have ANYTHING to do with speaking up about rape??