One of my favourite movies of all time. But I understand that this movie is difficult to digest even for the more seasoned movie goers. So it seems natural that it didn't get much traction.
This film is a masterpiece. True cinematic art at its finest. So many memorable scenes, so many gut wrenching moments, so thought provoking. Scorsese is a master.
You can see Scorsese's love of the cinematic medium in every frame of his work. We are so lucky to have some really prolific filmmakers left who don't need to compromise their vision as much as many in the younger generation of filmmakers do.
Wait? Many filmmakers in the younger generation compromise their artistic integrity and vision? That couldn't be more wrong, especially today as we're about to hit another golden age of film. And many of the older generations compromised their artistic integrity more than today's filmmakers ever could or will.
I liked it. Didn't think it was boring in the least. Then again I enjoy historical films. Would have preferred if it was sengoku period like many of Kurosawa's but this was fine.
It certainly seemed to miss out on some due praise during awards season. I'm sure this one will have staying power. Scorsese is one of cinema's all-time greats.
Tyler, I really really enjoy your work. You do an incredible amount of research and weave it in with your own impressions an analyses in a very elegant way. Most of all, you are humble. You don't make it about you, you make it about the ideas. I really appreciate that. Some video essayists are all about ME ME ME. You channel your love of film into the film, not your ego, and you bring us along with. Thank you for making these videos!
In my book, Mr. Scorsese is the greatest living filmmaker. I'm grateful for his decision to take on this long-awaited project and hope he keeps putting out such great movies.
It is so great to live in a time when Scorsese's filmography isn't yet finished. His quality has been so consistent-- I can't wait to see what he does next!
As a Muslim, I thoroughly enjoyed this brilliant film; it was emotional, heart-wrenching, horrific, beautiful, and tragic. Although the story is told through a Catholic lens, I think it is applicable more universally to religious faith in general. The film can be interpreted as a metaphor for the struggle of traditional religious faith in a highly hostile, secular modern world. Far from any longer being able to stake a public claim, traditional religions must struggle against incredible odds to even continue to survive in the private sphere. Hats off to Mr. Scorsese!
I would tend to have a more forgiving look at the Japanese of this period. The Japanese looked at what happened to the Philippines being steamrolled by the Spanish who were there to supposedly "protect" the Christians. It might be better for them, politically, to crush the public display of Christian faith. Note that I say public. The entire Inquisitor office in this movie was shown to be practical rather than fanatical. They recognised that they could never truly change a man's belief. The act of stepping on an image if Jesus is like a loyalty test: "would you put your loyalty to the State before your loyalty to the faith". This question transcend religion and faith; it goes further: just swap faith for ethnicity, race, etc ... It was, like they kept saying "a formality". At the point of the show, the Inquisitor's office was very lenient, compared to the Jesuit priests' home kingdom's actions. During the Reconquista or Spanish Inquisition, they non-Christians had a choice of not converting and get burned on the stake or convert, get strangled to death, given a Christian burial, and supposedly go to Heaven. Compare that to a simple act of stepping on an image of Jesus (the act of making an image is variously thought as icon worship by different colours of Jews, Christians, and Muslims anyway) and you can get off, it's surprisingly lenient.
This movie is like a prayer. I felt like I was undergoing the Ignatian Examen. It was very meaningful for me as a Catholic, with Portuguese heritage, but I feel it's themes are simultaneously universal as well
One of my favorite things about Scorsese is not his use of music (although he knows how to use some fucking good music) but rather his lack of music. The most emotional scenes or climax in many of his movie play with no music and minimal sound. This strips away any emotional manipulation and makes the moment seem so much more real. It makes it feel so much more powerful to me.
I for one am glad that they postponed Silence until last year. It would have been a completely different film if it was done immediately. I liked what we got from it
Me too. I also feel like we got a film that embodied Scorsese's 30 year contemplation of the story rather than something that received a much smaller amount of thought.
Harry Goodwin that's what I keep saying! He has consistently made so many film analyses that I like and rewatch sometimes. There are several channels on youtube that I'm subscribed to that produce similar content, but Cinema Tyler's editing and storytelling choices are on Tony Zhou's level. Really enjoy it and hope he makes more of it.
I loved the film, but there's a scene at the end I hate. When his wife put something into his casket. You knew it was a crucifix, but then the film has to show us, yes it was a crucifix. It would have been better to maintain ambiguity.
The same way they snubbed all of David Lynch’s films, all of Stanley Kubruck’s films, and all of Scorsese’s films in favor of garbage such as Toy Story and so-so/run-of-the-mill dramas.
regarding the score, i actually didn't realize that there was a score in this movie while watching. i'd thought perhaps that, as least most of it, relied on ambient sounds and foley. just now it dawned on me. that's good stuff.
I'm a big fan of this series, dude. I'd love to see a "What I Learned" on Heat (1995). I'm kind of diving into Michael Mann's filmography and I can't find a lot of videos on his material.
I know you said light spoilers, but I wish you hadn't spoiled ALL of the lighting techniques in this movie :P Great job as per usual, it's a shame that this movie didn't get a wider release or more critical acclaim, it's a masterpiece in my mind.
I think my only criticism of this film is that while both the Japanese society and the Jesuits' Christianity of the time are well represented, they did little to show the cultural backgrounds of the Portuguese priests themselves. You know, the nuances beyond the obvious religious beliefs. Portugal was of the most religious countries in Europe, even considering 16th century Europe as a whole, or how Portugal was one of the countries that were the most aggressive or unwelcoming towards reformation for instance. I think that if the Jesuits emulated the actual Portuguese catholic/Jesuit culture and thinking of 16th century Portugal it could have conveyed more...substance? I think that's the word. But regardless, it is a very good film and I love it.
I can buy that he wanted the thematic colors 10:26, but most people would relate that to cold and warm. Which, just based off what I know of the movie so far (the story given by the trailers), shouldn't be the feeling you get. They leave the heart of the catholic church to foreign lands faced by brutality and discrimination. P.S., I don't care about spoilers.
I was kind of pissed at how loud the ambient noises were. I feel it would have been more successful being that loud the first time. It was just hammered in too hard after the first time that I noticed it.
This video made me interested to watch it. Is it too late for theater showing? If it is not, should I watch it in the theater or buy the DVD later? BTW, I watched the 1971 version of the movie in youtube. It would be interesting to compare them.
Thanks! I imagine that it should be playing somewhere. I rarely see new movies in the theater, but I did see this one in the theater. There is some great cinematography, but you could really go either way.
I think Scorsese also referenced the original 1971 version, Chinmoku, for sighting, lighting and coloring: ruclips.net/video/jCLzLqNkS_c/видео.html The lead actor in Chinmoku, however, is horrible. Another actor, Don Kenny (Garrpe), still resides here in Tokyo, and did kyogen for many years. He had the original script, some photos taken on set of Masahiro Shinoda directing, as well as other clippings, etc. that he showed me.
I have been thinking about adding more variety to the music in this series. I think it works for shorter videos, but can get a bit repetitive for longer ones. Thanks!
Great video as always! Pretty cool to see you do a 'What I Learned About Filmmaking' video on a recent release. HUGE SPOILERS BELOW I thought the film was great, but one of the few problems I had with it was that final shot you mention (the shot I assume Scorsese had been planning since Mean Streets). The beauty of the final act was that we didn't know whether Rodrigues has denounced God or not, and like your video mentioned, Scorsese and Garfield had plenty of discussions about the themes where they would conjure up more questions than answers. So it seemed totally incongruous to me to end the film with such a definite shot revealing Rodrigues' true colours in a film that was mostly about ambiguity and secrets. Maybe it's just me.
I definitely agree that the final act's brilliance lies in the ambiguity of Rodrigues' faith, especially in the scene where Kichijiro is taken away. Do you think perhaps the ending would have been stronger if Rodrigues had his hands closed in the casket in the final shot, so as just to suggest but not confirm he may have been holding the cross, or would you not have had the shot there at all?
I'm not sure. The shot it technically excellent but without the big reveal of the cross in his hands it would seem odd and out of place - you could argue it's the only 'god shot' in the whole film - but there is probably a way it could have been done with the ambiguity still intact.
This film is a Masterpiece and so is Scorsese. Consider making a video on "Kingdom of Heaven" director's cut. It's also a Masterpiece from Ridley Scott
I hear that it will get an even bigger release on Jan 13th. It's a Scorsese movie and it will most certainly get some Academy Award nominations, so it has got to get a big release! (hopefully!)
Be thankful for that and use the time to watch something, _anything_, else. This film is total garbage. It's barely even a film. It's just a bloated, sophomoric, C- theology essay. With bonus stereotyping.
I had the opportunity to see an early screening of it. While I can't say it's one I'm likely to revisit very often, I must say that I do admire it for its absolutely masterful filmmaking and excellent performances from all involved. . Some others who've replied have done an excellent job of demonstrating that this isn't everyone's cup of tea, and that's perfectly fine, no movie is. But it is worth giving it a try, as this can be a very rewarding and deeply moving film. So, when the January release rolls around, if you're at all curious about this film, I would definitely recommend you check it out.
A great cinematic work and a artistic masterpiece that will live in the mind for a long time I was greatly affected by its events, and I remembered the prophets of God and the criminals that happened to them at the time of every prophet. . And as full of respect for Christians and the Christian religion, but I still think that the religion of Islam is a little better than other religions, which is the complete religion that does not confuse it and in it all the answers to all the questions
I have mixed feelings about this white elephant, but it seemed to me like it also resonates as a film about the death of cinema. Especially in the last image.
I'm super interested in this content, but I'm sorry... I just had to turn it off after 30 seconds of that awful noise in the background. Why?? Anyways... best of luck, as I see you have plenty of subs who don't mind it.
There was definitely 4-5 scenes that were incredible, especially the beginning of the film, before we see images. I watched it when it premiered in Arclight Hollywood, the film seemed very unfinished. There were clear distinct differences between ADR sound and on-set production sound, the sound design not finished, the color grading didn't match in many scenes, the editing, the sound editing and sound design. Andrew Garfield's accent was very wacky. The CGI was really really bad in the boat scene that you are talking about, like forget about Tarkin from Rogue One, this is bad/unfinished on a whole different level.
Andrew Garfield, in most of the film, is a passive observer, much like a film audience, looking at things happening around him but not taking any actions. His suffering was purely internal.
I always find ADR sound to be distinctly different from on-set production sound, but maybe that's only when I actually notice it, heh. Other than that, I didn't notice any issue in the color grading or anything like that. There was one instance of a bizarre edit-- in the scene when Rodrigues first meets with Inoue and the interpreter it cut to (if I remember correctly) a wide shot of the three of them for under a second for seemingly no reason. Perhaps some things have been/will be changed for a wider release. I didn't find the CGI in the boat scene to be particularly bad. It was obviously CGI, but it seemed like the aim of the scene was for something a little more fantastical.
My main issue with the film was that Kichijiro was a far more interesting character than the rest and he seemed to be there only for the benefit of Rodrigues' arc. I think it makes sense for the story that Rodrigues' suffering was only internal. He had to deal with the ability to give up his faith to end suffering. You would expect that Kichijiro would eventually refuse to step on the religious icon, but the fact that he doesn't says so much more.
This film is genuinely an experience that anyone should sit through. It doesn't just apply to Christians, but technically to anyone who has convictions about something. Why can't Christians support art instead of propaganda pieces of shit like God's not Dead????
Because real Christians understand that while God's Not Dead isn't a very good movie it's about real Christians and Silence is about a very cruel cult.
Very interesting analysis on a beautiful (and in parts problematic in my opinion) film. I would be curious to see your take on There Will Be Blood. One of the best films of the 21st century so far.
wonderful, wonderful wonderful! i loved the part of "the Japanese goverment treating the hidden christians as addicts and the priests as dealers, isn´t that a perfect way of describing Religion?
The Jesuits came to Japan, preaching great sermons, while secretly selling Japanese women and children as slaves abroad. So the Japanese goverment thought the Spain's Christianity is a dangerous religion. There is no way to talk about this movie without this premise.
In my opinion, this is the most underrated movie I've seen so far. The experience is so surreal. This is pure cinema, and yet it went unnoticed.
One of my favourite movies of all time. But I understand that this movie is difficult to digest even for the more seasoned movie goers. So it seems natural that it didn't get much traction.
This film is a masterpiece. True cinematic art at its finest. So many memorable scenes, so many gut wrenching moments, so thought provoking. Scorsese is a master.
You can see Scorsese's love of the cinematic medium in every frame of his work. We are so lucky to have some really prolific filmmakers left who don't need to compromise their vision as much as many in the younger generation of filmmakers do.
Wait? Many filmmakers in the younger generation compromise their artistic integrity and vision? That couldn't be more wrong, especially today as we're about to hit another golden age of film.
And many of the older generations compromised their artistic integrity more than today's filmmakers ever could or will.
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That's because they're already compromised human beings.
I liked it. Didn't think it was boring in the least. Then again I enjoy historical films. Would have preferred if it was sengoku period like many of Kurosawa's but this was fine.
i think that this movie will hopefully be considered a classic 50 years from now, fantastic film
It certainly seemed to miss out on some due praise during awards season. I'm sure this one will have staying power. Scorsese is one of cinema's all-time greats.
Tyler, I really really enjoy your work. You do an incredible amount of research and weave it in with your own impressions an analyses in a very elegant way. Most of all, you are humble. You don't make it about you, you make it about the ideas. I really appreciate that. Some video essayists are all about ME ME ME. You channel your love of film into the film, not your ego, and you bring us along with. Thank you for making these videos!
You are too kind! It's comments like yours that make this all worthwhile. Thanks so much!
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I agree. You are a true inspiration to all us humans, Tyler!
What a lovely comment.
In my book, Mr. Scorsese is the greatest living filmmaker. I'm grateful for his decision to take on this long-awaited project and hope he keeps putting out such great movies.
It is so great to live in a time when Scorsese's filmography isn't yet finished. His quality has been so consistent-- I can't wait to see what he does next!
Yes, we're very lucky! I'll watch anything directed by him.
David Lynch.
As a Muslim, I thoroughly enjoyed this brilliant film; it was emotional, heart-wrenching, horrific, beautiful, and tragic. Although the story is told through a Catholic lens, I think it is applicable more universally to religious faith in general. The film can be interpreted as a metaphor for the struggle of traditional religious faith in a highly hostile, secular modern world. Far from any longer being able to stake a public claim, traditional religions must struggle against incredible odds to even continue to survive in the private sphere. Hats off to Mr. Scorsese!
Thanks for your perspective! I hadn't considered that interpretation, but it really makes sense.
I would tend to have a more forgiving look at the Japanese of this period. The Japanese looked at what happened to the Philippines being steamrolled by the Spanish who were there to supposedly "protect" the Christians. It might be better for them, politically, to crush the public display of Christian faith.
Note that I say public. The entire Inquisitor office in this movie was shown to be practical rather than fanatical. They recognised that they could never truly change a man's belief. The act of stepping on an image if Jesus is like a loyalty test: "would you put your loyalty to the State before your loyalty to the faith". This question transcend religion and faith; it goes further: just swap faith for ethnicity, race, etc ... It was, like they kept saying "a formality".
At the point of the show, the Inquisitor's office was very lenient, compared to the Jesuit priests' home kingdom's actions. During the Reconquista or Spanish Inquisition, they non-Christians had a choice of not converting and get burned on the stake or convert, get strangled to death, given a Christian burial, and supposedly go to Heaven. Compare that to a simple act of stepping on an image of Jesus (the act of making an image is variously thought as icon worship by different colours of Jews, Christians, and Muslims anyway) and you can get off, it's surprisingly lenient.
As it should be. Enough damage has been done. Find your inner peace finally and let the world heal and rebuild itself. Never gonna happen tho
this is reason why japan did not became colony of western powers.
@@VT-mw2zb LMAO cool cool we're just gonna do apologism for torture, internment camps and fascism now.. nice.
Just seen the movie. Quite slow, but i personaly loved it
Pedro Andreu A better word than "slow" is "deliberate"
Pedro Andreu definitely a masterpiece, but it was a little TOO slow for me
Its not a action movie it's a drama der 😳
yeah you learn on.a rewatch just how slow it can feel, especially when you're sitting with a room full of people expecting casino in 1400s naga saki
This movie is like a prayer. I felt like I was undergoing the Ignatian Examen. It was very meaningful for me as a Catholic, with Portuguese heritage, but I feel it's themes are simultaneously universal as well
The finest film of Scorsese's career, and of all of cinema in the past two decades.
I finally got to see SILENCE about 2 weeks ago (and loved it). Your video is a perfect companion-piece to it. Thanks, Tyler!
You are too kind! Thanks!
You're so very welcome! 🌷
where did u watch it tho
This movie should have won the Oscar
And Andrew Garfield too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of my favorite things about Scorsese is not his use of music (although he knows how to use some fucking good music) but rather his lack of music. The most emotional scenes or climax in many of his movie play with no music and minimal sound. This strips away any emotional manipulation and makes the moment seem so much more real. It makes it feel so much more powerful to me.
I for one am glad that they postponed Silence until last year. It would have been a completely different film if it was done immediately. I liked what we got from it
Me too. I also feel like we got a film that embodied Scorsese's 30 year contemplation of the story rather than something that received a much smaller amount of thought.
These are always just the best and most consistent videos on my feed, needs more recognition!!
Harry Goodwin that's what I keep saying! He has consistently made so many film analyses that I like and rewatch sometimes. There are several channels on youtube that I'm subscribed to that produce similar content, but Cinema Tyler's editing and storytelling choices are on Tony Zhou's level. Really enjoy it and hope he makes more of it.
Thanks so much for saying so! I really appreciate it!
This makes me very happy to hear! More is on the way!
This is easily one of my favorite films of all time. I would dare to say my favorite, but I could never pick just a single one.
I loved the film, but there's a scene at the end I hate. When his wife put something into his casket. You knew it was a crucifix, but then the film has to show us, yes it was a crucifix. It would have been better to maintain ambiguity.
Fantastic video Tyler. I'm in love with his film. Saw it twice at the cinema and can't wait to watch it again on blu ray when it's released soon!
Thank you!
How could the Oscar's snub Silence?
Because they are idiots!!!
Lucy Bagus Because Christianity
The same way they snubbed all of David Lynch’s films, all of Stanley Kubruck’s films, and all of Scorsese’s films in favor of garbage such as Toy Story and so-so/run-of-the-mill dramas.
Because it's all about advertisements and sociopolitics, not about genuine artistic achievement, unfortunately
that year won a really bad movie like "spotlight". Attack the church sold
I constantly have goosebumps during the video.
I think the final shot of the film is the one he's had in mind all the time.
This is such a great video Tyler. Well done. You truly did your homework and for that I'm grateful.
If you are intelligent you can't help but be amazed by this film. Masterpiece.
You don't need to be intelligent to be amazed by it.
Great film, got to watch it again when I get the chance
Stepping on the fumie is historically accurate.. and yes it makes for good imagery in the film
I LOVE this movie. One of the most powerful pieces of cinema in recent memory. Excellent analysis, friendo
regarding the score,
i actually didn't realize that there was a score in this movie while watching. i'd thought perhaps that, as least most of it, relied on ambient sounds and foley.
just now it dawned on me.
that's good stuff.
Such an understated score. I thought it worked really well.
It was in theaters for 2 weekends here. I went and it was almost empty
you really deserve way more subscribers bro..love ur work..
Thanks!
This movie tore my heart out and made me feel some truly incredible things. So powerful and moving. Beautiful.
I'm a big fan of this series, dude. I'd love to see a "What I Learned" on Heat (1995). I'm kind of diving into Michael Mann's filmography and I can't find a lot of videos on his material.
Thanks! I'd definitely love to tackle Heat sometime!
Excellent work. Gongratulations!
Thanks!
Maybe off topic but, any thoughts on William Macy's directing ability.? Seems pretty under the radar. I get the sense of vast potential.
I haven't seen any of his directing work yet, but I'll definitely check him out.
This is really insightful. Well done.
Thank you!
Excellent breakdown as usual. I changed my comment because you covered what I was saying. Great work.
Thanks!
I know you said light spoilers, but I wish you hadn't spoiled ALL of the lighting techniques in this movie :P Great job as per usual, it's a shame that this movie didn't get a wider release or more critical acclaim, it's a masterpiece in my mind.
Haha, thanks! I'm surprised that it didn't get more attention considering it's a Scorsese movie.
Very comprehensive experience. you guys should do movie reviews too. thanks for this video. can you do a similar video for hacksaw ridge
Thank you! I haven't gotten a chance to see Hacksaw Ridge yet, but it looks interesting.
+CinemaTyler you'd be blown away by it. Best war movie I ever seen.
Does anyone know what the shot is in the film that Scorsese has wanted to do since Mean Streets??????
This is a fantastic interpretation of a great book.
Amazing and insightful analysis!
Thank you!
I loved this movie, but with your analysis, it became even better now!
That makes me very happy to hear! Thanks!
I really appreciate your insight into this film. Good stuff, this movie is incredible.
This movie and The Founder were the biggest Oscar snubs of 2016.
I got a Martin Scorsese Masterclass ad before this.
Well done!
Thanks!
The shots in the is film are amazing
I saw this master piece of Scorsese
It slow moving, but that's make it even better
You should talk about Wolf of Wall Street. And Arrival.
Loved those two. Someday!
wait? Why isnt the movie out yet??
its gonna miss the chance to win an oscar this year
so sad :(
I don't know how wide the release was, but it did make the cutoff for the Oscars. I think it only got nominated for cinematography though.
you just got a new subscriber!
Thanks!
I think my only criticism of this film is that while both the Japanese society and the Jesuits' Christianity of the time are well represented, they did little to show the cultural backgrounds of the Portuguese priests themselves. You know, the nuances beyond the obvious religious beliefs. Portugal was of the most religious countries in Europe, even considering 16th century Europe as a whole, or how Portugal was one of the countries that were the most aggressive or unwelcoming towards reformation for instance. I think that if the Jesuits emulated the actual Portuguese catholic/Jesuit culture and thinking of 16th century Portugal it could have conveyed more...substance? I think that's the word. But regardless, it is a very good film and I love it.
Awesome video. I suscribe to your channel and thanks for the subtitles.Helped me to understand since i am from spain.
Thanks! I'm so glad the subtitles helped-- I spend a lot of time on them!
Thanks a lot!!!!!!! Love you man!!
I can buy that he wanted the thematic colors 10:26, but most people would relate that to cold and warm. Which, just based off what I know of the movie so far (the story given by the trailers), shouldn't be the feeling you get. They leave the heart of the catholic church to foreign lands faced by brutality and discrimination. P.S., I don't care about spoilers.
I was kind of pissed at how loud the ambient noises were. I feel it would have been more successful being that loud the first time. It was just hammered in too hard after the first time that I noticed it.
the academy threw SO much shade at this movie.
Your clips are really well researched and full of information shedding light on the movies
This video made me interested to watch it.
Is it too late for theater showing?
If it is not, should I watch it in the theater or buy the DVD later?
BTW, I watched the 1971 version of the movie in youtube.
It would be interesting to compare them.
Thanks! I imagine that it should be playing somewhere. I rarely see new movies in the theater, but I did see this one in the theater. There is some great cinematography, but you could really go either way.
CinemaTyler says:
" There is some great cinematography, but you could really go either way."
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Thank you for the reply.
I'll look into both.
Cecchi gori is pronounced: check-kee goree
Thanks, I'll try to keep that in mind for the future.
I loved this book, and also the movie.
nice work
Thanks!
I love this!
Thanks!
I think Scorsese also referenced the original 1971 version, Chinmoku, for sighting, lighting and coloring: ruclips.net/video/jCLzLqNkS_c/видео.html
The lead actor in Chinmoku, however, is horrible. Another actor, Don Kenny (Garrpe), still resides here in Tokyo, and did kyogen for many years. He had the original script, some photos taken on set of Masahiro Shinoda directing, as well as other clippings, etc. that he showed me.
Wow, they do look quite similar! Some of the shots look almost identical. That's so cool that you were able to see some rare set photos!
Actually, he let me have them as I was putting a video of him together. I also have some clippings and posters scanned if you want them:
The film was shot by Kazuo Miyagawa, who also shot "Ugetsu".
The video appears really good, but couldn't finish it because of the music of choice.
I have been thinking about adding more variety to the music in this series. I think it works for shorter videos, but can get a bit repetitive for longer ones. Thanks!
CinemaTyler well, it's an extremely odd song (all goofy and happy) while you're talking about a grim film.
It was just complete contrast.
you did amazing efforts gathering all these informations .... thank you so much
Amazing video. Cecchi gori tho is pronounced CEKKI ;)
Thanks and thanks for the correction!
Great video like always!
Thank you!
Great video as always! Pretty cool to see you do a 'What I Learned About Filmmaking' video on a recent release.
HUGE SPOILERS BELOW
I thought the film was great, but one of the few problems I had with it was that final shot you mention (the shot I assume Scorsese had been planning since Mean Streets). The beauty of the final act was that we didn't know whether Rodrigues has denounced God or not, and like your video mentioned, Scorsese and Garfield had plenty of discussions about the themes where they would conjure up more questions than answers. So it seemed totally incongruous to me to end the film with such a definite shot revealing Rodrigues' true colours in a film that was mostly about ambiguity and secrets. Maybe it's just me.
I definitely agree that the final act's brilliance lies in the ambiguity of Rodrigues' faith, especially in the scene where Kichijiro is taken away. Do you think perhaps the ending would have been stronger if Rodrigues had his hands closed in the casket in the final shot, so as just to suggest but not confirm he may have been holding the cross, or would you not have had the shot there at all?
I'm not sure. The shot it technically excellent but without the big reveal of the cross in his hands it would seem odd and out of place - you could argue it's the only 'god shot' in the whole film - but there is probably a way it could have been done with the ambiguity still intact.
Everybody is praising how great the movie is, how well made, written, etc, and it is, but everyone misses the message completely. How so very sad.
This film is a Masterpiece and so is Scorsese.
Consider making a video on "Kingdom of Heaven" director's cut. It's also a Masterpiece from Ridley Scott
Masterpeice...naaah. It still got Orlando Bloom "Acting" in it.
I would describe it as a big competent enjoyable spectacle mess :P
Thanks for the thorough video
Thanks for watching!
very nice
Thanks!
silence rules. The action scenes alone are worth it
great video! Please do No Country for Old Men.
Loved No Country for Old Men. Someday!
This movie isn't playing anywhere for me.
Probably not yet. In Poland it will be played on 17th of February.
I hear that it will get an even bigger release on Jan 13th. It's a Scorsese movie and it will most certainly get some Academy Award nominations, so it has got to get a big release! (hopefully!)
Be thankful for that and use the time to watch something, _anything_, else. This film is total garbage. It's barely even a film. It's just a bloated, sophomoric, C- theology essay. With bonus stereotyping.
I saw this last night and I thought it was great.
I had the opportunity to see an early screening of it. While I can't say it's one I'm likely to revisit very often, I must say that I do admire it for its absolutely masterful filmmaking and excellent performances from all involved. .
Some others who've replied have done an excellent job of demonstrating that this isn't everyone's cup of tea, and that's perfectly fine, no movie is. But it is worth giving it a try, as this can be a very rewarding and deeply moving film.
So, when the January release rolls around, if you're at all curious about this film, I would definitely recommend you check it out.
A great cinematic work and a artistic masterpiece that will live in the mind for a long time
I was greatly affected by its events, and I remembered the prophets of God and the criminals that happened to them at the time of every prophet.
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And as full of respect for Christians and the Christian religion, but I still think that the religion of Islam is a little better than other religions, which is the complete religion that does not confuse it and in it all the answers to all the questions
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the el greco feel for this movie....
Do you know the name of the painting that he said was by El Greco? I have been looking everywhere.
St Veronica Holding the Veil
Great movie very powerful
Silence is a 100 & budget movie co
I have mixed feelings about this white elephant, but it seemed to me like it also resonates as a film about the death of cinema. Especially in the last image.
I don't know that I believe that movies are dead but it can feel like it these days.
good video
I'm super interested in this content, but I'm sorry... I just had to turn it off after 30 seconds of that awful noise in the background. Why?? Anyways... best of luck, as I see you have plenty of subs who don't mind it.
killed it. enjoyed it throughout
Thank you!
can you please leave out this bass in your videos
There was definitely 4-5 scenes that were incredible, especially the beginning of the film, before we see images. I watched it when it premiered in Arclight Hollywood, the film seemed very unfinished. There were clear distinct differences between ADR sound and on-set production sound, the sound design not finished, the color grading didn't match in many scenes, the editing, the sound editing and sound design. Andrew Garfield's accent was very wacky.
The CGI was really really bad in the boat scene that you are talking about, like forget about Tarkin from Rogue One, this is bad/unfinished on a whole different level.
I hope that they'll finish it in post for DVDs
Andrew Garfield, in most of the film, is a passive observer, much like a film audience, looking at things happening around him but not taking any actions. His suffering was purely internal.
Sorry, except the starvation. His beard and hair looked very well though
I always find ADR sound to be distinctly different from on-set production sound, but maybe that's only when I actually notice it, heh. Other than that, I didn't notice any issue in the color grading or anything like that. There was one instance of a bizarre edit-- in the scene when Rodrigues first meets with Inoue and the interpreter it cut to (if I remember correctly) a wide shot of the three of them for under a second for seemingly no reason. Perhaps some things have been/will be changed for a wider release. I didn't find the CGI in the boat scene to be particularly bad. It was obviously CGI, but it seemed like the aim of the scene was for something a little more fantastical.
My main issue with the film was that Kichijiro was a far more interesting character than the rest and he seemed to be there only for the benefit of Rodrigues' arc. I think it makes sense for the story that Rodrigues' suffering was only internal. He had to deal with the ability to give up his faith to end suffering. You would expect that Kichijiro would eventually refuse to step on the religious icon, but the fact that he doesn't says so much more.
I really enjoyed this film. In some ways it kind of gave me the type of journey Apocalypse Now you felt when you watch that movie.
they were looking for my cousin😂😂
Hehe :)
how could "spotlight" won the oscars that year? i would like you explain me that in one of your next videos
You must be one of those Roman Catholics who wanted to keep the Catholic pedofiles safe and didn't want the priests to face justice.
This film is genuinely an experience that anyone should sit through. It doesn't just apply to Christians, but technically to anyone who has convictions about something. Why can't Christians support art instead of propaganda pieces of shit like God's not Dead????
Because real Christians understand that while God's Not Dead isn't a very good movie it's about real Christians and Silence is about a very cruel cult.
Interesting Analysis
Tyler - thank you for the brilliant videos🌈🍉🏯
Thanks for watching!
Very interesting analysis on a beautiful (and in parts problematic in my opinion) film. I would be curious to see your take on There Will Be Blood. One of the best films of the 21st century so far.
wonderful, wonderful wonderful! i loved the part of "the Japanese goverment treating the hidden christians as addicts and the priests as dealers, isn´t that a perfect way of describing Religion?
The film is leisurely paced. I like movies set or filmed in Japan.
Unlike Scorssese movie, love it. Garfield and Driver were Amazing.
ALWAYS LEARN SOMETHING FROM YOUR FILMS
The Jesuits came to Japan, preaching great sermons,
while secretly selling Japanese women and children as slaves abroad.
So the Japanese goverment thought the Spain's Christianity is a dangerous religion.
There is no way to talk about this movie without this premise.
I'm surprised it took you so long to realize that
This film is Scorsese's greatest achievement.
Not historically accurate, but an artistic masterpiece.