Walksnail Avatar The Truth
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Now that is what you can call informative video. In 20 minutes you provided more information than everyone else in a month with numerous videos. 👍👌
Thank you very much Andy.
that was my goal thank you :)
Totally agree!
It hard for the other guys to do a quick video, when they spend most of the time trying to make it sound better than what it really is. I can't tell you how much money I've wasted on the next big greatest thing, heavily pushed by a certain learn something today youtuber, just to find out its garbage. Andy is the real deal.
@@SCFPV I try my best thank you
@@SCFPV Russian RUclips is the same that a non-blogger praises the advertised shit so much, there is one channel. my friends even have an expression "top fat should be taken" like another junk ahahh. but the war changed what :( .sibiria
3:35 hit the nail on the head! trust is everything! had this product release been approached differently, with care to answering some of more burning technical questions people had, even with the system as-is, the response to it would have been much different.
HD FPV is beautifull but it's expensive as heck and, until there's compatibility between different manufacturers the same way we have with analog, I'm not moving to digital.
Thanks for this very informative video. I‘m just getting back into FPV after 2 years and should get my Walksnail tomorrow. I think it‘s great to have a variety of systems and it hopefully also pushes companies to do more that the FPV community wants.
i hope so too. Enjoy
I am gonna stay cheap-o analog for a while, just for money reasons. I also feel like the FPV world is advancing so fast technologically, it makes sense to not buy everything that comes out because it might be overshadowed quickly (quick in my world is half a year or year) by another product.
The digital FPV side is so interesting and so cool. I think if I had the money and there was a whoop /micro VTX for this system, I would actually get it.
This video was super informative, thanks a lot Andy and all the best to you!
after loosing my display cable for my monitor and instead having to use a basic one, i can assure you that 120hz is a very meaningful improvement. not just for latency, and not just for smoothness, but for clarity. coupled with fast pixel response times, like OLED displays can, it can dramatically improve your information about how the drone is moving in short periods of time.
Welcome back my friend, very glad you are here!
Thank you
I've noticed Companies such as Fatshark, Skyzone, Hd zero and others is that they seem to put out products that are not ready for release, prematurely. This leaves us (the consumer) to purchase inferior products as guinea pigs or unsuspecting beta testers only to have a very expensive video system totally discontinued or changed to the point that we regret purchasing the item. These companies are feeding off of die hard enthusiast to fund their R&D. I've now learned to wait a while. However, as quick as things change in FPV, there's no way to keep up unless you are very wealthy. Thanks for your information and honesty. Have a great day!
What proof do you have that the DJI v3’s won’t be backwards compatible? Is that speculative? You state it as fact in the video and I’d like to hear/see the proof if possible.
Caddx saw the dji 03 system and at the time they said they were not gonna be backwards compatible with vistas and caddx only makes profit from the cameras they make for dji and saw no future for the vista and then working with dji in the long run as the new 03 is a bespoke camera by dji with no options for caddx or runcam to make cameras for them ..however what iv now been told is that it is possible they have delayed the release so that it does to try and wipe out walksnail. We won't know now till it is released but when this video came out it was a true fact. Caddx still think they won't be backwards compatible and will discontinue them because it will affect the sales of the new system. And the vistas and air units need 120hz refresh rate... the new goggles are 100hz so they would need a new firmware for the units. No doubt lock up some features while they are at it. They didn't take too kind to the DJI drone having it's power output hacked for Europe and I'm sure with remote I'd coming the restrictions will be even tighter
Can't find it now, but I've watched a video explaining why h265 can actually be worse than h264 in certain scenarios.
Was a test with noise patterns, not really a real life problem he said. But if you consider that grass is basically a large noise pattern, it could explain the fuzzy grass problem.
Personally I never use h265 because storage and bandwidth was never a problem, cpu does become a problem with H265 and is also much more expensive to upgrade compared to storage.
So it really only makes sense for streaming, but on the other hand, in most of the world bandwidth isn't really a problem.
Hope I can find that video, thought it was quite interesting.
And thanks for your always honest and thorough videos.
Its starting to look really good with the latest firmware. at least in my experience. Bandwidth is a problem for FPV
Walksnail needs to implement some type of focus mode that focuses more on the center.
@@billyocean9236 I never use focus mode myself. Find it very distracting but despite that. It is being worked on
I have bad eyesight can you fit persciption lens in the googles or can the DJI insert I already have fit ?
No you can't do that. Only adjust the prescription using the built in dipper adjustment
One of the things we need is a STAND ALONE VRX.... HDMI output to your fave Box goggle or monitor.
Shouldn't need saying..🤔🤔😳🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧😏
Super Thanks! This was definitely worth the wait. I’ve watched so many vids and vlogs that they contradict each other but this lays it straight.
I’m currently dji and vista but am interested to see what happens in the future.
All the best.
Me too thanks for watching Bob
Great information Andy ! Your explanation on h264 and h265 finally help me understand a little more about the way the codex works. You have given me more solid information than I have found elsewhere. Good stuff. Double thumbs up from me !... Cheers from Utah. ;-)
Glad it helped!
How did Cadxx/Walksnail develop this so fast and why did someone find code in the new DJI system called Avata? It took DJI many iterations to come to the current system we have now.
Avata not avatar. They didn't develop it fast.
Very much appreciate all this clear communication, this kind of discussion day one would have helped heaps for anyone looking to onboard.
thank you for watching
Great vid btw. Think that’s got the most useful information of all the vids so far 👍
thanks :)
No thanks mr spam 🙂
Regarding FPS an Human Eye can see:
1. Most real studies have shown that the max Hz of humans are different from person to person and that the upper limit for most humans is around 230 to 250 hz !!!!
2. There is a HUGE difference between 60 hz and 144 hz. Almost everyone can see the difference. It just feels smoother and sometimes even better in image quality
3. Linus tech tips did a test with pro gamers, avarage PC users and PC noobs to see if they can see differences between 60, 144 and 240 hz and other refresh rates.
It shows that more Hz gives an advantage. Yes because of latency BUT if human eye couldn SEE that shorter latency, why even have a shorter latency at all?
The thing is, as TV came with 24 fps, everybody said that a human cant see more than 24fps, which is BS.
Than 60 hz became standart and everybody said "we cant see more than 60 hz" which is BS too!
Now when we have the technology to have 240 hz any even more, we can REALLY test what the human eye can see.
I mean, just have a 144 hz and a 60 hz display side by side, like me, and move the mouse or an open folder. you can clearly see that its more fluid. And this is not about latency at all! Its just more fluid!
Every tech guy knows that
Wonder what the likely hood of a good diopter solution? DJI googles are solid for me because of the diopter support (Astigmatism).
Best to try some. I have astigmatism but the view is fine for me
Thanks Andy for the very well researched video. I appreciate the detail explanation on differences of H.264 and H.265.
Glad it was helpful!
Nice review Andy, thanks! I have V1 DJI googles, controller and air unit. This is the first time I considere to change my setup. Nice time for the 'FPV scene'
yes very interesting times
Explains the stutter !! Your so good at what you do!
No bullshit as usual. Thank you Andy, much appreciated.
can you tell me the model of your pocket hdmi monitor?
its called the DIGITNOW! HD Video Capture Box 1080P 60FPS but dont buy a new one. I spent a few days looking at second hand ones on ebay. It seems that people buy them to convert old vhs footage and then bin them on ebay as a bid. I bid on one that i lost that went for 48 dollars but won one for 20 dollars. Its very good for the avatars. also make sure you but a 90 degree HDMI cable. Ill cover this in another video but a 90 degree usb cable has a lateral force not horizontal so it never falls out. this is the one I used: amzn.to/3zaknRQ or in america amzn.to/3S6xwDQ
@@AndyRCchannel Thanks bro, I'll look for it.
Very interesting!! Thank you for all the insight!
As far as the Fat Shark Dominator becoming bricked,
Joshua Bardwell had just recently made a walkthrough on how to fix it. You might want to watch that because there is a lot of waiting and people can get impatient.....
So you might want to watch him actually unbrick them before attempting to do it yourself.
I am aware of this, as I said there are a lot of brittle ribbon cables in there that only take a small bend when removing from the tape and the goggles are done for as well as your warranty. Id rather wait. But I understand people having a go themselves and that's totally up to them
@@AndyRCchannel yeah I'm one of those people that like to do it myself.
This is why after I watched him do it and realized what it involved I decided it's probably best to urge people to watch it done first.
It might scare them away from opening it up in the first place.
I'm experienced and I would have been nervous.
Well done Andy. Great background info.
Absolutely amazing and well put together, Thank you so much for this. Massive thumbs up 👍👍👍👍
thanks for watching
Thank you for the excellent summary on this topic, Andy! All packed into one compact video. 👍👍
I tried to keep it as short as possible but it's hard. Thanks for watching
what frame can be used to mount the vtx walknail?
Any. If your frame has 25 x25 mounting holes it will screw into that. I 3d printed a mount for mine. Some people simply taping it and or using zip ties
Strong video, Andy. 👌 Much respect for your dedication and digging up the facts. 💪
thank you :)
The System will be as good as DJI in Termes of Imagequality some day. But at this moment DJI is outstandig better in 50MBit HQ Mode. There is no compression at all line of sight. Lets hope Caddx will deliver.
do you have the avatars or are you commenting on what you have seen from other videos? i would disagree that there is no comparison. especially in 1080p mode
@@AndyRCchannel Hi Andy from other videos. Mad´s Tech´s video Avatar Digital FPV - 19mm Camera Looked Amazing For One Pack shows what the system can do for this one pack. Here i see that is on paar with DJI and no compression in the grass. For shure the DJI system compresses also but not nearly as much like the Avatar. But this one clean looking pack vrom Mad´s Tech looks realy good to me. Lets hope this will be the standard in near future of the Avatar system...
Excellent summary of the system.
Excellent video and info, Andy! Thanks! 😃
Honestly, I was skeptical about this system in the beginning... I had lots of doubts and criticisms about it. But... I'm amazed of how fast it's progressing. The system is getting better and better really fast!
If I had the money to buy DJI or the Avatar systems today, I would definitely go to the Avatar. Exactly for the reason you talked about in the beginning: backwards compatibility.
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
The only thing is that dji will continue pushing the limits making everything else, including their own previous systems, look outdated.
Assuming it can interact with betaflight and is affordable considering it's looking like it's using the action 2 which costs 500 dollars on it's own
I'm pissed at having bought the DJI remote 1 just to realize I can now throw it the bin.
What a pleasure to watch Andy! Succinct, informative and free of ums and rs and BS. Much appreciated. Thank you.
8:49 Just as an intersting addition:
Everyone is sheding light on the HDO2, but little know that Fatshark released the attitude V6 one year later. They feature an evolution of the lens adjustment system (that is actually the one that equips the DominatorHD/Avata now) and are similar in many ways to the HDO2 (even the mainboard got 'HDO2 v1.xx' label) apart from the displays, wich are regular LCDs instead of expensive OLEDs. They could even have trimmed the volume of the goggles, as the Attitude's display modules are way shorter than the Oled modules, it results in an case shell that is mostly empty, lmao.
They were aimed to be a less expensive alternative to the HDO2. So people wanting to jump on the Sharkbyte HD system without a prior headset (or one w/o hdmi) would not have to pay the 500€ HDOled tax.
If only they hadn't ditched HDzero and continued to support both. They would have not lost so much respect
I thought the atti v6 were LCOS instead of LCD? with a non-direct optic
@@JD-FPV yes I think the were lcos. All of my lcos goggles developed holes in the polorization optics. Never had fatshark ones though.
@@AndyRCchannel the lost a LOT of their community respect with the multiple direction changes, and the way they were so coy about the details on this product. Their last 2 launches (Bytefrost, and this one) both have seemed very 'knee-jerk reaction' rather than thought out. Both had a feeling of "quick do something, anything".
I'm super happy with where HDZero has gotten to now, but it was touch an go for a bit, and I would have thought a brand name as a launch partner should have helped, but I think they (fatshark) almost did more harm than good, yet to be seen how much help they ultimately are for walksnail
Thank you Andy!
My guess is that DJI is focused and listening to it's most profitable sector....Defense/law enforcement......talk about crazy margins🙄
Andy Thank you so much! I look forward to every video you put out! Cheers!
thanks so much Bobby
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Great work as always Andy. I'm still rolling with my HDOs and agree, FPV has come a long way and I'm excited for the future...👍🏻🍻👊🏻
This was very informative, very clearly explained
Keep up the awesome content Andy! :)
thanks so much Koel
ok, now I understand the relation btw. these companies. I was very wrong and missjudged
Great information Andy- have you been definitively told Fatshark make the goggles for WalkSnail? Makes complete sense but other reviewers (possibly without sound information) have stated otherwise
Keep up the good work, we really appreciate it. Ken
Yep. If you did hear something different (I haven't been paying too much attention) it was guess work and speculation. I personally have not heard anyone say that? do you have an example?
ruclips.net/video/A-LoIsg2qrw/видео.html 06:59 time stamp
What’s going to happen with people like that still have goggles v1?
Vistas and air units will still work providing you can still get them
I'm enjoying the goggle company names, I vote for DisgruntledGoat next
Thanks Andy for the great info!!👍
Thanks for sharing all this great info! Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
Thanks for your clear explanations !
Great video Andy. Lots of very good information! I have one question............Money aside, what would your thoughts be on a long term pilot making the change from analog? We are spoilt for choice now but, obviously with some very big differences. Would it be worth hanging on for a bit longer for these newer systems to mature or would you maybe recommend a certain system now? I know it would be completely opinion based but, to be honest, it would be the only one I'd give a shit about (pardon the crudeness) 😉
I think I would hang on. Walksnails not quite there yet. Current dji system we don't know how long the old air units and vistas will be around. Next version of dji system may be better but could be extremely expensive and not have all the features we want. The only solid choice that's matured is hd zero but really that works in a different way.
@@AndyRCchannel Thank you very much. I'll hold on for a while longer then. Just to let you know, I think there's a scammer on here that has replied using your username and adding a 1 to the end of it?!
Super thanks 🙏
Great video Andy
Thank you, very clear to understand and great info. It is great to hear stuff like this.
Glad it was helpful!
@@AndyRCchannel Absolutely! Thanks.
@@genjitsu7448 its a scammer sorry to dissapoint
@@AndyRCchannel Hi Andy, yes i do know, thanks. Have you seen this before? I am asking because this is the second time that this has happened to me, and it also happened to be on a channel related to FPV drones... Thanks again, getting access to your knowledge and skills is the prize!
This was great. Thanks man.
Great video Andy! ♥
very interesting, Andy you are good at explaining.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you
Great video Andy!
Thanks!
thank you :)
The goggles transmit at 1200mw?
They can do yes if unlocked. Depends what power output u select
@@AndyRCchannel interesting. I’d thought it was just the VTX which could transmit at that power. Two-way 1.2W transmission!
Can the Walksnail system even benefit from the advantages of H.265? I always thought the fancy prediction and compression methods required buffering several frames and with 90 Hz frame rate each buffered frame means 11 ms more latency so fpv systems need to use simpler compression methods (both in H.265 and H.265) that basically only use I frames.
It's doing good so far at this early stage. Time will tell. H265 wasn't plucked out of the air put it that way ;-)
Thanks for share It with us 🙂👍
Here's what I am going to do about this: Stick with my DJI/RunCam setup for a loooong while. Then and maybe then if and when this product matures and it is somewhat more stable let alone lower cost... I "may" get me a set. For now, absolutely no rush and no need. Too much fear mongering going around. I invite folks to think for themselves and do take these opinions and reviews with a grain of salt. No secret these comments and opinions are at best biased.
My comments are bias?
@@AndyRCchannel In general this "industry" is filled with "opinions" geared toward persuading folks to lean on a product over another. This depends on many factors some of which are the host getting crap for "free" sent to them. Kinda hard to argue with or against free shit. It is when you yourself out of your own pocket like all of us buy the item. Then maybe I believe it. Most (maybe not all) of you guys are nothing more than sales agents pitching these companies' products. What you don't realize is the effect that has on people. You can drive people nuts with conflicting opinions based on subjective views. That is the reason why I disect every word I hear and go and really dig into the product. But as a creator you should have a thick enough skin to take harsh words aimed at keeping you straight with the viewers and their needs. After all, isn't it all about us the viewers? For the most part man I really enjoy your content and has served me in many instances to prove another view incorrect. You do your thing and always remain true with your feet on the ground. People appreciate that bro. Best of luck!
I'm very excited for the new options coming out!! Dji better start being a little more flexible in all areas firmware and support even cross compatibility. I'm very excited about this fatshark/walksnail system but gonna be waiting for those Hdzero goggles!🥽 Great input andy we appreciate you bro!
dji dont give a f. we are nothing more than just lab rat to them
@@moesotaku couldn't said that any better 🤜
I learnt something today 👍
Quite a lot actually...
oh good :) thanks for watching
One of the few super informative and reasonably unbias videos on the subject.
Tack!
thanks so much
Excellent as always Andy. Thanks for again telling us the truth.
Such a shame - had I known the dji system had a 2 year expiration date when I bought into it I definitely would’ve held out. I’ll be stocking up on a handful of vistas and when/if I burn through them I’ll just jump ship. I love the system and the fact I can fit my glasses in them but it makes no sense to stay loyal to a brand that will milk you dry every few years rather than keep existing customers in a suitable and working ecosystem.
Nailed it! I could have been the one to write these exact words lol
Nice indept review.
Everyone will eventually buys it..
If walksnail can get away from this fatshark mess i think alot more people will trust this system.
Personally I agree
Neither DJI or FS/WSof them support HDMI out. So both of them are fail in my book. A digital Video system with no HDMI and DVI out - why? If you cant' stand wearing goggles like me then yeah, it's not only important, it's critical. Just give me a digital video receiver box with HDMI and DVI out and no goggle pvke attached. A 21" computer monitor at Goodwill costs $15 and blows a goggle view clear out of the water. Don't settle for these rvbb1sh tiny screens. Demand more from your digital video system. This is after all the view you're flying to.
I mean, this was just such a basic essential requirement. Imagine buying a VCR but there was no way to connect it up to your TV; instead you had to put your face up to VCR and look through a tiny porthole at a tiny screen to watch a movie....
Well said :o)
How do you know it’s not backwards compatible? Had dji specifically stated this?
no DJI have not talked to me since the fpv drone was released. you will have to join the dots where that info came from... all i will say is we have a new hd digital transmission system and maybe there is a reason for that
@@AndyRCchannel i mean they gotta realize they would make more money having them be backwards compatible. How many people are gonna be crazy enough to invest in a $1000 piece of equipment when they already have it.
dji customers are a different breed.
nice one... clears the mess up of whos making the goggles nicely - and why, thanks
Someone just needs to reverse engineer the DJI system and create their own product as a competitor to put DjI in their place
thats really what this is while trying to improve on it at the same time. DJI has a locked bootloader but the guys over at fpv wtf are trying their best
@@AndyRCchannel yeah I made my comment a little early while still watching the video I can see that now the video goes into that
I think I'm going to sell my DJI v1 goggles and air units now that they're worth something...
Extremely informative Andy it's bloody obvious how much work went into this video👍👍👍
However as you said right at the beginning it's a work in progress and they're not quite there yet, and seeing as the DJI system is bloody amazing there's no way I would be switching.
yes its taken about a week to make and I havent slept for the last day so time for some sleep haha. Cheers George.
I was getting so frustrated trying to scrape up every little morsel of info. I should have saved myself the stress and just waited for this video.
As always, extremely detailed. Especially liked the encoder talk. From a quick look, I had originally thought that the basically double compression of of h265 would perfectly match the double pixels of 1080p. But then there's the processing and latency,... Keeping my eye on these goggles. Pretty skeptical about the new DJI stuff. Maybe by the holidays.
Are your sure the Streaming Codec is H264/h265? I Think this is only the DVR. For streaming is it a high custom Codec?
Thanks Andy, very interesting information. I am sticking with DJI but it is good to get your take on what’s going on.
As much as i want to upgrade to digital, it just seems like a such volatile pissing match right now with sub par results.
This is why I haven't flown fpv since 2016, cause my last goggles just up and died in me and I gave up after numerous attempts of trying to fix them. I want to know the next time I spend $600< on a system that it will last a very long time and good customer support. Even now it seems DJI is trying to control everything, I hope WalkSnail takes the stage as a competitive platform for fpv
FatShark’s repair service is as good as ever - the only problem is that for EU their repair centre is in the UK, so there are quite some logistic issues (due to brexit). In the end they sent me the broken parts for free and I installed them myself to avoid unnecessary customs or anything like that, but they are indeed super friendly!
I think you're too underappreciated by the community, Andy. I've always thought you're one of the best and most honest of the reviewers out there! Keep it up! Would you recommend going with Fatshark or Walksnail, by the way?
Thank you. personally I'd go with walksnail. But that's because I'm based in the uk and the fatshark repair centre has been shut down so it's a quicker turn around for me to send direct to walksnail if there is an issue. If you are closer to a fatshark repair centre it might make more sense to go fatshark. But currently if the problem is with walksnail and not the goggle part you send the goggles to fatshark and then they send them to walksnail which would mean a lot longer waiting times. That should change so farshark can repair the walksnail part eventuallt but I don't know when. U get antennas with the walksnail which I like and despite people saying they are no good... They are working nice for me. So the answer is.. it depends on where you live
@@AndyRCchannel Cheers, man! I live in Norway, and my main vendor is Elefun, which I *think* only sells Fatshark goggles (and Walksnail VTX). I'd definitely buy directly off of them, and I guess I'd send it to them for repairs. They would then probably send it to the nearest FS repair centre. But, are you saying that there's no other difference to them than the repair options? What about firmware updates, will they too be exactly the same? Thanks again for your work, Andy.
I think you deserve a bit more credit for your news about the Caddx and DJI breakup. It was an eye opener. I think I will look to your channel about Walksnail new from now on, less BS and speculation.
I ordered the VRX and VTX camera package, at £200 it would be rude not to...Yes, DJI are so arrogant, but the iphone lovers can't see it....I think Walksnail is the future, DJI hate the FPV community. We ain't their main business model...😳😳😏🇬🇧
I must be the last person still analogue’n with my hd3’s 😂. No worries! But thanks for the detailed heads up Andy. (I’m broke anyway)
Nah from my viewing figures 80 percent of viewers still fly analogue including myself. I just think theres less analogue bind and flys these days which is why you see a lot of digital reviews but they are too expensive for most
Awesome delivery of the important info with a positive attitude. Thank you so much for this and for staying out of the rumer mill muck.
No fatshark uk repair centre anymore. Gets directed to America which takes like a week even for a response. It’s terrible
thats what I suspected
Awesome video Andy. Very clear. I really think the WalkShark/FatSnail system is going to be excellent. I love how rapidly the updates are coming out. They really seem to care what the community thinks and features they want too.
I love my DJI Air Unit and Caddx vista drones (I happen to have an abundance of vistas) but I f**king HATE DJI as a company.
I've been eagerly awaiting a viable competitor for years and I think it's finally here.
Same mate 👍🤝
Thanks for this Andy, the WS system currently just seems so half baked currently
I'm waiting for echine digital till then 1000mw analogue all the way for me to expensive
I respect your patience :)
Its got be in there pipe line
Thank you so much. :)
Stand alone VRX... 🤤🤤🤤
You've killed all other reviewers bs. You're the man! 👊
Thanks for watching
HDO2's are trash compared to the sky04x. I for one am not a fan of my eye balls touching the lenses.
The skyzones don't fit my nose unfortunately. Very uncomfortable to fly for me
Still in development, But want top tier price, They can keep em.