"My name is Raphael Rowe, it's not my first time behind bars. I was convicted in the UK for a murder i didn't commit, and sentenced to life with no parole..."
yes, the question that everyone do is, does he got at least some money compensation? or NOTHING, not apologize no money, just making them loose 12 years of his life... You know what i would do? when i would be 70 or 75 years old, i just plan the murder of those guys who put him on prision, they deserve to die.
I lost 15 years of life belive me even money can not give you what you lost its the best years of my life and nothing even alot of money can not bring it back no more to say
@@livefree118 You misunderstand the whole point of compensation. Compensation isn't to replace the time you've lost, that's impossible, it's to allow you to catch back up as well to make up for any other damages. It depends a lot on a lot, if you've done decades and you get a large enough compensation it could make up for the fact that you have no possessions or you lost all your possessions.
The matter of the fact is that when police get caught for fabricating stories, tampering with or planting evidence, and falsely jailing men for crimes they didn’t commit, they need to be tried and convicted.
Why? If you make a mistake while on your job, and you can claim that you were simply incompetent to deal with the situation, you are not getting charged with a crime, I hope.
@@tommyrjensen Notice how ”A police officer paying and bribing someone to conspirate in secrecy” doesn’t sound the same as ”A mistake while on your job” 🥱
I saw a video of a guy that was MANIPULATED by the police to confess. He was jailed dor 20years for something he didn't do while the murderer was free.
@@tommyrjensen Did you even watch the video and follow what the dude said, or are you just a dumbfuck? Yes, people make mistakes, but you are clearly not seeing the whole picture. The only honest mistake here was charging the wrong man. That was the mistake. But the mistake was then followed by very questionable behaviour and this was not a mistake at all, it was a conscious act by the coppers to jail this man, whatever it takes. Paying the witness to tell your story, tampering evidence? those cops should be killed on site, they are corrupt and every bit as criminal as the murderer in this case.
The cops that wronged him should be made to serve the same jail time he did. Edit: for those of you that read this take into account that this is clearly my personal and emotionally driven opinion based on the video, this is not however my logical opinion so don't take this as my answer to a problem.
@@radagast1184 they ignored evidence that obviously pointed to someone else because they wanted him to be the perpetrator. In other words they chose not to do their jobs properly in order to nail the wrong guy, how is that not wronging him?
UK caps compensation at £1 million if a person is imprisoned for over a decade. So at the very least he’s a millionaire now. Not at all enough to compensate for over a decade of physical and psychological trauma but it’s something.
It's so fucked up. It's just so fucked up. I am angered and distraught and just wtf, seriously. My heart is broken from this tragedy and I can't stand the thought of this happening again over and over. Praise those with common sensinality, if that is a word. Fuck. What a nightmare.
If this ever happens to me, once I get out, I will ruin the lives of those who imprisoned me including their sons and daughters. Blame their asshole father for being such a scumbag.
@@LG-ro5le No compensation will replace the 12 years of his life he lost, only a sincere apology from those who got him in that position and a proper trial for them, but none of that happened and they're free like nothing happened
@@ThatGuy-gd1vf id rather have 9 mil than a useless apology. As if these judges arent going to make the same mistakes. Perhaps they've done this even more often. Sorry doesnt give you a roof above your head and food on the table, possibilities to build a life after the terror he's witnessed. 9 mil does
@@radagast1184 Been reading about the case and I see some evidence that they might have some involvement but can you show me where I can read about the evidence that has you so convinced that they are guilty?
This makes my blood boil. 12 years. 12 fucking years of this innocent man's life gone. Even moreso that this is not a rare occurrence. I wish him all the best in life. Were I him, I'd still be frothing all this time later.
I'm from New Zealand where there is no death penalty, and it honestly sucks because criminals to horrible things and only get 20 years, we need the death penalty. there are so many people who shouldn't be allowed out of prison, yet they get out anyway.
HyaenodonFilms My logic is that I'd rather have guilty people walking around innocent than end the lives of innocent people. We don't need to stoop down to their level.
Give it A Minute I think the only issue with that is that you'd have to let the prisons decide what is irrefutable. For example, fingerprint testing is one of the most reliable methods of finding a murderer (aside from video), and yet it failed to clear this man's name, instead incriminating him. When you let individuals with subjective opinions make objective choices, bias is inevitable.
@@andilesheta6600 Yeah I would hate to find out about exculpatory evidence after the case is over and knowing I made the wrong call due to incomplete information.
I know how you feel to a certain extent. I was 20years old when I was charged with murder, denied bail and spent 10 months in maximum prison until the charge was reduced to manslaughter, then when it went to trial, the judge threw the whole case out because there was no evidence at all.
Oh yeah this guy has a Netflix series where he visits the most dangerous prisons in the world (The name of the show is called Inside the worlds toughest prisons)
Read up on the M25 three, there is so much evidence against this guy that isn't mentioned in this video. Watches, rings were found at his house which were taken from the robberies and his girlfriend even said that he wasn't home at that time and came home wearing different clothes. Sounds like a very different story told here
@@shady7877 Yeah I did read up on it and what you state above is inaccurate - it wasn't "his house", it was a bail hostel. 12 people were arrested from the hostel, including 3 who fitted the witnesses descriptions. These 3 (not the ones charged) became the prosecution's witnesses against the 3 who were charged.
@@snakeplissken526 Just went back to the wiki to see if I missed something and it seems like the wiki was edited? I never read anything about a hostel under 'arrests' and now its all there and I went through it pretty well the first time I looked at it so I have no fucking idea what's going on.
Benyamin44 There is no better solution that wiping out humanity. How many other species cannibalize their own the way humans have in such a short span? None, literally none.
@@moonshinei So we literally need a miracle 🤷🏻♂️.. Also, ants are actually worse than humans, there's always wars between ants; if you're interested in knowing more, search ants Kurzgesagt.
This guy is an inspiration, yeah he made he's mistakes but he learned from them, he showed emotion and was genuine about it. I've never been prison but as a homeless man I understand about being a bitter and angry young man and it's inspiring that he can now sit down and tell he's story
The way that he dealt with his wrongful conviction is probably how I would act too. I don’t think I could survive that… he was obviously feeling that he wasn’t even human anymore. He is so lucky. I hope he can heal…
@@geerace9861 the UK just doesn't do huge payouts, but in this case, it really is warranted. Luckily the guy made a career of himself. But at the point you need all the wages you would've made PLUS any potential earnings you could've made but now can't because all the years you spent in prison were years of experience you'll never get PLUS money for the trauma which is the where the man should get the millions, he should never have to work again and spend the rest of his life recovering,
Its truly heart wrenching. Just take a moment and imagine what you've done in the last 12 years and all that you've experienced. Now imagine that was taken from you.
You think this is heart-wrenching? Try looking up what the presiding judge said when this man was ordered released. The victims family has had their hearts wrenched.
Having executive dysfunction in a fascist country that doesn't know the difference between a brain and genitals feels close enough actually. I was at home near computer and not in prison but feels close enough. No experiences, no achievements, no memories... Have like 10 memories total of the past 10 years. My own brain and immigration laws are pretty much a prison too
I wish they'd release a new season! And give Raphael a raise in his next contract. I didn't watch the first few episodes with the other guy who never spent any time inside, but Raphael's presentations are dynamite!
What a story, I’ve watched all of inside the world toughest prisons since it came out and I have followed raphaels story for a couple of years now and what a intelligent and a amazing dude he is.
There are so many cases like this. When a murder investigation leads nowhere, but the Police or Judges need to convict someone, anyone, just to appease the public opinion. This is beyond despicable.
My dad is doing 30 with no parole for a murder he never committed, I was 4 when he got sentenced and now I’m 19, life gets you down but you push through the pain and look to the better days coming, my dads halfway through and is going strong! I Pray for Justice every single day
@CJ Unless you have actual proof, there is no weight in your argument and your words are worthless. It's fine to have an opinion, but unless you have anything factual to back it up, keep it to yourself.
Raphael, stay strong brother. The truth has set you free. I'm sorry you were locked up for over a decade. I wish you the best in the decades to come. Live free.
I had a bad day at work with my manager yelling at me to do things properly and putting the blame on me when it was actually his problem, but watching this video makes me feel my situation is nothing compared to what others had to go through
@@Axezz so guilty. Even the judges that were forced to let him go made it perfectly clear that letting him go was not a signaling of innocence. The evidence was super heavy against him specifically. Go read the M25 Three wiki entry.
@@pondababa4197 I don't know, I think we should take all of the evidence we have against him in the context of where it comes from. The fact the police tried to arrest 3 black men for the crimes of 2 white men and a black man, and they found enough evidence to convict all three, suggests to me that this evidence may be a little bit conjured up. The testimonies convicting Rowe were so shaky. For starters, Williamson, the lady saying he was involved, placed him in the hostel with her at the time the murder was committed, so that's inconsistent. Three of the other witnesses had admitted to stealing some of the items, handling and hiding others, possessing a handgun, disposing of the stolen car and fitted the physical discription of the assailants. I think a lot of this evidence needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
@Tom W nope thats false. You get £87 a day but if you come out with severe depression and stuff then you can claim ontop of that. A wrongful conviction for a murder case because it wastes your life so much and destroy your future you can claim millions
I love watching his Netflix show and hope he's incredibly proud of how he has turned this absolutely abominable miscarriage of justice into something uniquely educational and positive.
such an inspiring man. he had all the reason in the world to hold grudges and be angry at those who put him away for 12 years. yet he still came out strong and without that anger in his heart. incredible
This is why I don't believe in the death penalty, there's always the chance of being wrongfully convicted and sometimes it takes years to realize the mistake
I strongly believe in the death penalty! And a certain way it should be implemented as the ultimate end payment for your sins. Not every killing deserves it and situations differ, But if you have callously taken a life or lives and proven beyond all reasonable doubt, It's your time.
@@helenHTID How do you feel about when innocent people are killed with the death penalty? Dozens of innocent people have been murdered by the state for people's need for blood vengeance, which is all the death penalty really is.
I love this guy on “The World’s Toughest Prisons” and I love that he became an amazing journalist despite everything that happened to him. When shit happens to you (and I speak from experience), you have to make a decision to not let the shit that almost destroyed you in the past to keep destroying your future or you let it win. You let it take up residence in your mind and eat away at your potential, your happiness and your peace. Don’t let it continue. Take back ownership from the abuse, the mistreatment, the sins of others and leave it where it happened. In the past.
I have also been wrongfully convicted and waiting to be sentenced - one day I’m at work the next day remanded straight to scrubs and my trial was beyond reality when all the jury said I was guilty for a crime I never committed 2 days before my birthday, my children have all been taken as I’m guilty for delaying taking my baby to hospital even the paediatrician said in her own opinion she could not say if that’s the truth as baby’s can show no symptoms at times. The jury did not even look at my evidence and all the officers on the case lied on the stand under oath. My life has been ripped to pieces. If I am guilty I will accept the consequences. Everyday for the last year has been nothing but PAIN. I have no trust in this system at all
He is, he makes great documentaries about prisons around the world, its called "inside the world's toughest prison's" its really worth checking it out, its on Netflix
If you look into though, he was actually part of the gang who committed the murder and was with them on the night of the murder. The narrative presented is as though he was just a random guy minding his own business.
This made my blood boils, every single individual that had anything to do with the conviction of this man should be put inside a cell or given a proper punishment.
What do you mean? He literally had all the stolen items on him. His girlfriend handed them in to police. He left bloody footprints that matched. He had changed his clothes. He used the same bag described by the victims which had clothes and stolen items inside. The car was outside his hostel. His only defence was that someone else in the hostel may have committed the crime and framed him..? That’s it. That’s the only defence he had. No explanation for anything else. How did his girlfriend get the rings? She stated he gave them to her. Why did he leave the house at the exact time of the murder? Why did he change his clothes? Why did he have the same bag and footprints? Guess it’s all coincidence lmfao. Y’all delusional. The conviction was overturned due to a police error with a separate convict. ALL convicts relating to this case had to be released because of this. NOT lack of evidence. They all still firmly believe he did it but the error means they lawfully can’t convict him. He got so fucking lucky.
R. Rowe is an awesome dude!!! I love his show WORLDS TOGHEST PRISONS and I'm very happy that despite having to lose 12 years of his life that he was set free and able to move on with his life. I couldn't imagine that happening to me let alone I wouldn't be able to he anywhere near as humble about the whole ordeal as he has been! A better man then me, that's for sure!
This is one man's story we got to hear. To think there are many more who we will never know about, with their last breath in their cell, carrying with it nothing but the crime of innocence.
Imagine the relief of his family having him in their arms. Imagine the pleading he did saying he was innocent and then having the proof of innocence 12 years later
I literally started watching his Netflix documentary yesterday!!! I honestly don’t know how he can go back to jail n the worst jails in the world, crazy !!!! amazing man x
Mr Rowe, RESPECT to you. i have read your book, seen the Netflix episodes and am in awe of your resilliance. You came through sheer horror in many guises and have turned it into something to change the world. Yes you deserve an official public apology, you deserve a massive compensation, what you deserve and what you get are oceans apart.... Have a good life full of love and support. Find your peace and inner calm. Most of all I want to say ... reign in your work commitments and enjoy precious time with your loved ones. You have children....be there xx
To be clear, he wasnt found Not-Guilty when he got released. If you go and look at the evidence, it doesn't look good for him. Actually look up the case yourselves.
Love his show on Netflix. You all gotta watch that episode from the latest season set in Africa. Crazy. Then flip the vibe and watch the prison in Norway (where it's like a hotel).
I'm straight up addicted to "Inside The World's Toughest Prisons". Not just because of the content and show itself, but because of Raphael as well. He not has the experience of being stuck behind bars, but asks legitimate questions, gets involved with the activities and punishments, experiences life for himself etc etc. I hope they keep asking this guy to present more shows.
This is gonna be controversial... but maybe because the video leans very hard on the fact that he’s innocent? His innocence has never been proven. Anyone who actually looks into the M25 Three and actually reads all the evidence and facts available to the public will realise that Rowe is still a strong suspect. There is physical evidence that links him to the case, witness anecdotes linking him, he disappeared the night of the murders and came back wearing a pair of shoes that matched the imprint at the time, he had commited similar burglary crimes in the past, etc. Obviously there is also lots of evidence to defend Rowe, but the fact is that the M25 Three case is still open to this day, and Rowe is a suspect, even to detectives to this day. Obviously he is a mature, intelligent man today, and he’s a benefit to society, but the judge said in 2000, “this does not rule Rowe as innocent, far from it.” There are two sides to every story. I know it’s hard to think about after watching this video, but objectively Rowe still may have committed these crimes. The truth is that we don’t know, (and therefore he should be free), but the point is that there is still strong evidence against Rowe (again, look it up) and the video doesn’t really show the other side of the story. I mean, it’s an interview with him so you can’t really expect it to, but maybe that’s why some people dislike it.
I never fully heard his story but I seen his show on Netflix. He goes to different prisons in 3rd world countries and he stays in the prison for a predetermined length of time, its a good show. He lives just like the prisoners do.
I feel anger knowing this happens not just for this gentleman but my old school friends dad who was wrongly convicted and then I think if I remember rightly it was 10-15 years later he was released/found not guilty, people in this situation don't just lose their own time it effects everyone that is a part of their life and for a "justice system" to behave this way is ridiculous and shameful and disgusting
Being well spoken about it is good. When I was in criminology we had a guest speaker that was wrongfully convicted of killing his mother come and speak to us. It is chilling how these people have to relive their experiences over and over to get paid, but also good that they do. It hopefully makes the world a more just place.
It’s when I listen to this gentleman that I am so glad there is no death penalty in the UK. I applaud you Sir for not remaining a victim of this terrible mis-carriage of justice and hopefully you can go on to lead a happy and fulfilling life. 👏👏👏
the movie should open up with Rafael Rowe committing malicious wounding. this was one of his many prior convictions before the poor guy got falsely accused of murder.
If you actually read up on it. The evidence against him was compelling. The other 2 didn't just say they didn't do it. They said rowe did as well as him being found with the stolen goods.
It is estimated that any statement beginning with “it is estimated” is probably bullshit with little to no evidence actually backing the random “estimation”.
Finally I get to know the story behind this man.. I’ve watched almost every single episode of his documentaries Inside The Worlds Toughest Prisons but never know the story behind the man. His intro just intrigued me.. but it repeats on every single episode lols
This is so upsetting 😭 I’m so glad you’ve been able to find a way to get past that anger....that shows real strength. Praying your peace in life continues to increase....and maybe one day those who were supposed to be formally representing the justice system get their comeuppance 😩 how has there been no apologies 😭
@@aboveyourmom669 no im tyna say a religious person would proabably take the money and be happy knowing thier balling in this world and god will give them another life kinda thing... so they are rich in this life and then garanteed heaven basically
This is a fine example of why you should teach your kids to never ever get into trouble with the law, because even minor offences puts you on their radar and you could get used just like these poor men were.
The closer one gets to anyone with criminal intents, the more likely you will be fingered by someone trying to avoid conviction by offering false evidence. That’s why I hate my kids to even buy pot from unauthorized sources. Your life or your freedom could be lost, stay well away and live your life without any evidence of wrongdoing available to anyone.
hearing his story on a podcast was overwhelmed with his story ....Loosing 12 years for something you didn't do ..No words of apology will never be enough.
What an amazing man you are. So dignified through such injustice. You have grown in wisdom way beyond your years. I wish you peace and serenity and the shedding of all anger. Karma is a certainty for those who did this to you ❤️
I've recently been watching his prison documentary on Netflix and I just keep thinking for such a softly spoken man he's eyes and face just tell a different story you can see a real toughness in him, there's just something the way he carries himself, honestly don't know how he has turned his life round so well I'd have lost the plot for.
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So he was locked up for over a decade and nobody apologized to him.. tf
Well theyre not americans
Read up on the M25 Three and tell me he's innocent. Its crazy. Even the judges who had to let him go knew he was guilty.
No one apologised but he got 9 mil. I know which I would rather have...
He did it anyway imo looking at the evidence.
@@user-ie6jr4bg1w Canadians*
It's scary that there could be many more like him still in prison...
there is thousands
So many of them and that's sad
and its even scarier that there are real criminals roaming the world because of these wrong convictions.
@@rasikat4564 yea. It is also scary how many people are sheep and completely and utterly stupid and will be on the "jury of your peers"... smh
That have lived there lives and died in orison
"My name is Raphael Rowe, it's not my first time behind bars. I was convicted in the UK for a murder i didn't commit, and sentenced to life with no parole..."
😂
I knew I recognised him from somewhere n read this in his voice in my head 😄
@@gromhub he's got a documentary and he was on the happy hour podcast
I’m that dumb I forgot series one was someone else haha
If yuno yuno
The man deserves a sincere apology and huge compensation.
yes, the question that everyone do is, does he got at least some money compensation? or NOTHING, not apologize no money, just making them loose 12 years of his life...
You know what i would do? when i would be 70 or 75 years old, i just plan the murder of those guys who put him on prision, they deserve to die.
I lost 15 years of life belive me even money can not give you what you lost its the best years of my life and nothing even alot of money can not bring it back no more to say
@@livefree118 You misunderstand the whole point of compensation. Compensation isn't to replace the time you've lost, that's impossible, it's to allow you to catch back up as well to make up for any other damages. It depends a lot on a lot, if you've done decades and you get a large enough compensation it could make up for the fact that you have no possessions or you lost all your possessions.
@@Kyle_Hubbard And compensation shouldn't come from the taxpayer because that means those that acted in bad faith are never held accountable.
@@Espinete87 here in denmark you're getting around $100 per day wrongfully imprisoned
The matter of the fact is that when police get caught for fabricating stories, tampering with or planting evidence, and falsely jailing men for crimes they didn’t commit, they need to be tried and convicted.
Why? If you make a mistake while on your job, and you can claim that you were simply incompetent to deal with the situation, you are not getting charged with a crime, I hope.
@Just_Taco You can say that. But it is clearly not how the "justice system" views it. It agrees 100% with what I wrote.
@@tommyrjensen Notice how ”A police officer paying and bribing someone to conspirate in secrecy” doesn’t sound the same as ”A mistake while on your job” 🥱
I saw a video of a guy that was MANIPULATED by the police to confess. He was jailed dor 20years for something he didn't do while the murderer was free.
@@tommyrjensen Did you even watch the video and follow what the dude said, or are you just a dumbfuck?
Yes, people make mistakes, but you are clearly not seeing the whole picture. The only honest mistake here was charging the wrong man. That was the mistake. But the mistake was then followed by very questionable behaviour and this was not a mistake at all, it was a conscious act by the coppers to jail this man, whatever it takes. Paying the witness to tell your story, tampering evidence? those cops should be killed on site, they are corrupt and every bit as criminal as the murderer in this case.
One of my top 3 fears
false rape is up there for me
I am with you. These types of stories really hit hard.
whats ur top 2 then
LinkPluto kidnap and like the deep ocean
Snowy the sea and the deep ocean are my number one fear too. It’s called Thalassophobia.
The cops that wronged him should be made to serve the same jail time he did.
Edit: for those of you that read this take into account that this is clearly my personal and emotionally driven opinion based on the video, this is not however my logical opinion so don't take this as my answer to a problem.
If only
That’s a stupid comment but okay
@@jamesfernandes2842 you get the gist of what he's saying, don't be an arse.
@@jamesfernandes2842 you're free to have your own opinion but if you're going to insult someone else's the least you can do is explain why.
@@radagast1184 they ignored evidence that obviously pointed to someone else because they wanted him to be the perpetrator. In other words they chose not to do their jobs properly in order to nail the wrong guy, how is that not wronging him?
I would want £1m for each year I served. In this case that would be £12m and a god damn public apology on every media platform possible.
I agree
Word.
BaRacK jOe-mAmA Me too bud I would be going mental
UK caps compensation at £1 million if a person is imprisoned for over a decade. So at the very least he’s a millionaire now. Not at all enough to compensate for over a decade of physical and psychological trauma but it’s something.
£12 million isn't still enough
This is one of my worst nightmares. Going to prison for something I know I didn't do and no one believes me. Horrible.
feels like among us
It's so fucked up. It's just so fucked up. I am angered and distraught and just wtf, seriously. My heart is broken from this tragedy and I can't stand the thought of this happening again over and over. Praise those with common sensinality, if that is a word. Fuck. What a nightmare.
also the back in your head thought that you will be in prison the rest of your life
If this ever happens to me, once I get out, I will ruin the lives of those who imprisoned me including their sons and daughters. Blame their asshole father for being such a scumbag.
Why would it be a fear if u hav nothin to b afraid of in the 1st place
The Police Officers concerned should be charged and sent for trial. They committed Murder themselves in many ways. The virtually took this mans life.
They must be enjoying a comfy retirement now
Qualified immunity
I'm wondering how the f*ck they got away with not being charged!
I didnt think we had qualified immunity in the uk?
They sent innocent men in jail and set murder free.
Imagine losing 12 years of your life and no one even apologises
TBF 9 mill is a good apology, he wouldnt of made that in 12 years. Hes got the rest of his life to live in luxury.
@@LG-ro5le so fucking what??
@@LG-ro5le No compensation will replace the 12 years of his life he lost, only a sincere apology from those who got him in that position and a proper trial for them, but none of that happened and they're free like nothing happened
@@LG-ro5le id sooner keep my 12 years. Imagine the torment he went through being imprisoned for something you didn't do.
@@ThatGuy-gd1vf id rather have 9 mil than a useless apology. As if these judges arent going to make the same mistakes. Perhaps they've done this even more often. Sorry doesnt give you a roof above your head and food on the table, possibilities to build a life after the terror he's witnessed. 9 mil does
I couldn’t imagine the feeling of being locked up for something you know you didn’t do! It must be one of the worst things imaginable
I'd do the same as Moša Pijade...I'd ally with all inmates and then turn the whole system around...
My worst fear I couldn’t imagine that my family may not believe my innocence
@@k3nz1e73 Your worst should be that you really assume to know that you are innocent...but you actually are not.
Read up on the M25 Three. Hes not innocent at all.
Ponda Baba he obviously is otherwise they wouldn’t have released him numpty
The police won’t let the truth get in the way of a good conviction
Kamala Harris
Truer words I know not.
Especially if you're not white
@@radagast1184 they wouldnt let him out of prison if it was that tight.
@@radagast1184 Been reading about the case and I see some evidence that they might have some involvement but can you show me where I can read about the evidence that has you so convinced that they are guilty?
And people wonder why so many lose their faith in justice, the government and society...
Exactly
Do normal people actually wonder about that?
This makes my blood boil. 12 years. 12 fucking years of this innocent man's life gone. Even moreso that this is not a rare occurrence. I wish him all the best in life. Were I him, I'd still be frothing all this time later.
This is why I'm against the death penalty.
Not to mention how much it costs... and that it basically gives the government legal power to kill whomever they deem worthy. Kinda scary!
I'm from New Zealand where there is no death penalty, and it honestly sucks because criminals to horrible things and only get 20 years, we need the death penalty. there are so many people who shouldn't be allowed out of prison, yet they get out anyway.
HyaenodonFilms My logic is that I'd rather have guilty people walking around innocent than end the lives of innocent people. We don't need to stoop down to their level.
personally I think if there is irrefutable evidence in cases that involve pedophillla, rape or murder then to the gallows pole it must be.
Give it A Minute I think the only issue with that is that you'd have to let the prisons decide what is irrefutable. For example, fingerprint testing is one of the most reliable methods of finding a murderer (aside from video), and yet it failed to clear this man's name, instead incriminating him. When you let individuals with subjective opinions make objective choices, bias is inevitable.
Imagine being a part of that jury that found him guilty.
Imaging being the police officer that payed someone off to find the wrong man guilty
👁️👄👁️
To be fair, as a jury you don't always get to see all the facts. Sometimes you get only a biased picture like you were watching CNN or FOXnews.
@@insanity4462 very true but the guilt would eat me away for being a part of sending away an innocent man for 12 years
@@andilesheta6600 Yeah I would hate to find out about exculpatory evidence after the case is over and knowing I made the wrong call due to incomplete information.
Hope he is getting his 12 years back. Doesn't look older than 30 at all
He looks 40
@@solo_2003 okay and he is 56
@@solo_2003 not rly, looks 30ish
Those years will never return those years can never be given back
Black don't crack
The worst thing is when everyone around you blame you for something you never did and without any proof or reason
the thing that is worse if when you start believing it yourself 😭
I know how you feel to a certain extent. I was 20years old when I was charged with murder, denied bail and spent 10 months in maximum prison until the charge was reduced to manslaughter, then when it went to trial, the judge threw the whole case out because there was no evidence at all.
Yes but were you innocent?
you were charged by a jury or a judge?
@@rodrigoaguilera4454 would be neither if the case was thrown out
@@rodrigoaguilera4454 you don't get charged by judges or juiries
@@PJ-po7fu doubt he’ll admit that on the internet, pal... lmao
Oh yeah this guy has a Netflix series where he visits the most dangerous prisons in the world
(The name of the show is called Inside the worlds toughest prisons)
Whats it called?
@@lukeuseforce why do you need proof?? just look up inside the worlds toughest prisons
yeah the documentaries are pretty good
@@lukeuseforce Inside The World's Toughest Prisons
@@lukeuseforce The man in the video is the host from series 2 onwards I think
We wont’t hear anyone talking about the officers that accused him wrongfully
Read up on the M25 three, there is so much evidence against this guy that isn't mentioned in this video. Watches, rings were found at his house which were taken from the robberies and his girlfriend even said that he wasn't home at that time and came home wearing different clothes.
Sounds like a very different story told here
@@shady7877 Yeah I did read up on it and what you state above is inaccurate - it wasn't "his house", it was a bail hostel. 12 people were arrested from the hostel, including 3 who fitted the witnesses descriptions. These 3 (not the ones charged) became the prosecution's witnesses against the 3 who were charged.
Or the officer now locked up due to George Floyd taking fentanyl
@@snakeplissken526 Just went back to the wiki to see if I missed something and it seems like the wiki was edited? I never read anything about a hostel under 'arrests' and now its all there and I went through it pretty well the first time I looked at it so I have no fucking idea what's going on.
@@erdemir5641 let’s be fair there was excessive force used. But I agree it was not murder.
This world is a place of so many evil people and its the innocent people that pay the price. Just discusting. So awful
We truly need a saviour to clear the corruption.
@@BenDreemurr44 there is no cure for such corruption. Only purge kills for them
@@DeBattousai Well purging them would be the CURE.
Benyamin44 There is no better solution that wiping out humanity. How many other species cannibalize their own the way humans have in such a short span? None, literally none.
@@moonshinei So we literally need a miracle 🤷🏻♂️.. Also, ants are actually worse than humans, there's always wars between ants; if you're interested in knowing more, search ants Kurzgesagt.
This guy is an inspiration, yeah he made he's mistakes but he learned from them, he showed emotion and was genuine about it. I've never been prison but as a homeless man I understand about being a bitter and angry young man and it's inspiring that he can now sit down and tell he's story
The way that he dealt with his wrongful conviction is probably how I would act too. I don’t think I could survive that… he was obviously feeling that he wasn’t even human anymore. He is so lucky. I hope he can heal…
he was paid only 10300 pounds for serving 12 years wtf
£10,300 - Half of one years minimum waged full time job. the fuck
@@geerace9861 the UK just doesn't do huge payouts, but in this case, it really is warranted. Luckily the guy made a career of himself. But at the point you need all the wages you would've made PLUS any potential earnings you could've made but now can't because all the years you spent in prison were years of experience you'll never get PLUS money for the trauma which is the where the man should get the millions, he should never have to work again and spend the rest of his life recovering,
Im pretty sure he was awarded 9 million pounds
@@thatoneguy120 i hope so
@@thatoneguy120 how so?
Its truly heart wrenching.
Just take a moment and imagine what you've done in the last 12 years and all that you've experienced. Now imagine that was taken from you.
You think this is heart-wrenching? Try looking up what the presiding judge said when this man was ordered released. The victims family has had their hearts wrenched.
Having executive dysfunction in a fascist country that doesn't know the difference between a brain and genitals feels close enough actually. I was at home near computer and not in prison but feels close enough. No experiences, no achievements, no memories... Have like 10 memories total of the past 10 years. My own brain and immigration laws are pretty much a prison too
I love this guy. He’s on a Netflix show about the worst prisons in the world. He’s great!
no shit
He clearly loves prison 🤣
But boring
I love that show! I’ve been watching it for a few weeks now it’s awesome!
I wish they'd release a new season! And give Raphael a raise in his next contract. I didn't watch the first few episodes with the other guy who never spent any time inside, but Raphael's presentations are dynamite!
What a story, I’ve watched all of inside the world toughest prisons since it came out and I have followed raphaels story for a couple of years now and what a intelligent and a amazing dude he is.
There are so many cases like this. When a murder investigation leads nowhere, but the Police or Judges need to convict someone, anyone, just to appease the public opinion. This is beyond despicable.
My dad is doing 30 with no parole for a murder he never committed, I was 4 when he got sentenced and now I’m 19, life gets you down but you push through the pain and look to the better days coming, my dads halfway through and is going strong! I Pray for Justice every single day
dam
He did it 👍🏿
Sure he did not mate
stay srtong my dude
@CJ Unless you have actual proof, there is no weight in your argument and your words are worthless. It's fine to have an opinion, but unless you have anything factual to back it up, keep it to yourself.
Raphael, stay strong brother. The truth has set you free. I'm sorry you were locked up for over a decade. I wish you the best in the decades to come. Live free.
Love him, such a calm guy for what has happened to him.
He has a great Show on Netflix about prisons around the world!
I almost started crying because I got so frustrated about is wrongfully sentence
Sends chills down my spine watching this. Makes you question how many people behind bars are actually innocent
I had a bad day at work with my manager yelling at me to do things properly and putting the blame on me when it was actually his problem, but watching this video makes me feel my situation is nothing compared to what others had to go through
Its good to have perspective for sure, its also good to validate yourself!
Things like this just make me mad
Read up on the M25 Three. Hes not innocent.
Ponda Baba really ?
@@Axezz so guilty. Even the judges that were forced to let him go made it perfectly clear that letting him go was not a signaling of innocence. The evidence was super heavy against him specifically. Go read the M25 Three wiki entry.
Ponda Baba but the victim was a person with different appearance traits. And it was linked to someone elsen
@@pondababa4197 I don't know, I think we should take all of the evidence we have against him in the context of where it comes from. The fact the police tried to arrest 3 black men for the crimes of 2 white men and a black man, and they found enough evidence to convict all three, suggests to me that this evidence may be a little bit conjured up.
The testimonies convicting Rowe were so shaky. For starters, Williamson, the lady saying he was involved, placed him in the hostel with her at the time the murder was committed, so that's inconsistent. Three of the other witnesses had admitted to stealing some of the items, handling and hiding others, possessing a handgun, disposing of the stolen car and fitted the physical discription of the assailants.
I think a lot of this evidence needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
he should’ve sued tbh he would’ve made a lot of money 12 years is a lot of time
Easily a few million pounds
If you look at the m25 case he 100% killed that guy and robbed the others the evidence is overwhelming
Antony Hill the case was made to convicted him, when the police paid the witness to lie how can you trust the case they’ve made?
He got paid Millions
@Tom W nope thats false. You get £87 a day but if you come out with severe depression and stuff then you can claim ontop of that. A wrongful conviction for a murder case because it wastes your life so much and destroy your future you can claim millions
I love watching his Netflix show and hope he's incredibly proud of how he has turned this absolutely abominable miscarriage of justice into something uniquely educational and positive.
Yep same, I recently discovered the Netflix show, it is very good because of him!
such an inspiring man. he had all the reason in the world to hold grudges and be angry at those who put him away for 12 years. yet he still came out strong and without that anger in his heart. incredible
The police should be send to trial for this and sentenced for 12 years, the time he spent.
Good luck with that😂
Unrealistic
In that case the police would be afraid to prosecute anyone.
They should get life in prison, they are a cancer to society.
Why weren't they?
Finally get to hear Raph's story after watching all his episodes of World's Toughest Prisons.
This is why I don't believe in the death penalty, there's always the chance of being wrongfully convicted and sometimes it takes years to realize the mistake
i so agree
In America they have said that since 1985; 185 innocent people have been executed
Also no person had the right to take another persons life
I strongly believe in the death penalty! And a certain way it should be implemented as the ultimate end payment for your sins. Not every killing deserves it and situations differ, But if you have callously taken a life or lives and proven beyond all reasonable doubt, It's your time.
@@helenHTID How do you feel about when innocent people are killed with the death penalty? Dozens of innocent people have been murdered by the state for people's need for blood vengeance, which is all the death penalty really is.
I love this guy on “The World’s Toughest Prisons” and I love that he became an amazing journalist despite everything that happened to him. When shit happens to you (and I speak from experience), you have to make a decision to not let the shit that almost destroyed you in the past to keep destroying your future or you let it win. You let it take up residence in your mind and eat away at your potential, your happiness and your peace. Don’t let it continue. Take back ownership from the abuse, the mistreatment, the sins of others and leave it where it happened. In the past.
I have also been wrongfully convicted and waiting to be sentenced - one day I’m at work the next day remanded straight to scrubs and my trial was beyond reality when all the jury said I was guilty for a crime I never committed 2 days before my birthday, my children have all been taken as I’m guilty for delaying taking my baby to hospital even the paediatrician said in her own opinion she could not say if that’s the truth as baby’s can show no symptoms at times. The jury did not even look at my evidence and all the officers on the case lied on the stand under oath. My life has been ripped to pieces. If I am guilty I will accept the consequences. Everyday for the last year has been nothing but PAIN. I have no trust in this system at all
Terrible thing to happen to an innocent guy, hope he’s doing alright now.
He is, he makes great documentaries about prisons around the world, its called "inside the world's toughest prison's" its really worth checking it out, its on Netflix
If you look into though, he was actually part of the gang who committed the murder and was with them on the night of the murder. The narrative presented is as though he was just a random guy minding his own business.
@@Writeous0ne he wasn't part of any gang 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@@Writeous0ne source
Writeous0ne stfu lool
This made my blood boils, every single individual that had anything to do with the conviction of this man should be put inside a cell or given a proper punishment.
Ignace, its the fact that its so easy to convict people that scares the hell out of me. have we ever heard of police officers being convicted tho.
What do you mean?
He literally had all the stolen items on him. His girlfriend handed them in to police. He left bloody footprints that matched. He had changed his clothes. He used the same bag described by the victims which had clothes and stolen items inside. The car was outside his hostel. His only defence was that someone else in the hostel may have committed the crime and framed him..?
That’s it. That’s the only defence he had. No explanation for anything else. How did his girlfriend get the rings? She stated he gave them to her. Why did he leave the house at the exact time of the murder? Why did he change his clothes? Why did he have the same bag and footprints?
Guess it’s all coincidence lmfao. Y’all delusional. The conviction was overturned due to a police error with a separate convict. ALL convicts relating to this case had to be released because of this. NOT lack of evidence. They all still firmly believe he did it but the error means they lawfully can’t convict him. He got so fucking lucky.
Good Lord, I can't imagine. How would you get past all that anger??
R. Rowe is an awesome dude!!! I love his show WORLDS TOGHEST PRISONS and I'm very happy that despite having to lose 12 years of his life that he was set free and able to move on with his life. I couldn't imagine that happening to me let alone I wouldn't be able to he anywhere near as humble about the whole ordeal as he has been! A better man then me, that's for sure!
This is one man's story we got to hear. To think there are many more who we will never know about, with their last breath in their cell, carrying with it nothing but the crime of innocence.
Imagine the relief of his family having him in their arms. Imagine the pleading he did saying he was innocent and then having the proof of innocence 12 years later
How many more innocent people like this poor guy are still in prison 😭
I literally started watching his Netflix documentary yesterday!!! I honestly don’t know how he can go back to jail n the worst jails in the world, crazy !!!! amazing man x
Mr Rowe, RESPECT to you. i have read your book, seen the Netflix episodes and am in awe of your resilliance. You came through sheer horror in many guises and have turned it into something to change the world. Yes you deserve an official public apology, you deserve a massive compensation, what you deserve and what you get are oceans apart.... Have a good life full of love and support. Find your peace and inner calm. Most of all I want to say ... reign in your work commitments and enjoy precious time with your loved ones. You have children....be there xx
To be clear, he wasnt found Not-Guilty when he got released. If you go and look at the evidence, it doesn't look good for him. Actually look up the case yourselves.
This guys got a great Netflix show “worlds toughest prisons”
Ye it’s really good
Underrated comment
Love his show on Netflix. You all gotta watch that episode from the latest season set in Africa. Crazy. Then flip the vibe and watch the prison in Norway (where it's like a hotel).
I’m trying to figure out which one you’re referencing because there are 2 episodes set in Africa😅 What are the odds
Shane Niyo Yeah man, I literally said there are 2 episodes in Africa, that’s why I don’t know which one he’s referring to in his comment
That Norway one was completely unbelievable. Even has a recording studio 🤦♂️
Like the one in greenland
@@HK_Musician I know I don't understand all the luxury they get. It's a shame
He’s the definition of never give in never surrender.
love Raphael Rowe - he's a brilliant documentarian in Worlds Toughest Prisons. Massive respect for him
I'm straight up addicted to "Inside The World's Toughest Prisons".
Not just because of the content and show itself, but because of Raphael as well.
He not has the experience of being stuck behind bars, but asks legitimate questions, gets involved with the activities and punishments, experiences life for himself etc etc. I hope they keep asking this guy to present more shows.
How can anyone dislike this video?
Maybe people dislike the fact he went down for a crime he didn’t commit?
This is gonna be controversial... but maybe because the video leans very hard on the fact that he’s innocent? His innocence has never been proven. Anyone who actually looks into the M25 Three and actually reads all the evidence and facts available to the public will realise that Rowe is still a strong suspect. There is physical evidence that links him to the case, witness anecdotes linking him, he disappeared the night of the murders and came back wearing a pair of shoes that matched the imprint at the time, he had commited similar burglary crimes in the past, etc. Obviously there is also lots of evidence to defend Rowe, but the fact is that the M25 Three case is still open to this day, and Rowe is a suspect, even to detectives to this day. Obviously he is a mature, intelligent man today, and he’s a benefit to society, but the judge said in 2000, “this does not rule Rowe as innocent, far from it.” There are two sides to every story. I know it’s hard to think about after watching this video, but objectively Rowe still may have committed these crimes. The truth is that we don’t know, (and therefore he should be free), but the point is that there is still strong evidence against Rowe (again, look it up) and the video doesn’t really show the other side of the story. I mean, it’s an interview with him so you can’t really expect it to, but maybe that’s why some people dislike it.
Someone please get Netflix to release more than 4 episodes of his show every season. Thank You! 🤗
Can you even imagine trying to prove your innocence and straight up losing
This is nightmare fuel, I couldn't imagine what was going through his mind stuck in prison knowing he's innocent.
This gent is truly amazing! His series on telly is sensational x how he doesn't want blood, I'll never know!
I never fully heard his story but I seen his show on Netflix. He goes to different prisons in 3rd world countries and he stays in the prison for a predetermined length of time, its a good show. He lives just like the prisoners do.
Not only.... Norway Iceland....
I feel anger knowing this happens not just for this gentleman but my old school friends dad who was wrongly convicted and then I think if I remember rightly it was 10-15 years later he was released/found not guilty, people in this situation don't just lose their own time it effects everyone that is a part of their life and for a "justice system" to behave this way is ridiculous and shameful and disgusting
This is one of my worst fears. You know either being wrongfully convicted or framed. I can't imagine his fear.
Madeleine, and he got both. i don't think that i would have survived a year in jail. you've got to have lots of hope to pull thru this.
Being well spoken about it is good. When I was in criminology we had a guest speaker that was wrongfully convicted of killing his mother come and speak to us. It is chilling how these people have to relive their experiences over and over to get paid, but also good that they do. It hopefully makes the world a more just place.
My heart breaks for this man. His story makes me so angry at corrupt police and courts and I'm not the one who spent 12 years wrongfully in jail.
this broke my heart
My heart goes out to this man and to all of the falsely accused. I'm glad he made it out.
Damn this guy really went to the gulag
my boi rlly clutched up
@@dilldoe2837 Fr tho lmao
He clutched too
Gulag king
Absolutely love Raphael Rowe, first heard of him on the Happy Hour podcast and his story is absolutely mental
It’s when I listen to this gentleman that I am so glad there is no death penalty in the UK. I applaud you Sir for not remaining a victim of this terrible mis-carriage of justice and hopefully you can go on to lead a happy and fulfilling life. 👏👏👏
he's brilliant on world's toughest prisons well worth a watch
Loving Raphaels show 'The worlds toughest prison' great to see him doing podcasts , shows and interviews like these
A film should be made about this! Like Shawshank redemption!
Watch “When they see us” same shit
the movie should open up with Rafael Rowe committing malicious wounding. this was one of his many prior convictions before the poor guy got falsely accused of murder.
Wow that is one of the toughest stories I've watched in a long time. I cannot even imagine what life must have been like for him.
*His documentaries are sooo good in Jails. What a fearless dude going back in to relive different jails*
If you actually read up on it. The evidence against him was compelling. The other 2 didn't just say they didn't do it. They said rowe did as well as him being found with the stolen goods.
It is estimated that juries get as many as 1 out of 8 cases wrong.
It is estimated that any statement beginning with “it is estimated” is probably bullshit with little to no evidence actually backing the random “estimation”.
I really like Raphael he's a great guy who's very clever and makes a brilliant Netflix series called (inside the worlds toughest prisons)
Finally I get to know the story behind this man.. I’ve watched almost every single episode of his documentaries Inside The Worlds Toughest Prisons but never know the story behind the man. His intro just intrigued me.. but it repeats on every single episode lols
This is so upsetting 😭 I’m so glad you’ve been able to find a way to get past that anger....that shows real strength. Praying your peace in life continues to increase....and maybe one day those who were supposed to be formally representing the justice system get their comeuppance 😩 how has there been no apologies 😭
Time is PRICELESS ten million dollars wouldn’t even give him that time back
How about nine million pounds?
@@ElectronBasket maybe to you, to me times priceless and moneys pretty much meaningless except for your needs 🤷🏼♂️
@@aboveyourmom669 a religious person would probably take the money they got an afterlife too and something for god to repay them ... just another view
@@yhmanwag1 I mean anyone would take the money but it will never make up for it
@@aboveyourmom669 no im tyna say a religious person would proabably take the money and be happy knowing thier balling in this world and god will give them another life kinda thing... so they are rich in this life and then garanteed heaven basically
This is a fine example of why you should teach your kids to never ever get into trouble with the law, because even minor offences puts you on their radar and you could get used just like these poor men were.
Not getting in trouble with the law when the law is clearly crooked and prejudiced is very hard
Shot them
Everyone is technically at risk of being falsely accused of a crime
The closer one gets to anyone with criminal intents, the more likely you will be fingered by someone trying to avoid conviction by offering false evidence. That’s why I hate my kids to even buy pot from unauthorized sources. Your life or your freedom could be lost, stay well away and live your life without any evidence of wrongdoing available to anyone.
@@carlabroderick5508 Grow weed instead
I have been waiting for someone to do something to cover Raphael's story.
#respect to you sir. I am still moved every time when hearing your story. As well as your documentary you did in South Africa. Peace be with you
hearing his story on a podcast was overwhelmed with his story ....Loosing 12 years for something you didn't do ..No words of apology will never be enough.
Absolutely appalling
He was guilty
Not Who You Think I Am.
I’d like to see some source material
He sounded so calm when he explained at the start lol
I think people that are wrongfully imprisoned for how ever many years should receive something for serving time in prison.
@Miriam Svenson he has previously said he did receive some sort of compensation, not sure if money or what but he has mentioned that in the past
Most of the times they end up suing the gouvernement and get a compensations sometimes in the millions sometimes only a few hunderd grand
He got £54 for the taxi home.
Google Account yeah for the day of release but he was later compensated I think part of it may have been his job at the bbc
They paid him a couple of milions.
For sure.
This guy has the best Netflix doc out there
What an amazing man you are. So dignified through such injustice. You have grown in wisdom way beyond your years.
I wish you peace and serenity and the shedding of all anger. Karma is a certainty for those who did this to you ❤️
This series shouldnt be 11 minutes, this should be a podcast
He did one on jaackmaates happy hour cast a while back btw
Heartbreaking 💔
Im just watching worlds toughest prisons that he does, mad that this came up
I am so sorry for what happend to you ❤️ This is so horrible 😢
I've recently been watching his prison documentary on Netflix and I just keep thinking for such a softly spoken man he's eyes and face just tell a different story you can see a real toughness in him, there's just something the way he carries himself, honestly don't know how he has turned his life round so well I'd have lost the plot for.